Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[justdimin]

Slowly the teams playing test cricket keeps decreasing and the huge money required is a reason for the same. Few countries are in good financial position and the rest are experiencing much difficulty. It is possible to see a big number of application to play IPL. The reason is the money paid to the players which can't be got even playing throughout the year. This is how cricket have turned.

Now ultimately things are changing quickly, so we have to do same here in this game because if we are not going to do few changes quickly then surely we will lose many good opportunities and countries those are currently interested in this game for the entertainment purpose like just cut the teams number in test format with eight and end the ODI format as well with this we have one issue ICC already sell media rights until 2031, so we can keep this until this time and allow franchise leagues and just T20i cricket which is surely future and have better revenue and profit for the all cricketing boards and relative authorities otherwise we will have problems and controversies with this all.

Peoples want some fast entertainment which is only possible in T20i in franchise and bilateral series are all welcome but now other two long formats are already on decrease and have no fair chance to improve their fan base as well.

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[ilovealtcoins]

The two West Indies openers are playing brilliantly. West Indies collected 221 runs without losing any wicket. Two batsmen scored over 100. I don't think Zimbabwean bowlers will bowl that badly. The series is sure to be a draw. West Indies may collect big, but chances of victory are slim.

The performance of the two West Indies openers impressed me. Chanderpaul remains unbeaten with 101 runs. And his strike rate is 34.7. And Brathwaite scored 116 runs unbeaten. Brathwaite's strike rate is 47.15. The two West Indies openers are batting very responsibly. Also, Zimbabwe's bowling is very weak. However, the match was delayed due to rain. Even though two days have already ended, not even an inning has ended.

Chanderpaul and Braithwaite playing real test cricket. In recent days with more T20 matches played, players started to play test cricket matches same as T-20 matches. Already two days over and this match gonna end in draw. Within few days the much expected India vs Australia Border - Gavaskar Trophy to begin. Four test matches between the two will be enjoyable days for the cricket fans.

I agree with you. We haven't been watching real Test cricket lately. Most teams have more than 4 runs on the night. But the main aim of Test cricket is to score fewer runs but survive at the crease. But now it is not commonly seen. However, the two West Indies openers have been playing well, albeit against relatively weak opposition. I think these two openers will collect at least 150 runs. Because the performance of the bowlers of Zimbabwe is not good on this pitch.

Brathwaite was dismissed for 182 runs. He did a great performance. Chanderpaul is still unbeaten with 161 runs. Chanderpaul's performance impressed everyone. He scored 161 runs off 406 balls. West Indies collected 373 runs with the loss of 1 wicket. Perhaps they will declare the innings if they can collect 600 runs. And Zimbabwe will try to get them out quickly. West Indies have a chance to win the match if Zimbabwe's batsmen do not play well.

[ZAINmalik75]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of  39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

[LDL]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)

Although the West Indies' first innings was halted at various times due to rain, they gave Zimbabwe a big target (447/6d) which will be very difficult for Zimbabwe to hold on to in the end. So far, Zimbabwe is on its third day tea break. They collected 25 runs without losing any wicket.  If Zimbabwe can play in a defensive mood then I don't expect any result other than a draw even if the game goes to the fifth day.

Score from live
1st innings
West Indies 447/6d
1st innings
Zimbabwe 25/0
Update till day3 tea break.

[YinShuiSiYuan]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of  39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

[pakhitheboss]

The first match in BGT will be played in Nagpur. As I wanted to know how the pitch in Nagpur was prepared for past test series I did some research and found out that they are spinner friendly. I know most Australian batters are not that good with spin, there are some who are good but still I would consider them not good. Therefore I wanted to check when was the last time Australia played a test match in Nagpur and I found out that it was in 2008 when they played the 4th and final test of BGT back then. They eventually lost that test match and India won the BGT of 2008.

Do you think history would repeat itself in 2023?

[JSRAW]

Ashwin's savage reply to Ian Healy made my day! This happened on Twitter and I got the whole story from here I am just quoting it.

Healy said:

I think if they produce fair Indian wickets, that are good batting wickets, to start with, (that) probably spin and spin pretty consistently but spin a long way, late in the match … we (Australia) win. I'm worried about (Mitchell) Starc and (Nathan) Lyon in the first Test … if they're unfair wickets which I've seen in the last series, where balls were jumping ridiculously and sliding down low from day one, I think India play those conditions better than us.

To which Ashwin's reply was epic!

Ashwin replied:

Anyway, an Australian broadcaster and former player Ian Healy has given a few gems before the BGT. He has given a few statements that say Indians will make sure Australian feel uncomfortable in India - "I don't believe they will give us wickets that will look even slightly closer to what we will actually get during a game." So he has said that Australia's approach is only correct. The support staffs might have given their opinion, but Ian Healy's quote has set a spark with this take. It's Border-Gavaskar Trophy guys. So we need this spark, right? Besides, banters will keep coming from the Australian camp for sure. We saw what Steve Smith and Usman Khawaja had to say. Eben Marnus Labuschagne and Matt Renshaw have said some controversial things. Renshaw said that you need to analyse a few things in India like who is taking the new ball and stuff.

He further said

Australia skipped their practice game when they toured Pakistan as well since they didn't want to spend 4 days playing that. So instead of this, if we get a centre wicket on any ground, they will be more happy to practice there. So when you are playing a 3 or 4-Test series, you shouldn't be in that country for more than a month. Despite getting good facilities in the hotel, it can get tiring. So Australia decided instead of going to that country and practicing there, we know the conditions already, why don't we doctor the conditions here accordingly. Just like how they are preparing in North Sydney Oval for this India tour, they practiced in Melbourne before the Pakistan tour. So this is something new for Australia.

I think Australia is in a panic mode and that is why such statements have now become an everyday affair. I have never seen them so serious with BGT but suddenly they have shifted focus from the Ashes to BGT I think.

Chadwin never misses the opportunity and rightly so. IMO he's arguably the best cricketing brain in modern cricket and very sophisticated with his choice of words.

Don't forget he's the guy who left the ball when India needed 2 runs against Pakistan and it was the last ball. In a such pressure situation, you need titanium balls and a cool head.

I really hope he gets the bag of wickets in BGT.

Do you think history would repeat itself in 2023?

Indians do have chink in their armor as far as batting is concerned but our bowling is strong so yeah very much possible.

[Vaskiy]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of  39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

[LDL]

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

@Vaskiy Actually you are 100% right because, If you exclude the opening pair (336 runs) it is doubtful that the West Indies team score would have been 250. Except for Kraigge Brathwaite 182, Tagenarine Chanderpaul 207* the other 5 batsmen collected only 45 runs.
K Mayers 20
R Reifer 2
Blackwood 5
Roston chase 7
Jason Holder 11
So guess if the opening pair had not made a huge collection then it is not possible to say how much the West Indies team collection would have been but 250 runs would have been completed maybe not sure.

[pakhitheboss]

Chadwin never misses the opportunity and rightly so. IMO he's arguably the best cricketing brain in modern cricket and very sophisticated with his choice of words.

Don't forget he's the guy who left the ball when India needed 2 runs against Pakistan and it was the last ball. In a such pressure situation, you need titanium balls and a cool head.

I really hope he gets the bag of wickets in BGT.

I think he broke the jaw of Healy without even shucking and jiving with his bear fist. He is an intellectual cricketer and knows where and when to put his word in order to win in a debate. I will never forget that win by Ashwin against Pakistan but I would never forget his performance in that tournament too.

Indians do have chink in their armor as far as batting is concerned but our bowling is strong so yeah very much possible.

I believe that history will repeat itself. I also believe that we will maintain the lead and we will win this series too. Optimism has its own way and mine is my team.

[BALIK]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of  39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

My guess was to declare after collecting more than 560. But West Indies declared the innings after losing 6 wickets for 447 runs. Apart from the two openers, none of the West Indies batsmen can play well. The collection of the two openers was 389 runs. However, the performance of the Zimbabwean players is quite good. The pitch is completely batting friendly. Zimbabwe scored 113 runs for the loss of two wickets. But my guess is that Zimbabwe can score 250 runs at most. And West Indies will win the match.

[romero121]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of  39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

My guess was to declare after collecting more than 560. But West Indies declared the innings after losing 6 wickets for 447 runs. Apart from the two openers, none of the West Indies batsmen can play well. The collection of the two openers was 389 runs. However, the performance of the Zimbabwean players is quite good. The pitch is completely batting friendly. Zimbabwe scored 113 runs for the loss of two wickets. But my guess is that Zimbabwe can score 250 runs at most. And West Indies will win the match.

If West Indies have planned for 560 runs and declare the innings, surely West Indies would've lost every wickets. What they did is good, and Innocent Kaia is the only batsmen trying to keep up scoring for Zimbabwe. Already Zimbabwe have lost 3 wickets and reached 114 runs which isn't enough to stand a chance to draw the match. We can't say this to be batting pitch, because the scoring from West Indies and Zimbabwe is completely on the opposite direction.

[BobK71]

West Indies vs Zimbabwe (Day 3)
Day 3 of First Test match between West indies and Zimbabwe are still ongoing, both opener T.chanderpaul and K.brathwaite build a phenomenal partnership of 336 with both player score his 150+ , now at 336 Zimbabwe bowler got his first dismissal of K.brathwaite who score 182 with a strike rate of 58.33, while chanderpaul are still ongoing, he score 161 with a strike rate of  39.56. I will not be shocked if westindies score 500+ because Zimbabwe bowler are completely failed to put the batsman in trouble.
At the moment 2nd wicket of mayers are down with 374 runs in 125 overs.

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

Kraigg Brathwaite and Tagenarine Chanderpaul's superb batting helped Wast Indies achieve the big target. Apart from these two wickets, no one could score a good run. It would be a big opportunity for the Zimbabwean team if they could have been stopped early, then perhaps such a big target would not have been obtained. But despite the green signal at the start of the day, Zimbabwe ended up losing 3 wickets. Comparatively they are quite backward in this position.

[DanWalker]

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

My guess was to declare after collecting more than 560. But West Indies declared the innings after losing 6 wickets for 447 runs. Apart from the two openers, none of the West Indies batsmen can play well. The collection of the two openers was 389 runs. However, the performance of the Zimbabwean players is quite good. The pitch is completely batting friendly. Zimbabwe scored 113 runs for the loss of two wickets. But my guess is that Zimbabwe can score 250 runs at most. And West Indies will win the match.

If West Indies have planned for 560 runs and declare the innings, surely West Indies would've lost every wickets. What they did is good, and Innocent Kaia is the only batsmen trying to keep up scoring for Zimbabwe. Already Zimbabwe have lost 3 wickets and reached 114 runs which isn't enough to stand a chance to draw the match. We can't say this to be batting pitch, because the scoring from West Indies and Zimbabwe is completely on the opposite direction.

Personally, I think that the quality of batting of the Zimbabwe team is not as good as the West Indies. And that's why I think it is not going to be the same type of performance from Zimbabwe just like the West Indies. I believe that if Zimbabwe can actually keep wickets in hand, this match has a very high probability of being a draw. But I do not think that Zimbabwe will be able to actually hold on to the wickets. They have already lost three. That means three of the top order are already gone. That also means three of the best batsman that they have are gone. So good luck to Zimbabwe.

[BobK71]

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

My guess was to declare after collecting more than 560. But West Indies declared the innings after losing 6 wickets for 447 runs. Apart from the two openers, none of the West Indies batsmen can play well. The collection of the two openers was 389 runs. However, the performance of the Zimbabwean players is quite good. The pitch is completely batting friendly. Zimbabwe scored 113 runs for the loss of two wickets. But my guess is that Zimbabwe can score 250 runs at most. And West Indies will win the match.

If West Indies have planned for 560 runs and declare the innings, surely West Indies would've lost every wickets. What they did is good, and Innocent Kaia is the only batsmen trying to keep up scoring for Zimbabwe. Already Zimbabwe have lost 3 wickets and reached 114 runs which isn't enough to stand a chance to draw the match. We can't say this to be batting pitch, because the scoring from West Indies and Zimbabwe is completely on the opposite direction.

Personally, I think that the quality of batting of the Zimbabwe team is not as good as the West Indies. And that's why I think it is not going to be the same type of performance from Zimbabwe just like the West Indies. I believe that if Zimbabwe can actually keep wickets in hand, this match has a very high probability of being a draw. But I do not think that Zimbabwe will be able to actually hold on to the wickets. They have already lost three. That means three of the top order are already gone. That also means three of the best batsman that they have are gone. So good luck to Zimbabwe.

I was surprised that the West Indies team did not score as expected except for 2 in the top order. In this case, the West Indies player is not playing well. Big score that has become a big obstacle for the Zimbabwe team. However, the picture may be different in the next match. We know that, one team is 8th in ICC ranking and another team is 10th. There is not much difference in this concern. If they can hold on to the wicket, the match could be draw. But the chance is very low. All 3 of the top orders are back. What will be the result that can be assured from  tomorrow's first session.

[wiss19]

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

From here things are in favour of West Indies and this all happen just because of their openers which doe amazing stuff for them and having 336 runs partnership which is surely impressive specially from Chanderpaul Jr who complete his maiden double century in 596 minutes what a marathon inning by this new kid in town bat lately all batsmen gone in hurry and give some relief to Zimbabwe but now this all in hands of West Indian bowlers because if they are able to have few quick wickets then surely they can win this match from here otherwise we have draw to be settled for this match after losing first complete day due to rain.

Zimbabwean reply is not good as they lost few quick wickets and now trailing by 333 runs with 7 wickets in hand but most chances they could be lost quick wickets and give some good advantage to visitors for having better result in this match.

[Ayers]

Wonderful innings played by West indies openers Tagenarine Chanderpaul and Kraigg Brathwaite because of them they gave a big target to Zimbabwe which is difficult for them to chase .

If the openers have lost their wickets earlier, West Indies could've ended the innings in less than 200 runs. Just the openers have scored 182 and 207* runs. The rest haven't contributed much to the team score. Finally 447/6d is a good score. Zimbabwe have scored 75/1 in 28 overs seems good. Anyhow this match is going to be a draw.

Kraigg Brathwaite and Tagenarine Chanderpaul's superb batting helped Wast Indies achieve the big target. Apart from these two wickets, no one could score a good run. It would be a big opportunity for the Zimbabwean team if they could have been stopped early, then perhaps such a big target would not have been obtained. But despite the green signal at the start of the day, Zimbabwe ended up losing 3 wickets. Comparatively they are quite backward in this position.

West Indies was losing wickets regularly toward the end. So I don't think they could have actually made too many runs if the top order failed for them.

Zimbabwe was unable to get early wickets. And that's what was the biggest problem for them. But on the other hand, they also lost wickets early in the innings. Now if they can draw this match from here on, I think it is going to be an achievement for them. But I do not think that West Indies will let his brother to all the matches.

[DanWalker]

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I was surprised that the West Indies team did not score as expected except for 2 in the top order. In this case, the West Indies player is not playing well. Big score that has become a big obstacle for the Zimbabwe team. However, the picture may be different in the next match. We know that, one team is 8th in ICC ranking and another team is 10th. There is not much difference in this concern. If they can hold on to the wicket, the match could be draw. But the chance is very low. All 3 of the top orders are back. What will be the result that can be assured from  tomorrow's first session.

Honestly, I was a little surprised too because a track can change but it cannot change so drastically. So of course I think the quality of batting did decrease.

And another thing is I think West indies did not take things seriously after they had scored a lot of runs. That's why they lost wickets so quickly towards the end. And of course, there is not much of a difference between the rankings. But you can't deny there is a lot of difference between the skill and quality of both teams.

[SirLancelot]

My guess was to declare after collecting more than 560. But West Indies declared the innings after losing 6 wickets for 447 runs. Apart from the two openers, none of the West Indies batsmen can play well. The collection of the two openers was 389 runs. However, the performance of the Zimbabwean players is quite good. The pitch is completely batting friendly. Zimbabwe scored 113 runs for the loss of two wickets. But my guess is that Zimbabwe can score 250 runs at most. And West Indies will win the match.

There is no life in this pitch just because of this we have grand slam innings from the West Indian openers, and they are able to score 447, but now their bowlers are experienced and can do better than Zimbabwean bowlers if they are able to take early wickets then surely we can expect result in this match because now we have around 190 overs left in next two days plays and match situation can go into West Indian favour even it's just prediction but still can happen because Zimbabwe batsmen are not experienced like West Indian batsmen, and they can take good advantage of this all so now all depend on tomorrow first session how things will help and how these both teams will perform in this match which is surely waste of time and energy because no one on ground and nothing positive thing happening about this all just West Indians improving their record.

[Mahdirakib]

I believe that if Zimbabwe can actually keep wickets in hand, this match has a very high probability of being a draw. But I do not think that Zimbabwe will be able to actually hold on to the wickets. They have already lost three. That means three of the top order are already gone. That also means three of the best batsman that they have are gone. So good luck to Zimbabwe.

There is no chance for Zimbabwe to win this match. The betting odds is in favour of draw now. But I think West Indies will win the match. Zimbabwean batting lineup isn't strong enough. I think their batting lineup will collapse in the first session of day four. Anyway, I was expecting that West Indies will score more than 550 runs in the first innings. But they have declared their innings as they were losing the wickets quickly.