[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[tvasbn]

http://blockchainstuff.eu/video-of-the-recent-mining-discussion-panel-tnabc-bitmain-valeryvavilov-vcorem-matthewroszak-lukedashjr-courtesy-of-bitcoinist/

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[bgibso01]

..........Most folks will have an electricity rate higher than $0.10/kWh so their net monthly profits will be lower, their recovery time will be longer, and the "sweet spot" will be an even more aggressive underclock.

I see that DiCE1904 has provided a handy table of SP20 values.

Your example is great and almost how I calculate also.  EXCEPT, you are using different wattage amounts when I use the same wattage and just extrapolate the hashing and asset cost difference.  When calculating based on lower total watts used, I can definitely see the underclocking stance.  I make the assumption that miners would want to use as much of their circuit for hashing as possible.  So if I have 4,000 watts, what does the asset cost difference between under/over clocking and recoup from the additional hashrate.

Although it's all just mental masturbation as it's doubtful right now these will ever ROI in btc terms.  Fun hobby that keeps me off the streets

[windpath]

http://blockchainstuff.eu/video-of-the-recent-mining-discussion-panel-tnabc-bitmain-valeryvavilov-vcorem-matthewroszak-lukedashjr-courtesy-of-bitcoinist/

Thx for sharing, nice work Guy

[bobsag3]

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gathered firmware suggestions in a list and edit that list and extend

current firmware: 2.6.7 TEST

- adding start fan speed for auto-mode
- tail option for showing last x rows of log files.
- using help screen for sort of change log in the firmware
- may be watchdog checking network state. had hung system after network outage, not reachable due to DHCP. can be probably worked around by fixed IP.
- scheduling certains mining speeds(voltages)  <- will try to implement
- individual voltage limits as right now for the back chips <- will consider / note: can be done quite well with max. PSU watts at least per loop
- Timezone "bug"? first page graphs are always UTC? <- will consider
- enable API in own subnet/net by web interface <-  common! change /etc/cgminer.conf.template with ssh it seems to works not straight forward at least not for all
- include fan speed in API datasets <- not likely, use remote ssh to change /etc/mg_custom_rate fan speed OUTPUT is obviosly meant
- other pool options than failover only <- common! change /etc/cgminer.conf.template with ssh
- Graphs on the first webguy page, there should be a button to disable some/all of them. <- you can reset them with a button. Disable them in /etc/cron.d with ssh
- Poll page could be managed on the front page with up&down buttons on each pool
- GUI switches to turn off SSH would also be a good thing, plus for advanced users some sort of iptables in the OS for security. <- Use big random password  from UI to disable it. Will consider adding iptables.
- true fan speed control by target temp
- change host name in web interface
- sum of PSU(unknown) input watts in addition to DC2DC watts, either on ASIC Stats page or main page, as for estimate of power at wall or PSU efficiency <- will implement in 2.6.7. For sp20 I assume 90% efficiency
- show ASIC Stats

Going to comment on this again - Im tired of changing the API setting via SSH, and on the hundreds of machines ive done, no reason not to have it in the GUI.

[padrino]

push

gathered firmware suggestions in a list and edit that list and extend

current firmware: 2.6.7 TEST

- adding start fan speed for auto-mode
- tail option for showing last x rows of log files.
- using help screen for sort of change log in the firmware
- may be watchdog checking network state. had hung system after network outage, not reachable due to DHCP. can be probably worked around by fixed IP.
- scheduling certains mining speeds(voltages)  <- will try to implement
- individual voltage limits as right now for the back chips <- will consider / note: can be done quite well with max. PSU watts at least per loop
- Timezone "bug"? first page graphs are always UTC? <- will consider
- enable API in own subnet/net by web interface <-  common! change /etc/cgminer.conf.template with ssh it seems to works not straight forward at least not for all
- include fan speed in API datasets <- not likely, use remote ssh to change /etc/mg_custom_rate fan speed OUTPUT is obviosly meant
- other pool options than failover only <- common! change /etc/cgminer.conf.template with ssh
- Graphs on the first webguy page, there should be a button to disable some/all of them. <- you can reset them with a button. Disable them in /etc/cron.d with ssh
- Poll page could be managed on the front page with up&down buttons on each pool
- GUI switches to turn off SSH would also be a good thing, plus for advanced users some sort of iptables in the OS for security. <- Use big random password  from UI to disable it. Will consider adding iptables.
- true fan speed control by target temp
- change host name in web interface
- sum of PSU(unknown) input watts in addition to DC2DC watts, either on ASIC Stats page or main page, as for estimate of power at wall or PSU efficiency <- will implement in 2.6.7. For sp20 I assume 90% efficiency
- show ASIC Stats

Going to comment on this again - Im tired of changing the API setting via SSH, and on the hundreds of machines ive done, no reason not to have it in the GUI.

Fair point, I did want to give you a heads up in case it will help.. I took to building a job manager that automatically scans my network for hosts and plumbs them into my management webapp, can make changes to hundreds of machines in a minute or two..

[bobsag3]

push

gathered firmware suggestions in a list and edit that list and extend

current firmware: 2.6.7 TEST

- adding start fan speed for auto-mode
- tail option for showing last x rows of log files.
- using help screen for sort of change log in the firmware
- may be watchdog checking network state. had hung system after network outage, not reachable due to DHCP. can be probably worked around by fixed IP.
- scheduling certains mining speeds(voltages)  <- will try to implement
- individual voltage limits as right now for the back chips <- will consider / note: can be done quite well with max. PSU watts at least per loop
- Timezone "bug"? first page graphs are always UTC? <- will consider
- enable API in own subnet/net by web interface <-  common! change /etc/cgminer.conf.template with ssh it seems to works not straight forward at least not for all
- include fan speed in API datasets <- not likely, use remote ssh to change /etc/mg_custom_rate fan speed OUTPUT is obviosly meant
- other pool options than failover only <- common! change /etc/cgminer.conf.template with ssh
- Graphs on the first webguy page, there should be a button to disable some/all of them. <- you can reset them with a button. Disable them in /etc/cron.d with ssh
- Poll page could be managed on the front page with up&down buttons on each pool
- GUI switches to turn off SSH would also be a good thing, plus for advanced users some sort of iptables in the OS for security. <- Use big random password  from UI to disable it. Will consider adding iptables.
- true fan speed control by target temp
- change host name in web interface
- sum of PSU(unknown) input watts in addition to DC2DC watts, either on ASIC Stats page or main page, as for estimate of power at wall or PSU efficiency <- will implement in 2.6.7. For sp20 I assume 90% efficiency
- show ASIC Stats

Going to comment on this again - Im tired of changing the API setting via SSH, and on the hundreds of machines ive done, no reason not to have it in the GUI.

Fair point, I did want to give you a heads up in case it will help.. I took to building a job manager that automatically scans my network for hosts and plumbs them into my management webapp, can make changes to hundreds of machines in a minute or two..

We have something like that as well- but for lots of customers that want to use something like CryptoGlance, and only has 2-3 machines being able to change it from the GUI would be nice

[Swimmer63]

Is there any software I can use to monitor all my 6x SP20's which are remote?  Other than going into them individually via ssh?

[bgibso01]

On a related note, anyone have an idea as to why 2 of my SP20s show up on myminer.io, but the other 4 don't?

[bgibso01]

-----BOARD-3-----
PSU[UNKNOWN]: 0->(205w/205w)[205 205 205] (->205w[205 205 205]) (lim=150) 0c 345GH cooling:0/0x0

Why do you suppose my board 3 exceeds the limit I have set of 150 in the settings tab? I would think it should have limited it like the other boards (<146).

[Biodom]

http://blockchainstuff.eu/video-of-the-recent-mining-discussion-panel-tnabc-bitmain-valeryvavilov-vcorem-matthewroszak-lukedashjr-courtesy-of-bitcoinist/

Thx for sharing, nice work Guy

Actually, with all due respect, i think that Guy has a puzzling perspective as seen at the very end. He thinks (as many others as well) that small dumping by miners somehow creates a vicious downward cycle. However, right now this is just 3600 coins a day or 100K coins a month (measly $20 mil $$ in a month which is nothing in comparison with world debt and money issuance) while we already have almost 14 mil coins. If there will be more interest in acquiring these coins from the general public, miners selling pressure would be overwhelmed. When the balance will occur, i don't know, but it is certainly not permanent.

[philipma1957]

http://blockchainstuff.eu/video-of-the-recent-mining-discussion-panel-tnabc-bitmain-valeryvavilov-vcorem-matthewroszak-lukedashjr-courtesy-of-bitcoinist/

Thx for sharing, nice work Guy

Actually, with all due respect, i think that Guy has a puzzling perspective as seen at the very end. He thinks (as many others as well) that small dumping by miners somehow creates a vicious downward cycle. However, right now this is just 3600 coins a day or 100K coins a month (measly $20 mil $$ in a month which is nothing in comparison with world debt and money issuance) while we already have almost 14 mil coins. If there will be more interest in acquiring these coins from the general public, miners selling pressure would be overwhelmed. When the balance will occur, i don't know, but it is certainly not permanent.

Coins are not trading at high volume.
That small volume controls the price of coins.
If 100 million  a month  was spent buying  coins for 3 months  it would drive the market up a lot.

[Biodom]

http://blockchainstuff.eu/video-of-the-recent-mining-discussion-panel-tnabc-bitmain-valeryvavilov-vcorem-matthewroszak-lukedashjr-courtesy-of-bitcoinist/

Thx for sharing, nice work Guy

Actually, with all due respect, i think that Guy has a puzzling perspective as seen at the very end. He thinks (as many others as well) that small dumping by miners somehow creates a vicious downward cycle. However, right now this is just 3600 coins a day or 100K coins a month (measly $20 mil $$ in a month which is nothing in comparison with world debt and money issuance) while we already have almost 14 mil coins. If there will be more interest in acquiring these coins from the general public, miners selling pressure would be overwhelmed. When the balance will occur, i don't know, but it is certainly not permanent.

Coins are not trading at high volume.
That small volume controls the price of coins.
If 100 million  a month  was spent buying  coins for 3 months  it would drive the market up a lot.

that's my point exactly: selling from miners is miniscule (even at 100% it is just $20 mil/month, so it it has to be lower than even that number). To me it indicates zero interest from wall street in bitcoin as an asset, nothing more, but this could change.

[jimmothy]

that's my point exactly: selling from miners is miniscule (even at 100% it is just $20 mil/month, so it it has to be lower than even that number). To me it indicates zero interest from wall street in bitcoin as an asset, nothing more, but this could change.

Dumping almost 1% of the total btc in existence per month is not "miniscule" in my book.

[Guy Corem]

I've missed Bitcointalk

Zvisha implemented the scheduler, please give it a try: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog

Also, we're doing soft launch of our cloud mining offerings. It's partnership with Genesis Mining.
We're brining small amount of hash power online in our Israeli DC. Upon selling of contracts, we'll ship mining gear to cover the contracts to Genesis Mining DC in Iceland.

Guy

[Searing]

I've missed Bitcointalk

Zvisha implemented the scheduler, please give it a try: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog

Also, we're doing soft launch of our cloud mining offerings. It's partnership with Genesis Mining.
We're brining small amount of hash power online in our Israeli DC. Upon selling of contracts, we'll ship mining gear to cover the contracts to Genesis Mining DC in Iceland.

Guy

so are you like the rest of the industry...getting completely out of the 'consumer' end of the mining equip side (ie no token type sp20 units anymore or equiv in the future
for those dense of us who would like to at least 'try' to home mine in the future..yeah yeah...I know still dream about 500 usd btc where this may be possible) or has
that dream left the barn .....like all the other asic manufacturer's seem to have stated as well?

[Guy Corem]

I've missed Bitcointalk

Zvisha implemented the scheduler, please give it a try: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog

Also, we're doing soft launch of our cloud mining offerings. It's partnership with Genesis Mining.
We're brining small amount of hash power online in our Israeli DC. Upon selling of contracts, we'll ship mining gear to cover the contracts to Genesis Mining DC in Iceland.

Guy

so are you like the rest of the industry...getting completely out of the 'consumer' end of the mining equip side (ie no token type sp20 units anymore or equiv in the future
for those dense of us who would like to at least 'try' to home mine in the future..yeah yeah...I know still dream about 500 usd btc where this may be possible) or has
that dream left the barn .....like all the other asic manufacturer's seem to have stated as well?

We still expect most of our revenues to come from hardware sales. We got a lot of requests for cloud mining offerings, and we believe we're doing it the right way by partnering with Genesis Mining.

[Bicknellski]

I've missed Bitcointalk

Zvisha implemented the scheduler, please give it a try: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog

Also, we're doing soft launch of our cloud mining offerings. It's partnership with Genesis Mining.
We're brining small amount of hash power online in our Israeli DC. Upon selling of contracts, we'll ship mining gear to cover the contracts to Genesis Mining DC in Iceland.

Guy

so are you like the rest of the industry...getting completely out of the 'consumer' end of the mining equip side (ie no token type sp20 units anymore or equiv in the future
for those dense of us who would like to at least 'try' to home mine in the future..yeah yeah...I know still dream about 500 usd btc where this may be possible) or has
that dream left the barn .....like all the other asic manufacturer's seem to have stated as well?

We still expect most of our revenues to come from hardware sales. We got a lot of requests for cloud mining offerings, and we believe we're doing it the right way by partnering with Genesis Mining.

Yes Marco is good people they do have a lot of experience and mining power already on the network. They are very professional unlike other offering in the "cloud".

[Guy Corem]

I've missed Bitcointalk

Zvisha implemented the scheduler, please give it a try: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog

Also, we're doing soft launch of our cloud mining offerings. It's partnership with Genesis Mining.
We're brining small amount of hash power online in our Israeli DC. Upon selling of contracts, we'll ship mining gear to cover the contracts to Genesis Mining DC in Iceland.

Guy

so are you like the rest of the industry...getting completely out of the 'consumer' end of the mining equip side (ie no token type sp20 units anymore or equiv in the future
for those dense of us who would like to at least 'try' to home mine in the future..yeah yeah...I know still dream about 500 usd btc where this may be possible) or has
that dream left the barn .....like all the other asic manufacturer's seem to have stated as well?

We still expect most of our revenues to come from hardware sales. We got a lot of requests for cloud mining offerings, and we believe we're doing it the right way by partnering with Genesis Mining.

Yes Marco is good people they do have a lot of experience and mining power already on the network. They are very professional unlike other offering in the "cloud".

Genesis Mining is the most trustable cloud mining provider and I'm proud about this partnership. I know Genesis Mining management personally and I consider them friends.

[Searing]

I've missed Bitcointalk

Zvisha implemented the scheduler, please give it a try: http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/blogs/technical-blog

Also, we're doing soft launch of our cloud mining offerings. It's partnership with Genesis Mining.
We're brining small amount of hash power online in our Israeli DC. Upon selling of contracts, we'll ship mining gear to cover the contracts to Genesis Mining DC in Iceland.

Guy

so are you like the rest of the industry...getting completely out of the 'consumer' end of the mining equip side (ie no token type sp20 units anymore or equiv in the future
for those dense of us who would like to at least 'try' to home mine in the future..yeah yeah...I know still dream about 500 usd btc where this may be possible) or has
that dream left the barn .....like all the other asic manufacturer's seem to have stated as well?

We still expect most of our revenues to come from hardware sales. We got a lot of requests for cloud mining offerings, and we believe we're doing it the right way by partnering with Genesis Mining.

well imho you will definitely have a 'niche' everyone seems to be going 'completely' commercial or cloud mining etc...one of the other
 (like KNC) and with that in mind...you likely will be even better off
then the sp20 in sales imho simply because of the rareness of making a small miner in the future....so yeah make the big machines but I think a lot of us would appreciate it if you managed to at least 'chip a piece' off the bigger units and toss them in a box like the sp20 ..for at least an  'attempt' to 'eventually' pick up something like that..I have hope for the future BTC price where this is possible at $220  a BTC and 15ckwh elec costs.... in my neck of the woods..er not so much possible now....but then again some hope is better then no hope don't ya know...er equip wise owned vs cloud as an option  for this arguments sake....at 500 usd a BTC this could do really well if the price came back at that..but again at least you all
seem 'open' to such an option ..unlike others in the industry

again appreciate you addressing this as an option ..you may not have any idea either but at least you answer our questions on here promptly (as lame as they may be in my case)

it is a ray on sunshine in the 'cloudy' dark asic mnfg business as it exists today imho

again thanks for your updates on this forum we all appreciate it (esp genesis mining ...er never heard of it before your post) trust your opinion will also take that into consideration

[Guy Corem]

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again thanks for your updates on this forum we all appreciate it (esp genesis mining ...er never heard of it before your post) trust your opinion will also take that into consideration

Genesis Mining started with Alts and GPUs in the beginning of 2014.
They quickly grew their business. It's 100% backed by real hardware.
They had quite a lot of coverage in the media.
Example: https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/genesis-mining-explaining-largest-scrypt-cloudmining-provider/
You can see a picture of Marco Streng the CEO in their Icelandic DC here: http://asicscrypt.com/marco-streng-ceo-genesis-mining-talks-project-x-cloud-mining/

Guy