Harris Vs Trump - Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[nullama]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

[peter0425]

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

I am not a Trump fan but all politicians are doing the same thing. Maybe Trump is just doing a better job at it (that is if he wins the presidential election). But bottom line is all politicians tell at least a lie or two to gain voters. Even the ones with best intentions might have kept a secret or have told a little white lie. Which is why for me, actions should be the one we are looking at.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

Well politicians are personalities anyway. You are looking at them as a person not just a politician. Effectively, how are their principles similar/different than yours?

[Hispo]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

Moreover, Trump cannot issue or launch a cryptocurrency project on his own and using his name to push it forward, it would be definitely be tagged as an un registered security by the SEC and that would only make him get into more legal problems he is already in, in my opinion. Assuming he could issue his own currency and get away with it, without the SEC getting involved in a investigation  about it, then that currency would be likely just another way for him to try to grift off his followers, by dumping his bags and making the majority of the maga base to hold theirs in the long term.
So let us not believe Trump is actually pro Bitcoin and likely to launch his own project. People is already in expectation whether Trump will dare to dump his shares of Truth social whenever he has the chance or when he needs the money to further defend himself in court.

If one is never supposed to trust politicians, I see no reason one is supposed to trust Trump, to be honest.

[Wakate]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

I don't trust many of these politicians because they will always say what will help them have more votes which is necessary for their winnings. Many of them are big gamblers trying all means to convince people that they could deliver us from this weak economy and rising cost of living. Do I still have the card about what Trump is saying? Maybe I have because he has been tested and he delivered allowing flow if money which made price of groceries and food stuff lesser. It is obvious that so many people are against him but that doesn't matter at all. This is politics and he has to keep playing the game as a successful business man.

[Kemarit]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

I don't trust many of these politicians because they will always say what will help them have more votes which is necessary for their winnings. Many of them are big gamblers trying all means to convince people that they could deliver us from this weak economy and rising cost of living. Do I still have the card about what Trump is saying? Maybe I have because he has been tested and he delivered allowing flow if money which made price of groceries and food stuff lesser. It is obvious that so many people are against him but that doesn't matter at all. This is politics and he has to keep playing the game as a successful business man.

Maybe some of us here are still banking that Trump might delivered what he had promise to us pre-election, to be a pro-crypto President. But still not a assurance to us that they can be made true by himself. He had been a President already, and we know what he did to crypto.

Perhaps it could be very different in 2024, as the US is one of the biggest hub of crypto enthusiast and we all know how powerful this nation is. But if you look at the end odds, Kamala Harris still leads or as far the betting goes. It's very close and we really don't know who is going to win. But as far as gamblers goes, Kamala is a the favorite and maybe non-Americans might bet for her to win the race.

[hedgeh0g]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

I don't trust many of these politicians because they will always say what will help them have more votes which is necessary for their winnings. Many of them are big gamblers trying all means to convince people that they could deliver us from this weak economy and rising cost of living. Do I still have the card about what Trump is saying? Maybe I have because he has been tested and he delivered allowing flow if money which made price of groceries and food stuff lesser. It is obvious that so many people are against him but that doesn't matter at all. This is politics and he has to keep playing the game as a successful business man.

You and I understand that he plays to the crowd and is ready to slander anything, but many people believe the things that are said in election speeches. Because the crowd is not picky and voting occurs because they accidentally heard a couple of promises and phrases and then made a final decision. Now Kamala is ahead of him by 2% in terms of chances of winning, but I would call it equal, because such a small difference can change in an instant. I wonder what exactly will decide the outcome of the election and who will win, it's like flipping a coin.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I see it as the hatred of the people trying to do this and their helplessness to legally confront the candidate, if they were capable of it they would be asking uncomfortable questions at conferences. No, these people instead of adequate ways choose this kind of thing and even risk their lives, it's weird, I wouldn't call this kind of thing patriotism

People who defend a candidate, fight and even kill themselves for a presidential candidate at the end of the day should know that they look very bad, trying to kill a person is even worse, what I can think is that if the world elite really wants to eliminate Trump it is because he wants to launch many things, infoamericans, declassify things, besides that it is as you say there is no patriotism shown.

One of the things for which I like TRUMP is because he tells people things to their face, sometimes he doesn't measure but he is sincere, and he is not afraid of anything, I think it is super proven. Those who wish for Trump's death, I hope he always survives so they are bored. Now, if Kamala wins, I hope they don't fall into a rotten socialism in the USA, because only those who have lived that style of government and life are the ones who can speak, not people who have not lived it. I say this with authority since I have lived that style of government and between socialism/communism I love the capitalism that Trump offers, because there will always be work and those who work the hardest earn more. In communism, those who work the hardest earn money equal to those who do nothing and are lazy.

[OgNasty]

The odds keep swinging one way or another based on whatever the news is pushing that week. I’m glad I got some good bets in on Trump when Kamala was being touted as the favorite. It seems a little selfish to think about bets when the fate of America is on the line, but you gotta keep things entertaining and enjoyable right?

[nullama]

~snip~
I don't trust many of these politicians because they will always say what will help them have more votes which is necessary for their winnings. Many of them are big gamblers trying all means to convince people that they could deliver us from this weak economy and rising cost of living. Do I still have the card about what Trump is saying? Maybe I have because he has been tested and he delivered allowing flow if money which made price of groceries and food stuff lesser. It is obvious that so many people are against him but that doesn't matter at all. This is politics and he has to keep playing the game as a successful business man.

Yes, absolutely.

Most politicians will simply say whatever they are required to obtain more votes. That's it.

It is a bad thing for democracy I think, because actual politics should matter to all people, and should be something we all talk about.

This doesn't happen these days, unfortunately. Or if it happens, it's just hatred and us vs them.

[Gheka]

Trump is using the cryptocurrency trump card very well. He is living up to his name... One day he pays with cryptocurrencies, one day he makes positive statements about cryptocurrencies and one day his son announces that he is launching a cryptocurrency project in his name. The information obtained from big data must have told them that this area will increase their votes... Kamala Harris is more cautious on this issue. If I had a negative opinion about cryptocurrencies, I would prefer Kamala Harris' tactic...

The thing with Trump is that he will basically say whatever he thinks will make him win more votes at the moment that he is talking.

It's kinda like the truth doesn't matter any more, or even the presidential candidate's opinion, all that seems to matter is what is being said at the moment.

The presidential election is almost like a reality TV contest these days.

I don't trust many of these politicians because they will always say what will help them have more votes which is necessary for their winnings. Many of them are big gamblers trying all means to convince people that they could deliver us from this weak economy and rising cost of living. Do I still have the card about what Trump is saying? Maybe I have because he has been tested and he delivered allowing flow if money which made price of groceries and food stuff lesser. It is obvious that so many people are against him but that doesn't matter at all. This is politics and he has to keep playing the game as a successful business man.

Elections are just a way to inspire trust and see how politicians convince others, they are not all lies and unrealistic, they carry the tact of communication and expressing a reasonable point of view, and people usually like to hear what is pleasing to their ears, even if you don't trust a politician, your vote will still be for them when first, your mind has paid attention and taken to heart what they say, without any disgust but because of the stressful nature as well as the marginal information, betting is relatively easy to turn around because the problem of convincing people is very likely to happen in the last minute and is unexpected.

[Sithara007]

Note this down:

Pennsylvania is going to decide the outcome of this election. There are a total of 19 electoral votes in this state, and right now RCP no tossup map shows it in blue. And this is the reason why their electoral map shows an advantage for Kamala (276 vs 262).

That said, the race there is getting really right. 7 opinion polls were released for this state in the last few days. Only one of them showed Kamala in the lead (Quinnipiac). A total of 4 polls (not joking, 4 out of 7) showed a tie between Kamala and Trump. And two polls (The Hill/Emerson and InsiderAdvantage) showed Trump in the lead.

[bitgolden]

Having a USA president that is fine with crypto will happen no matter who gets elected. Kamala has never been anti-crypto, sure maybe she hasn't been as outspoken about it as Trump has been and that is understandable, but she also never came out and said like she will ban it or something, she is a judge and she just wants laws to be followed even if it's a crypto company and that is understandable without a doubt.

I think it's true that we are going to end up with Kamala becoming the president because she is doing campaigning much better right now, Trump looks like he doesn't even want to win, he isn't trying that hard. Which goes to show that Kamala being positive on crypto is something we direly needed. It is not the people that should be worried, it's the companies in crypto world that should be worried, she and all the government agencies will be chasing after the crypto companies who are not following the law, and I bet that there are many of them out there.

[ChiBitCTy]

Having a USA president that is fine with crypto will happen no matter who gets elected. Kamala has never been anti-crypto, sure maybe she hasn't been as outspoken about it as Trump has been and that is understandable, but she also never came out and said like she will ban it or something, she is a judge and she just wants laws to be followed even if it's a crypto company and that is understandable without a doubt.

I think it's true that we are going to end up with Kamala becoming the president because she is doing campaigning much better right now, Trump looks like he doesn't even want to win, he isn't trying that hard. Which goes to show that Kamala being positive on crypto is something we direly needed. It is not the people that should be worried, it's the companies in crypto world that should be worried, she and all the government agencies will be chasing after the crypto companies who are not following the law, and I bet that there are many of them out there.

I think this is very well said.  Trump is pushing his touting of bitcoin and cryptocurrency very hard right now (even though he has absolutely no idea what any of it is or how any of it works) so it's really just about pandering for votes.  As you've mentioned, sort of like gun laws, Kamala isn't going to try and ban guns, just like shes not going to try and ban bitcoin, she's just going to make sure that both are well regulated, which I see nothing wrong with.

[Kavelj22]

We will see that once the election is done. There are priorities that they have to attend first before Bitcoin. But with some other news, Trump is aware of Bitcoin. And with the news[1] that I've seen, he even bought fans burgers with the use of Bitcoin as payment at Bitcoin bar.

[1] Trump Buys Burgers With Bitcoin at NYC Crypto Hangout PubKey

He finally show that he use Bitcoin to buy that to gets more attention from his fan. He show that he can be more friendly with Bitcoin but we don't know what is his agenda IF he elected as the new president.

At the recent Bitcoin conference in Nashville, Trump's intervention was not significant, although the conference itself gained increased attention due to Trump's invitation to it. Many are still convinced that Trump is seeking to gain an electoral base that supports him as a presidential candidate, and I do not think that the crypto community really trusts his promises, no matter how easy they seem to achieve.

From a personal point of view, I believe that the opinion on cryptocurrencies will remain mixed, as some see them as the future of money, while others see them as a bubble or a speculative tool. In the United States in particular, it is unfortunate that the crypto space has turned from an emerging market that promises further development opportunities, into an electoral tool used by politicians according to their narrow interests. I also believe that the position of the Democrats is more transparent and consistent with the party’s policies, which do not trust cryptocurrencies and originally avoid engaging in them, even though this may help them in the electoral campaign to win the presidency.

I don't buy what any politician says prior to an election.  It's politics 101 just say whatever you think will get ypu the most votes.  I can show you any politician and how they flipped on theor pre election position.  I mean it's nice to hear pro cryptocurremcy from someone in office but take it with a grain of salt.  I think they finally see crypto is not an "if" anymore it's really just a "when" in terms of being part of everyday life.

Perhaps this is what the Democrats do not want or seek to postpone as much as possible, at the same time that Trump is exploiting it to benefit from as much as possible. In the end, the policy of supporting crypto cannot be a determining factor for who will ultimately win the elections, but it remains an element that can be taken into account to some extent. As evidence of this, we note that after the Bitcoin conference in Nashville, candidate J.F. Kennedy abandoned his request to join the electoral race, announced his support for Trump and joined his campaign. That conference may have made a difference to some extent, and it is likely that Kennedy's electoral base (which undoubtedly supports crypto) will also move to support Trump.

Personally, I still find it difficult to predict who will win the elections, but I think that Trump has a much better chance than Harris for several reasons, the most important of which is not supporting crypto or not. The most important of which may be that Americans in general will not prefer a female president, in addition to the poor performance of the Biden administration, which divided Democrats between supporters and opponents of his re-nomination.

[Dave1]

Having a USA president that is fine with crypto will happen no matter who gets elected. Kamala has never been anti-crypto, sure maybe she hasn't been as outspoken about it as Trump has been and that is understandable, but she also never came out and said like she will ban it or something, she is a judge and she just wants laws to be followed even if it's a crypto company and that is understandable without a doubt.

I think it's true that we are going to end up with Kamala becoming the president because she is doing campaigning much better right now, Trump looks like he doesn't even want to win, he isn't trying that hard. Which goes to show that Kamala being positive on crypto is something we direly needed. It is not the people that should be worried, it's the companies in crypto world that should be worried, she and all the government agencies will be chasing after the crypto companies who are not following the law, and I bet that there are many of them out there.

I think this is very well said.  Trump is pushing his touting of bitcoin and cryptocurrency very hard right now (even though he has absolutely no idea what any of it is or how any of it works) so it's really just about pandering for votes.  As you've mentioned, sort of like gun laws, Kamala isn't going to try and ban guns, just like shes not going to try and ban bitcoin, she's just going to make sure that both are well regulated, which I see nothing wrong with.

I think Trump's know what Bitcoin is, it has been in his mouth since he has been elected in the office the first time, maybe he was just not giving it any thoughts or whatsoever. He even had nominated a SEC chairman that time that is hard on crypto if I'm mistaken.

But 6+ years, he now thinks that Bitcoin support is very critical on his candidacy, that's why he is talking at it again but this time in a very positive way. Even had his first Bitcoin transaction to gather the votes of pro-Bitcoin in the US on his side.

[nullama]

~snip~
I think Trump's know what Bitcoin is, it has been in his mouth since he has been elected in the office the first time, maybe he was just not giving it any thoughts or whatsoever. He even had nominated a SEC chairman that time that is hard on crypto if I'm mistaken.

But 6+ years, he now thinks that Bitcoin support is very critical on his candidacy, that's why he is talking at it again but this time in a very positive way. Even had his first Bitcoin transaction to gather the votes of pro-Bitcoin in the US on his side.

I don't think Trump has used Bitcoin really. Maybe he sent someone else to buy some for him, but nothing more than that.

The reality is that Trump is great at convincing people. He's a businessman, and he will say whatever people want to hear, and that includes Bitcoin people.

In reality, probably he couldn't care less about Bitcoin.

[TravelMug]

~snip~
I think Trump's know what Bitcoin is, it has been in his mouth since he has been elected in the office the first time, maybe he was just not giving it any thoughts or whatsoever. He even had nominated a SEC chairman that time that is hard on crypto if I'm mistaken.

But 6+ years, he now thinks that Bitcoin support is very critical on his candidacy, that's why he is talking at it again but this time in a very positive way. Even had his first Bitcoin transaction to gather the votes of pro-Bitcoin in the US on his side.

I don't think Trump has used Bitcoin really. Maybe he sent someone else to buy some for him, but nothing more than that.

The reality is that Trump is great at convincing people. He's a businessman, and he will say whatever people want to hear, and that includes Bitcoin people.

In reality, probably he couldn't care less about Bitcoin.

Possible, but that thing is that he wants people to know that is he is using Bitcoin for the sake of it. And so who knows, maybe there will be voters who will be trap by him and so he will have +1 to his name already.

Yes, I do agree, he knows how to take advantage and he is good at rhetoric, and to be honest he could really convince others as he is a good businessman. It's just a question whether the US wanted him to be the President again with his so called pro-Bitcoin stance.

[sompitonov]

~snip~
I think Trump's know what Bitcoin is, it has been in his mouth since he has been elected in the office the first time, maybe he was just not giving it any thoughts or whatsoever. He even had nominated a SEC chairman that time that is hard on crypto if I'm mistaken.

But 6+ years, he now thinks that Bitcoin support is very critical on his candidacy, that's why he is talking at it again but this time in a very positive way. Even had his first Bitcoin transaction to gather the votes of pro-Bitcoin in the US on his side.

I don't think Trump has used Bitcoin really. Maybe he sent someone else to buy some for him, but nothing more than that.

The reality is that Trump is great at convincing people. He's a businessman, and he will say whatever people want to hear, and that includes Bitcoin people.

In reality, probably he couldn't care less about Bitcoin.

For me it is obvious, he is just trying to seem to be interested in something, so that those who love cryptocurrencies and bitcoin will vote for him. Trump is pursuing his own goals, everyone should understand this. However, this news and video can influence those people who love Trump, but have never used bitcoin, it could be a trigger for them to start. This is good, because the more people know and use bitcoin, the better, and it will also bring liquidity to the market. So that video is good in any case, even if Trump himself did not personally pay for the burger.

[Sithara007]

I think this is very well said.  Trump is pushing his touting of bitcoin and cryptocurrency very hard right now (even though he has absolutely no idea what any of it is or how any of it works) so it's really just about pandering for votes.  As you've mentioned, sort of like gun laws, Kamala isn't going to try and ban guns, just like shes not going to try and ban bitcoin, she's just going to make sure that both are well regulated, which I see nothing wrong with.

Trump has always supported Bitcoin. Kamala on the other hand has been in power for three and half years now, and during this time she has come up with more and more restrictive regulations related to cryptocurrency. Kamala's newfound love for Bitcoin is just a hogwash. In case she is elected, she will try whatever in her capacity to destroy the cryptocurrency sector in the US. Just look around. States which are ruled by Democrats have the most restrictive cryptocurrency laws in the United States.

[TwitchySeal]

Trump has always supported Bitcoin.

Typical.