Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[Jating]

we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.

And I think that will be the issue. That's the motive of the clause, to give Garcia a hard time.
After the weigh-ins, he should preserve that wait until fight night which means a lot of things. Powerless, stressed, and more. The effects will be lighter punches, exhaustion, and could easily get irritated which Davis could take advantage of. It sounds unfair but Davis' camp is using the rule book on their side especially knowing Garcia's body build is way too big for that weight class.
We will definitely see a KO here. Either Garcia will shock Davis because it didn't affect him or he will be lying in the mat because of the wittiness of his opponent using the "clause" as their upper hand.

I think that is the main goal on the camp of Tank Davis, they see Ryan as a very big 135 lbs so they have to insert that into the clause, that he can only add 10 lbs for rehydration, no more no less.

So they just want it to be fair for Davis, although for fans, it seems that Tank wanted to take advantage of Ryan Garcia. But it's a done deal already, Ryan is fine and definitely still has the height and reach advantage. Power might be the same, as well as the speed. So maybe whomever make the first mistake, but suffer that knock/down or out.

It's fair enough for both camps because both of them used a favor as Ryan Garcia only wanted 136 catchweight fight instead of 135, so Davis's camp also made a rehydration clause because even if 136 is just a 1 pound shy, that will still matter for a guy like Garcia who is much taller and that is why Davis also got his own rule to overrule Garcia on that one. Now, as we can see, Davis have much more edge and probably one of the important factors why he can dominate Garcia as the latter is very much dehydrated.

And they are really fighting it out even in the negotiations, and it seems Davis is the clear winner. But as Ryan has said in public, he isn't bother by the 10 lbs rehydration so he allowed that to be included in the contract itself. So maybe Davis has now the edge, but Ryan still thinks that he can pull it off.  But he is like 3:1 underdog in this fight though. I think a ML bet for Ryan is already very attractive to us. Even the Over and the Under (7.5) is already good in my opinion. The good thing is that we can already see the odds and make our own speculation and bet on it base on our analysis.

[Kemarit]

We don't have an upcoming well-known fight right now but we have a boxing match this coming March 18, well I am going to leave it here unless anyone is interested in a certain Discussion about the fight, and this is the we also got a Filipino boxer in the Co-Main event

Ramirez vs. Rosado

Saturday 03.18.2023 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: Golden Boy Promotions
Venue: The Walter Pyramid
Location: Long Beach, California



MAIN EVENT

Gilberto Ramirez VS Gabriel Rosado

CO-MAIN EVENT

Joseph Diaz VS Mercito Gesta

MAIN CARD

Oscar Duarte VS Alex Martin
Eric Tudor VS Damoni Cato-Cain

All information was from TAPOLOGY

Ok, so they sparred a lot according to Zurdo, more than 100 rounds and they are friends inside and outside of the gym. But they will have to fight it out for real and for their career. I think though that Rosado is no longer in his prime.

On the other hand, Ramirez will have to bounce back after suffering a lost against Bivol.

And I think he choose his sparring partner here because he knows that he can beat him easy, in short this is a tune up for him to get back his confidence and put his name on the list again.

[Baofeng]

Ok so Beterbiev vs Callum Smith has been ordered by the WBC next, although it's going to be a short 3 weeks negotiation as the ordered is up to April 11. If there are no contract between the two sides, then it will go on a purse bid.

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

[Japinat]

we don't know their ulterior motives but maybe they are seeing some advantages for their boxer. we can't really tell what they are thinking on this matter, as they may have strategy how to go around inside the ring without feeling drained or of that sort. well, we will see if this will really help Garcia's upcoming fight. but a big deviation of weight after rehydration may give issues to his body while fighting. so better stay on his comfortable weight where his body is not being forced to.

And I think that will be the issue. That's the motive of the clause, to give Garcia a hard time.
After the weigh-ins, he should preserve that wait until fight night which means a lot of things. Powerless, stressed, and more. The effects will be lighter punches, exhaustion, and could easily get irritated which Davis could take advantage of. It sounds unfair but Davis' camp is using the rule book on their side especially knowing Garcia's body build is way too big for that weight class.
We will definitely see a KO here. Either Garcia will shock Davis because it didn't affect him or he will be lying in the mat because of the wittiness of his opponent using the "clause" as their upper hand.

I think that is the main goal on the camp of Tank Davis, they see Ryan as a very big 135 lbs so they have to insert that into the clause, that he can only add 10 lbs for rehydration, no more no less.

So they just want it to be fair for Davis, although for fans, it seems that Tank wanted to take advantage of Ryan Garcia. But it's a done deal already, Ryan is fine and definitely still has the height and reach advantage. Power might be the same, as well as the speed. So maybe whomever make the first mistake, but suffer that knock/down or out.

It's fair enough for both camps because both of them used a favor as Ryan Garcia only wanted 136 catchweight fight instead of 135, so Davis's camp also made a rehydration clause because even if 136 is just a 1 pound shy, that will still matter for a guy like Garcia who is much taller and that is why Davis also got his own rule to overrule Garcia on that one. Now, as we can see, Davis have much more edge and probably one of the important factors why he can dominate Garcia as the latter is very much dehydrated.

And they are really fighting it out even in the negotiations, and it seems Davis is the clear winner. But as Ryan has said in public, he isn't bother by the 10 lbs rehydration so he allowed that to be included in the contract itself. So maybe Davis has now the edge, but Ryan still thinks that he can pull it off.  But he is like 3:1 underdog in this fight though. I think a ML bet for Ryan is already very attractive to us. Even the Over and the Under (7.5) is already good in my opinion. The good thing is that we can already see the odds and make our own speculation and bet on it base on our analysis.

I agree that an ML bet for Ryan Garcia is already enough profits for us because he's not really that behind Tank's level, he can still boast that about that KO punch he possess as I believe this will be a fight of who will be the first successful boxer to land their vicious KO punches, and of course, the first one to kneel or go down will be defeated as that's just hard to flip.

But for Ryan's mindset that he's not really bothered by the 10 pounds rehydration clause, he is clearly bluffing as their camp even make it in a catchweight bout to give Ryan an edge and now he's saying that 10 lbs rehydration is nothing? I really doubt that. And saying that they allowed that clause to be included is far from reality, of course they have no choice but to agree with Tank's camp about that specific clause because they already asked for a catchweight bout, and if they won't sign, it's their loss not Tank's.

[Jawhead999]

Ok so Beterbiev vs Callum Smith has been ordered by the WBC next, although it's going to be a short 3 weeks negotiation as the ordered is up to April 11. If there are no contract between the two sides, then it will go on a purse bid.

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

Yeah Callum Smith only lost against Canelo in his whole career and he's currently at 3rd position on light heavyweight boxing rank, so it's should be a good fight. However it's really crazy how boxrec give a huge rate to Bivol after he beat Canelo, Beterbiev's point is really small compared to Bivol. If there's an unification fight Bivol vs Beterbiev, Beterbiev might become an underdog even though he's carrying 3 belts.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_heavyweight

[yazher]

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

More likely he will just gonna bulldozed by Beterbiev because he is not that strong enough to take his punches. I don't know what else Beterbiev needs when he already got the best requirements to fight with Bivol. But still, when it comes to a super fight such as this one, it turns out the negotiation is so hard that it will gonna be taken so long before they can even decide whether to approve the fight or not. Anyway, Beterbiev doesn't really care whoever he's next opponent will be, as long as they are in the same weight, he will demolish him.

[mirakal]

Ok so Beterbiev vs Callum Smith has been ordered by the WBC next, although it's going to be a short 3 weeks negotiation as the ordered is up to April 11. If there are no contract between the two sides, then it will go on a purse bid.

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

Yeah Callum Smith only lost against Canelo in his whole career and he's currently at 3rd position on light heavyweight boxing rank, so it's should be a good fight. However it's really crazy how boxrec give a huge rate to Bivol after he beat Canelo, Beterbiev's point is really small compared to Bivol. If there's an unification fight Bivol vs Beterbiev, Beterbiev might become an underdog even though he's carrying 3 belts.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_heavyweight

I am more surprised that Callum Smith is situated in the #3 spot while Zurdo Ramirez was in the fourth spot since the latter got more wins and KOs than Callum Smith yet the latter was behind the rankings of boxrec.com. Regarding Bivol's points, it's somehow expected that his points will overcome Beterbiev's because that fight against Canelo Alvarez really hyped his name even if he was the champion and Canelo was just a challenger to his belt.
And if ever a unification fight will materialize between Bivol and Beterbiev, I seriously doubt that Bivol will be the favorite because Beterbiev got more factors and edge.

[Natalim]

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

More likely he will just gonna bulldozed by Beterbiev because he is not that strong enough to take his punches. I don't know what else Beterbiev needs when he already got the best requirements to fight with Bivol. But still, when it comes to a super fight such as this one, it turns out the negotiation is so hard that it will gonna be taken so long before they can even decide whether to approve the fight or not. Anyway, Beterbiev doesn't really care whoever he's next opponent will be, as long as they are in the same weight, he will demolish him.

I guess he needs to fight Bivol, as he is not getting any younger, so at least he should have a big fight before retiring. Callum Smith is tall but weak; he was beaten by Canelo easily, just like what Canelo did to Caleb Plant. Maybe Beterbiev has to consider challenging himself more, and that is by fighting a boxer against whom we aren't sure he will win.

[Getmon]

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

More likely he will just gonna bulldozed by Beterbiev because he is not that strong enough to take his punches. I don't know what else Beterbiev needs when he already got the best requirements to fight with Bivol. But still, when it comes to a super fight such as this one, it turns out the negotiation is so hard that it will gonna be taken so long before they can even decide whether to approve the fight or not. Anyway, Beterbiev doesn't really care whoever he's next opponent will be, as long as they are in the same weight, he will demolish him.

I guess he needs to fight Bivol, as he is not getting any younger, so at least he should have a big fight before retiring. Callum Smith is tall but weak; he was beaten by Canelo easily, just like what Canelo did to Caleb Plant. Maybe Beterbiev has to consider challenging himself more, and that is by fighting a boxer against whom we aren't sure he will win.

When Beterbiev was able to face and defeat the two other division champions, how can we question his ability to fight difficult opponents? The belt of Bivol is the only one left that Beterbiev does not own. Although I do not question Bivol, Beterbiev unquestionably has the superior and more difficult fight. Beterbiev will kill Saul Alvarez because the Mexican would be too small to face him. Alvarez chose the one belt only Bivol because he thought it would be easier than Beterbiev. We already hear that Beterbiev and Bivol want to match each other, so I guess the problem lies with their promoters.

[danherbias07]

I agree that an ML bet for Ryan Garcia is already enough profits for us because he's not really that behind Tank's level, he can still boast that about that KO punch he possess as I believe this will be a fight of who will be the first successful boxer to land their vicious KO punches, and of course, the first one to kneel or go down will be defeated as that's just hard to flip.

Both strong chins with scary power punches. I bet the ring will explode in shouts of the fans once their fists meets their faces. 

But for Ryan's mindset that he's not really bothered by the 10 pounds rehydration clause, he is clearly bluffing as their camp even make it in a catchweight bout to give Ryan an edge and now he's saying that 10 lbs rehydration is nothing? I really doubt that. And saying that they allowed that clause to be included is far from reality, of course they have no choice but to agree with Tank's camp about that specific clause because they already asked for a catchweight bout, and if they won't sign, it's their loss not Tank's.

He has to look strong in front of him, don't show any weaknesses, every boxer does that. But I know it will show once the fight begins. Surely, Ryan Garcia's camp will try to rehydrate him as fast as they could after the final weigh-in (before they come up the ring) and try to cover it.
Tank's camp though might have a new plan to be aggressive in the first round and take advantage of it.
If that will happen, this will be a rare view as we will see a champion being the attacker and this is not the Tank's forte so it will also be new to him.
He always starts slow but I am predicting it will be a different case when the bell rings.
Did you guys watch the press conference? Tank is saying Garcia only has the left, that is all he can bring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFK2Dq78Cps

[Yaunfitda]

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

More likely he will just gonna bulldozed by Beterbiev because he is not that strong enough to take his punches. I don't know what else Beterbiev needs when he already got the best requirements to fight with Bivol. But still, when it comes to a super fight such as this one, it turns out the negotiation is so hard that it will gonna be taken so long before they can even decide whether to approve the fight or not. Anyway, Beterbiev doesn't really care whoever he's next opponent will be, as long as they are in the same weight, he will demolish him.

I guess he needs to fight Bivol, as he is not getting any younger, so at least he should have a big fight before retiring. Callum Smith is tall but weak; he was beaten by Canelo easily, just like what Canelo did to Caleb Plant. Maybe Beterbiev has to consider challenging himself more, and that is by fighting a boxer against whom we aren't sure he will win.

Yes, another great fight that we all waiting to see, if and only if their respective promoters will just sit up and talk because both of them wanted to fight. I agree that Beterbiev is not getting young and he is going to face a prime Bivol if ever they will in the future.

Callum Smith? Nah, I think he will be worst that Yarde in my opinion, If Yarde was able to stay with Beterbiev and then fell on the latter rounds, it might be a complete opposite for Smith as once he feel the power of Beterbiev early, he might go down that easy.

[freedomgo]

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

More likely he will just gonna bulldozed by Beterbiev because he is not that strong enough to take his punches. I don't know what else Beterbiev needs when he already got the best requirements to fight with Bivol. But still, when it comes to a super fight such as this one, it turns out the negotiation is so hard that it will gonna be taken so long before they can even decide whether to approve the fight or not. Anyway, Beterbiev doesn't really care whoever he's next opponent will be, as long as they are in the same weight, he will demolish him.

I guess he needs to fight Bivol, as he is not getting any younger, so at least he should have a big fight before retiring. Callum Smith is tall but weak; he was beaten by Canelo easily, just like what Canelo did to Caleb Plant. Maybe Beterbiev has to consider challenging himself more, and that is by fighting a boxer against whom we aren't sure he will win.

Not guess but he should've pick Bivol instead of Beterbiev because Bivol will be his redemption if ever he can rule an upset in the fight, it might be hard for him considering that Canelo just beat him easily but he should endure it and give an upset towards the champion if he still wanted his name to be in the top of this weight class. Fighting against Beterbiev is nonsense because I really don't believe that he a slightest chance against the 3-belt champ. Callum Smith picked an opponent that will end his career much earlier and will add an embarrassment to his existence in the industry, that's for sure.

[Baofeng]

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

[stadus]

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

In my case, I'm not also sure why these governing bodies keep on ordering such fights for the interim belts to have interim champs when in-fact they are not giving the champions a mandatory title defense especially in the welterweight. They should just focus on giving the existing champions a mandatory title defense because the division is already stacked up at the moment, we have lots of good boxers that is not yet given a chance to be a champion because they are just letting the title holders to keep the belts for a long time while ducking some fights. And now another fight for an interim belt? That's just nonsense, IMO.

[LUCKMCFLY]

...

And something to spice it up:

You owe us some money’ – John Fury sends warning to Jake Paul over Tommy Fury fight bet

Fury sealed a split decision victory over Paul in Saudi Arabia on Sunday night to settle a feud that had raged for almost two years.

Prior to fight night, the YouTuber-turned boxer raised the stakes, offering to give his rival his entire cut of the fight purse if he could become the first man to beat him.

John Fury eagerly agreed to those terms on his son’s behalf before the former Love Island star crossed the stage to shake hands and seal the deal.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2023/03/01/john-fury-sends-warning-to-jake-paul-over-tommy-fury-fight-bet-18369562/?ito=newsnow-feed

Jake Paul has to pay that bet, even if there is not a written contract the terms were extremely simple and they both agreed to it, and if he refuses I think Tommy Fury has enough grounds to take this to court and win, and at that point most likely he will have to pay for the lawyers expenses and the interests accumulated during that time too, so he better pays up, besides if he refuses this will be a hit to his reputation as we will know his word is worth nothing on his eyes and he is willing to go back so easily on it.

^ That is right, if there is a dispute over the terms of a bet or agreement, it is always best to have a written contract to avoid confusion or misunderstandings. This helps to establish clear expectations and ensures that both parties understand their obligations. Because for me, if Jake Paul made a bet with Tommy Fury and both parties agreed to the terms, then Jake Paul should honor the bet and pay up, regardless of whether or not there was a written contract. Reneging on a bet could certainly damage his reputation and could be he is not a trustworthy person.

That would be a shame for Jake Paul,I don't see it that way,as I have said in several threads,a boxer should always be prepared to accept his challenges,rematches,without being forced by a clause,rookie boxers are always hungry to fight and accept all kinds of challenges,but personally a boxer must accept it,boxers currently do not know what they are looking for,but everything points to the business model and to earn more money,it is not bad to earn money,but it is not possible either lose the north that is the sport and more the boxing that is such an exciting sport.

So definitely we will see Beterbiev fight this year again. But we have to wait for it and it is obviously not Bivol which is the fighter that we wanted to see and for the unification of the belt. But Callum Smith might be a good opponent for him. We all know that he had a good title run, until he lost to Saul Alvarez and then he decided to move up to 175 and now has another crack for the belt against Beterbiev.

More likely he will just gonna bulldozed by Beterbiev because he is not that strong enough to take his punches. I don't know what else Beterbiev needs when he already got the best requirements to fight with Bivol. But still, when it comes to a super fight such as this one, it turns out the negotiation is so hard that it will gonna be taken so long before they can even decide whether to approve the fight or not. Anyway, Beterbiev doesn't really care whoever he's next opponent will be, as long as they are in the same weight, he will demolish him.

I guess he needs to fight Bivol, as he is not getting any younger, so at least he should have a big fight before retiring. Callum Smith is tall but weak; he was beaten by Canelo easily, just like what Canelo did to Caleb Plant. Maybe Beterbiev has to consider challenging himself more, and that is by fighting a boxer against whom we aren't sure he will win.

Not guess but he should've pick Bivol instead of Beterbiev because Bivol will be his redemption if ever he can rule an upset in the fight, it might be hard for him considering that Canelo just beat him easily but he should endure it and give an upset towards the champion if he still wanted his name to be in the top of this weight class. Fighting against Beterbiev is nonsense because I really don't believe that he a slightest chance against the 3-belt champ. Callum Smith picked an opponent that will end his career much earlier and will add an embarrassment to his existence in the industry, that's for sure.

These are the things that I don't understand in boxing either,for me it should also be Bivol, but I think that this type of decision has a lot to do with the business model that generates more money,if with Beterbiev they generate more, then that is the primary reason.

In these times there are fights that sometimes are not within the normal context , not only this one, there are others that do not make sense to me, but I think that now things are moving much more towards what generates more money, the boxing is now more focused in that direction.

[inthelongrun]

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

In my case, I'm not also sure why these governing bodies keep on ordering such fights for the interim belts to have interim champs when in-fact they are not giving the champions a mandatory title defense especially in the welterweight. They should just focus on giving the existing champions a mandatory title defense because the division is already stacked up at the moment, we have lots of good boxers that is not yet given a chance to be a champion because they are just letting the title holders to keep the belts for a long time while ducking some fights. And now another fight for an interim belt? That's just nonsense, IMO.

This is common for the most corrupt sanctioning bodies in boxing, the WBA and WBC. They focus on monetary gains rather than imposing what is right. I feel like the WBC is riding PBC's dick and giving Spence that VIP treatment. Interims are supposed to be held only when the champion has a legit reason not to fight like an injury. Garbage Barrios is all of a sudden in the rankings in order to facilitate an all-PBC fight with Ugas which is easier to make rather than make deal with the non-PBC #4 Souleymane Cissokho. These sanctioning bodies are disrespecting the effort of other fighters that worked hard in order to climb the rankings. What a shame.

[Kemarit]

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

In my case, I'm not also sure why these governing bodies keep on ordering such fights for the interim belts to have interim champs when in-fact they are not giving the champions a mandatory title defense especially in the welterweight. They should just focus on giving the existing champions a mandatory title defense because the division is already stacked up at the moment, we have lots of good boxers that is not yet given a chance to be a champion because they are just letting the title holders to keep the belts for a long time while ducking some fights. And now another fight for an interim belt? That's just nonsense, IMO.

It's all for the money I guess, and we have heard boxing corruptions, and that they are paid by the promotions not to force this boxers for mandatory and so they created this so called interim belts for the meantime. But the regular champion fight another boxer, for the same reason, money as well because the champion vs mandatory might not bring enough money to the promoters and their network affiliations. I know, it's non-sense, but they have built this already and it's just like the norm now for this 4 boxing organizations.

[Baofeng]

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

In my case, I'm not also sure why these governing bodies keep on ordering such fights for the interim belts to have interim champs when in-fact they are not giving the champions a mandatory title defense especially in the welterweight. They should just focus on giving the existing champions a mandatory title defense because the division is already stacked up at the moment, we have lots of good boxers that is not yet given a chance to be a champion because they are just letting the title holders to keep the belts for a long time while ducking some fights. And now another fight for an interim belt? That's just nonsense, IMO.

This is common for the most corrupt sanctioning bodies in boxing, the WBA and WBC. They focus on monetary gains rather than imposing what is right. I feel like the WBC is riding PBC's dick and giving Spence that VIP treatment. Interims are supposed to be held only when the champion has a legit reason not to fight like an injury. Garbage Barrios is all of a sudden in the rankings in order to facilitate an all-PBC fight with Ugas which is easier to make rather than make deal with the non-PBC #4 Souleymane Cissokho. These sanctioning bodies are disrespecting the effort of other fighters that worked hard in order to climb the rankings. What a shame.

True, Sulaiman started it and so other sanctioning bodies follow suit with their own set of champions, we have Diamond champions, Interim, Champion in recess - I mean a champion that cannot defend his belt for unknown reasons, well the obvious choice is that he should be stripped right? Lol, but not, he is still a champion by not defending his belt, so that's how f**k up WBC is.

That's why I question the Barrios vs Ugas hehehe, and then they leave the other ranking boxers, they will fight it out though and maybe the winner will have the face the Barrios vs Ugas winner? But why not get the 1 vs 2 for the interim belt? doesn't really make any sense but to push either Barrios or Ugas to be the next so called 'interim' champion or become the regular champion is Spence goes to 154 lbs.

[Fredomago]

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

In my case, I'm not also sure why these governing bodies keep on ordering such fights for the interim belts to have interim champs when in-fact they are not giving the champions a mandatory title defense especially in the welterweight. They should just focus on giving the existing champions a mandatory title defense because the division is already stacked up at the moment, we have lots of good boxers that is not yet given a chance to be a champion because they are just letting the title holders to keep the belts for a long time while ducking some fights. And now another fight for an interim belt? That's just nonsense, IMO.

Politics  or possible that both Ugas and Barrios can create good market to bring money, I see your point and it did happened, there are good fighters in this division who don't have the same opportunities like what they've given to both Barrios and Ugas, though Ugas should have this opportunity since he was a former champ.

Will Spence move up to a new division when he wins against Thurman? Personally, I don't see him doing that he likes to continue
holding his belt and the no-loss records, he will just continue to choose the fights and will enjoy his VIP treatment.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Here mate, the official WBC ranking for their bantamweight class: https://wbcboxing.com/en/bantamweight/

Alejandro Santiago (Barrios) is rank number 4. And yes, Nonito is now rank number 1. And the number 2 Nawaphon Sor Rungvisai, which I thought to be Donaire's opponent for the belt will fight another Filipino in Reymart Gaballo, it is called a title eliminator but obviously the fight between Donaire and Santiago is for the vacant belt already. But maybe the winner of Gaballo vs Sor Rungvisai will fight the champion next.

It is highly likely to happen that the winner between Gaballo and Sor Rungvisai will fight the winner between Nonito Donaire and Alejandro Santiago because whoever the winner between Gaballo and Sor Rungvisai will become the no.1 challenger of the title if ever a mandatory title defense is triggered.

Now it is interesting if both Filipinos won the fight, Gaballo had lost once to Nonito Donaire via 4th round KO so it would be interesting to watch if Gaballo had improved and be able to dominate a fight against Donaire.

In particular, I am a person who has total confidence in Gaballo and Donaire, for me the two are the ones who will win, now between these two, it will be difficult but due to everything they have wanted to demonstrate and want to achieve, it can be Donaire whoever wins, for me if this fight takes place, Donaire will win, I don't know, it could be by knockout or by a few rounds, Donaire gives me the impression that he wants his fights to last a short time so as not to lose shape, his training should Being very hard, also as everyone says that due to age he does not have the same performance, I think that Donaire wants to shut up.

And so WBC ordered a fight between Ugas and Barrios for the interim belt. Ugas is rank 2, while Barrios is rank 5. Thurman is rank 1 and will be fighting the champion in Spence, however it's 154 lbs.

So not sure why WBC ordered such fight for the interim belt, maybe they know that Spence will go up in weight if he wins against Thurman. On the other hand, Barrios has just like 2 fights in this division, lost to Thurman and then won against a unknown boxer. There is also rank 3 and 4 boxers in their organization, but they were bypass by Mario here, and then Ugas who did lost to Spence in his last fight.

In my case, I'm not also sure why these governing bodies keep on ordering such fights for the interim belts to have interim champs when in-fact they are not giving the champions a mandatory title defense especially in the welterweight. They should just focus on giving the existing champions a mandatory title defense because the division is already stacked up at the moment, we have lots of good boxers that is not yet given a chance to be a champion because they are just letting the title holders to keep the belts for a long time while ducking some fights. And now another fight for an interim belt? That's just nonsense, IMO.

Politics  or possible that both Ugas and Barrios can create good market to bring money, I see your point and it did happened, there are good fighters in this division who don't have the same opportunities like what they've given to both Barrios and Ugas, though Ugas should have this opportunity since he was a former champ.

Will Spence move up to a new division when he wins against Thurman? Personally, I don't see him doing that he likes to continue
holding his belt and the no-loss records, he will just continue to choose the fights and will enjoy his VIP treatment.

All of Spence's behavior suggests that he will go to another division, I don't know which one, but I think he is looking for more fame, new challenges, and if this is the case, then I think Crawford will have all the desire to fight him, It's a shame for Crawford since this boxer has been preparing to beat a Spence that I really don't know what he wants, it's hard to be able to Speculate on what the boxeaodr5 wants, because there are challenges that he doesn't take on and that's not It seems good to me, and a boxer should always be ready for challenges, for rematches, otherwise what they do doesn't make sense to me.