Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[TwitchySeal]

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That's literally what democrats did after Biden had a bad debate.

I find this such a simplistic view of the world... the US at the moment has about 50% of their voting population on each side...

Saying democrats to label half the country, millions of people, makes little sense to me.

This reminded me of the "folders vs scrunchers" thing from the toilet... some people fold their toilet paper, others "scrunch" it, and they are usually unaware of the other type...

It's like me saying that "folders" have certain characteristic... and "scrunchers" have another... that's not really how we humans work. Each one of us is a complex being with multiple ideas and unique experiences.

If not democrats, what would you prefer we refer to the people that supported Bidens previous nomination and then supported replacing him with Kamala?

[EarnOnVictor]

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life.

That's literally what democrats did after Biden had a bad debate.

I love the Democratic Party of the USA and we the true Democrats because we are not lousy, we are not liars and we face reality as it is. Biden stepped down for that reason, people saw the flaws and we are true to ourselves, so with almost a collective voice, he was pressured out of the race for a better contestant to face Trump. This is obviously different from the mindset of the Republican party and their followers, theirs is to hail Trump when he sees White and calls it Black. I don't need to say more before knowing the kind of people they are.

[summonerrk]

Recently there was an alarming rumor that the US still wants to allow strikes on Russia, but only after the elections. And to be honest, I did not understand what this news means, because after the elections a new president will be elected with his own views and thoughts. And of course, no one can know who will be elected in the end.
It is possible that if Trump is elected, he will put an end to this conflict altogether.

[Agbe]

Recently there was an alarming rumor that the US still wants to allow strikes on Russia, but only after the elections. And to be honest, I did not understand what this news means, because after the elections a new president will be elected with his own views and thoughts. And of course, no one can know who will be elected in the end.
It is possible that if Trump is elected, he will put an end to this conflict altogether.

I am not at US or Russia so I can't predict what will happen aftermath of the US election but those who are there should know better and the two candidates who Russia was friendly in those days can stop the war. And from information I had gotten, US like to vote for someone who can defend their country and also to attack their preys. And that is why they don't like someone that is weak. And the rumour you heard might be true because for now everyone in US is focusing on the election and if they launched attacks now it will definitely affect their election. But we pray that they should not strike because they will cause another international chaos.

[Sithara007]

33 days to go for the elections. But I am not expecting that we will get to know who will be the next president on the same day. Postal ballots and absentee ballots may take a lot more time to count, and if the opinion polls are anywhere near reality then a lot of the states are going to deliver very close contests. Pennsylvania is going to definitely top the list, and opinion polls suggest a very tight race there. Other close contests are in North Caroloina, Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin.

[Kavelj22]

Recently there was an alarming rumor that the US still wants to allow strikes on Russia, but only after the elections. And to be honest, I did not understand what this news means, because after the elections a new president will be elected with his own views and thoughts. And of course, no one can know who will be elected in the end.
It is possible that if Trump is elected, he will put an end to this conflict altogether.

Perhaps the issue of relations with Russia is the biggest issue from which we can predict who will win the upcoming elections. Of course, Russia prefers Trump and there is no doubt that it will not hesitate to support him in all legitimate and illegitimate ways, but do American voters really want to end the war in Ukraine? Personally, I highly doubt that, and it has become clear to me since the beginning of the Ukrainian war that all American Democrats support their party in its hostility to Russia and its support for Ukraine, and that the Republicans agree with them on this. The only person who talks about peace with Ukraine is Trump. Trump, who no longer wants to talk much about relations with Russia and has begun to avoid delving into the subject deeply because he is perhaps aware of the sensitivity of the situation, especially with the increasing complexity of the conflict and the unwillingness of all parties to end it quickly.

[Hispo]

33 days to go for the elections. But I am not expecting that we will get to know who will be the next president on the same day. Postal ballots and absentee ballots may take a lot more time to count, and if the opinion polls are anywhere near reality then a lot of the states are going to deliver very close contests.

This is going to be a razon thin election as it was back in 2020, that is not news. The questions is whether Trump will succeed to have the difference this time, win the election or rather lose it and call it a fraud as he did last time.
The important thing to remember as bettors, is this month (October) traditionally there is a surprise which could impact heavily the world of American politics and I am betting it will happen again this year, and because if the razor thin margin we are expecting to see. It would be reasonable to say this election is going to be decided on whatever happens with the October surprise.

It was a already a surprise Biden decided to drop out, because of the pressure on his shoulders and from the democrat party. There is going to be a another surprise, I am quite sure.

[ChiBitCTy]

33 days to go for the elections. But I am not expecting that we will get to know who will be the next president on the same day. Postal ballots and absentee ballots may take a lot more time to count, and if the opinion polls are anywhere near reality then a lot of the states are going to deliver very close contests.

This is going to be a razon thin election as it was back in 2020, that is not news. The questions is whether Trump will succeed to have the difference this time, win the election or rather lose it and call it a fraud as he did last time.
The important thing to remember as bettors, is this month (October) traditionally there is a surprise which could impact heavily the world of American politics and I am betting it will happen again this year, and because if the razor thin margin we are expecting to see. It would be reasonable to say this election is going to be decided on whatever happens with the October surprise.

It was a already a surprise Biden decided to drop out, because of the pressure on his shoulders and from the democrat party. There is going to be a another surprise, I am quite sure.

I guess you could call in "razor thin" if you look at it from an electoral college point of view.  To me it's insane to still have the electoral college put in place when it should just be whomever gets the most votes, wins, plain and simple.  I mean that's how most wins and losses are calculated. 

I have to say though I'm not quite sure what you mean by this? " The important thing to remember as bettors, is this month (October) traditionally there is a surprise which could impact heavily the world of American politics and I am betting it will happen again this year"?  What was that surprise last time?

[virasog]

Recently there was an alarming rumor that the US still wants to allow strikes on Russia, but only after the elections. And to be honest, I did not understand what this news means, because after the elections a new president will be elected with his own views and thoughts. And of course, no one can know who will be elected in the end.
It is possible that if Trump is elected, he will put an end to this conflict altogether.

Are you sure that Trump or any US president is able to stop this war in which they are not directly involved? And there is not just one conflict or war as we have seen yesterday Iran also had strikes on the Israel and the tension in this region is at its highest level. The world needs peace and any president who focuses on it (before and after the election) will get the sentiments from the public.

Also, we should need to know who wants the Russia-Ukraine war to continue and who is the won to give maximum damage to the Russian as a result of this war. Countries not directly involved in the war have a direct interest in these wars.

[yahoo62278]

Last nights debate with the Vice President elects was semi interesting and might have pushed a few towards voting Republican in the upcoming election. Vance definitely looked better on the podium and was more prepared in his answers vs Walz. I think by this point most have their minds made up as to whom they will vote for as far as Trump and Harris go, but last night may have pushed some undecideds towards republican.

[Haunebu]

Last nights debate with the Vice President elects was semi interesting and might have pushed a few towards voting Republican in the upcoming election. Vance definitely looked better on the podium and was more prepared in his answers vs Walz. I think by this point most have their minds made up as to whom they will vote for as far as Trump and Harris go, but last night may have pushed some undecideds towards republican.

Some undecided voters might have chosen to vote for the republicans, but that number is probably quite small. For example, polymarket still shows that Harris is winning albeit by a very small margin.

Nobody including Trump and Harris are confident about who will become the new president since the split is insanely small. Result day will be one to watch.

[Bushdark]

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life.

That's literally what democrats did after Biden had a bad debate.

I love the Democratic Party of the USA and we the true Democrats because we are not lousy, we are not liars and we face reality as it is. Biden stepped down for that reason, people saw the flaws and we are true to ourselves, so with almost a collective voice, he was pressured out of the race for a better contestant to face Trump. This is obviously different from the mindset of the Republican party and their followers, theirs is to hail Trump when he sees White and calls it Black. I don't need to say more before knowing the kind of people they are.

Your first sentence sound very true but I don't know if others would support that. The Democrat has some bunch of liars and I don't know if you are trying to support them or not. I am not here to argue about who's the bets party to join or existing.
Do not forget that Biden has tried his best being a president and now the vise which is Harris is on the way to take the seat of the presidency which we all are still suffering from the inability for the government to make the economy comfortable for every American citizens. If Harris finally becomes the president, what should we be expecting? Continuation of what we are seeing now or a quench of high inflation?

[baeva]

Last nights debate with the Vice President elects was semi interesting and might have pushed a few towards voting Republican in the upcoming election. Vance definitely looked better on the podium and was more prepared in his answers vs Walz. I think by this point most have their minds made up as to whom they will vote for as far as Trump and Harris go, but last night may have pushed some undecideds towards republican.

They have about another month to get someone on their side, both trump and harris. Yes, there won't be any more debates, but they will have a bunch of conferences where they can say something that could create a swing to their side. Really I can't even imagine what they could say anymore, most likely everything has already been said and all they have to do is wait for the vote.

[Webetcoins]

Yeah, you are valid, everyone would want to say for their preferred candidate, but one thing I am unique about is that I do not deceive myself. If my candidate has a bad side, I will plainly say it and might even stop supporting such if the issue can't be overlooked.

This should be normalized. I think many voters are too in their heads about loyalty and patriotism that they think their candidate is a saint that can do and have never done anything wrong in their life. These candidates are not perfect and shall not be treated as such. Some politicians have done bad things but they have done also some good ones. If you were to vote, you should make sure you are voting for the lesser evil between the two and one who is more capable than the other. Having a preferred candidate does not mean that you think that that candidate is far more superior than everyone else. No, it should not be like that.

I saw many people voting for Kamala Harris only because they think she would be more open to listen and change her stances about certain topics compared to Trump. But in reality, many citizens do not think they are both worthy candidates for president. But one has to win and people would prefer if it was someone who is less worse than the other.

Unfortunately the policy differences is the reason why many people pick different candidates. For example why Kamala would be voted for a democrat? Because democrats know that Trump would give huge tax breaks to rich folks, and ban federal abortion law like he did, or at least keep it state by state, so if you live on a state that bans it, and get raped, and get pregnant, you have to carry your rapists baby and give birth to it, which while men here may not mind, they never been raped, but believe me, no woman wants that, and MANY woman vote for Kamala because of this.

There are immigrant issues with Kamala that many people would vote Trump for. Because USA could have as much as 2 or 3 million illegal immigrants who will turn to citizens if Kamala is elected, maybe not all, but certainly Kamala wants to do all of them, so Trump has that they are going for. This election is the most policy based one I remember in a long time, you vote based on which one you care about. You may think election is personal, but we know which policy they have, and people vote based on the policy.

[Hispo]

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Some undecided voters might have chosen to vote for the republicans, but that number is probably quite small. For example, polymarket still shows that Harris is winning albeit by a very small margin.

Nobody including Trump and Harris are confident about who will become the new president since the split is insanely small. Result day will be one to watch.

I wonder whether Walz would be up to continue to debate Vance in other occasions and events as their presidential campaign goes on, unlike Trump, Vance seems to have the willingness and the spine to continue to try to attract more voters to come into the big old party. I am sure Walz would like to have a rematch, and see if he can recover the little bit of undecided ones who probably are smcinsidering to vote for Donald Trump, instead of Kamala.
At this point in time they should focus their debates in swing states and debate in Georgia, Arizona... and settle the things right, talking about local politics and how they are supposedly the best option for those swing states which seem to have the election on their hands, their votes seem to be more of value than the rest of the people living in the rest of the country. At least that is the impression I have gotten from the way the electoral college works.

[yahoo62278]

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Some undecided voters might have chosen to vote for the republicans, but that number is probably quite small. For example, polymarket still shows that Harris is winning albeit by a very small margin.

Nobody including Trump and Harris are confident about who will become the new president since the split is insanely small. Result day will be one to watch.

I wonder whether Walz would be up to continue to debate Vance in other occasions and events as their presidential campaign goes on, unlike Trump, Vance seems to have the willingness and the spine to continue to try to attract more voters to come into the big old party. I am sure Walz would like to have a rematch, and see if he can recover the little bit of undecided ones who probably are smcinsidering to vote for Donald Trump, instead of Kamala.
At this point in time they should focus their debates in swing states and debate in Georgia, Arizona... and settle the things right, talking about local politics and how they are supposedly the best option for those swing states which seem to have the election on their hands, their votes seem to be more of value than the rest of the people living in the rest of the country. At least that is the impression I have gotten from the way the electoral college works.

I don't think there will be another debate as the election is a month away. If I was Walz I would stay far away from accepting another invite to debate if it were given though. His inexperience showed last night and he should just focus on some rallies or something.

Trump had accepted an invite to another debate with Harris but apparently pulled out in the last week.

[KTChampions]

Recently there was an alarming rumor that the US still wants to allow strikes on Russia, but only after the elections. And to be honest, I did not understand what this news means, because after the elections a new president will be elected with his own views and thoughts. And of course, no one can know who will be elected in the end.
It is possible that if Trump is elected, he will put an end to this conflict altogether.

An absurd situation regardless of the elections: the war is in its third year, and the victim of aggression is not allowed to resist normally   Doesn't anyone find this strange? The red lines that the aggressors constantly talk about mean nothing - Ukraine has already even captured part of Russian territory and Russia swallowed it.
In any case, it is already clear what is happening under Biden-Harris: wars all over the world, I hope there are more people who want to return to peacetime (there was no such thing under Trump).

[TwitchySeal]

In any case, it is already clear what is happening under Biden-Harris: wars all over the world, I hope there are more people who want to return to peacetime (there was no such thing under Trump).

Don't forget how clear what was happening under Trump:  A global pandemic that crippled the economy and killed almost 1 million Americans.  

Can't just blame all bad things that happen when Biden is president on Biden without doing the same for Trump.

[nullama]

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If not democrats, what would you prefer we refer to the people that supported Bidens previous nomination and then supported replacing him with Kamala?

That's the point I'm trying to make, not about the actual label, but the idea that millions of people would behave in the same way because they have a certain political inclination.

Those are huge generalizations, and I don't think they are actually valid as every individual behaves very different to what you might expect.

I think that's part of the problem in the US, that it is so divided, with a lot of people thinking "us vs them" mentality.

[summonerrk]

Recently there was an alarming rumor that the US still wants to allow strikes on Russia, but only after the elections. And to be honest, I did not understand what this news means, because after the elections a new president will be elected with his own views and thoughts. And of course, no one can know who will be elected in the end.
It is possible that if Trump is elected, he will put an end to this conflict altogether.

Perhaps the issue of relations with Russia is the biggest issue from which we can predict who will win the upcoming elections. Of course, Russia prefers Trump and there is no doubt that it will not hesitate to support him in all legitimate and illegitimate ways, but do American voters really want to end the war in Ukraine? Personally, I highly doubt that, and it has become clear to me since the beginning of the Ukrainian war that all American Democrats support their party in its hostility to Russia and its support for Ukraine, and that the Republicans agree with them on this. The only person who talks about peace with Ukraine is Trump. Trump, who no longer wants to talk much about relations with Russia and has begun to avoid delving into the subject deeply because he is perhaps aware of the sensitivity of the situation, especially with the increasing complexity of the conflict and the unwillingness of all parties to end it quickly.

They all act based on their views, benefits and ratings. All American politicians are usually taught this when they are still studying in Washington. Trump is not just a politician, he is a talented trader who knows what it is to be broke, and at the same time was on top. I admit that this is why I respect him. So, he really seems to have closed his eyes to this issue a little. Apparently, he thinks that it is better to do it this way now.