2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[blockman]

> maybe we can say that Gilas will not get a gold this year on asian games.

That's most likely what will happen. If we lose to Jordan and China beats Jordan, we can't expect to beat China. In addition, China was embarrassed when they lost by a huge margin during the FIBA World Cup. I'm certain that they will come back strong when they face Gilas, whose lineup isn't as strong as during the FIBA World Cup.

And they are saying that this could also be a strategy that the team has made because if they've won against Jordan, they'll certainly face these strong teams. But I am one of those people who won't be expecting to see Gilas getting gold. I'm not trying to be negative that's what really is what's being shown. China is getting the lead on the gold race and for sure they'd be careful on this one and wouldn't want to miss to get a gold medal and I agree after what they've been through with the FIBA, they'll never miss this one but I hope that I am wrong.

[freedomgo]

I'm surprised by the betting odds for the Philippines vs. Qatar match.

They will play today at 4:00 PM Philippine time.

For the moneyline and spread:
Philippines: 1.04 (-17.50)
Qatar: 10.50 (+17.50)

I initially thought this would be a close match, but judging by the betting odds and spread, it seems that the Philippines has a significant advantage. It appears to be an easy win for them. However, I'm still having doubts due to what happened in the last game.

So, what are your thoughts, everyone?

[bisdak40]

I'm surprised by the betting odds for the Philippines vs. Qatar match.

They will play today at 4:00 PM Philippine time.

For the moneyline and spread:
Philippines: 1.04 (-17.50)
Qatar: 10.50 (+17.50)

I initially thought this would be a close match, but judging by the betting odds and spread, it seems that the Philippines has a significant advantage. It appears to be an easy win for them. However, I'm still having doubts due to what happened in the last game.

So, what are your thoughts, everyone?

I'm surprised with that wide margin too but maybe bookies are considering the higher ranking of Gilas that Qatar and they are number 2 in Group C while Qatar is number 3 in Group D (just my speculation).

Betting for the Philippines with that high spread is so risky, just like what i have said in my previous post that this version of Gilas lacks the bench firepower, i mean their second five is not that deadly like the first five.

I hope Gilas will win today but with regards to my bet, i will back Qatar with that +17.5 handicap as most likely Gilas can't cover that spread.

Good luck to us guys, bet wisely.

[Fredomago]

And they are saying that this could also be a strategy that the team has made because if they've won against Jordan, they'll certainly face these strong teams. But I am one of those people who won't be expecting to see Gilas getting gold. I'm not trying to be negative that's what really is what's being shown. China is getting the lead on the gold race and for sure they'd be careful on this one and wouldn't want to miss to get a gold medal and I agree after what they've been through with the FIBA, they'll never miss this one but I hope that I am wrong.

Either it's true or not the journey for taking the gold medal still possible, we do have game/s to win and if they will make it up to the finals, then we will see if what will be the fate of this new sets of gilas squad, I'm no longer being bothered by any critics as it's part of the system, I mean if you win there's still something to say about it and if you lose expect more to hear about it, so moving forward as long as the ASIAN tournament is not yet ended then who knows if luck permits maybe we will make it.

But your last statement has a big factor. China as the host country will do everything we can't do anything about it, though after watching how Jordan plays against us, the chance for gold is not just for China but also for this squad.

[freedomgo]

I'm surprised by the betting odds for the Philippines vs. Qatar match.

They will play today at 4:00 PM Philippine time.

For the moneyline and spread:
Philippines: 1.04 (-17.50)
Qatar: 10.50 (+17.50)

I initially thought this would be a close match, but judging by the betting odds and spread, it seems that the Philippines has a significant advantage. It appears to be an easy win for them. However, I'm still having doubts due to what happened in the last game.

So, what are your thoughts, everyone?

I'm surprised with that wide margin too but maybe bookies are considering the higher ranking of Gilas that Qatar and they are number 2 in Group C while Qatar is number 3 in Group D (just my speculation).

Betting for the Philippines with that high spread is so risky, just like what i have said in my previous post that this version of Gilas lacks the bench firepower, i mean their second five is not that deadly like the first five.

I hope Gilas will win today but with regards to my bet, i will back Qatar with that +17.5 handicap as most likely Gilas can't cover that spread.

Good luck to us guys, bet wisely.

I agree with you; it's too risky because Gilas is not a very consistent team. They were the heavy favorite against Thailand. I'm not sure what the spread was, but I'm certain it was at least -20. In that game, it was evident that Thailand almost completed a good comeback before they ran out of gas in the remaining minutes. So, with this high spread, we can say that the Philippines will likely win, but the question here is, "can they cover the spread?"

Yeah, bet wisely.

[blockman]

And they are saying that this could also be a strategy that the team has made because if they've won against Jordan, they'll certainly face these strong teams. But I am one of those people who won't be expecting to see Gilas getting gold. I'm not trying to be negative that's what really is what's being shown. China is getting the lead on the gold race and for sure they'd be careful on this one and wouldn't want to miss to get a gold medal and I agree after what they've been through with the FIBA, they'll never miss this one but I hope that I am wrong.

Either it's true or not the journey for taking the gold medal still possible, we do have game/s to win and if they will make it up to the finals, then we will see if what will be the fate of this new sets of gilas squad, I'm no longer being bothered by any critics as it's part of the system, I mean if you win there's still something to say about it and if you lose expect more to hear about it, so moving forward as long as the ASIAN tournament is not yet ended then who knows if luck permits maybe we will make it.

It's possible but everyone is just getting a lower chance thought because of how good the other opponents are. We can that the lost against Jordan was a blessing in disguise because Jordan and China are tough opponents and Gilas was able to move the other bracket without them.
But this shouldn't make us confident and comfortable that the path is going to be easy. Let's just take that every team on this Asiad are good team and that's why they're there. And we don't see that with the Gilas and the coach for now because all they wanna do is focus on reaching the highest placing that they can and hopefully that before this ends, they'll be able to get the gold medal despite including me that I am having lesser hope with that.

But your last statement has a big factor. China as the host country will do everything we can't do anything about it, though after watching how Jordan plays against us, the chance for gold is not just for China but also for this squad.

Yeah, they are a contender so as the Gilas but we will see if they're going to make it or not.

[arwin100]

I'm surprised by the betting odds for the Philippines vs. Qatar match.

They will play today at 4:00 PM Philippine time.

For the moneyline and spread:
Philippines: 1.04 (-17.50)
Qatar: 10.50 (+17.50)

I initially thought this would be a close match, but judging by the betting odds and spread, it seems that the Philippines has a significant advantage. It appears to be an easy win for them. However, I'm still having doubts due to what happened in the last game.

So, what are your thoughts, everyone?

I'm surprised with that wide margin too but maybe bookies are considering the higher ranking of Gilas that Qatar and they are number 2 in Group C while Qatar is number 3 in Group D (just my speculation).

Betting for the Philippines with that high spread is so risky, just like what i have said in my previous post that this version of Gilas lacks the bench firepower, i mean their second five is not that deadly like the first five.

I hope Gilas will win today but with regards to my bet, i will back Qatar with that +17.5 handicap as most likely Gilas can't cover that spread.

Good luck to us guys, bet wisely.

I agree with you; it's too risky because Gilas is not a very consistent team. They were the heavy favorite against Thailand. I'm not sure what the spread was, but I'm certain it was at least -20. In that game, it was evident that Thailand almost completed a good comeback before they ran out of gas in the remaining minutes. So, with this high spread, we can say that the Philippines will likely win, but the question here is, "can they cover the spread?"

Yeah, bet wisely.

By looking at how the game currently flow it shows that they can cover that spread Philippines is now leading at 39 big points and it seems that Qatar doesn't have enough fire power since they miss a lot of their shots. This is easiest game of Philippines and now we can clearly see them win against Qatar. Those who bet with side of Philippines can assure their win now so I guess its safe to say congratulations now since I don't believe that Qatar could able to catch up with the big lead got by Philippines. Philippines next opponent will is a tough one so let see if they could able to bring this overwhelming win and defeat their next opponent to compete for silver or gold medal.

[bisdak40]

By looking at how the game currently flow it shows that they can cover that spread Philippines is now leading at 39 big points and it seems that Qatar doesn't have enough fire power since they miss a lot of their shots. This is easiest game of Philippines and now we can clearly see them win against Qatar. Those who bet with side of Philippines can assure their win now so I guess its safe to say congratulations now since I don't believe that Qatar could able to catch up with the big lead got by Philippines. Philippines next opponent will is a tough one so let see if they could able to bring this overwhelming win and defeat their next opponent to compete for silver or gold medal.

Lost my bet here, i underestimated the Gilas against Qatar too much but it is okay, no regrets and the good thing is that they will advance now into the quarterfinals against the Team B of Iran which i think a very competitive team and can give Gilas a good fight.

The bad news perhaps on this groupings is that Gilas will face China if ever they will succeed in defeating Iran in the quarterfinals. China is the favorite to win the Gold here so i think we will only fighting for the bronze.

[Distinctin]

By looking at how the game currently flow it shows that they can cover that spread Philippines is now leading at 39 big points and it seems that Qatar doesn't have enough fire power since they miss a lot of their shots. This is easiest game of Philippines and now we can clearly see them win against Qatar. Those who bet with side of Philippines can assure their win now so I guess its safe to say congratulations now since I don't believe that Qatar could able to catch up with the big lead got by Philippines. Philippines next opponent will is a tough one so let see if they could able to bring this overwhelming win and defeat their next opponent to compete for silver or gold medal.

Lost my bet here, i underestimated the Gilas against Qatar too much but it is okay, no regrets and the good thing is that they will advance now into the quarterfinals against the Team B of Iran which i think a very competitive team and can give Gilas a good fight.

The bad news perhaps on this groupings is that Gilas will face China if ever they will succeed in defeating Iran in the quarterfinals. China is the favorite to win the Gold here so i think we will only fighting for the bronze.

Huge win by the Philippines! After an embarrassing defeat against Jordan, they bounced back with a very dominant win. I guess the next game will be so exciting if they face Iran. Iran has been one of the toughest opponents for Gilas in the past, especially when Haddadi was still playing. However, I think they are still a good team, so hopefully, this will be a close game, not a game where Gilas will win or lose by a huge margin.

As for the game against China, that's a different story. I believe we would really struggle big time. But let's take it one step at a time, and with that said, let's start by winning against Iran.

[Fredomago]

And they are saying that this could also be a strategy that the team has made because if they've won against Jordan, they'll certainly face these strong teams. But I am one of those people who won't be expecting to see Gilas getting gold. I'm not trying to be negative that's what really is what's being shown. China is getting the lead on the gold race and for sure they'd be careful on this one and wouldn't want to miss to get a gold medal and I agree after what they've been through with the FIBA, they'll never miss this one but I hope that I am wrong.

Either it's true or not the journey for taking the gold medal still possible, we do have game/s to win and if they will make it up to the finals, then we will see if what will be the fate of this new sets of gilas squad, I'm no longer being bothered by any critics as it's part of the system, I mean if you win there's still something to say about it and if you lose expect more to hear about it, so moving forward as long as the ASIAN tournament is not yet ended then who knows if luck permits maybe we will make it.

It's possible but everyone is just getting a lower chance thought because of how good the other opponents are. We can that the lost against Jordan was a blessing in disguise because Jordan and China are tough opponents and Gilas was able to move the other bracket without them.
But this shouldn't make us confident and comfortable that the path is going to be easy. Let's just take that every team on this Asiad are good team and that's why they're there. And we don't see that with the Gilas and the coach for now because all they wanna do is focus on reaching the highest placing that they can and hopefully that before this ends, they'll be able to get the gold medal despite including me that I am having lesser hope with that.

Yes indeed, the focus right now is to keep that hope alive and whatever bracket we are now, Gilas squad needs to work more, we have seen how they play the ball well against the very young squad of Qatar, they really dominated as they play great from both end, I mean, both offense and defense the squad showcase their dominance and take this game against Qatar.,

Looking to see more than once they've faced Iran and hopefully they can continue what they already established, that kind of trust and good ball rotations and that confidence to take every shot knowing that you are already got a clear look at the basket.

But your last statement has a big factor. China as the host country will do everything we can't do anything about it, though after watching how Jordan plays against us, the chance for gold is not just for China but also for this squad.

Yeah, they are a contender so as the Gilas but we will see if they're going to make it or not.

The ball is round as what we Pinoys' always believe, if by fate we will manage to get to the magic 4, semis is really the tough part before the finals, we will see what Gilas will bring to our pride.

[Questat]

Is the game between Iran and the Philippines already over?

I can't find a highlights video on YouTube yet, but I saw this article saying that Gilas defeated Iran by 1 point.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2023/10/gilas-pilipinas-vs-iran-live-2023-asian.html

Gilas Pilipinas def. Iran, 84-83 (VIDEO) 2023 Asian Games | October 3 | Quarterfinal

(Final score)
PHILIPPINES 84-83 IRAN

Quarters: 28-22, 48-36, 71-54, 84-83

[bisdak40]

Is the game between Iran and the Philippines already over?

I can't find a highlights video on YouTube yet, but I saw this article saying that Gilas defeated Iran by 1 point.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2023/10/gilas-pilipinas-vs-iran-live-2023-asian.html

Gilas Pilipinas def. Iran, 84-83 (VIDEO) 2023 Asian Games | October 3 | Quarterfinal

(Final score)
PHILIPPINES 84-83 IRAN

Quarters: 28-22, 48-36, 71-54, 84-83

Yeah, the game is over and Gilas marches on to the semis but not without a scare hehe.

Who would have thought that Iran would take a one point lead with Gilas leading by as much as 20 points in the third quarter.

Luckily for the Gilas, Fajardo and Brownlee made their respective field goals in the dying seconds of the game.

Congrats to those who back the Gilas to win this game.

[Questat]

Is the game between Iran and the Philippines already over?

I can't find a highlights video on YouTube yet, but I saw this article saying that Gilas defeated Iran by 1 point.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2023/10/gilas-pilipinas-vs-iran-live-2023-asian.html

Gilas Pilipinas def. Iran, 84-83 (VIDEO) 2023 Asian Games | October 3 | Quarterfinal

(Final score)
PHILIPPINES 84-83 IRAN

Quarters: 28-22, 48-36, 71-54, 84-83

Yeah, the game is over and Gilas marches on to the semis but not without a scare hehe.

Who would have thought that Iran would take a one point lead with Gilas leading by as much as 20 points in the third quarter.

Luckily for the Gilas, Fajardo and Brownlee made their respective field goals in the dying seconds of the game.

I was thinking Gilas would have at least one day of rest before facing Iran, so I missed the game. I just watched some highlights now and saw how Gilas dominated Iran with a great performance by Brownlee; he was just unstoppable. However, as we've seen in the past, the same problem occurred again; we had a collapse in the last quarter. Luckily, we were able to avoid the loss.

A win is still a win, though. Congratulations to Gilas. So, are they going to face China next?

Congrats to those who back the Gilas to win this game.

What was the spread if I may ask?

[bisdak40]

Congrats to those who back the Gilas to win this game.

What was the spread if I may ask?

Iran was the slight favorite before the game with a 2-point spread.

Below was the ML odds:

Iran @1.76
Gilas @2.13

edit:
I have not bet for Gilas as i have second thoughts on them because they just played yesterday and Iran was well rested.

I just bet on the China vs Korea game which fortunately my bet win also, China -6.5 @1.89, not bad lol.

[avp2306]

Is the game between Iran and the Philippines already over?

I can't find a highlights video on YouTube yet, but I saw this article saying that Gilas defeated Iran by 1 point.

https://www.teampilipinas.info/2023/10/gilas-pilipinas-vs-iran-live-2023-asian.html

Gilas Pilipinas def. Iran, 84-83 (VIDEO) 2023 Asian Games | October 3 | Quarterfinal

(Final score)
PHILIPPINES 84-83 IRAN

Quarters: 28-22, 48-36, 71-54, 84-83

Yeah, the game is over and Gilas marches on to the semis but not without a scare hehe.

Who would have thought that Iran would take a one point lead with Gilas leading by as much as 20 points in the third quarter.

Luckily for the Gilas, Fajardo and Brownlee made their respective field goals in the dying seconds of the game.

Congrats to those who back the Gilas to win this game.

Philippines fans almost faint when Iran up with 1 point on 4th quarter. Luckily they are been saved by the lay up of Brownlee and advance to semis.

I though they get choked by Iran since imagine how big the lead what Philippines get but suddenly it was erased out by Iran and manage to take a lead. But Iran just got ran out of time since if there's more minutes with that situation where they got the momentum and Philippines always commit turnovers for sure they will be the winner of that sequence.

What a great game we have seen today and lucky for Philippines to advance on semis.

[Sanitough]

Congrats to those who back the Gilas to win this game.

What was the spread if I may ask?

Iran was the slight favorite before the game with a 2-point spread.

Below was the ML odds:

Iran @1.76
Gilas @2.13

The odds are still close; Iran is only a slight favorite, so the respect for Gilas is still high despite their loss to Jordan. If it's Gilas vs. China in the semi-finals, what's the other country playing in the other group?

edit:
I have not bet for Gilas as i have second thoughts on them because they just played yesterday and Iran was well rested.

I just bet on the China vs Korea game which fortunately my bet win also, China -6.5 @1.89, not bad lol.

Congratutations with that win, Korea is a strong team but China manage to beat them, so probably China is the strongest in this tournament.


Wondering what's gonna be the odds for Gilas vs China.

[Japinat]

Wondering what's gonna be the odds for Gilas vs China.

I guess odds are not yet release for this particular game, but since this game is going to be played tomorrow, we can expect this to be release in less than 24 hours from now.

Here is the schedule:

Men’s 5-on-5 basketball
1:30 pm, September 26, Tuesday – Philippines vs Bahrain
11 am, September 28, Thursday – Philippines vs Thailand
5:30 pm, September 30, Saturday – Philippines vs Jordan
4 pm, October 2, Monday – Philippines vs Qatar (qualifications to quarterfinal)
12 pm, October 3, Tuesday – Philippines vs Iran (quarterfinals)
8 pm, October 4, Wednesday – Philippines vs China (semifinals)

https://www.rappler.com/sports/gilas-pilipinas/game-schedule-philippine-team-men-women-3x3-asian-games-2023/

As we can see, tomorrow our team will be playing again. Hopefully, they are still not gassed out, as the games are consecutive since they beat Qatar. Brownlee had carried Gilas against Iran, and I hope he can still play at the same level tomorrow. They'll need to get some rest so they'll be energized tomorrow.

We have to beat this

The Philippines looks to end its 25-year medal drought in the sport, with its last podium finish coming in 1998 when it won bronze in men’s 5-on-5 basketball.

[Sanitough]

So the odds are now available, and I believe this is in all sportsbooks.

Philippines @ 3.85
China @ 1.23

The handicap is +8.5.

This is a big challenge for the Philippines. It looks like a championship game since China was the heavy favorite to win this competition. Also, the crowd is favoring China, so it's like JB now is playing a Ginebra team where the fans will be so involved. I guess I'm just going to sit this one out. I will still be watching the game, but I choose not to bet on this.

[Kasabus]

So the odds are now available, and I believe this is in all sportsbooks.

Philippines @ 3.85
China @ 1.23

The handicap is +8.5.

This is a big challenge for the Philippines. It looks like a championship game since China was the heavy favorite to win this competition. Also, the crowd is favoring China, so it's like JB now is playing a Ginebra team where the fans will be so involved. I guess I'm just going to sit this one out. I will still be watching the game, but I choose not to bet on this.

It's quite risky betting on the Philippines, but not betting at all is not fun. Just my personal opinion, they are in the semi-finals, so I'm sure they'll do everything not to be lax on defense like what they did against Jordan. A win here is going to be their ticket to the Finals, so I believe that even if the Philippines are the heavy underdogs, I trust them to upset the host team. I'm not even thinking of betting on the handicap, straight-up win for me.

[Fredomago]

So the odds are now available, and I believe this is in all sportsbooks.

Philippines @ 3.85
China @ 1.23

The handicap is +8.5.

This is a big challenge for the Philippines. It looks like a championship game since China was the heavy favorite to win this competition. Also, the crowd is favoring China, so it's like JB now is playing a Ginebra team where the fans will be so involved. I guess I'm just going to sit this one out. I will still be watching the game, but I choose not to bet on this.

It's quite risky betting on the Philippines, but not betting at all is not fun. Just my personal opinion, they are in the semi-finals, so I'm sure they'll do everything not to be lax on defense like what they did against Jordan. A win here is going to be their ticket to the Finals, so I believe that even if the Philippines are the heavy underdogs, I trust them to upset the host team. I'm not even thinking of betting on the handicap, straight-up win for me.

I guess if adding some more fun while supporting the National squad might lead us to bet for them, I mean like you most of us who supporting this squad will find a way to place some extra spare either with the handicap or with the ML, it's now or never again for the team, we can't remove the fact that we are heavy underdog here as main host China most of the time win the gold each time Asian games is being played inside their home crowd.

Let see if upset will happen or it will be that same fate way back 21 years ago if my memory serve me right, hopefully we will be able to find ways to make that good stop and continue to ball rotations to spread and create an opening.