Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[pakhitheboss]

Bazball is at its fine display.

Regularly going with 5-6 runs per over clearly shows that now Poms have no interest in a traditional way of playing test cricket, where batters used to grind all day. One can argue that under previous leadership they lost so many matches that they don't trust their defense anymore and adopted an ODI approach in test cricket. At the same time no one can deny that it's very exciting to watch and under Baz-Ben's leadership, this method turned out to be very successful. Aussies will have a tough time in the upcoming Ashes.

I have never seen a test team being so aggressive. They were playing like it was an ODI match but still manager to score in 58 overs 325 runs. In my opinion, this is a good target. It won't be easy for the Kiwis to chase this target. Already they have lost 3 wickets which proves how good the English bowlers are bowling and psychologically they think the target is not that easy to chase. An excellent strategy by the coach and captain of the England team.
This is going to be another one-sided match it seems

Looks like Iyer is playing in the next text. This should give some support in the middle order.

He was supposed to be part of the playing 11 in the first test but unfortunately, due to an injury, SKY got an opportunity that he royally destroyed. I do not think SKY would get another chance in the test squad after this tournament.

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[JSRAW]

Bazball is at its fine display.

Regularly going with 5-6 runs per over clearly shows that now Poms have no interest in a traditional way of playing test cricket, where batters used to grind all day. One can argue that under previous leadership they lost so many matches that they don't trust their defense anymore and adopted an ODI approach in test cricket. At the same time no one can deny that it's very exciting to watch and under Baz-Ben's leadership, this method turned out to be very successful. Aussies will have a tough time in the upcoming Ashes.

I have never seen a test team being so aggressive. They were playing like it was an ODI match but still manager to score in 58 overs 325 runs. In my opinion, this is a good target. It won't be easy for the Kiwis to chase this target. Already they have lost 3 wickets which proves how good the English bowlers are bowling and psychologically they think the target is not that easy to chase. An excellent strategy by the coach and captain of the England team.
This is going to be another one-sided match it seems

Tbh i wish they succeed in this experiment.

If they do then more teams are going to approach these tactics and overall we are going to witness a new era of test cricket and at the same time we can have more volatile pitches, so far they only performed on flats deck, except in recent match but Kiwis are in decline so the jury is still out.

[ZAINmalik75]

Anyone watching the first test between England and New Zealand? England lost their first wicket (Zak Crawley) in the first over, but then Ben Duckett have been playing ever since in T20 style. So far he has got 60 runs from 48 balls (and remember that this is a test match), with the Kiwi bowlers getting smashed all around the park. Ollie Pope at the other end have been a bit more subtle, scoring 18 runs from 24 balls. Most of the New Zealand bowlers have gone for over 6 runs per over, including Neil Wagner, Blair Tickner and Scott Kuggeleijn.

New Zealand won the toss and elected to field. But it doesn't seem like the decision was the right one either. The way England have been batting since the beginning of the match, I think it is an ODI match. England's run rate is more than 6. At the end of 18 overs, England lost only one wicket and collected 115 runs. And now their current run rate is 6.38.Ollie Pope scored 22 runs off 34 balls. On the other hand, Ben Duckett remains unbeaten with 82 runs off just 63 balls. Ben Duckett's strike rate is now 130.15.

England score a handsome runs for new Zealand to chase, they almost smash every newZealand bowler toward every side of the ground, duckett has been dismissed by scoring 84 while Ollie pop and the young giant harrey brook and the wicket keeper batter Ben Foakes score 42 , 89, 38 respectively, and due to effort of them england score 325 in 58 overs which is huge target as compared to overs. Now kiwi lose his 3rd wicket before stump the inning while just scoring 37 in 18 overs which is quite disappointing, hope if they want to get back in inning they must build a big partnership to get rethim

[Sithara007]

Number 10 and 11 were about to bat and at best they could have added extra 10-20 runs or worst zero run partnership. This whole process cost 4-8 overs and you don't want to do this when you have 300 runs on the board and have a chance to crack a pink ball under lights.

Most of the time new pink ball does a fair amount of tricks under lights, hence the declaration and it worked.

Yes.. this time it worked. New Zealand batsmen just had no answer against James Anderson. He had an exceptional spell of 5-3-8-2, and now has 677 test wickets to his name. When most of the fast bowlers retire from the game at 35 or 36 years old, Anderson has preserved himself despite being close to 41 years old. And his combination with Stuart Broad always work well. Broad now has 566 test wickets to his name. BTW, we need to appreciate the nigh watchman (Neil Wagner), who survived the onslaught from Anderson and Broad for 4.3 overs.

[romero121]

England are putting pressure on the Kiwis in their own backyard at the moment. A great first innings score coupled with a flurry of quick wickets thanks to Mr.Anderson put them in a great position.

New Zealand will probably try their best for a draw, but I am expecting the English side to win at this rate.

England will win the match for sure. In the first innings England have played as if like playing ODI match. By the end of day 1 England have scored 325/9d in 58.2 overs. New Zealand have begun its first innings and lost 3 wickets scoring 37 runs in 18 overs. Fall of few more wickets in tomorrow's first session of the match will ease the winning for England. New Zealand after winning the toss should've started the innings than choosing to bowl first.

[Iranus]

England are putting pressure on the Kiwis in their own backyard at the moment. A great first innings score coupled with a flurry of quick wickets thanks to Mr.Anderson put them in a great position.
New Zealand will probably try their best for a draw, but I am expecting the English side to win at this rate.

I don't think there is any chance of this match being a draw. Because the first day's play has just ended. And already England's first innings is over, New Zealand has lost three wickets. I think New Zealand will lose all their wickets in the first two sessions tomorrow. And so there is no possibility of the match being a draw. If New Zealand can muster more than 260 in the first innings, they will have a chance to do well in the second innings to win. And if New Zealand loses all wickets before 200 then England will win this match.

[eaLiTy]

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Tbh i wish they succeed in this experiment.

If they do then more teams are going to approach these tactics and overall we are going to witness a new era of test cricket and at the same time we can have more volatile pitches, so far they only performed on flats deck, except in recent match but Kiwis are in decline so the jury is still out.

England is playing the same aggressive approach in the past couple of years with a strike rate of over 5 and over 6 in some matches, recently against Pakistan they scored well above 6.5 in some of the matches and even against South Africa they had an innings where they scored above 6 and even against New Zealand last year they played like that as if they are playing ODI.

[Sithara007]

I don't think there is any chance of this match being a draw. Because the first day's play has just ended. And already England's first innings is over, New Zealand has lost three wickets. I think New Zealand will lose all their wickets in the first two sessions tomorrow. And so there is no possibility of the match being a draw. If New Zealand can muster more than 260 in the first innings, they will have a chance to do well in the second innings to win. And if New Zealand loses all wickets before 200 then England will win this match.

You never know. Rain interruption is a big problem with test matches being staged in New Zealand. And for Mount Maunganui, isolated rains are predicted for the next few days, although it may not be enough on its own to deny a result for this match. A lot will depend on what happens during the 2nd day. There is always a chance of New Zealand middle and lower order managing a fightback, denying a lead for England. The problem for New Zealand is that their best batsman is already back in pavilion (Kane Williamson). Now Devon Conway and Daryl Mitchell will be under a lot of pressure. 

[Mahdirakib]

Regularly going with 5-6 runs per over clearly shows that now Poms have no interest in a traditional way of playing test cricket, where batters used to grind all day. One can argue that under previous leadership they lost so many matches that they don't trust their defense anymore and adopted an ODI approach in test cricket. At the same time no one can deny that it's very exciting to watch and under Baz-Ben's leadership, this method turned out to be very successful. Aussies will have a tough time in the upcoming Ashes.

Isn't it better to score quickly by losing some wickets rather than scoring slowly by losing quick wickets? England has batted in the aggressive style against New Zealand in the first innings. England has whitewashed New Zealand in 2022 test series by playing in the aggressive mode. I think we are going to see the repetition of that series again. New Zealand is in under pressure now by losing the 3 wickets quickly.

[teosanru]

What's the playing XI you guys are expecting for India in tomorrow's 2nd test match of India vs Australia? I am expecting atleast two changes for sure. One is KL Rahul might sit outside and Gill will get a chance to play tomorrow. Secondly I expect even Shreyas Iyer to play tomorrow but honestly it'll be not a good thing for SKY's morale to make him sit outside just after giving one chance so not sure it they'll do this or not. Rest of the team I think should remain exactly the same.

[Vaskiy]

What's the playing XI you guys are expecting for India in tomorrow's 2nd test match of India vs Australia? I am expecting atleast two changes for sure. One is KL Rahul might sit outside and Gill will get a chance to play tomorrow. Secondly I expect even Shreyas Iyer to play tomorrow but honestly it'll be not a good thing for SKY's morale to make him sit outside just after giving one chance so not sure it they'll do this or not. Rest of the team I think should remain exactly the same.

There will be small changes, and the match is going to be very interesting. Losing the first test match, Australia wants to win the match and it'll perform better than the first match. Australia too will have small changes. Match is being played on the New Delhi ground and Australia team players are finding difficulty in getting adopted to the weather condition.

[Marvell1]

Regularly going with 5-6 runs per over clearly shows that now Poms have no interest in a traditional way of playing test cricket, where batters used to grind all day. One can argue that under previous leadership they lost so many matches that they don't trust their defense anymore and adopted an ODI approach in test cricket. At the same time no one can deny that it's very exciting to watch and under Baz-Ben's leadership, this method turned out to be very successful. Aussies will have a tough time in the upcoming Ashes.

Isn't it better to score quickly by losing some wickets rather than scoring slowly by losing quick wickets? England has batted in the aggressive style against New Zealand in the first innings. England has whitewashed New Zealand in 2022 test series by playing in the aggressive mode. I think we are going to see the repetition of that series again. New Zealand is in under pressure now by losing the 3 wickets quickly.

you are right England's batsmen played well in the 2022 Test series and managed to win every match in the series. And in this series too, we are seeing the same kind of gameplay from the England team. The pitch is not batting-friendly. So England's batting was quite good. Since the pitch is not batting-friendly, now teams should aim to score runs by any means.

New Zealand batsmen are not able to play well. Although Devon Conway played well, no other batsmen could support him. Devon Conway remains unbeaten with 66 runs. And at the moment, New Zealand's collection is 127 runs with the loss of 5 wickets.

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Isn't it better to score quickly by losing some wickets rather than scoring slowly by losing quick wickets?

Successful tactics on a flat deck and so far they played only on dull wickets. Also at their home games last year, a new batch of balls played a huge role.

We can also argue that in challenging conditions it's better to play exactly like this.

I hope for a change India wins the toss and bats first.

Sh*t!! Brohit is following Kohli's footsteps, losing tosses all the time.

[Sithara007]

Sh*t!! Brohit is following Kohli's footsteps, losing tosses all the time.

LOL.. no surprise there.

Australia got advantage once more, as they don't need to bat during the 4th innings. Hopefully this time we will witness a better performance from them, at least in terms of batting. As long as Nathan Lyon is leading their bowling attack, I don't have any hope for them in that department. BTW, I am surprised that Scott Boland is kicked out of the playing XI. He did well during the first test, although he was unlucky not to get any wickets. Anyway, Matthew Kuhnemann gets his chance for today's match.

[onecall123]

Regularly going with 5-6 runs per over clearly shows that now Poms have no interest in a traditional way of playing test cricket, where batters used to grind all day. One can argue that under previous leadership they lost so many matches that they don't trust their defense anymore and adopted an ODI approach in test cricket. At the same time no one can deny that it's very exciting to watch and under Baz-Ben's leadership, this method turned out to be very successful. Aussies will have a tough time in the upcoming Ashes.

Isn't it better to score quickly by losing some wickets rather than scoring slowly by losing quick wickets? England has batted in the aggressive style against New Zealand in the first innings. England has whitewashed New Zealand in 2022 test series by playing in the aggressive mode. I think we are going to see the repetition of that series again. New Zealand is in under pressure now by losing the 3 wickets quickly.

you are right England's batsmen played well in the 2022 Test series and managed to win every match in the series. And in this series too, we are seeing the same kind of gameplay from the England team. The pitch is not batting-friendly. So England's batting was quite good. Since the pitch is not batting-friendly, now teams should aim to score runs by any means.

New Zealand batsmen are not able to play well. Although Devon Conway played well, no other batsmen could support him. Devon Conway remains unbeaten with 66 runs. And at the moment, New Zealand's collection is 127 runs with the loss of 5 wickets.

As long as the English team succeeds in this, these things will proceed. The idea of doing experiments is also a good one since many people around the world are no longer interested in test cricket. By playing ODIs style, they have changed this format. So far, England has done a fantastic job. They took six wickets of New Zealand because of their approach. Devon Conway remained strong until reach 77 runs as Stokes' got his wickets. New Zealand batters should perhaps change their batting approaches like England, as there is still a long way to go.

[kro55]

Sh*t!! Brohit is following Kohli's footsteps, losing tosses all the time.

LOL.. no surprise there.

Australia got advantage once more, as they don't need to bat during the 4th innings. Hopefully this time we will witness a better performance from them, at least in terms of batting. As long as Nathan Lyon is leading their bowling attack, I don't have any hope for them in that department. BTW, I am surprised that Scott Boland is kicked out of the playing XI. He did well during the first test, although he was unlucky not to get any wickets. Anyway, Matthew Kuhnemann gets his chance for today's match.

Australia's batsmen, as terrible as they were in the first match, I can't rely on their performance. In the first match, they scored only 177 and 91 runs. It was unimaginable to see an experienced team like Australia suffer such a bad batting disaster. My guess is India will win this match too. Because every Indian player is in great form now. They are not relying on any particular player now. This is the reason why they were able to beat Australia easily in the first match. I expect India to win in the second test match as well.

[JSRAW]

Sh*t!! Brohit is following Kohli's footsteps, losing tosses all the time.

LOL.. no surprise there.

Australia got advantage once more, as they don't need to bat during the 4th innings. Hopefully this time we will witness a better performance from them, at least in terms of batting. As long as Nathan Lyon is leading their bowling attack, I don't have any hope for them in that department. BTW, I am surprised that Scott Boland is kicked out of the playing XI. He did well during the first test, although he was unlucky not to get any wickets. Anyway, Matthew Kuhnemann gets his chance for today's match.

Yeah and they must cash this opportunity.

The average first day score here is above 250 ish and if Aussies apply themselves then they can touch the 300 mark easily.

Aussies added an extra spinner and batter so for team combination Boland sitting out makes sense.

[Sithara007]

Australia's batsmen, as terrible as they were in the first match, I can't rely on their performance. In the first match, they scored only 177 and 91 runs. It was unimaginable to see an experienced team like Australia suffer such a bad batting disaster. My guess is India will win this match too. Because every Indian player is in great form now. They are not relying on any particular player now. This is the reason why they were able to beat Australia easily in the first match. I expect India to win in the second test match as well.

This time the Australians didn't took the tour very seriously. They landed in India only a few days before the first test match and didn't played any warmup matches. On the other hand, the Indians organized several days of preparatory camps.

BTW, today Cheteshwar Pujara is playing his 100th test match. His average is a bit lower than the other Indian batsmen (at 44.15), but he has played crucial contributions where it mattered the most. Howveer, since 2020, he has been going through a lean patch in his career. During this period, he has scored only 1,281 runs, at an average of 29.79. 

Australia has included only one pace bowler (Pat Cummins). Probably Todd Murphy is going to open the bowling along with Cummins. Cameroon Green is also out injured and therefore Australia doesn't have any other pace options.

[LDL]

I hope for a change India wins the toss and bats first.

In the case of the toss, the reverse happened, with Australia winning the toss and deciding before batting.  In this case, it is not possible to say how much advantage Australia will get, but if Australia can spend the first day in a proper defensive mood in the first innings, then it cannot be said what the result will be in the match, but Australia will not face a disaster like the first test.
The pitch in the first Test was completely spinner-friendly but in this Test the spinners will have a good advantage but the pacers will also benefit. But according to the pitch report, the batting is expected to be helpful.  But with less moisture on the wicket after lunch, the spinners are expected to be helpful.

[laurenB7742]

New Zealand batsmen are not able to play well. Although Devon Conway played well, no other batsmen could support him. Devon Conway remains unbeaten with 66 runs. And at the moment, New Zealand's collection is 127 runs with the loss of 5 wickets.

The New Zealand team has collected more than 200 runs. New Zealand's collection of 209 runs lost by 7 wickets. Tom Blundell remained unbeaten on 58 runs. Probably the New Zealand team will be able to collect 40-50 more runs. If they manage to collect 260 then they can fight for victory in the second innings. The way New Zealand started the innings I thought they would not be able to score even 200 runs. But due to the responsible performance of Conway and Blundell, the New Zealand team managed to collect more than 200. If Blundell stays at the crease, New Zealand will be able to collect a decent total.