[ANN] Spondoolies-Tech - carrier grade, data center ready mining rigs

[Prelude]

Seeing the level of communication provided by SP in this thread makes me want to order some hardware.  What are the lead times for orders placed this week or next?

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[Guy Corem]

Seeing the level of communication provided by SP in this thread makes me want to order some hardware.  What are the lead times for orders placed this week or next?

SP20 - less than a week
SP35 - one month

[Prelude]

Thank you. Going to give it some thought, BTC's low price being the only thing that makes me hesitate. That SP35 would be nice.

[Searing]

Thank you. Going to give it some thought, BTC's low price being the only thing that makes me hesitate. That SP35 would be nice.

yeah i agree these guys have been good to me (gave me a refund even thou technically
 they did not need to do so at least legally)


feel I owe them a product ...just at 15c/kwh and hosting fees can't get the numbers to work at these btc prices (or the prev units not really good for my home use)

well maybe the next lot then ... another.generation or some such I can figure out at least how to kinda float a miner from them.....the NO pre-order plan is helpful

on me jumping the shark on this....pretty much no more pre-orders of asic equip for me (no refund no roi Titan)

Searing

[klondike_bar]

Thank you. Going to give it some thought, BTC's low price being the only thing that makes me hesitate. That SP35 would be nice.

yeah i agree these guys have been good to me (gave me a refund even thou technically
 they did not need to do so at least legally)


feel I owe them a product ...just at 15c/kwh and hosting fees can't get the numbers to work at these btc prices (or the prev units not really good for my home use)

well maybe the next lot then ... another.generation or some such I can figure out at least how to kinda float a miner from them.....the NO pre-order plan is helpful

on me jumping the shark on this....pretty much no more pre-orders of asic equip for me (no refund no roi Titan)

Searing

15c/kwh alone virtually prices you out of the mining game - hosting fees atop that must hurt. I pay $0.15/kwh but have free hosting in the back of a small business, and I still can't justify most current hardware.

@SP - will there be a price break in the SP20 soon? at $700/TH at 0.7w/GH its almost twice as expensive as antminer S3 units. I understand its much smaller and the software platform is much better, but that really prices it out of the market for most home users.

[RoadStress]

SP31 sent yesterday, SP31 received today by Advania! Thank you!

[Guy Corem]

You mean about the fact that 3 days prior to their shipping deadline they had no clue if they could ship or not? ...

We're working through the weekend to meet the October shipping deadline.
The reasons for the last minute shipping are numerous and has also very much to do with unauthorized strikes in Israel sea ports, see for example here.
It happens also in previous months, we had to ask the carrier to change route, deliver to cypress and fly the parts into Israel.
We're going through hoops to make sure the entire material needed for production arrives on time. It's an enormous, challenging task.
Right now we're producing the SP20 and we'll ship them after the proper burn-in tests in Flextronics. It might be slipped to the beginning of next week. If this will be the case, we'll compensate.

Guy

The production of the SP20 is slipping into the beginning of the next week. We are working hard to make sure all units are shipped by Monday.
We will offer a BTC compensation for lost mining time.

[bobsag3]

Received my first SP31s as well today. Shit that was fast.

[Koontas]

24 hours left...will the SP20 tracking number be received?  I'd bet NO.

We are still working hard to ship out all the SP20s by tomorrow and will continue to update you.

You are one angry miner...

You mean about the fact that 3 days prior to their shipping deadline they had no clue if they could ship or not?  And 24 hours before there is no additional news? I may be angry, but it's better than being a pushover who just accepts these poor business practices.

think it was reference to the fact that spondoolies just promised that they will likely ship out all the SP20 orders by the end of the month - 1 hour before you said you dont beleive them

Time will tell, eh?

When you're right, you're right.  Looks like Spondoolies isn't shipping by the end of the month.  I'm shocked.   

[Dans]

My SP31 is out for delivery, and it just shipped 1.5 days ago, that's pretty fast!

I have ordered every Spondoolies-Tech Product that they has shipped so far, and every order has arrived within the time frame promised.    Customer service has been excellent!

I will continue to be a customer on future products, their pre-sales and post-sales customer service and honesty cannot be touched, and their products are rock solid.

Thanks Spondoolies-Tech team, keep up the great work!   Looking forward to hearing more about the next-gen!!

[Searing]

My SP31 is out for delivery, and it just shipped 1.5 days ago, that's pretty fast!

I have ordered every Spondoolies-Tech Product that they has shipped so far, and every order has arrived within the time frame promised.    Customer service has been excellent!

I will continue to be a customer on future products, their pre-sales and post-sales customer service and honesty cannot be touched, and their products are rock solid.

Thanks Spondoolies-Tech team, keep up the great work!   Looking forward to hearing more about the next-gen!!

when did you order?

[zvisha]

If your miner experiences instability with Murata PSU not related to any specific loop or ASIC (looks like periodic hash-rate dropping to ~3Th with some timeout notifications): please try updating to 2.5.4. it knows how to handle the PSU behaviour better. It should help you. If this fix helps you/doesn't help you - let me know.

Regards`

[preshpresh]

so the sp20 is now officially delayed.

unforeseeable until today??

[Bicknellski]

You mean about the fact that 3 days prior to their shipping deadline they had no clue if they could ship or not? ...

We're working through the weekend to meet the October shipping deadline.
The reasons for the last minute shipping are numerous and has also very much to do with unauthorized strikes in Israel sea ports, see for example here.
It happens also in previous months, we had to ask the carrier to change route, deliver to cypress and fly the parts into Israel.
We're going through hoops to make sure the entire material needed for production arrives on time. It's an enormous, challenging task.
Right now we're producing the SP20 and we'll ship them after the proper burn-in tests in Flextronics. It might be slipped to the beginning of next week. If this will be the case, we'll compensate.

Guy

The production of the SP20 is slipping into the beginning of the next week. We are working hard to make sure all units are shipped by Monday.
We will offer a BTC compensation for lost mining time.

Compensation and ship all SP20s by Monday.

First real slip in timeline we've seen. But with compensation I suspect customers will be happy at least in that regard. How long for compensation?

[Guy Corem]

You mean about the fact that 3 days prior to their shipping deadline they had no clue if they could ship or not? ...

We're working through the weekend to meet the October shipping deadline.
The reasons for the last minute shipping are numerous and has also very much to do with unauthorized strikes in Israel sea ports, see for example here.
It happens also in previous months, we had to ask the carrier to change route, deliver to cypress and fly the parts into Israel.
We're going through hoops to make sure the entire material needed for production arrives on time. It's an enormous, challenging task.
Right now we're producing the SP20 and we'll ship them after the proper burn-in tests in Flextronics. It might be slipped to the beginning of next week. If this will be the case, we'll compensate.

Guy

The production of the SP20 is slipping into the beginning of the next week. We are working hard to make sure all units are shipped by Monday.
We will offer a BTC compensation for lost mining time.

Compensation and ship all SP20s by Monday.

First real slip in timeline we've seen. But with compensation I suspect customers will be happy at least in that regard. How long for compensation?

During November. We'll contact SP20 customers and ask for wallets addresses.

[Tupsu]

I ordered the SP20 (Order Date 09/09/2014) from 1,047.28 Euro and I'm still not paying for the order.

Can I pay from this order today and how much should be amount in euro? 

 Yesterday SP20 cost was 1,070.62 Euro with shipping.

[wh00per]

Zvi,

What can I do/check to have this LOOP 9 communicate with the rest of the rig? It usually comes back after a number of reboots/restarts and then fails again when the mining process is restarted for whatever reasons might be (pool communications .. etc). Eventually .. it brings the whole bottom board down, the miner then hashing at about 2.2Gh/s.

I lowered the power limits below those set by the miner itself, with about 30W per power supply. I also limited the voltage from 660 to 708 to avoid ASIC overheating (i.e. above 115 degC). The firmware is 2.4.23.

Code:

Uptime:119 | FPGA ver:32
-----BOARD-0-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1440->1280w[1276 1280 1276] (->1327w[1327 1327 1327]) (lim=1305) 0c cooling:0/0x0
-----BOARD-1-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1200->1060w[1056 1060 1060] (->1099w[1099 1099 1099]) (lim=1270) 0c cooling:0/0x0
LOOP[0] ON
 0: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 64W  93A  50c] ASIC:[ 85c  730hz(BL: 730)  249 (E:193) F:0]
 1: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 67W  96A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  745hz(BL: 745)  226 (E:191) F:0]
 2: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  45c] ASIC:[ 85c  780hz(BL: 780)  210 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[1] ON
 3: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 65W  94A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  740hz(BL: 740)  212 (E:192) F:0]
 4: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  63c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  201 (E:193) F:0]
 5: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 62W  88A  55c] ASIC:[ 85c  710hz(BL: 710)  166 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[2] ON
 6: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  98A  66c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  245 (E:193) F:0]
 7: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 106A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  820hz(BL: 820)  222 (E:193) F:0]
 8: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  53c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  256 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[3] ON
 9: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 102A  64c] ASIC:[105c  775hz(BL: 775)  246 (E:193) F:0]
10: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 78W 112A  75c] ASIC:[105c  855hz(BL: 855)  234 (E:193) F:0]
11: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  98A  67c] ASIC:[ 85c  770hz(BL: 770)  221 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[4] ON
12: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 106A  80c] ASIC:[105c  835hz(BL: 835)  220 (E:193) F:0]
13: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  74c] ASIC:[110c  785hz(BL: 785)  221 (E:193) F:0]
14: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  60c] ASIC:[105c  815hz(BL: 815)  238 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[5] ON
15: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 68W  97A  53c] ASIC:[ 85c  765hz(BL: 765)  197 (E:193) F:0]
16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 102A  56c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  207 (E:191) F:0]
17: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 101A  48c] ASIC:[ 85c  790hz(BL: 790)  209 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[6] ON
18: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 73W 103A  58c] ASIC:[ 85c  805hz(BL: 805)  205 (E:193) F:0]
19: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 73W 104A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  815hz(BL: 815)  210 (E:193) F:0]
20: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 101A  65c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  244 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[7] ON
21: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 76W 108A  78c] ASIC:[ 85c  835hz(BL: 835)  213 (E:193) F:0]
22: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 102A  76c] ASIC:[ 85c  810hz(BL: 810)  239 (E:193) F:0]
23: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 70W 100A  58c] ASIC:[ 85c  775hz(BL: 775)  204 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[8] ON
24: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 105A  68c] ASIC:[105c  815hz(BL: 815)  226 (E:193) F:0]
25: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  79c] ASIC:[100c  815hz(BL: 815)  251 (E:193) F:0]
26: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:675 vlt2:682(DCl:682 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 106A  76c] ASIC:[100c  820hz(BL: 820)  250 (E:190) F:0]
LOOP[9] ON
27: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
28: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
29: disabled (i2c good, no OC)

[H:HW:4122Gh,W:1918,L:0,A:27,MMtmp:0 TMP:(19)=>=>=>(66,48)]
Pushed 27 jobs , in HW queue 4 jobs (sw:1, hw:1)!
min:28 wins:6022[this/last min:106/265] bist-fail:461, hw-err:50
leading-zeroes:40 idle promils[s/m]:0/0, rate:4631gh/s asic-count:24
Fan:80, conseq:200
AC2DC BAD: 0 0
R/NR: 1588/0
RTF asics: 0
 5 restarted      0 reset          0 reset2         3 fake_wins
 0 stuck_bist     0 low_power      0 stuck_pll      0 runtime_dsble
 0 purge_queue    0 read_timeouts  0 dc2dc_oc       2 read_tmout2    5 read_crptn
 0 purge_queue3   31 bad_idle
Adapter queues: rsp=3, req=19

[zvisha]

Zvi,

What can I do/check to have this LOOP 9 communicate with the rest of the rig? It usually comes back after a number of reboots/restarts and then fails again when the mining process is restarted for whatever reasons might be (pool communications .. etc). Eventually .. it brings the whole bottom board down, the miner then hashing at about 2.2Gh/s.

I lowered the power limits below those set by the miner itself, with about 30W per power supply. I also limited the voltage from 660 to 708 to avoid ASIC overheating (i.e. above 115 degC). The firmware is 2.4.23.

Code:

Uptime:119 | FPGA ver:32
-----BOARD-0-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1440->1280w[1276 1280 1276] (->1327w[1327 1327 1327]) (lim=1305) 0c cooling:0/0x0
-----BOARD-1-----
PSU[EMERSON1200]: 1200->1060w[1056 1060 1060] (->1099w[1099 1099 1099]) (lim=1270) 0c cooling:0/0x0
LOOP[0] ON
 0: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 64W  93A  50c] ASIC:[ 85c  730hz(BL: 730)  249 (E:193) F:0]
 1: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 67W  96A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  745hz(BL: 745)  226 (E:191) F:0]
 2: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  45c] ASIC:[ 85c  780hz(BL: 780)  210 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[1] ON
 3: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 65W  94A  51c] ASIC:[ 85c  740hz(BL: 740)  212 (E:192) F:0]
 4: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:693 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  63c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  201 (E:193) F:0]
 5: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:698(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 62W  88A  55c] ASIC:[ 85c  710hz(BL: 710)  166 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[2] ON
 6: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  98A  66c] ASIC:[ 85c  785hz(BL: 785)  245 (E:193) F:0]
 7: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 106A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  820hz(BL: 820)  222 (E:193) F:0]
 8: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  53c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  256 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[3] ON
 9: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 102A  64c] ASIC:[105c  775hz(BL: 775)  246 (E:193) F:0]
10: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 78W 112A  75c] ASIC:[105c  855hz(BL: 855)  234 (E:193) F:0]
11: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:695 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  98A  67c] ASIC:[ 85c  770hz(BL: 770)  221 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[4] ON
12: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 106A  80c] ASIC:[105c  835hz(BL: 835)  220 (E:193) F:0]
13: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 69W  99A  74c] ASIC:[110c  785hz(BL: 785)  221 (E:193) F:0]
14: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:701(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  60c] ASIC:[105c  815hz(BL: 815)  238 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[5] ON
15: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 68W  97A  53c] ASIC:[ 85c  765hz(BL: 765)  197 (E:193) F:0]
16: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 102A  56c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  207 (E:191) F:0]
17: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 101A  48c] ASIC:[ 85c  790hz(BL: 790)  209 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[6] ON
18: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 73W 103A  58c] ASIC:[ 85c  805hz(BL: 805)  205 (E:193) F:0]
19: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:697 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 73W 104A  69c] ASIC:[ 85c  815hz(BL: 815)  210 (E:193) F:0]
20: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 101A  65c] ASIC:[ 85c  795hz(BL: 795)  244 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[7] ON
21: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 76W 108A  78c] ASIC:[ 85c  835hz(BL: 835)  213 (E:193) F:0]
22: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 71W 102A  76c] ASIC:[ 85c  810hz(BL: 810)  239 (E:193) F:0]
23: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:701 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 70W 100A  58c] ASIC:[ 85c  775hz(BL: 775)  204 (E:193) F:0]
LOOP[8] ON
24: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 74W 105A  68c] ASIC:[105c  815hz(BL: 815)  226 (E:193) F:0]
25: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:699 vlt2:703(DCl:794 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 103A  79c] ASIC:[100c  815hz(BL: 815)  251 (E:193) F:0]
26: DC2DC/1/:[vlt1:675 vlt2:682(DCl:682 Tl:794 Ul:706) 72W 106A  76c] ASIC:[100c  820hz(BL: 820)  250 (E:190) F:0]
LOOP[9] ON
27: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
28: disabled (i2c good, no OC)
29: disabled (i2c good, no OC)

[H:HW:4122Gh,W:1918,L:0,A:27,MMtmp:0 TMP:(19)=>=>=>(66,48)]
Pushed 27 jobs , in HW queue 4 jobs (sw:1, hw:1)!
min:28 wins:6022[this/last min:106/265] bist-fail:461, hw-err:50
leading-zeroes:40 idle promils[s/m]:0/0, rate:4631gh/s asic-count:24
Fan:80, conseq:200
AC2DC BAD: 0 0
R/NR: 1588/0
RTF asics: 0
 5 restarted      0 reset          0 reset2         3 fake_wins
 0 stuck_bist     0 low_power      0 stuck_pll      0 runtime_dsble
 0 purge_queue    0 read_timeouts  0 dc2dc_oc       2 read_tmout2    5 read_crptn
 0 purge_queue3   31 bad_idle
Adapter queues: rsp=3, req=19

Please upgrade to latest version (2.5.6 experimental), but most probably it wont help.
It looks like it was damaged in shipping. Mark the whole loop as "removed" in "settings"->"asics".

Regards`

[zvisha]

Hi all.
Don't have much time to read the posts lately, you will need to catch me on skype if you need my attention.

I just released version 2.5.6, marked as experimental.
It has different behaviour regarding the BIST to reduce amount of noise caused by the latest batch of PSUs, so it's behaviour might differ.
It looks very good on the new PSUs, making the noise negligible, and it locks faster on optimal frequency.
If you have hash-rate under 4100 in 220V with all loops and under 3800 in 110V with all loops (for SP30), it might solve your problems.
I will be testing it tonight and make it official release tomorrow if all stable.

Regards`

[Ski72]

Where can I download that version of FW?  I wish you had links on your website for these updates as well.  I'm not a "super" user which puts me at a bit of a disadvantage when trouble shooting my SP30.  I've got the same issue with loop 12 ... I appreciate any help/guidance!