Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod]

[JSRAW]

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England going with 3 pacer and India opted for 3 spinners   What's happening here, I'm sure 1 captain got wrong idea about the pitch.
You could say that India playing with 3 bowling all rounders (Ashwin, Axar and Sundar).

I am not aware of the pitch and the discussion i saw here was all about the fast bowlers having an advantage in the pitch and the toss as an important factor but it was the first time a toss messed things and the England struggled against spin in the first day and i wonder what will be the situation in the final two days, disaster for England and India will win the match easily .

Its not a 5 day test for sure.  

The way things going on, would say max 4 day test and that too if India manage to survive day 2. And if by any chance English batsmen are too generous to the hosts then who knows if it finish with in 3 days.

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Yeah right!! drop the Kohli, nice way to go Ollie Pope...
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No damage done for England.

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[Vishnu.Reang]

Contrary to the expectations the D/N match offered no special assistance to the pacers. Perhaps England made a mistake by picking three pacers (Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad and James Anderson). They could have replaced one of their pacers with Dom Bess. Ben Stokes can also bowl some medium pace, so essentially there are four pacers in the playing XI now. But their bowlers are not going to make any difference in this match. First of all, their batsmen need to make a decent total, so that the bowlers have at least some target to keep in mind.

[mersal]

Contrary to the expectations the D/N match offered no special assistance to the pacers. Perhaps England made a mistake by picking three pacers (Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad and James Anderson). They could have replaced one of their pacers with Dom Bess. Ben Stokes can also bowl some medium pace, so essentially there are four pacers in the playing XI now. But their bowlers are not going to make any difference in this match. First of all, their batsmen need to make a decent total, so that the bowlers have at least some target to keep in mind.

ENG's only spinner managed to get two wickets in the 20 overs he bowled, team India knows the actual pitch condition that is why they choose to play with three spinners who also can play long innings with their bat, advantage of being a home team can be felt. But as this was hyped spectators didn't get much chance to see the runs but as long as their team in in the commanding position they won't get hurt.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Contrary to the expectations the D/N match offered no special assistance to the pacers. Perhaps England made a mistake by picking three pacers (Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad and James Anderson). They could have replaced one of their pacers with Dom Bess. Ben Stokes can also bowl some medium pace, so essentially there are four pacers in the playing XI now. But their bowlers are not going to make any difference in this match. First of all, their batsmen need to make a decent total, so that the bowlers have at least some target to keep in mind.

ENG's only spinner managed to get two wickets in the 20 overs he bowled, team India knows the actual pitch condition that is why they choose to play with three spinners who also can play long innings with their bat, advantage of being a home team can be felt. But as this was hyped spectators didn't get much chance to see the runs but as long as their team in in the commanding position they won't get hurt.

I understand why England went with just one spinner, although I would have linked Dom Bess in the playing XI. During the first test, it was James Anderson who handed over win to England. And in the second test, they lost because Anderson was not playing and the spinners gave away too many runs. Perhaps the team management could have went with 5 bowlers, including Bess.

[teosanru]

Ha!
England going with 3 pacer and India opted for 3 spinners   What's happening here, I'm sure 1 captain got wrong idea about the pitch.
You could say that India playing with 3 bowling all rounders (Ashwin, Axar and Sundar).

I am not aware of the pitch and the discussion i saw here was all about the fast bowlers having an advantage in the pitch and the toss as an important factor but it was the first time a toss messed things and the England struggled against spin in the first day and i wonder what will be the situation in the final two days, disaster for England and India will win the match easily .

Its not a 5 day test for sure.  

The way things going on, would say max 4 day test and that too if India manage to survive day 2. And if by any chance English batsmen are too generous to the hosts then who knows if it finish with in 3 days.

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Yeah right!! drop the Kohli, nice way to go Ollie Pope...
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No damage done for England.

3 days? If England would have just around 2 experienced spinners in their squad this could have been the shortest test in the history of test matches. Now the way they are bowling now India can bat 2 sessions tomorrow quite easily considering Ashwin and Axar are there so we have a long batting line up. If this happens I don't see even the day 3 being completed because if India gets a lead of 200 odd runs in two sessions. Making 200 for England on this track on day 3 would be more like impossible. This could surely break the record of shrotest day night match.

[Clement Kaliyar]

Contrary to the expectations the D/N match offered no special assistance to the pacers. Perhaps England made a mistake by picking three pacers (Jofra Archer, Stuart Broad and James Anderson). They could have replaced one of their pacers with Dom Bess. Ben Stokes can also bowl some medium pace, so essentially there are four pacers in the playing XI now. But their bowlers are not going to make any difference in this match. First of all, their batsmen need to make a decent total, so that the bowlers have at least some target to keep in mind.

In the first Test i thought Dom Bess bowled well and picked wickets and i thought it was an unfair decision by not playing him after that match and playing with 4 fast bowlers in a dusty pitch looks funny  . India included an extra spinner in Washington Sundar but he did not even get a chance to bowl a single delivery as Ashwin and Axar Patel bowled majority of the overs and picked all the wickets.

[vella85]

That was a poor batting performance by England, I watched the first session before I went to sleep but I didn't miss much as England were bowled out cheaply. India look to be in a strong position and should take their time now to pile on the runs as I think England will struggle to chase anything over 300 runs so we could see India bat only once in this match as long as this partnership with Sharma and Rahane goes strong.

[Haunebu]

3 days? If England would have just around 2 experienced spinners in their squad this could have been the shortest test in the history of test matches.

England really messed up in this aspect. They should have learnt from the previous test match by including more spinners as you mentioned. Ali is a great example. Allowing Axar to play turned out to be an epic decision.

India look to be in a strong position and should take their time now to pile on the runs as I think England will struggle to chase anything over 300 runs so we could see India bat only once in this match as long as this partnership with Sharma and Rahane goes strong.

At this point, India seems like it could provide a 200+ lead unless they collapse which I doubt will happen considering the depth of their batting line-up.

[eaLiTy]

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I don't expect England to dominate, even if they win the toss. Anderson is in the playing XI and that is going to be a big boost for England. For India, the pace attack will be led by Ishant/Umesh/Jasprit and if the conditions suit them, then the England batsmen will be in trouble. BTW, I don't give much importance to the fact that this is a D/N match. The pitch conditions are going to favor spinners as usual.

The dew factor and the reverse swing was considered to be a major factor that will help fast bowlers but the pitch looks like it is tailor made for India to win the match and England fell for the trap set as they just picked one spinner for the match and the Indian spinners dominating the first day and picked 9 wickets and spinners taking 11 wickets in the first day of the match means England was foxed by the pitch as they picked a spinner in the team .

[Sithara007]

The dew factor and the reverse swing was considered to be a major factor that will help fast bowlers but the pitch looks like it is tailor made for India to win the match and England fell for the trap set as they just picked one spinner for the match and the Indian spinners dominating the first day and picked 9 wickets and spinners taking 11 wickets in the first day of the match means England was foxed by the pitch as they picked a spinner in the team .

It is foolish to believe that the Indian pitches would offer any type of support to the pace bowlers. But I can understand the logic behind England picking only one spinner. Dom Bess was very wayward during the second innings of the first test, and also we need to keep in mind that the Indian batsmen are very good players of spin. On top of that, it doesn't make any sense to drop one among these three - Stuart Broad, James Anderson and Jofra Archer, in favor of Bess.

[pakhitheboss]

It seems Kohli has been struggling with his batting, I thought he would stick to the ground till the end but was out for just 27 runs. All hopes are now with Rohit Sharma and Rahane, they both need to stick to the wicket till the end of the match today if India wants to put on a big score.

[bryant.coleman]

It seems Kohli has been struggling with his batting, I thought he would stick to the ground till the end but was out for just 27 runs. All hopes are now with Rohit Sharma and Rahane, they both need to stick to the wicket till the end of the match today if India wants to put on a big score.

Rohit is not the type of batsman who has the patience to bat all day. He prefers scoring runs quickly, irrespective of the ground conditions. India would be looking at a total of above 300, which can probably give them an innings victory. But if the lower order batsmen are able to make some good scores, then they can go much beyond that. Anyway for England, the match is essentially over and they are heading towards a humiliating defeat.

[JSRAW]

It seems Kohli has been struggling with his batting, I thought he would stick to the ground till the end but was out for just 27 runs.

5 innings done and dusted for Kohli still no century. He's class batsmen and his conversion rate is best in the world so you don't expect him to fail continuously or miss out 100s. By his standard failure comes when he doesn't convert his 50s to big 100s. He was set in the second inning of first 2 tests where he scored 72 and 62 respectively but failed to convert, hope he's not competing with the Root lol (Root wasted 3-4 years due to this)

[mersal]

It seems Kohli has been struggling with his batting, I thought he would stick to the ground till the end but was out for just 27 runs. All hopes are now with Rohit Sharma and Rahane, they both need to stick to the wicket till the end of the match today if India wants to put on a big score.

Rohit is not the type of batsman who has the patience to bat all day. He prefers scoring runs quickly, irrespective of the ground conditions. India would be looking at a total of above 300, which can probably give them an innings victory. But if the lower order batsmen are able to make some good scores, then they can go much beyond that. Anyway for England, the match is essentially over and they are heading towards a humiliating defeat.

Rohit is a batsman who can convert good start into huge total in ODI as well as in Test, in this match also he got good start hope it will be another century by him.Match already started and everything looks good at the moment, and also IND already lead by 2 runs with still 7 wickets in hand hope they can put 200+ lead at least when they bowled out.

[JSRAW]

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England need quick wickets, not just 1 or 2 but at least 10 early wickets for comeback.  

Well, this joke didn't age well in Indian perspective   England already took 7 quick wickets. 4 to leach and 2 to golden arm skipper Joe Root.

Let's target 50 runs lead, shall we?  

So far 13 runs lead and 3 more wickets to go.

India is batting last, just to you guys know.

And Axar is gone ...... 3 wickets for Joe Root.

[GbitG]

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England need quick wickets, not just 1 or 2 but at least 10 early wickets for comeback.  

Well, this joke didn't age well in Indian perspective   England already took 7 quick wickets. 4 to leach and 2 to golden arm skipper Joe Root.

Let's target 50 runs lead, shall we?  

So far 13 runs lead and 3 more wickets to go.

India is batting last, just to you guys know.

And Axar is gone ...... 3 wickets for Joe Root.

I was not expecting fight back like this from Englishmen they done great job and now India is in pressure because they have to bat last even its just second day of this match very good bowling from Leach and Root both takes 7 wickets no Indian batsmen stay in front of them very early and interesting end of this match is waiting for us.

[Vishnu.Reang]

I was not expecting fight back like this from Englishmen they done great job and now India is in pressure because they have to bat last even its just second day of this match very good bowling from Leach and Root both takes 7 wickets no Indian batsmen stay in front of them very early and interesting end of this match is waiting for us.

When Joe Root picks up 3 wickets without conceding a run, you known how much this surface supports the spinners. But I am not sure whether the strategy from England is right. They need just 2 more wickets and suddenly they became defensive against Ashwin. They are desperately trying to keep him out of strike, and in doing that they are conceding boundaries. They took the first 8 wickets by attacking and they need to continue doing it. Once they go defensive, they lose the momentum.

Oh.. Ashwin got out just now.. 4th wicket for Root.

[GbitG]

I was not expecting fight back like this from Englishmen they done great job and now India is in pressure because they have to bat last even its just second day of this match very good bowling from Leach and Root both takes 7 wickets no Indian batsmen stay in front of them very early and interesting end of this match is waiting for us.

When Joe Root picks up 3 wickets without conceding a run, you known how much this surface supports the spinners. But I am not sure whether the strategy from England is right. They need just 2 more wickets and suddenly they became defensive against Ashwin. They are desperately trying to keep him out of strike, and in doing that they are conceding boundaries. They took the first 8 wickets by attacking and they need to continue doing it. Once they go defensive, they lose the momentum.

Oh.. Ashwin got out just now.. 4th wicket for Root.

What the hell is going on just 3 balls and 2 Englishmen out without disturbing scorer they are playing like really crap against this pink ball.

[Vishnu.Reang]

England batsmen are really struggling. I don't know whether they will be able to make a total of above 33, to make India bat again. In all probability, this test match is going to end in just two days. 65 overs remaining, and I guess it is more than enough for India to take the remaining 8 wickets and to chase the target. But a lot of questions will be asked about the pitch. If India had managed a good score in their first innings, then it was OK. But even the Indian batsmen were not able to score runs. Looking forward to tweets from Michael Vaughan. 

[Btc_1856]

England batsmen are really struggling. I don't know whether they will be able to make a total of above 33, to make India bat again. In all probability, this test match is going to end in just two days. 65 overs remaining, and I guess it is more than enough for India to take the remaining 8 wickets and to chase the target. But a lot of questions will be asked about the pitch. If India had managed a good score in their first innings, then it was OK. But even the Indian batsmen were not able to score runs. Looking forward to tweets from Michael Vaughan. 

What you said is right, even an Indian batsman is struggling to score the runs, it was very tough for England to score the runs, Axar is the man who is getting most wickets in this match, I don't know why the pitch turns out to be very tough for the batsman, especially for the when spinners are bowling?