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August 05, 2014, 08:41:05 AM
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Every 3dB is a doubling in power. So it is half as loud.

For insurance purposes are these miners CE, FCC, CSA, UL approved? just in case of fire i wouldn't want to have insurance declined

As far as I know, computers do not have to be CSA and UL approved: otherwise you would not be able to add on cards. I think add-on cards are supposed to be FCC approved (don't think that has insurance implications).

However, when studying electronics, we were told that if a non-CSA/UL approved device is plugged in: insurance may be denied. Even it if was not the cause of any fire. The lesson was to unplug your projects when not in use.

Computers get around that by requiring approval for the power supply. The rails are then limited to something like 200VA (less power means less heat -> less risk of fire). I have noticed sometimes cheaper electronics lack UL approval (don't think they are actually supposed to be sold to consumers without it). I suspect that may be why some stuff is labeled "industrial use only".


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August 05, 2014, 08:41:48 AM
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August Group Buy Special Hosting Plan
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Hi Everyone,

In previous emails we have asked you to indicate whether you were interested in having your August Group Buy SP30 delivered to you or whether you wanted to take advantage of the special offer we had for the Titan Data Center.

We have created a special product page for those of you who are interested in the special offer.

Please log into the following page, add your original order number, add the product to your car and go through the checkout process:

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/august_gb_titan_hosting

Due to the deviation from the original specification we have decided to subsidize the difference in power costs from the original planned power consumption.

Costs for the hosting plan will be as follows:
•   1 Month of free hosting
•   5 Months hosting for $310 each
•   $100 Setup fees
•   $150 Bulk shipping cost
The total for the above fees is $1,800 for a period of 6 months.

Note that this is a special offer only for members of the August Group Buy!

If you have would like to take advantage of the offer please do so before August 11.

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So i got this email from SP-TECH, its nice that you have decided to honor the original hosting deal, in my case though I have decided to stick to my original plan and host it myself , i plan to run it at 4TH max to keep the PSU's at 2500WAttsI might get come 240 circuits placed as well next week and since it gets cold here around sept(only one month away) i can use forced air cooling and probably pay alot less in electricity costs going forward.  I figure by spring next year the unit will already be unprofitable to run in any case unless btc prices really shoot up.

of course this being the case I would prefer my unit shipped sooner than later as well: do we have a firm ship date on these units yet ?
 Also how any new details on how I will get compensated for the reduced hash rate ?  I paid by bank wire, but I would be fine with a pay-pal re-reimbursement or something even though I would prefer a coupon for a nice discount on October gear.

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So with my situation of 2500 watts to 3000 watts increase ...cooling issues at home....my elec use is 0.15kwh
so essentially under this August Hosting offer (I'm at the ass end of august) the hosting offer (w/o cooling
costs included no less so the deal is even more impressive to me...) is like $194 usd cheaper then me hosting
at home again without cooling issues/elec use for such either...
(just enough $$$ at $194 usd to ship my miner back more or less at end of 6 month hosting
I'm soooo sentimental)..pretty much a no brainier.....even if I had NO cooling costs ..which I would have for
2 months at least...  

So anyway looks like it is likely I will go with this plan....others on here? comments?...pitfalls?

Of course I have the usual issues much like a parent sending the kid (ie miner) off to boarding school for 6 months (miner)

1) Is it safe? Can he be kidnapped?

2) Will he get there ok?

3) Will he not be too hot nor too cold?

4) Will he get enough energy to get thru each day?

5) Will he suffer neglect?/abuse?/damage?/..get the attention he needs?

6) If sick? what kinda care would he get?

7) Do I have communication and access on a regular basis?

8] costs to get him back home?

Well I don't have a kid but if you replace MINER above for he you get the drift....

(I have problems with strangers touching my 'stuff' ...ewww hosting...(sigh gonna have to bite the bullet and to this anyway I think)

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August 05, 2014, 11:30:42 AM
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For insurance purposes are these miners CE, FCC, CSA, UL approved? just in case of fire i wouldn't want to have insurance declined

In UE, you'll need the CE stamp, and I've seen it on the labels. FCC deals with the radio interference and should not matter in the insurance case.

The IEC 60320 (C-15/C-13) inline connector is CSA rated for 10A-250V / 15A-125V. Then the IEC 60320 C-19 CONNECTOR, is also CSA/UL rated 20A-250V. Cables are good as long as they're #12 or bigger (i.e. #10). The power supplies are CSA/UL compliant, what's after the power supply is low voltage and does not need CSA/UL approvals.

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August 05, 2014, 11:46:50 AM
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 I have noticed sometimes cheaper electronics lack UL approval (don't think they are actually supposed to be sold to consumers without it). I suspect that may be why some stuff is labeled "industrial use only".


All devices powered 48V and below do not need CSA/UL stamp They can be lot inspected by a CSA/UL representative and you'll get a certificate that they comply. however, the inspector's visit may cost up to 2k .. so do it in batches (because the certificate you get will mention the unit serial number) if you own a data-center, and you need this paperwork for insurance.

"Industrial only" is also affected by CSA/UL, maybe even more than home use, since everything should be insured there. Some devices have an "isolated ground" and maybe more characteristics which cannot comply with the residential electrical systems. Always read the manuals and speak with the seller rep when you find such labels, asking them why they're there and what special installation measures you have to comply with.

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August 05, 2014, 01:07:51 PM
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I'm not sure if I understand your hosting offer.

"Costs for the hosting plan will be as follows:

    1 Month of free hosting
    5 Months hosting for $310 each
    $100 Setup fees
    $150 Bulk shipping cost

The total for the above fees is $1,800 for a period of 6 months."

Does it mean that if I want 1 month free hosting I have to pay for the whole package?

If not, if I choose one month free hosting instead of free shipping, what is the shipping cost I would need to pay to have it shipped to UK?
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August 05, 2014, 01:35:26 PM
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Shipping cost is 300$ as far as I can remember.

I would be impressed if you were able to host your miner under 13ct/kw/h in the UK though.

Also keep in mind that you will have to pay VAT if you import into the UK, which you won´t have to when using the hosting deal.
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August 05, 2014, 02:46:31 PM
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When i live "near Israel" they'll ship it 1/2 around the globe. Host it 6 months and will ship it back for "just" 300$?

Then i have (1800+300)/6 = $350/month.
Spondoolies hosting costs $1200/3 = $400/month and then i have a day0 miner (not 2+ days for shipping), after 3 months free shipping (from the Group buy) and a heater in the winter months Cheesy
After the next jump 1 day will be ~$66. IMHO the shipping around the globe cuts in the ROI more then Spondoolies own hosting. But everybody should do his own math Smiley
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August 05, 2014, 02:50:26 PM
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The hosting isn´t limited to 6 months, the minimum contract length is 6 months though.

It will probably also be easier to find cheap bitcoin hosting deals within the US than anywhere else in the world.
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August 05, 2014, 02:54:31 PM
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When i live "near Israel" they'll ship it 1/2 around the globe. Host it 6 months and will ship it back for "just" 300$?

Then i have (1800+300)/6 = $350/month.
Spondoolies hosting costs $1200/3 = $400/month and then i have a day0 miner (not 2+ days for shipping), after 3 months free shipping (from the Group buy) and a heater in the winter months Cheesy
After the next jump 1 day will be ~$66. IMHO the shipping around the globe cuts in the ROI more then Spondoolies own hosting. But everybody should do his own math Smiley
Thinking the same thing but I think they want the hosting payment up front, with the already reduced hash rate
And the possibility of not even making roi, why would I dump another $1800 into the same project.  Might as well run it myself on 20v, like people say Winter is coming'

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When i live "near Israel" they'll ship it 1/2 around the globe. Host it 6 months and will ship it back for "just" 300$?

Then i have (1800+300)/6 = $350/month.
Spondoolies hosting costs $1200/3 = $400/month and then i have a day0 miner (not 2+ days for shipping), after 3 months free shipping (from the Group buy) and a heater in the winter months Cheesy
After the next jump 1 day will be ~$66. IMHO the shipping around the globe cuts in the ROI more then Spondoolies own hosting. But everybody should do his own math Smiley
Thinking the same thing but I think they want the hosting payment up front, with the already reduced hash rate
And the possibility of not even making roi, why would I dump another $1800 into the same project.  Might as well run it myself on 20v, like people say Winter is coming'

Or host it with Advania. Slighty bigger prices, but monthly payments.

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Every 3dB is a doubling in power. So it is half as loud.

For insurance purposes are these miners CE, FCC, CSA, UL approved? just in case of fire i wouldn't want to have insurance declined

Thats music to my ears thanks lol


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When i live "near Israel" they'll ship it 1/2 around the globe. Host it 6 months and will ship it back for "just" 300$?

Then i have (1800+300)/6 = $350/month.
Spondoolies hosting costs $1200/3 = $400/month and then i have a day0 miner (not 2+ days for shipping), after 3 months free shipping (from the Group buy) and a heater in the winter months Cheesy
After the next jump 1 day will be ~$66. IMHO the shipping around the globe cuts in the ROI more then Spondoolies own hosting. But everybody should do his own math Smiley
Thinking the same thing but I think they want the hosting payment up front, with the already reduced hash rate
And the possibility of not even making roi, why would I dump another $1800 into the same project.  Might as well run it myself on 20v, like people say Winter is coming'

Or host it with Advania. Slighty bigger prices, but monthly payments.

I'm in the process of sourcing a local hoster , it cant cost more than what Advania charges here in MN

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August 05, 2014, 04:37:03 PM
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Collider, jtoomim, Roadsress or anyone with the early machines:

Please post your statistics and whether you achieved sustained ~4.5TH at 208-220V (please post your voltage) and what was the speed at 110/120V if applicable (I assume 4.1Th). Thanks.
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August 05, 2014, 06:21:18 PM
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Can someone (or ST) please tell me the best voltage settings for the SP10 on 208v.  Should I just set it to Turbo? Or should I set it some other way? thanks in advance...

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Can someone (or ST) please tell me the best voltage settings for the SP10 on 208v.  Should I just set it to Turbo? Or should I set it some other way? thanks in advance...
Is it a May batch unit?
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Can someone (or ST) please tell me the best voltage settings for the SP10 on 208v.  Should I just set it to Turbo? Or should I set it some other way? thanks in advance...
Is it a May batch unit?

Yes. I actually have some hosted with Spondoolies, but from what I am told we cannot access them to check the settings. I email spondoolies to ask my voltage settings, but they don't respond to me. These are for units I just started hosted with someone else. MichColo actually. I'm getting 1.36 in Turbo mode. 


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August 05, 2014, 06:51:13 PM
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Can someone (or ST) please tell me the best voltage settings for the SP10 on 208v.  Should I just set it to Turbo? Or should I set it some other way? thanks in advance...
Just set it to turbo and let it autotune.
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August 05, 2014, 07:04:03 PM
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http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14194753-1-49-on-early-may-batch-unit

Use this guide. You can also choose to set fans at 90% as it will increase hashrate at higher ambient temperatures.
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August 05, 2014, 07:09:16 PM
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One other thing, one of the miners got damaged. The power supply handle got bend. Had to order a new fan for the power supply, I hope this is the same one...

http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=9GV3612P3J03virtualkey57900000virtualkey978-9GV3612P3J03


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http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog/14194753-1-49-on-early-may-batch-unit

Use this guide. You can also choose to set fans at 90% as it will increase hashrate at higher ambient temperatures.
I've got a May batch and none of the tweaks seem to do much for me. I do reboot every day or two though, I find that the hashrate drops if I don't.
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