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September 05, 2024, 02:33:48 AM
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Harris may be around for years in politics but I don't think she is well-liked after she became a vice president and a border czar. Biden put her in that position for her to be blamed for the illegal migration and she willingly accepted it. And she even supported defunding the police. With all the stupid policies she supported, I doubt she has the advantage over Trump.

If there ever is a debate, that's when people see this lady is not black. They know it's her downfall and could be the reason for the no debate for Kamala. But Trump may still be exposing her sooner.



During her term as vice president, Harris largely remained out of the spotlight and achieved nothing of note. Also, she would never have been the Democratic choice if Biden had not had health problems or if Democrats had had more time to re-select a candidate.

I also agree with everyone that Harris is much better than Clinton but I don't think she is strong enough to compete with Trump. For me, the most balanced race is still between Trump and Biden, but unfortunately, Biden cannot complete this race due to health reasons.

If we check the betting results on polymarket, we can see that Trump is once again creating a huge gap over Harris.

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September 05, 2024, 03:59:51 AM
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Harris may be around for years in politics but I don't think she is well-liked after she became a vice president and a border czar. Biden put her in that position for her to be blamed for the illegal migration and she willingly accepted it. And she even supported defunding the police. With all the stupid policies she supported, I doubt she has the advantage over Trump.

If there ever is a debate, that's when people see this lady is not black. They know it's her downfall and could be the reason for the no debate for Kamala. But Trump may still be exposing her sooner.

Well.. she doesn't need to worry about it. It is really easy to fool the American people. Especially if you have the media with you. Kamala will issue a few statements against illegal aliens and violence and a lot of stupid neutral voters are going to trust her and vote blue on November. Entire social media world (except Twitter) is with Kamala, and mainstream media is also 99% with her. On top of that, there will be industrial scale vote rigging and fraud by Democrats during the presidential elections. Given all this, Kamala doesn't need to worry.
I think there are a few morons in the American culture but no more than every other race in the world. That doesn't mean they're all dumb as hell though. Most people know that all Politicians are full of shit. They just tell 1 lie after another trying to get votes, make empty promises that they cannot get done, and hope that noone remembers on the next election.

Trump(as long as he stays out of prison) is likely going to win this election and we will see the nutso media crucify him for the next 4 years along with the Democrats help.

Ok I"ll bite.  Why do you guys think Kamala isn't black?  Is it because only one parent is black?  Or do Jamaicans not count as black?  Or is it just because Trump said so?

And if she's not black, then what is she?  She has one parent that's Indian, but if that made her Indian than the other parent would make her also black.

I might be wrong but I don't think she's even played the race card or the sex card since Biden dropped out.  Pretty sure she didn't in her convention speech at least.

Well.. let's see. If media was at least partially fair, then Kamala would be one of the most hated human beings in entire United States.
Oh really why is that?  What has she done to deserve such a title?  

My guess is that you say that because she's running against Trump and the only media you read is the media that tells you how dishonest the other media is and that Liberals, Conservatives that don't support Trump,  Universities, scientists, doctors, federal employees, journalists, gay people and immigrants are evil and they want to eat your children and only Trump can save you?

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September 05, 2024, 07:08:40 AM
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For me, the most balanced race is still between Trump and Biden, but unfortunately, Biden cannot complete this race due to health reasons.
You are one of the very few people on this planet who actually thinks this way. What in the world makes you think that someone like Biden who cannot even debate properly anymore is better than Harris against Trump?

My guess is that you say that because she's running against Trump and the only media you read is the media that tells you how dishonest the other media is and that Liberals, Conservatives that don't support Trump,  Universities, scientists, doctors, federal employees, journalists, gay people and immigrants are evil and they want to eat your children and only Trump can save you?
Agreed. These Trump supporters will say anything to make that clown shine, but the fact is that they are nervous just as much as Trump about Harris winning which is a clear possibility now.

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September 05, 2024, 07:28:40 AM
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Harris may be around for years in politics but I don't think she is well-liked after she became a vice president and a border czar. Biden put her in that position for her to be blamed for the illegal migration and she willingly accepted it. And she even supported defunding the police. With all the stupid policies she supported, I doubt she has the advantage over Trump.

If there ever is a debate, that's when people see this lady is not black. They know it's her downfall and could be the reason for the no debate for Kamala. But Trump may still be exposing her sooner.



During her term as vice president, Harris largely remained out of the spotlight and achieved nothing of note. Also, she would never have been the Democratic choice if Biden had not had health problems or if Democrats had had more time to re-select a candidate.

I also agree with everyone that Harris is much better than Clinton but I don't think she is strong enough to compete with Trump. For me, the most balanced race is still between Trump and Biden, but unfortunately, Biden cannot complete this race due to health reasons.

If we check the betting results on polymarket, we can see that Trump is once again creating a huge gap over Harris.
The coefficients can change dramatically at one point and the one who was a leader in the moment today will be behind tomorrow. The same thing can happen after public debate, for example, when one of the candidates begins to speak all nonsense that is little about politics.

I sometimes think that many voters cannot fully follow the presidential race and observe this only superficially and draw conclusions as well. It is these voters on superficial judgment that the winner will determine. Sometimes I think that for Kamala they can vote for a woman for the first time become president. Someone will say that this is not the smartest thought, but I am afraid that some of these reasons will make their vote.

 
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September 05, 2024, 08:53:11 AM
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Harris may be around for years in politics but I don't think she is well-liked after she became a vice president and a border czar. Biden put her in that position for her to be blamed for the illegal migration and she willingly accepted it. And she even supported defunding the police. With all the stupid policies she supported, I doubt she has the advantage over Trump.

If there ever is a debate, that's when people see this lady is not black. They know it's her downfall and could be the reason for the no debate for Kamala. But Trump may still be exposing her sooner.

Well.. she doesn't need to worry about it. It is really easy to fool the American people. Especially if you have the media with you. Kamala will issue a few statements against illegal aliens and violence and a lot of stupid neutral voters are going to trust her and vote blue on November. Entire social media world (except Twitter) is with Kamala, and mainstream media is also 99% with her. On top of that, there will be industrial scale vote rigging and fraud by Democrats during the presidential elections. Given all this, Kamala doesn't need to worry.
The major media networks have been with the Democrats for decades. I used to love the Democrats but the party now is so far left that it is scary; to provide drive by free abortions at the RNC Convention….that is very disappointing.  And for men free vasectomies….just tell us you want to reduce population growth. I just wonder if there are men and women in leadership are in Washington to actually represent We the People as they claim.

Kamala Harris is DEI…..pretends she came from a poor background. Her Father was a Professor at Stanford in CA. Her Mother had a professional position. During Biden administration, she was in the shadows and did not talk to the press because she gets the facts mixed up and lies….saying she worked in the summers when she was in college at McDonald’s…. no proof of that work record.

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September 05, 2024, 10:43:20 AM
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Kamala Harris is DEI…..pretends she came from a poor background. Her Father was a Professor at Stanford in CA. Her Mother had a professional position. During Biden administration, she was in the shadows and did not talk to the press because she gets the facts mixed up and lies….saying she worked in the summers when she was in college at McDonald’s…. no proof of that work record.
I did not notice information about Kamala Harris before the failed ass* on Trump. After that violent accident, there are many information leaked, videos, documents and stories which all enlighten me that Kamala Harris is a communist.

Then I had chances to explore her past speeches, policies and I am fearful for the Americans that how many people can support her. The nation is famous of freedom respect and human rights but recent years, it seems that many things are going worse and terrible there.

Elon Musk said like this.
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September 05, 2024, 04:50:28 PM
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Kamala Harris is DEI…..pretends she came from a poor background. Her Father was a Professor at Stanford in CA. Her Mother had a professional position. During Biden administration, she was in the shadows and did not talk to the press because she gets the facts mixed up and lies….saying she worked in the summers when she was in college at McDonald’s…. no proof of that work record.
I did not notice information about Kamala Harris before the failed ass* on Trump. After that violent accident, there are many information leaked, videos, documents and stories which all enlighten me that Kamala Harris is a communist.

Then I had chances to explore her past speeches, policies and I am fearful for the Americans that how many people can support her. The nation is famous of freedom respect and human rights but recent years, it seems that many things are going worse and terrible there.

Elon Musk said like this.
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"I have never been materially active in politics before, but this time I think civilization as we know it is on the line. If we want to preserve freedom and a meritocracy in America, then Trump must win."

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Elon is not my idol but I agree with him. Americans must beat Communism.

I guess there's a good reason why there are protests these days about US becoming communist.
She never used that Black card, she use to just proclaim she is Indian even in her past interviews but now its convenient to claim she is black because of the votes.

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Because nobody liked Clinton from all of her opinions from long before Trump entered politics. So Trump was viewed more favorably at the time. Now it is the reverse situation, but with Harris.
I think it is not fair to compare Trump and Harris in two elections. Harris is a politician for many years but Trump was not before the 2016 Election. He only joined political community in the nation around 2016, not like Harris. People in the USA probably knew about Harris in politics more than what they knew of Trump before 2016.
Yes, but Kamala Harris didn't do a four year presidency, she is the VP that's true, but never a president, whereas Trump did one term as president. His "outsider" status was gone the moment he was sweared into the office, he is no longer an outsider, he has been in politics since 2015 when he started his campaign, that means 9 years, he has been in politics for 9 years, how long you have to be in politics to be not considered an outsider anymore? This is why I believe that the best thing we can do is look at them as who they are and not what they have done only.

I feel like Kamala is considered a lot more soft, that could be a good thing on some subjects when you are a president but not good on some other subjects, Trump is a lot more aggressive, which is useless and terrible for some subjects, but very great and needed for some other subjects. People will pick, do they want Trump or Kamala leading their nation whenever there is a decision time.

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September 05, 2024, 11:40:05 PM
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I guess there's a good reason why there are protests these days about US becoming communist.
No one wants to see that their government will shift from democratic or federal republic into communism.

That's a lot of shift from the current stands of it. But, it could also be a demolition job.

I feel like Kamala is considered a lot more soft, that could be a good thing on some subjects when you are a president but not good on some other subjects, Trump is a lot more aggressive, which is useless and terrible for some subjects, but very great and needed for some other subjects. People will pick, do they want Trump or Kamala leading their nation whenever there is a decision time.
There are some other options too but they're out of the league already as the election is focused on these two.

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The "communism" talk is just to scare the republicans, no democrat believes that she will turn the country into communist regime, hell she is not even leftist at all. It's the typical USA stuff where they think anything that is not republican is communist, which is funny because it's so obviously wrong from a mile away when you are not from America.

Even funnier thing, back in the day communism and Russia being enemy was the republican thing, now Trump is friends with Russia and Putin, and the moment he takes control (if he ever does again) we can bet that the help to Ukraine will stop, which will only benefit Russia, a formerly communist regime. So if you ask me who is closer to communists, it's Trump.

But all funny stuff aside, both parties are right wing, one is radical right wing, the other is centre right wing, there is no left wing in the USA, never has been and I believe never will be. One person I know as left wing was Bernie Sanders, and he is too old and doesn't matter anymore.

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As far as I know Trump has said he wants to stop the war between Ukraine and Russia. It seems to me that a strong-willed politician like Trump can push these two countries to negotiate and sign a peace agreement.

If I had the right to vote, I would definitely vote for Trump. In my opinion any conflicts should be solved not with weapons but with agreements. And Trump is more capable of doing that than anyone else.

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In my opinion any conflicts should be solved not with weapons but with agreements.

This is Russia's aggression    against sovereignty (which must be punished) rather than conflict.

Trump blows a pipe of his buddy, war-criminal Putin because of the political payment.

The latest on his former campaign adviser Dimitri Simes evidences that Americans has comprehended what's up with all Trump statements. His chances to beat Harris    are drying out as the foliage day by day, day by day...

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During her term as vice president, Harris largely remained out of the spotlight and achieved nothing of note. Also, she would never have been the Democratic choice if Biden had not had health problems or if Democrats had had more time to re-select a candidate.
Says who? I wonder why you guys spit out what you do not know or defend. How many US vice presidents do you hear their voices loud like the president and the secretary of state? Does that mean they are useless? We have to be reasonable at times. There is a division of work and hierarchy of it as well which is why the work of some offices will be silent but they are effectively carried out. As silent as the office work is, I am certain that she is one of the top advisers to the US president and Biden can't be foolish enough to nominee a dollard and all the leaders of the Democratic Party endorsed the same.

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I also agree with everyone that Harris is much better than Clinton but I don't think she is strong enough to compete with Trump.
You are certainly agreeing to nonsense, Harris does not have the track record of Clinton and Clinton is more popular than her until she was nominated to be the vice president of the US. She also won Trump with the popular vote while Harris's fate is still unknown yet, so what do you agree to? C'mon!!!

As for contesting against Trump, Harris is a viable contender, maybe you didn't check the positive poll changes after Biden stepped down.

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I also agree with everyone that Harris is much better than Clinton but I don't think she is strong enough to compete with Trump.
You are certainly agreeing to nonsense, Harris does not have the track record of Clinton and Clinton is more popular than her until she was nominated to be the vice president of the US. She also won Trump with the popular vote while Harris's fate is still unknown yet, so what do you agree to? C'mon!!!

As for contesting against Trump, Harris is a viable contender, maybe you didn't check the positive poll changes after Biden stepped down.
Your post isn’t quoted properly. You should correct it so readers can know which person they are responding to.

No doubt Kamala Harris is the viable contender Democrats can present to the people. Biden was going to make sure they lose the elections so they had him step down from the presidential race. Kamala Harris has better chances than Biden. For one, she’s a woman. She’s younger and in good health. Unlike Biden, she can articulate her thoughts better - though she’s been caught lying about certain things like working at McDonald’s. Last but not least, Kamala Harris is a woman of color. I agree she’s a better candidate than Biden, I will like to see how well she does in a debate with Trump.

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September 06, 2024, 08:35:40 AM
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Trump did an interview yesterday at some Economic Club in NY.  Here's one of his responses:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5131108/user-clip-trump-responds-re-child-care-9524

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If you win in November, can you commit to prioritizing legislation to make childcare affordable, and, if so, what specific piece of legislation will you advance?

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Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down—you know, I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that—because look, child care is childcare, it’s—couldn’t, you know, it’s something, you have to have it, in this country you have to have it.

But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to—but they’ll get used to it very quickly—and it’s not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including childcare, that it’s going to take care.

We’re gonna have—I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with childcare. I want to stay with childcare, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just—that I just told you about.

We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as childcare is talked about as being expensive, it’s relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in. We’re gonna make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world.

Let’s help other people, but we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about ‘Make America Great Again.’

We have to do it because right now we’re a failing nation, so we’ll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.

Seems like he may have caught what Biden had.

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September 06, 2024, 09:21:45 AM
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I also agree with everyone that Harris is much better than Clinton but I don't think she is strong enough to compete with Trump.
You are certainly agreeing to nonsense, Harris does not have the track record of Clinton and Clinton is more popular than her until she was nominated to be the vice president of the US. She also won Trump with the popular vote while Harris's fate is still unknown yet, so what do you agree to? C'mon!!!

As for contesting against Trump, Harris is a viable contender, maybe you didn't check the positive poll changes after Biden stepped down.
Your post isn’t quoted properly. You should correct it so readers can know which person they are responding to.

No doubt Kamala Harris is the viable contender Democrats can present to the people. Biden was going to make sure they lose the elections so they had him step down from the presidential race. Kamala Harris has better chances than Biden. For one, she’s a woman. She’s younger and in good health. Unlike Biden, she can articulate her thoughts better - though she’s been caught lying about certain things like working at McDonald’s. Last but not least, Kamala Harris is a woman of color. I agree she’s a better candidate than Biden, I will like to see how well she does in a debate with Trump.

Wait, what? Kamala has been caught lying not even once? Hmmmm this is pretty messed up.

I have a question for all members who are against trump, what good do you think that kamala will do for crypto space if she gets elected? Because the only reason why many wants trump there is because of the well being of crypto space, kamala have biden and Elizabeth warren, stable coins will be in trouble, Bitcoin miners in the U.S will be in a very tight spot, and more, what good do you all think that kamala would do?

She never even for once claimed to support Bitcoin, are you guys sure you want this? She didn't talk about it because she has a nasty plan for crypto once she is in power, that quietness speaks a lot.
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September 06, 2024, 09:46:02 AM
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I also agree with everyone that Harris is much better than Clinton but I don't think she is strong enough to compete with Trump.
You are certainly agreeing to nonsense, Harris does not have the track record of Clinton and Clinton is more popular than her until she was nominated to be the vice president of the US. She also won Trump with the popular vote while Harris's fate is still unknown yet, so what do you agree to? C'mon!!!

As for contesting against Trump, Harris is a viable contender, maybe you didn't check the positive poll changes after Biden stepped down.
Your post isn’t quoted properly. You should correct it so readers can know which person they are responding to.

No doubt Kamala Harris is the viable contender Democrats can present to the people. Biden was going to make sure they lose the elections so they had him step down from the presidential race. Kamala Harris has better chances than Biden. For one, she’s a woman. She’s younger and in good health. Unlike Biden, she can articulate her thoughts better - though she’s been caught lying about certain things like working at McDonald’s. Last but not least, Kamala Harris is a woman of color. I agree she’s a better candidate than Biden, I will like to see how well she does in a debate with Trump.

Wait, what? Kamala has been caught lying not even once? Hmmmm this is pretty messed up.

I have a question for all members who are against trump, what good do you think that kamala will do for crypto space if she gets elected? Because the only reason why many wants trump there is because of the well being of crypto space, kamala have biden and Elizabeth warren, stable coins will be in trouble, Bitcoin miners in the U.S will be in a very tight spot, and more, what good do you all think that kamala would do?

She never even for once claimed to support Bitcoin, are you guys sure you want this? She didn't talk about it because she has a nasty plan for crypto once she is in power, that quietness speaks a lot.

Kamala Harris indeed is a better competitor to Trump than Biden but still not a match for Trump.
The new anti-immigration trend in Europe do suggest that anti-immigration candidate like Trump would have increased popularity.
Kamala Harris is a women, People in US don't prefer women president, a misogynist like Trump is celebrated.
She's of mixed race but is neither white enough or black enough. She'd miss the votes of people that vote by color.  IMO, I don't see her winning in a fair election.

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September 06, 2024, 11:19:56 AM
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Wait, what? Kamala has been caught lying not even once? Hmmmm this is pretty messed up.

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Actually, in  these times when political discussion is so heated up and people within the establishment is pretty much willing to say anything to get more votes, it is common for people to accuse the contrary party of lying about pretty much anything it comes to mind.
For example, both the Republican and Democrat party have very different appreciations on whether the southern USA border is a mess or not, depends whom you ask it is either a humanitarian crisis continuously going on or it is an "invasion" of people who are not welcome in the country.
But I get you point when it is very ironical to have someone in this forum to point out an alledged lied said by Kamala Harris, when lying is daily normal for Donald Trump, who seems to have resd about the old tactic of the Nazi Germany about repeating a lie until it becomes a truth.

By the way, the people of the USA should worry less about whether one of their candidates passed their bar examen at first try or whether worked on a Macdonald's, that is the least thing to worry about when the other is a convicted felon awaiting for sentencing and also indicted in several other jurisdictions.


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September 06, 2024, 12:27:25 PM
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I have a question for all members who are against trump, what good do you think that kamala will do for crypto space if she gets elected? Because the only reason why many wants trump there is because of the well being of crypto space, kamala have biden and Elizabeth warren, stable coins will be in trouble, Bitcoin miners in the U.S will be in a very tight spot, and more, what good do you all think that kamala would do?
What rock are you people living under? No politician cares about the crypto world and you are delusional if you think any of them do. Trump changed his stance on crypto just to acquire more support and even a kid can tell that much.

Neither Harris nor Trump give two shits about cryptocurrencies. Y'all need to find better reasons to support Trump frankly speaking.

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September 07, 2024, 07:26:48 AM
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Wait, what? Kamala has been caught lying not even once? Hmmmm this is pretty messed up.
Nothing is messed up here. Though I've never watched or read where Harris was quoted lying, it's part of politics as "an idea" is needed in some tough situations. But Trump is a deceiver, a blatant and shameless liar. His lies should be in thousands by now.

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I have a question for all members who are against trump, what good do you think that kamala will do for crypto space if she gets elected?
This is a selfish question. Is cryptocurrency the only responsibility of the US president?

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