Showdown: Trump Vs Haley. Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[nullama]

Guys who are saying how bad Biden is and how he's unsuitable for being elected, how can you comment on the current odds?





Do you think all of them bettors are stupid and they don't know what you know? Do you think you are aware of some hidden truth that others aren't aware of? Well, that's great. Place your bets on Trump then. Today the odds are good for you.

Only if you don't want to lose your bets, don't do that. That's my advice.

Odds that are so rounded like that 10.0 always look a bit suspicious to me. It's like they know it's off, but they don't know exactly how unlikely that event is, so they put a round number, like 10 in this case.

The closer it is to actually happen, the more detail they add, like Biden and Trump odds in this case for example.

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[Hispo]

Guys who are saying how bad Biden is and how he's unsuitable for being elected, how can you comment on the current odds?





Do you think all of them bettors are stupid and they don't know what you know? Do you think you are aware of some hidden truth that others aren't aware of? Well, that's great. Place your bets on Trump then. Today the odds are good for you.

Only if you don't want to lose your bets, don't do that. That's my advice.

To be honest, there is a very real possibility of Trump getting elected again.
People thought that Trump running for president was a joke, and he winning was even a bigger joke. But it happened and it can happen again.

There are bettors who count on it, though, in my personal opinion Trump's chances of winning could decrease as he moves from the Republican inner struggle for power towards a general election where more moderate people participate.

I am curious what would happen to his odds if he ends up running from prison.

[o48o]

Guys who are saying how bad Biden is and how he's unsuitable for being elected, how can you comment on the current odds?





Do you think all of them bettors are stupid and they don't know what you know? Do you think you are aware of some hidden truth that others aren't aware of? Well, that's great. Place your bets on Trump then. Today the odds are good for you.

Only if you don't want to lose your bets, don't do that. That's my advice.

They can't really comment on that as majority see him more fit then trump. Haters are just going to hate and obviously keep seeing him unfit. I find it weird that there are young, and actually capable people in US then any of the favorites. Pete Buttigieg for example would be highly capable presidental candinate. He is smart and quick as hell. But people keep voting for dinoraurs for some reason.

[Sithara007]

Looking at the odds, I noticed two things - Biden's odds have worsened, and surprisingly Kennedy is now a very serious contender. I am a bit perplexed. Opinion polls are not showing a downward trend for Biden, or an upward trend for Kennedy. That said, for the greater good of world peace, I would love to see Kennedy as the POTUS in 2024, and he is much more preferable than either Biden or Trump. And in case he manages to secure the Democrat nomination, then he will be able to beat either Trump or DeSantis relatively easily.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Guys who are saying how bad Biden is and how he's unsuitable for being elected, how can you comment on the current odds?





Do you think all of them bettors are stupid and they don't know what you know? Do you think you are aware of some hidden truth that others aren't aware of? Well, that's great. Place your bets on Trump then. Today the odds are good for you.

Only if you don't want to lose your bets, don't do that. That's my advice.

I think both candidates are equally unfit and wouldn't vote for either.

The odds also said Clinton would defeat Trump so I wouldn't be so smug as to tell people they are going to lose their bets.
https://www.oddsshark.com/entertainment/us-presidential-odds-2016-futures

They can't really comment on that as majority see him more fit then trump. Haters are just going to hate and obviously keep seeing him unfit. I find it weird that there are young, and actually capable people in US then any of the favorites. Pete Buttigieg for example would be highly capable presidental candinate. He is smart and quick as hell. But people keep voting for dinoraurs for some reason.

It might be inconvenient to talk about the Biden family's corruption and his declining mental state but it is not hate. As we can see from his horrible approval ratings there are several issues affecting him negatively. It is fair to discuss all the factors which could decide who gets elected.

[Hispo]

Looking at the odds, I noticed two things - Biden's odds have worsened, and surprisingly Kennedy is now a very serious contender. I am a bit perplexed. Opinion polls are not showing a downward trend for Biden, or an upward trend for Kennedy. That said, for the greater good of world peace, I would love to see Kennedy as the POTUS in 2024, and he is much more preferable than either Biden or Trump. And in case he manages to secure the Democrat nomination, then he will be able to beat either Trump or DeSantis relatively easily.

No way Kennedy is a serious contender with the nonsense he has been caught red handed saying both in private and in public. It is disappointing he is the only Democrat nominee who people is talking about (besides Biden), because I actually expected some able politician to step up and democratically challenge Joe in a debate, but Kennedy is rather a distraction, it is a circus.

His supporters are very likely to be Republicans from the MAGA branch who believe vaccines are poison...

[Sithara007]

Looking at the odds, I noticed two things - Biden's odds have worsened, and surprisingly Kennedy is now a very serious contender. I am a bit perplexed. Opinion polls are not showing a downward trend for Biden, or an upward trend for Kennedy. That said, for the greater good of world peace, I would love to see Kennedy as the POTUS in 2024, and he is much more preferable than either Biden or Trump. And in case he manages to secure the Democrat nomination, then he will be able to beat either Trump or DeSantis relatively easily.

No way Kennedy is a serious contender with the nonsense he has been caught red handed saying both in private and in public. It is disappointing he is the only Democrat nominee who people is talking about (besides Biden), because I actually expected some able politician to step up and democratically challenge Joe in a debate, but Kennedy is rather a distraction, it is a circus.

His supporters are very likely to be Republicans from the MAGA branch who believe vaccines are poison...

Apart from Kennedy, who is the other serious contender to Democrat nomination? Harris dropped out after Biden made it clear that he will be running again. Marianne Williamson is the only other Democrat who has announced the candidature so far, and I haven't even heard about her before. There are rumors that Joe Manchin and Dean Phillips may jump in to the fray, but these two have almost zero chances of securing the nomination. And trust me, if it's between Biden and Kennedy, then I would chose the latter at any time of the day.

[bittraffic]

Biden is going to lose the race as Trump is really moving up fast gaining lots of supporters from each state. The media is starting to change its reporting which the people obviously wouldn't vote the old man who can't even remember where to go after speaking in a conference.

Really. There is no way people would vote someone who would lead a war at such state of mind. Let the old man rest and just MAGA.

[nullama]

Biden is going to lose the race as Trump is really moving up fast gaining lots of supporters from each state. The media is starting to change its reporting which the people obviously wouldn't vote the old man who can't even remember where to go after speaking in a conference.

Really. There is no way people would vote someone who would lead a war at such state of mind. Let the old man rest and just MAGA.

At 77 years old, I wouldn't call Trump young

Both candidates are pretty old to be honest, and most probably one of them will be the next president.

I wonder if any country has a maximum age for their elected leaders, they do have a minimum age though.

[Hispo]

Looking at the odds, I noticed two things - Biden's odds have worsened, and surprisingly Kennedy is now a very serious contender. I am a bit perplexed. Opinion polls are not showing a downward trend for Biden, or an upward trend for Kennedy. That said, for the greater good of world peace, I would love to see Kennedy as the POTUS in 2024, and he is much more preferable than either Biden or Trump. And in case he manages to secure the Democrat nomination, then he will be able to beat either Trump or DeSantis relatively easily.

No way Kennedy is a serious contender with the nonsense he has been caught red handed saying both in private and in public. It is disappointing he is the only Democrat nominee who people is talking about (besides Biden), because I actually expected some able politician to step up and democratically challenge Joe in a debate, but Kennedy is rather a distraction, it is a circus.

His supporters are very likely to be Republicans from the MAGA branch who believe vaccines are poison...

Apart from Kennedy, who is the other serious contender to Democrat nomination? Harris dropped out after Biden made it clear that he will be running again. Marianne Williamson is the only other Democrat who has announced the candidature so far, and I haven't even heard about her before. There are rumors that Joe Manchin and Dean Phillips may jump in to the fray, but these two have almost zero chances of securing the nomination. And trust me, if it's between Biden and Kennedy, then I would chose the latter at any time of the day.

I am not fully aware of your political standing but why are the reasons someone would prefer to vote for Kennedy instead Biden. If one looks at the statistics Biden is actually working okey on the economy, it was said even on channels like Fox.

One of the things I definitely do not like about him is how he treats certain groups of people within the USA. The government is supposed to treat all of us in the same way.

There still chance some surprise candidate within the Democrat party takes us all by surprise, very much like Obama did back in the day.

[Sithara007]

I am not fully aware of your political standing but why are the reasons someone would prefer to vote for Kennedy instead Biden. If one looks at the statistics Biden is actually working okey on the economy, it was said even on channels like Fox.

One of the things I definitely do not like about him is how he treats certain groups of people within the USA. The government is supposed to treat all of us in the same way.

There still chance some surprise candidate within the Democrat party takes us all by surprise, very much like Obama did back in the day.

I don't believe that Biden did a very good job on economy (and also on employment and inflation), but at this point I don't want to enter a debate on this topic. My grudge with Biden is mostly regarding foreign policy, his own health, the way Hunter Biden scandal was handled and finally the way he imposed additional regulations on shale oil producers (which resulted in crude prices going up by 2x). I have my own reasons to believe that a Republican president would have handled each of these issues in a better way.

[bittraffic]

Biden is going to lose the race as Trump is really moving up fast gaining lots of supporters from each state. The media is starting to change its reporting which the people obviously wouldn't vote the old man who can't even remember where to go after speaking in a conference.

Really. There is no way people would vote someone who would lead a war at such state of mind. Let the old man rest and just MAGA.

At 77 years old, I wouldn't call Trump young

Both candidates are pretty old to be honest, and most probably one of them will be the next president.

I wonder if any country has a maximum age for their elected leaders, they do have a minimum age though.

It's also true Trump is old but he doesn't have Dementia.  If the Democrat party though will still want to govern, it will be harder for them as it's all failing already. Too much had come out from Biden's camp about Hunter's laptop and business deal which Biden had lied.

They will leave it to Trump for Trump to catch the crumbling economy. Trump winning the election in 2024 will also be a disaster for him. Even for Kenedy if he wins, there is just too much of failure that they already used that UFO card to divert attention.

[nullama]

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It's also true Trump is old but he doesn't have Dementia.  If the Democrat party though will still want to govern, it will be harder for them as it's all failing already. Too much had come out from Biden's camp about Hunter's laptop and business deal which Biden had lied.

They will leave it to Trump for Trump to catch the crumbling economy. Trump winning the election in 2024 will also be a disaster for him. Even for Kenedy if he wins, there is just too much of failure that they already used that UFO card to divert attention.

These are unprecedented times. There is even the possibility that Trump would be elected while in jail. That would be something incredible, but it kinda fit his persona in a way. I reckon lots of people would vote for him just so that happens.

Not sure what the outcome would be of this election, but there will be lots of things going on probably.

[bbc.reporter]

Guys who are saying how bad Biden is and how he's unsuitable for being elected, how can you comment on the current odds?





Do you think all of them bettors are stupid and they don't know what you know? Do you think you are aware of some hidden truth that others aren't aware of? Well, that's great. Place your bets on Trump then. Today the odds are good for you.

Only if you don't want to lose your bets, don't do that. That's my advice.

Why are you angrily forcing people to bet on Trump? No one in this thread knows anything better than what we read from the news and speculate what might really be happening. Also, the smart bettors would only place their bets after each of the political parties have declared their nominees. Trump presently with those odds is certainly not a very good bet considering that he is also being indicted with various cases.

[Sithara007]

Why are you angrily forcing people to bet on Trump? No one in this thread knows anything better than what we read from the news and speculate what might really be happening. Also, the smart bettors would only place their bets after each of the political parties have declared their nominees. Trump presently with those odds is certainly not a very good bet considering that he is also being indicted with various cases.

I hate to say this, but I can't find another alternative to Donald Trump for the Republican nomination. As far as Democrat nomination is concerned, there is minimal resistance from Kennedy. But Trump is not facing any opposition so far within the GOP. Obviously Ron DeSantis announced his candidature with much hype and fanfare, but he sank without any trace. Others like Vivek Ramaswamy are polling 1-2% of the primary vote. One thing is sure. 2024 will be one of the shittiest ever presidential elections in the history of the United States.

[Hispo]

Why are you angrily forcing people to bet on Trump? No one in this thread knows anything better than what we read from the news and speculate what might really be happening. Also, the smart bettors would only place their bets after each of the political parties have declared their nominees. Trump presently with those odds is certainly not a very good bet considering that he is also being indicted with various cases.

I hate to say this, but I can't find another alternative to Donald Trump for the Republican nomination. As far as Democrat nomination is concerned, there is minimal resistance from Kennedy. But Trump is not facing any opposition so far within the GOP. Obviously Ron DeSantis announced his candidature with much hype and fanfare, but he sank without any trace. Others like Vivek Ramaswamy are polling 1-2% of the primary vote. One thing is sure. 2024 will be one of the shittiest ever presidential elections in the history of the United States.

Whether we like it or now, it is obvious Trump is going to get away with this and take the Republican nomination for himself. People was hyped for De Santis at first, getting some donators, even. But looking are the recent polling it is obvious that somehow the guy managed to spoil his own chances.

I read he even had to cut people out his campaign team. Not a good signal, obviously.

At this point, I don't even know why people like Pence and other Republican runners even try to win if they know how strongly Trump has influenced on the American people.

DeSantis and Pence do not even dare to mention Trump's name anymore during interviews.

[uneng]

At this point, I don't even know why people like Pence and other Republican runners even try to win if they know how strongly Trump has influenced on the American people.

It's simply for vanity. Even though they have no chances and are aware about it, it's still an opportunity to appear on the media with some frequency, what means people will talk about them and recognize their faces with more importance on an eventual senate or government's run futurely. Most of these potential candidates appearing on the media are there for marketing reasons solely, as they know to not have any chances in a dispute for presidency, although they are also aware to appear right now can be a worthful boost for their personal businesses and professional careers...

[Hispo]

At this point, I don't even know why people like Pence and other Republican runners even try to win if they know how strongly Trump has influenced on the American people.

It's simply for vanity. Even though they have no chances and are aware about it, it's still an opportunity to appear on the media with some frequency, what means people will talk about them and recognize their faces with more importance on an eventual senate or government's run futurely. Most of these potential candidates appearing on the media are there for marketing reasons solely, as they know to not have any chances in a dispute for presidency, although they are also aware to appear right now can be a worthful boost for their personal businesses and professional careers...

Besides of it, perhaps they could actually pocket some money from donors. De Santis initially managed to stockpile a good amount of financial support (it is quite less now) and I assume both Pence and Halley have a attracted some Republican businesspeople with some spare money for political antics.

I won't matter anyways, as we get closer to voting day the donors will realize who the actual Republican nominee will be. At this point, It would take something extraordinary to happen for Trump to be unable to secure his place in 2024.

Though, I have said before that Judges and prosecutors won't dare to go as far as exclude him from the race, that would certainly unleash much unrest in USA and the civil society, one does not need to be a political analist to guess that.

[OgNasty]

At this point, I don't even know why people like Pence and other Republican runners even try to win if they know how strongly Trump has influenced on the American people.

It's simply for vanity. Even though they have no chances and are aware about it, it's still an opportunity to appear on the media with some frequency, what means people will talk about them and recognize their faces with more importance on an eventual senate or government's run futurely. Most of these potential candidates appearing on the media are there for marketing reasons solely, as they know to not have any chances in a dispute for presidency, although they are also aware to appear right now can be a worthful boost for their personal businesses and professional careers...

Besides of it, perhaps they could actually pocket some money from donors. De Santis initially managed to stockpile a good amount of financial support (it is quite less now) and I assume both Pence and Halley have a attracted some Republican businesspeople with some spare money for political antics.

I won't matter anyways, as we get closer to voting day the donors will realize who the actual Republican nominee will be. At this point, It would take something extraordinary to happen for Trump to be unable to secure his place in 2024.

Though, I have said before that Judges and prosecutors won't dare to go as far as exclude him from the race, that would certainly unleash much unrest in USA and the civil society, one does not need to be a political analist to guess that.

It’s definitely to pocket money from donors. Period. These politicians hire their families to work on their campaigns and they use their friends’ businesses as vendors for anything their campaign needs. It’s like getting a hundred million dollars to hand out to friends, family, and business associates. Obviously Mike Pence knows he doesn’t have any chance at all of winning. It’s all about the money.

[alegotardo]

Whether we like it or now, it is obvious Trump is going to get away with this and take the Republican nomination for himself. People was hyped for De Santis at first, getting some donators, even. But looking are the recent polling it is obvious that somehow the guy managed to spoil his own chances.

I am not an American, but I believe that Donald Trump is the protagonist of one of the biggest institutional constraints of democracy in the United States due to the fact that he is the first former American president to be criminally accused in the history of the country.

In addition to the accusations in the case of secret documents taken from the White House, which is certainly the most serious case that weighs against him, Trump was still summoned to appear in court yesterday to answer for four other crimes.
1. conspiracy against the country;
2. conspiracy to violate civil rights;
3. conspiracy to attempt to obstruct official proceedings; It is
4. Obstruction of an official procedure, in the case of non-recognition of elections in the process.

You know what's worse than all of this? It's just that if he manages to launch his candidacy and be accepted, which certainly should happen... it's very likely that he will win the elections. Or my vision as a foreigner is very distorted!?