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Test playing teams should be divided into two groups. The first group will have first-tier teams like India, New Zealand, and England. And in the second group, will play a team like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan. And no Test match will be played between any team in Group A or any team in Group B. If Bangladesh will play a test match against a team like India or Newzeland, there will be no competition.
Two divisions are needed, because the gap between the pig 3 sides and smaller nations such as Sri Lanka are increasing. I would rather prefer three divisions of test cricket. It will be as follows: Division 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, England and Pakistan Division 2: South Africa, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and West Indies Division 3: Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland and Nepal. I like your 3 divisions. But I think Pakistan should be given second division. The first division will include England, New Zealand, Australia, and India. There is no continuity in Pakistan's game. If they perform well in a match, then they lose badly in the next match. I don't think Pakistan is a first-tier team now.
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July 01, 2021, 07:44:09 AM |
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I like your 3 divisions. But I think Pakistan should be given second division. The first division will include England, New Zealand, Australia, and India. There is no continuity in Pakistan's game. If they perform well in a match, then they lose badly in the next match. I don't think Pakistan is a first-tier team now.
Perhaps the classification took the market size in to account. Pakistan is the largest market for cricket in Asia, after India. So their matches are guaranteed to have a consistent audience and viewership, irrespective of their form. It is not so for the smaller markets such as Sri Lanka, West Indies and South Africa. Having a larger player pool and population means that there is a chance that their performance will improve in the future. On the other hand, teams such as Sri Lanka are having a limited pool of players and therefore the chances that they will produce world class players on a consistent basis is low.
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Test playing teams should be divided into two groups. The first group will have first-tier teams like India, New Zealand, and England. And in the second group, will play a team like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan. And no Test match will be played between any team in Group A or any team in Group B. If Bangladesh will play a test match against a team like India or Newzeland, there will be no competition.
Two divisions are needed, because the gap between the pig 3 sides and smaller nations such as Sri Lanka are increasing. I would rather prefer three divisions of test cricket. It will be as follows: Division 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, England and Pakistan Division 2: South Africa, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and West Indies Division 3: Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland and Nepal. Ind-Pak are not going to play so they might end up playing with only SENA countries in this system. Guess we discussed this topic couple of times here, anyway IMO it would be better if they could divide teams into 2 group according to their ranking. As of now we have 12 tests playing nations. Group A : Top 1-6 ranking team Group B : Bottom 7-12 ranking team
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July 01, 2021, 01:07:58 PM |
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Test playing teams should be divided into two groups. The first group will have first-tier teams like India, New Zealand, and England. And in the second group, will play a team like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan. And no Test match will be played between any team in Group A or any team in Group B. If Bangladesh will play a test match against a team like India or Newzeland, there will be no competition.
Two divisions are needed, because the gap between the pig 3 sides and smaller nations such as Sri Lanka are increasing. I would rather prefer three divisions of test cricket. It will be as follows: Division 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, England and Pakistan Division 2: South Africa, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and West Indies Division 3: Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland and Nepal. Ind-Pak are not going to play so they might end up playing with only SENA countries in this system. Guess we discussed this topic couple of times here, anyway IMO it would be better if they could divide teams into 2 group according to their ranking. As of now we have 12 tests playing nations. Group A : Top 1-6 ranking team Group B : Bottom 7-12 ranking team Whenever there is an ICC tournament, I check first whether India and Pakistan are playing the league matches. Almost all the time they are not nowadays and this makes me unhappy. I am sure most of us are in the same boat, and I am also thinking whether BCCI has a part to play in all these. The division is quite good considering that the top 6 ranking teams are in a separate group. The best out of the 6 will be part of the final and will be the winner too as the bottom ranking team will not have any chance against them. So eventually out of the top 6 team one will be the winner.
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July 01, 2021, 05:01:24 PM |
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Two divisions are needed, because the gap between the pig 3 sides and smaller nations such as Sri Lanka are increasing. I would rather prefer three divisions of test cricket. It will be as follows:
Division 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, England and Pakistan Division 2: South Africa, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and West Indies Division 3: Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland and Nepal.
Ind-Pak are not going to play so they might end up playing with only SENA countries in this system. Guess we discussed this topic couple of times here, anyway IMO it would be better if they could divide teams into 2 group according to their ranking. As of now we have 12 tests playing nations. Group A : Top 1-6 ranking team Group B : Bottom 7-12 ranking team[/quote] For my part, I am OK with this system as well. But my question for you is whether you are OK with a total of 15 test matches in 2 year cycle (each team playing against the other teams 3 matches each)? That would mean 7-8 matches per year, instead of your preference of 9-10. Also, I would like to have a third division, consisting of teams ranked 13-18. Now I don't think that the ICC would like to spend their money to schedule the third division, for teams such as Scotland and Nepal. So it will remain in pipeline for a few years.
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Ind-Pak are not going to play so they might end up playing with only SENA countries in this system.
Guess we discussed this topic couple of times here, anyway IMO it would be better if they could divide teams into 2 group according to their ranking. As of now we have 12 tests playing nations.
Group A : Top 1-6 ranking team Group B : Bottom 7-12 ranking team For my part, I am OK with this system as well. But my question for you is whether you are OK with a total of 15 test matches in 2 year cycle (each team playing against the other teams 3 matches each)? That would mean 7-8 matches per year, instead of your preference of 9-10. Also, I would like to have a third division, consisting of teams ranked 13-18. Now I don't think that the ICC would like to spend their money to schedule the third division, for teams such as Scotland and Nepal. So it will remain in pipeline for a few years. If our major concern is WTC then 15 tests matches (3 match series * 5 series) in 2 year cycle sounds logical solution to me. You can't have system where one team playing 20 match and other team only playing 10, not fair imo. 9-10 Test matches are not my preference but BIG 3 eco system for the red ball cricket. This trio played around 18-21 test match in last wtc cycle. Yeah they won't because its not good for business.
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Test playing teams should be divided into two groups. The first group will have first-tier teams like India, New Zealand, and England. And in the second group, will play a team like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Afghanistan. And no Test match will be played between any team in Group A or any team in Group B. If Bangladesh will play a test match against a team like India or Newzeland, there will be no competition.
Two divisions are needed, because the gap between the pig 3 sides and smaller nations such as Sri Lanka are increasing. I would rather prefer three divisions of test cricket. It will be as follows: Division 1: India, Australia, New Zealand, England and Pakistan Division 2: South Africa, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and West Indies Division 3: Zimbabwe, Ireland, Netherlands, Scotland and Nepal. Ind-Pak are not going to play so they might end up playing with only SENA countries in this system. Guess we discussed this topic couple of times here, anyway IMO it would be better if they could divide teams into 2 group according to their ranking. As of now we have 12 tests playing nations. Group A : Top 1-6 ranking team Group B : Bottom 7-12 ranking team It is better to divide it into two groups. We don't have to watch unequal or one-sided series anymore. Many may say that small teams play against big teams to enhance their experience. I don't think so. Smaller teams lost by an innings in most matches against big teams. They are gaining experience but their performance is not improving. I am not interested in watching Test series of smaller countries with India, New Zealand England and Australia.
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July 02, 2021, 09:21:23 AM |
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It is better to divide it into two groups. We don't have to watch unequal or one-sided series anymore. Many may say that small teams play against big teams to enhance their experience. I don't think so. Smaller teams lost by an innings in most matches against big teams. They are gaining experience but their performance is not improving. I am not interested in watching Test series of smaller countries with India, New Zealand England and Australia.
Once in a while teams from the first division should play against teams in the second division. So we can have series between teams such as Australia and West Indies, and between India and Sri Lanka. But the same should be applicable to teams from the second division. They should also be willing to play matches against smaller teams such as Scotland and Netherlands (i.e from the third division). Now how many of these matches need to be played in a 2 year cycle can be decided by the boards that are involved. I would limit it to just one series of two matches.
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It is better to divide it into two groups. We don't have to watch unequal or one-sided series anymore. Many may say that small teams play against big teams to enhance their experience. I don't think so. Smaller teams lost by an innings in most matches against big teams. They are gaining experience but their performance is not improving. I am not interested in watching Test series of smaller countries with India, New Zealand England and Australia.
Once in a while teams from the first division should play against teams in the second division. So we can have series between teams such as Australia and West Indies, and between India and Sri Lanka. But the same should be applicable to teams from the second division. They should also be willing to play matches against smaller teams such as Scotland and Netherlands (i.e from the third division). Now how many of these matches need to be played in a 2 year cycle can be decided by the boards that are involved. I would limit it to just one series of two matches. ICC can't force anyone. So everything comes down to bilateral series and voluntary commitment from the individual boards, they could organize test series with in their WTC schedule. One example is England visiting NZ last year or so to play 2 tests match series and NZ did the same last month before the WTC finals, both series had no relevance in WTC cycle. IMO Big 3 should support small teams such as Scotland-Netherlands-Afghanistan with 1 bilateral series once a while because BIG 3 brings revenue with them specially India. As of now India Play with SL and once a while with Bangladesh to keep them going. England did the same with Ireland and Australia also planning to play with Afghanistan.
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July 03, 2021, 04:25:39 AM |
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IMO Big 3 should support small teams such as Scotland-Netherlands-Afghanistan with 1 bilateral series once a while because BIG 3 brings revenue with them specially India. As of now India Play with SL and once a while with Bangladesh to keep them going. England did the same with Ireland and Australia also planning to play with Afghanistan.
Maybe the boards can make a lot of money from these matches. But as a general spectator no one enjoys these matches. The 5 day match ends in 3 or 4 days. In fact, these matches do not make any sense. Boards need to be aware, build more experienced, patient Test players.
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IMO Big 3 should support small teams such as Scotland-Netherlands-Afghanistan with 1 bilateral series once a while because BIG 3 brings revenue with them specially India. As of now India Play with SL and once a while with Bangladesh to keep them going. England did the same with Ireland and Australia also planning to play with Afghanistan. I don't think that it has happened in the last decade. The last time India played a bilateral series with an associate nation was long back in 2007, when they played one ODI match against Ireland in Belfast. During the last 14 years, India hasn't played against associate nations outside the ICC tournaments. Similarly, the last time Australia played against an associate nation was in 2013 (single ODI against Scotland). South Africa also played against an associate nation for the last time in 2013 (Netherlands). However, England plays matches against their neighbors once in a while - against Ireland in 2020, 2019, 2017 and 2015, and against Scotland in 2018 and 2014.
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season. - Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021 - Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021 - Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021) - Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022 - Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022 Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women) https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1411273892312854529Fixtures : https://resources.platform.bcci.tv/bcci/document/2021/07/03/a2b04788-6685-4ca9-971a-9242ce8c94d2/BCCI-Domestic-Media-Release-.pdf
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season. - Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021 - Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021 - Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021) - Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022 - Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022 Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women) It is a lot of matches and it is good news for the players who were missing out of action for over a year and i assume that they will be paid only when they are playing or does the BCCI or their state board pay them salary on a monthly basis, i have no idea about these details but i know they get paid for playing the match, without any workout i hope there will be many players that are completely out of shape .
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July 04, 2021, 03:41:03 AM |
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season. - Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021 - Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021 - Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021) - Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022 - Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022 Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women) It is a lot of matches and it is good news for the players who were missing out of action for over a year and i assume that they will be paid only when they are playing or does the BCCI or their state board pay them salary on a monthly basis, i have no idea about these details but i know they get paid for playing the match, without any workout i hope there will be many players that are completely out of shape . You are right. It is very good for the players when the matches are held. Many players were deprived of salary allowances at the time of Corona. Players will receive a minimum match fee if the tournaments resume. Let's see if the Corona epidemic can be overcome and the tournaments resumed.
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July 04, 2021, 03:50:09 AM |
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season. - Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021 - Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021 - Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021) - Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022 - Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022 Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women) https://twitter.com/BCCI/status/1411273892312854529Fixtures : https://resources.platform.bcci.tv/bcci/document/2021/07/03/a2b04788-6685-4ca9-971a-9242ce8c94d2/BCCI-Domestic-Media-Release-.pdfThe current domestic structure in India doesn't make any sense. There are too many teams and some of them represent territories which account for less than 0.05% of the total population. On one hand, we have a single team representing Uttar Pradesh (population of 240 million) and on the other hand, we have teams for Union Territories such as Chandigarh and Puducherry (with population of ~1 million). This is the primary reason why the quality of domestic cricket in India is much inferior, when compared to the country championship in England, or Sheffield Shield in Australia.
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^^ Well its not priority for the BCCI atm but i do see possibility of 2-3 teams emerging from the Uttar Pradesh in next decade or so, condition apply; if their economy kicks in. Due to same domestic cricket, India is considered final frontier for every SENA countries. Ranji is different from the Shield, County etc but not inferior IMO. Yes some domestic teams are shit and lack quality but Indian folks should get over this inferiority (Spin pitch -Seam, fast pitches) complex as far as cricket is concern.
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July 04, 2021, 12:11:10 PM |
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Yes some domestic teams are shit and lack quality but Indian folks should get over this inferiority (Spin pitch -Seam, fast pitches) complex as far as cricket is concern. Since the discussion is regarding the domestic teams, i would like to know which are the strongest teams, i guess Mumbai should be a strong team like they have in the IPL after that what are the strongest teams and how many teams are there in these domestic tournaments, since you said Uttar Pradesh might be coming out with three teams, does it mean that every state can assemble more than a team.
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July 04, 2021, 12:11:44 PM |
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^^ Well its not priority for the BCCI atm but i do see possibility of 2-3 teams emerging from the Uttar Pradesh in next decade or so, condition apply; if their economy kicks in. Due to same domestic cricket, India is considered final frontier for every SENA countries. Ranji is different from the Shield, County etc but not inferior IMO. Yes some domestic teams are shit and lack quality but Indian folks should get over this inferiority (Spin pitch -Seam, fast pitches) complex as far as cricket is concern.
The solution is not to add more teams, but to merge the smaller teams. Zone-level competition previously existed in the form of Deodhar Trophy. Then the BCCI changed the tournament and now no such championship exist in Indian domestic cricket. IMO, there can be 6-7 zones - North, Central, West, South, East, Northeast and UP-Bihar. Within each zone, they can have state-level championship. For example, in the North Zone, they can have a tournament involving Jammu-Kashmir-Ladakh, Delhi, Haryana, Punjab-Chandigarh, Uttarakhand, Himachal.etc.
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July 04, 2021, 12:28:21 PM |
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Good news for Indian Domestic cricket, BCCI announced their schedule for 2021-2022 season. - Women's One Day League : Sep 21, 2021 - Women's One Day Challenger Trophy : Oct 27, 2021 - Syed Mushtaq Ali Trophy : Oct 20, 2021 (Final : Nov 12, 2021) - Ranji Trophy : Nov 16, 2021 to Feb 19, 2022 - Vijay Hazare Trophy : Febr 23, 2022 to Mar 26, 2022 Total 2127 Matches, which includes every age group (Men and Women) It is a lot of matches and it is good news for the players who were missing out of action for over a year and i assume that they will be paid only when they are playing or does the BCCI or their state board pay them salary on a monthly basis, i have no idea about these details but i know they get paid for playing the match, without any workout i hope there will be many players that are completely out of shape . BCCI has no idea what is happening in India? The way they have scheduled matches makes me believe that India is pandemic free. Yeah! If those match happen players will get paid but if any one of them gets cancelled they will not. Anyways I do not have time to watch domestic cricket.
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July 04, 2021, 12:37:04 PM |
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BCCI has no idea what is happening in India? The way they have scheduled matches makes me believe that India is pandemic free. Yeah! If those match happen players will get paid but if any one of them gets cancelled they will not. Anyways I do not have time to watch domestic cricket.
The Indian domestic cricket season for men will start from mid-October onwards, and the BCCI is hoping that the pandemic will be under control by then. It may be optimistic, but given the daily vaccination numbers, I have hope. Even the experts are saying that the chances of a third wave is very small, since a majority of the population has been exposed to the virus till now. As of now, only around 4.8% of the population has been fully vaccinated (with another 16% receiving one dose of the vaccine). The numbers are too low, but by October, the government thinks that they will be able to inoculate a large fraction of the population.
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