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May 04, 2021, 02:05:41 PM
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Test series? Why would you want one, it takes 2-3 weeks for 2 match test series. You can imagine what would happen if 3 nations playing test cricket with each others back to back. For limited overs cricket we already have Asia cup, which getting delayed but its temporary.

It makes no sense to conduct a trilateral test series. Even if the teams play against each other only once, the entire series is going to take one and half months. On top of that, the revenue generation is going to me much lower when compared to T20 or ODI series. IMO, test series should be purely a bilateral affair and we already have the WTC to rank the teams in this format. Extended global tournaments are just not feasible with the longer format.
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May 06, 2021, 10:59:26 PM
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I wish if there was a series between Pakistan, Bangladesh and Srilanka. All three of them are equal in terms of performance currently and we could see some exciting matches between the three teams.

Talking about these three teams, what happened to the Asia Cup? The last time we had that tournament was way back in 2018, in the United Arab Emirates. Another edition was scheduled to be held in 2020, but it was postponed due to COVID 19. Initially it was scheduled for June 2021, but from what I am hearing, it is again postponed and may not happen this year. Even the qualifier tournament hasn't completed as of yet. 10-15 years back, it used to be one of the most popular cricket tournaments.  

Covid is not the main reason why the Asia Cup is delayed. It just that india refuses to play in Pakistan for Asia cup. Due to political issues, India cannot come to Pakistan to play the Asia Cup and ICC wouldn't like Asia Cup to be played without India.

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May 07, 2021, 03:15:27 AM
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Covid is not the main reason why the Asia Cup is delayed. It just that india refuses to play in Pakistan for Asia cup. Due to political issues, India cannot come to Pakistan to play the Asia Cup and ICC wouldn't like Asia Cup to be played without India.

I thought that this issue was resolved already. The BCCI and the ACC had a deal, under which India would visit Pakistan in case the Asia Cup is held there. But right now the BCCI is more focused on IPL and bilateral tours, and multi-team events may have to wait. Asia Cup was a prestige tournament 10-15 years ago. Now it has lost its prominence. And the ACC itself has lost much of its power. IMO, rather than pampering to the BCCI, they should have gone ahead with the tournament.

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May 07, 2021, 08:50:10 AM
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Covid is not the main reason why the Asia Cup is delayed. It just that india refuses to play in Pakistan for Asia cup. Due to political issues, India cannot come to Pakistan to play the Asia Cup and ICC wouldn't like Asia Cup to be played without India.

I thought that this issue was resolved already. The BCCI and the ACC had a deal, under which India would visit Pakistan in case the Asia Cup is held there. But right now the BCCI is more focused on IPL and bilateral tours, and multi-team events may have to wait. Asia Cup was a prestige tournament 10-15 years ago. Now it has lost its prominence. And the ACC itself has lost much of its power. IMO, rather than pampering to the BCCI, they should have gone ahead with the tournament.

@Sithara007 I wasn’t aware there was such a treaty between BCCI and ACC, and even under normal situations I doubt that team India would like to travel to Pakistan and play out there. Furthermore these tournaments are organised to earn revenues, and team India generates highest revenue so how will they go ahead without team India?.
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May 07, 2021, 10:05:50 AM
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Covid is not the main reason why the Asia Cup is delayed. It just that india refuses to play in Pakistan for Asia cup. Due to political issues, India cannot come to Pakistan to play the Asia Cup and ICC wouldn't like Asia Cup to be played without India.

I thought that this issue was resolved already. The BCCI and the ACC had a deal, under which India would visit Pakistan in case the Asia Cup is held there. But right now the BCCI is more focused on IPL and bilateral tours, and multi-team events may have to wait. Asia Cup was a prestige tournament 10-15 years ago. Now it has lost its prominence. And the ACC itself has lost much of its power. IMO, rather than pampering to the BCCI, they should have gone ahead with the tournament.
Wasn't aware of any such contract between BCCI and ACC. And i'm failed to understand why ACC, PCB or anyone else expecting India to visit Pakistan when there is clearly shitload amount of bad blood between those in recent times.

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May 07, 2021, 02:48:23 PM
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Covid is not the main reason why the Asia Cup is delayed. It just that india refuses to play in Pakistan for Asia cup. Due to political issues, India cannot come to Pakistan to play the Asia Cup and ICC wouldn't like Asia Cup to be played without India.

I thought that this issue was resolved already. The BCCI and the ACC had a deal, under which India would visit Pakistan in case the Asia Cup is held there. But right now the BCCI is more focused on IPL and bilateral tours, and multi-team events may have to wait. Asia Cup was a prestige tournament 10-15 years ago. Now it has lost its prominence. And the ACC itself has lost much of its power. IMO, rather than pampering to the BCCI, they should have gone ahead with the tournament.

Do you have any link to this contract between BCCI and the ACC or any article link confirming this news ?
As long as Narendra Modi is the president for India, don't expect these two nations players (Pak & Ind)  to visit each other country.
On a serious note, You can expect a war between these two countries and not a cricket match.

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^^ No one is going to war, unless another terrorist attack happens in India. Full fledged war is out of the equation from any war game strategy anyway so don't worry.


BCCI announced their squad for the WTC finals against NZ and England tour.


https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1390673651368792065

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May 07, 2021, 05:47:23 PM
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^^ No one is going to war, unless another terrorist attack happens in India. Full fledged war is out of the equation from any war game strategy anyway so don't worry.

Sorry but i have to go off-topic here. Terrorist attack can be planned in India by India to get a excuse for a full fledged war. The same thing which was done in 9/11 attacks to get a excuse to go all in against the "Taliban's". Also its high time that we also test our nuclear weapons to see how well they perform.

However nature is not allowing any such sort of experiment because covid getting worse in both the countries.

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May 07, 2021, 06:35:02 PM
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^^ No one is going to war, unless another terrorist attack happens in India. Full fledged war is out of the equation from any war game strategy anyway so don't worry.

Sorry but i have to go off-topic here. Terrorist attack can be planned in India by India to get a excuse for a full fledged war. The same thing which was done in 9/11 attacks to get a excuse to go all in against the "Taliban's". Also its high time that we also test our nuclear weapons to see how well they perform.

However nature is not allowing any such sort of experiment because covid getting worse in both the countries.

Why are talking about war and other non relevant stuff. People are dying in every part of the world because of the pandemic. We had cricket to cope up with the stress. At the moment we do not have anything. Let's think about peace and pray to god that this pandemic gets over soon.

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Terrorist attack can be planned in India by India to get a excuse for a full fledged war. The same thing which was done in 9/11 attacks to get a excuse to go all in against the "Taliban's". Also its high time that we also test our nuclear weapons to see how well they perform.
No idea about the war between India and Pakistan but i know they are not friendly countries but when you talk about other things you need to have facts, people died when the fucking terrorist hijacked multiple aeroplane and crashed into buildings and it is not a bed time story, no idea from where you are doctrine to have these kind of conspiracy theories that 9/11 is created as an excuse to attack Taliban Roll Eyes.
During that period there were attacks in different parts of the world like London, France etc and you think all these countries came together to create a plan to attack other countries Roll Eyes.

BCCI announced their squad for the WTC finals against NZ and England tour.
The Indian team is really strong and there will be a selection confusion about who will be in the playing eleven.
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BCCI announced their squad for the WTC finals against NZ and England tour.
The Indian team is really strong and there will be a selection confusion about who will be in the playing eleven.
Everyone is worried about the same as Virat does have a habit of messing up with the combinations. Good thing is Hardik is not part of the squad, he's not bowling since last year and didn't play any test cricket, otherwise you could imagine Virat favoring him instead of other player.

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Pakistan and Zimbabwe are playing and Pakistan started well and they had a good start but then they lost some quick wickets during the last session. The odds were not that great but i placed a small bet on Zimbabwe to win as i thought Pakistan can be unpredictable at times and they can mess this match up but until now they are going well and it all depends upon how Zimbabwe will bat.
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Pakistan and Zimbabwe are playing and Pakistan started well and they had a good start but then they lost some quick wickets during the last session. The odds were not that great but i placed a small bet on Zimbabwe to win as i thought Pakistan can be unpredictable at times and they can mess this match up but until now they are going well and it all depends upon how Zimbabwe will bat.
Odds were not great? At one point it was around @28ish, you sure your bet is on Zimbabwe or not Pakistan? Anyway it would be big upset if Zimbabwe went to win or draw the game against the Pakistan. Their bowlers should roll them over quite easily imo.

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Pakistan and Zimbabwe are playing and Pakistan started well and they had a good start but then they lost some quick wickets during the last session. The odds were not that great but i placed a small bet on Zimbabwe to win as i thought Pakistan can be unpredictable at times and they can mess this match up but until now they are going well and it all depends upon how Zimbabwe will bat.

Zimbabwe is just a shadow of their former self two decades ago. Rarely they may become competitive in the ODI or T20 format, but it is too much to expect from them to perform well in the test format. I still don't understand why teams such as Pakistan agrees to play test matches against Zimbabwe. No one really gains from such one sided matches. Apart from Brendan Taylor and Blessing Muzarabani, there are no other players capable of playing in the test format within the Zimbabwe squad.

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^^ No one is going to war, unless another terrorist attack happens in India. Full fledged war is out of the equation from any war game strategy anyway so don't worry.

Sorry but i have to go off-topic here. Terrorist attack can be planned in India by India to get a excuse for a full fledged war. The same thing which was done in 9/11 attacks to get a excuse to go all in against the "Taliban's". Also its high time that we also test our nuclear weapons to see how well they perform.

However nature is not allowing any such sort of experiment because covid getting worse in both the countries.

Why are talking about war and other non relevant stuff. People are dying in every part of the world because of the pandemic. We had cricket to cope up with the stress. At the moment we do not have anything. Let's think about peace and pray to god that this pandemic gets over soon.

I too wish there is peace everywhere and pandemic also ends so we could resume to normal activities including the sporting n cricketing events.


Pakistan and Zimbabwe are playing and Pakistan started well and they had a good start but then they lost some quick wickets during the last session. The odds were not that great but i placed a small bet on Zimbabwe to win as i thought Pakistan can be unpredictable at times and they can mess this match up but until now they are going well and it all depends upon how Zimbabwe will bat.

Pakistani is unpredictable in the shorter format of the game. I don't think they will loose the test match against Zimbabwe. You might lose you bet this time.

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May 08, 2021, 05:04:56 AM
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Odds were not great? At one point it was around @28ish, you sure your bet is on Zimbabwe or not Pakistan? Anyway it would be big upset if Zimbabwe went to win or draw the game against the Pakistan. Their bowlers should roll them over quite easily imo.

Given the unpredictability of Pakistan, it looks attractive to make a bet on Zimbabwe. But the problem is with the format. The chance of an upset occurring is very low in test matches, when compared to the shorter formats. For the last 10-15 years, Zimbabwe hasn't produced enough quality talent, to make up for the loss of their white players who have emigrated to countries such as England and Australia. Zimbabwe is just like a patient on ventilator, who is being kept alive in the form of annual funds form the ICC. When the funds from ICC cease to arrive, the cricket in Zimbabwe will die out.
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Odds were not great? At one point it was around @28ish, you sure your bet is on Zimbabwe or not Pakistan? Anyway it would be big upset if Zimbabwe went to win or draw the game against the Pakistan. Their bowlers should roll them over quite easily imo.

Given the unpredictability of Pakistan, it looks attractive to make a bet on Zimbabwe. But the problem is with the format. The chance of an upset occurring is very low in test matches, when compared to the shorter formats. For the last 10-15 years, Zimbabwe hasn't produced enough quality talent, to make up for the loss of their white players who have emigrated to countries such as England and Australia. Zimbabwe is just like a patient on ventilator, who is being kept alive in the form of annual funds form the ICC. When the funds from ICC cease to arrive, the cricket in Zimbabwe will die out.

I think the cricket in Zimbabwe already died out. In the last 10 years, you will only see Zimbabwe performance going worse with no hope of any change. With no funds, its hard to imagine any emerging cricketing nation to perform well. They need to rebuilt their domestic structure which look impossible for now.

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Odds were not great? At one point it was around @28ish, you sure your bet is on Zimbabwe or not Pakistan? Anyway it would be big upset if Zimbabwe went to win or draw the game against the Pakistan. Their bowlers should roll them over quite easily imo.

Given the unpredictability of Pakistan, it looks attractive to make a bet on Zimbabwe. But the problem is with the format. The chance of an upset occurring is very low in test matches, when compared to the shorter formats. For the last 10-15 years, Zimbabwe hasn't produced enough quality talent, to make up for the loss of their white players who have emigrated to countries such as England and Australia. Zimbabwe is just like a patient on ventilator, who is being kept alive in the form of annual funds form the ICC. When the funds from ICC cease to arrive, the cricket in Zimbabwe will die out.

I think the cricket in Zimbabwe already died out. In the last 10 years, you will only see Zimbabwe performance going worse with no hope of any change. With no funds, its hard to imagine any emerging cricketing nation to perform well. They need to rebuilt their domestic structure which look impossible for now.



Pakistan is in a very strong position now 353/7 is a good score against Zimbabwe. You have to expect the Pakistan team to win this match. Zimbabwe is not that good with Test cricket for an obvious reason and that is they have not played a lot of test cricket with good teams. This match will be an experience for Zimbabwe.

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May 08, 2021, 12:26:58 PM
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Zimbabwe is just a shadow of their former self two decades ago. Rarely they may become competitive in the ODI or T20 format, but it is too much to expect from them to perform well in the test format. I still don't understand why teams such as Pakistan agrees to play test matches against Zimbabwe. No one really gains from such one sided matches. Apart from Brendan Taylor and Blessing Muzarabani, there are no other players capable of playing in the test format within the Zimbabwe squad.
This is like a warm up test series for Pakistan. They are playing with a week team but it will help them to gain some experience. Pakistani batsman and bowler can increase their skill from this series. Unexpected thing may also happens at this kind of match. But the situation is out of control for Zimbabwe now. After the end of second session of day 2, Pakistani batsman have scored 505 runs till now. Abid Ali scored 215 runs and Nauman Ali is only 7 run away from his first test century. They are trying to make some quick runs now. There would be nothing to surprise if Pakistan win this test by an innings like the previous one.

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May 08, 2021, 12:30:00 PM
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Pakistan is in a very strong position now 353/7 is a good score against Zimbabwe.

505/7 at the end of tea on the 2nd day and don't forget Abid Ali still playing at 215. I am sure some records for the 7th wicket partnership in test matches may have shattered today. Pakistan will easily this match but point of interest now is whether Abid Ali make a triple century ?

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