Showdown: Trump Vs Haley. Bitcoin betting on the 2024 US Presidential Election

[nullama]

Guys, you need to check this:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1694886846050771321

Donald Trump set Twitter on fire with his mugshot tweet. 1.5 million likes and 215 million views until now. Elon Musk posted multiple times, including a tweet that claimed that there are approximately 10 million views per hour for this image. I am still not sure how all this drama will work out for Donald Trump in the end, but Trump has received a big boost as a result of all this.

Here is another Tweet from Elon:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1694903930981884041
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Yeah, at the end of the day, Trump will continue to use this to fuel his campaign.

It actually fits his narrative very well. And it's an interesting story for people, many will want to participate in this and make him president, because it's like a hero's journey basically. People love stories like this.

It doesn't matter if it's right or wrong really. It's all about how people feel with the story.

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[TwitchySeal]

Guys, you need to check this:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1694886846050771321

Donald Trump set Twitter on fire with his mugshot tweet. 1.5 million likes and 215 million views until now. Elon Musk posted multiple times, including a tweet that claimed that there are approximately 10 million views per hour for this image. I am still not sure how all this drama will work out for Donald Trump in the end, but Trump has received a big boost as a result of all this.

Here is another Tweet from Elon:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1694903930981884041

Cool.  A picture of Donald Trump surrendering himself in mspaint that says "NEVER SURRENDER"

[Sithara007]

Cool.  A picture of Donald Trump surrendering himself in mspaint that says "NEVER SURRENDER"

LOL.. what you want him to do other than surrendering? Pickup a gun and fight with the law enforcement officials. I have a feeling that all this drama is going to be costly for the Democrats. For sure it has fired up the conservatives, and a lot of Republican voters who previously preferred either DeSantis or Pence are now rooting for Trump. I can clearly see a lot of sympathy for Trump on various social media channels. The question being asked is why he is being arrested and sent to jail, while Hunter Biden is being protected despite having committed far more serious crimes.

[TwitchySeal]

LOL.. what you want him to do other than surrendering? Pickup a gun and fight with the law enforcement officials.

I want him to quit spreading hate like peanut butter and quit telling his cult that he won the 2020 election.  He's just making everyone pissed off at everyone else.
Was just pointing out the irony that he posted "NEVER SURRENDER" under a picture of him surrendering.  It's funny.  Not serious.

The question being asked is why he is being arrested and sent to jail, while Hunter Biden is being protected despite having committed far more serious crimes.

Trump literally showed classified documents (that he shouldn't have had, after his security clearance was revoked) showing US military options for attacking Iran to some guy during an interview for a book at his country club.

He hid dozens of boxes of classified documents from his own lawyer and then asked his lawyer search where they used be and sign a sworn statement that all the documents had been returned to the government.

And then there's the whole trying to stay in office after losing his reelection stuff...

What did Bidens drug addicted son that's never been in office or a public figure do that was worse than any of the above?

[bbc.reporter]

The sympathy for Trump is certainly because of how the Biden administration is running America and what the Democrats are presently doing.



Biden staffers met with Special Counsel Jack Smith’s aides before Trump indictment

The White House counsel’s office met with a top aide to Special Counsel Jack Smith just weeks before he brought charges against former President Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents — raising serious concerns about coordinated legal efforts aimed at President Biden’s likely opponent in 2024.

Source https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/biden-staffers-met-with-special-counsel-jack-smiths-aides-before-trump-indictment/



Also, Trump is unpredictable. He is not a traditional Republican and he also might give his support to Robert Kennedy Jr. if the cases against him does not legally allow him to be the Republican presidential candidate.

[Sithara007]

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Also, Trump is unpredictable. He is not a traditional Republican and he also might give his support to Robert Kennedy Jr. if the cases against him does not legally allow him to be the Republican presidential candidate.

LOL.. and how is it even possible for Robert Kennedy Jr. to run as a candidate in the 2024 POTUS elections? He is far behind Biden in the Democrat primary opinion polls. The only way for him to participate in POTUS 2024 is to run as an independent candidate. And in that case, even with Trump's support he may not even cross 20% voter support. And the GOP votes will be split, resulting in an easy win for Biden and 4 more years of Democrat rule. Initial 4 years didn't caused a lot of damage, since Biden could not nominate many judges to the SCOTUS. The next 4 years might be different, so the Republican voters need to think about it.

[TwitchySeal]

The sympathy for Trump is certainly because of how the Biden administration is running America and what the Democrats are presently doing.



Biden staffers met with Special Counsel Jack Smith’s aides before Trump indictment

The White House counsel’s office met with a top aide to Special Counsel Jack Smith just weeks before he brought charges against former President Trump for allegedly mishandling classified documents — raising serious concerns about coordinated legal efforts aimed at President Biden’s likely opponent in 2024.

Source https://nypost.com/2023/08/26/biden-staffers-met-with-special-counsel-jack-smiths-aides-before-trump-indictment/

No, the sympathy for Trump is because people are gullible enough to believe the continuous lies of Trump, MAGA republicans and right wing media like the NY Post.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-attacks-special-counsel-report-investigator-meeting-white-house-rcna102149

Jack Smith sent someone to question a White House career employee.  A White House lawyer was present for the meeting because that's what lawyers do when someone that works for their employer is questioned by the FBI.  

It's sad how all it takes to get the full attention from a former president and congress is an article in a tabloid that they oh so very much want to be true.

[nullama]

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LOL.. what you want him to do other than surrendering? Pickup a gun and fight with the law enforcement officials. I have a feeling that all this drama is going to be costly for the Democrats. For sure it has fired up the conservatives, and a lot of Republican voters who previously preferred either DeSantis or Pence are now rooting for Trump. I can clearly see a lot of sympathy for Trump on various social media channels. The question being asked is why he is being arrested and sent to jail, while Hunter Biden is being protected despite having committed far more serious crimes.

I think that at the end of the day this whole thing will work in favor of Trump.

I can see a president being elected from jail.

[Sithara007]

I think that at the end of the day this whole thing will work in favor of Trump.

I can see a president being elected from jail.

Just check the opinion polls, and it is very clear. The latest opinion poll for POTUS 2024 elections was released by Economist/YouGov yesterday. Trump is leading Biden by 1 point (44-43). Of all the polls released during the last 7-8 days, Trump is leading in three polls, while Biden is leading the other two by one point. I am still not sure whether the lead is going to hold, but obviously the mugshot drama seems to have helped him to stay in the media limelight. And there are talks about getting Vivek Ramaswamy as his running mate. If it happens, then it would be another game changer.

[FanEagle]

I mean the "mugshot" itself is a lie lol, that's not a real mugshot from anywhere, he just put a picture of himself in front of a grey background and I bet that someone did it on photoshop for him as well and he is using that as a mugshot.

I would love it if the mugshot would end up getting a lot more interest, it would be quite important because at the end of the day we would see it change on the long run and his real mugshot would not get this much attention, I mean it would but not in a good way. This dude should have been locked up already, the fact that he is still out and walking free makes me question the integrity of the law in the USA. Not that it wasn't obvious before, but it looks like what might be illegal for you, may not be illegal for rich and powerful.

[nullama]

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Just check the opinion polls, and it is very clear. The latest opinion poll for POTUS 2024 elections was released by Economist/YouGov yesterday. Trump is leading Biden by 1 point (44-43). Of all the polls released during the last 7-8 days, Trump is leading in three polls, while Biden is leading the other two by one point. I am still not sure whether the lead is going to hold, but obviously the mugshot drama seems to have helped him to stay in the media limelight. And there are talks about getting Vivek Ramaswamy as his running mate. If it happens, then it would be another game changer.

Interesting.

So it looks like Trump is on an upwards trajectory at the time, he was close but still slightly below, but that recently has changed, and it looks like it's continuing upwards.

Still a lot of time until the election, and many things can happen, but certainly interesting.

[Sithara007]

Interesting.

So it looks like Trump is on an upwards trajectory at the time, he was close but still slightly below, but that recently has changed, and it looks like it's continuing upwards.

Still a lot of time until the election, and many things can happen, but certainly interesting.

There are two things going on here. First of all, Trump got a boost from the mugshot drama and then Biden's approval is at historical lows. Job Approval is at -12 to -16 now, which is much worse that the ratings that Trump had when he was in power. One major contributing factor to Biden's continued poor show is the rising crude oil prices. When Trump was in power, crude oil was trading at $40-$50 per barrel. It has gone up by 2x now. And this is going to have a direct impact on the retail inflation inside the United States.

[nullama]

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There are two things going on here. First of all, Trump got a boost from the mugshot drama and then Biden's approval is at historical lows. Job Approval is at -12 to -16 now, which is much worse that the ratings that Trump had when he was in power. One major contributing factor to Biden's continued poor show is the rising crude oil prices. When Trump was in power, crude oil was trading at $40-$50 per barrel. It has gone up by 2x now. And this is going to have a direct impact on the retail inflation inside the United States.

Good points.

Still there's a lot of time for the election, and there's probably going to be a lot of things happening from now until then.

My guess is that Trump will continue to gain more momentum with a continuous series of controversies, and Biden will slowly continue to lose ground.

It will be definitely an interesting thing to watch.

[TwitchySeal]

Job Approval is at -12 to -16 now, which is much worse that the ratings that Trump had when he was in power.

Why do you keep saying this?  I think it's the third time?  Biden has had pretty much the same Job approval as Trump for the past year+.  If anything he's averaged a little better.  Obviously it's not good, but why keep repeating that it's worse than Trump was?



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/?ex_cid=rrpromo

That's Bidens approval compared to Trump for each day while in the White House ^^^

And here is how the polls are looking for Trump today:

[LUCKMCFLY]

Interesting.

So it looks like Trump is on an upwards trajectory at the time, he was close but still slightly below, but that recently has changed, and it looks like it's continuing upwards.

Still a lot of time until the election, and many things can happen, but certainly interesting.

There are two things going on here. First of all, Trump got a boost from the mugshot drama and then Biden's approval is at historical lows. Job Approval is at -12 to -16 now, which is much worse that the ratings that Trump had when he was in power. One major contributing factor to Biden's continued poor show is the rising crude oil prices. When Trump was in power, crude oil was trading at $40-$50 per barrel. It has gone up by 2x now. And this is going to have a direct impact on the retail inflation inside the United States.

Well, these Indices are very Impressive in terms of things with the USA, we all know that the USA is a country where figures are quite strong. for some encouraging for others not, we hear people who have seen that the job index for the USA may have Decreased , but the reason is very simple, there is a lot of labor, that is, there are people who are entering the USA, for That reason is that we see that on some occasions before any trade, opcm for example washing Dishes , cleaning bathrooms in a tour, it was paid 18-25usd an hour, currently due to so much immigration the Hour is being turned off at 10-12usd, so that there are many undocumented people who enter a Country where they do that job for less, so in this order of ideas things are quite strong, and this is quite relevant when it comes to emphasizing when the Odds are strong , then Biden is responsible for this ? Maybe yes , because it has somewhat Flexible Policies, but if we Start to see, immigration is Needed in the USA , because they didn't do it a lot, now there are Quite a few who do it, Besides the Pace of life in the USA is inflationary, a residence is for or 900 usd to 1500 usd and that's just a room , depending on the side where it is , and Everything is a great Transformation in pure work, it is where more people come to work very hard.

Of course, just as there are Immigrants who are good , who bring labor , there are also parasites that do harm, that is something that we cannot cover, it is to share the sun with one finger, so in this order of ideas, for me What Trump did was very good, that he only allowed people to enter his country with a VISA, and legally, nothing to go by trucks or things like that, this is something strong, because it is not known if Biden or Trump will follow, because if rump is Mounted in a presidency again, he will have no regard for the number of laws he will launch to get those people out of the country, or he will Simply Disable all the permits Granted.

[Sithara007]

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Of course, just as there are Immigrants who are good , who bring labor , there are also parasites that do harm, that is something that we cannot cover, it is to share the sun with one finger, so in this order of ideas, for me What Trump did was very good, that he only allowed people to enter his country with a VISA, and legally, nothing to go by trucks or things like that, this is something strong, because it is not known if Biden or Trump will follow, because if rump is Mounted in a presidency again, he will have no regard for the number of laws he will launch to get those people out of the country, or he will Simply Disable all the permits Granted.

American immigration system is utter crap. In case a highly skilled migrant wants to migrate to the United States, he has to wait for many months, or even years in the queue. On the other hand, migrant caravans face no such obstacles and tens of thousands cross the border at any given time. The immigrant inflow reduced when Trump constructed the "wall" at the US-Mexico border, but as soon as Biden came to power he made it ineffective. I am not sure what Trump will be able to do even if he gets elected as the POTUS. As long as the birth-right citizenship loophole exists, this inflow will continue unbated.

[TwitchySeal]

. The immigrant inflow reduced when Trump constructed the "wall" at the US-Mexico border, but as soon as Biden came to power he made it ineffective.

The border between Mexico and the US is 1,954 miles.

Under Trump about 400 miles of fencing that was built under Obama was replaced or repaired by new fencing and about 40 miles of actual border wall was built where there was no previous barrier.

[Sithara007]

The border between Mexico and the US is 1,954 miles.

Under Trump about 400 miles of fencing that was built under Obama was replaced or repaired by new fencing and about 40 miles of actual border wall was built where there was no previous barrier.

Trump closed the gaps in previous fencing and strengthened the most vulnerable sections:

But then, Biden paused the work as soon as he came to power. And the Mexican president (Andrés Manuel López Obrador) was full of praises for exactly the same reason:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/10/biden-lpez-obrador-vow-tackle-immigration/

“You, President Biden, you are the first president of the United States in a very long time that has not built even one meter of wall,” López Obrador said. “And we thank you for that, sir — although some might not like it, although the conservatives don’t like it.”

And the number of illegal crossings shot up immediately after that:

[TwitchySeal]

The border between Mexico and the US is 1,954 miles.

Under Trump about 400 miles of fencing that was built under Obama was replaced or repaired by new fencing and about 40 miles of actual border wall was built where there was no previous barrier.

Trump closed the gaps in previous fencing and strengthened the most vulnerable sections:

But then, Biden paused the work as soon as he came to power. And the Mexican president (Andrés Manuel López Obrador) was full of praises for exactly the same reason:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/10/biden-lpez-obrador-vow-tackle-immigration/

“You, President Biden, you are the first president of the United States in a very long time that has not built even one meter of wall,” López Obrador said. “And we thank you for that, sir — although some might not like it, although the conservatives don’t like it.”

And the number of illegal crossings shot up immediately after that:

So Trumps wall was working great and then when Biden became president it just stopped working.  Does that really make sense to you?  Do you think it's a magic wall? 

The reality is that the broken US immigration system can only be fixed by congress.  Neither Trump nor Biden have/had the power to fix it.  If any president were to blame it would be LBJ or Nixon for destabilizing Latin America 40 years ago.  Executive orders may have some short term affect, but they can't solve the underlying issue.  And the wall is nothing but a gimmick that Trump used to excite the mouth breathing xenophobes that worship him.  

[STT]

LOL.. and how is it even possible for Robert Kennedy Jr. to run as a candidate in the 2024 POTUS elections? He is far behind Biden in the Democrat primary opinion polls.

I'd state it the other way round, its entirely necessary there is opposition to a candidate to ensure the best person is chosen for the job.  To blindly go with Biden because he has the numbers already would be a weakness to do so, it also makes the Republican victory more likely at that point.  Untested strength is a vulnerability seems a fair conclusion imo, the process is this way for a reason and part of it is discovery via discussion and votes shifting along the way.  Biden himself was not great in the polls originally, I didn't think he'd end up running personally.