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April 04, 2023, 03:57:10 AM
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Anthony Joshua (1.09) VS Jermaine Franklin (8.00) - ROUND 12 - DECISION - WIN
The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?
Fury or Wilder. That's what he said in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxvFsjzneU

I doubt it will be Fury who is next. Wilder might have a better chance to materialize. With that kind of performance which he himself is not happy about, he may want to think about the choices he will make and not just throw a challenge from the top in heavyweight.
We expect KOs in heavyweight matches and we didn't see it in his fight, he may want it but it didn't happen. So if I were him and his camp I'd pick those whom he can surely defeat just like what happened against Franklin. As you said, the odds say it all.
I watched the video you shared. The reporter is talking a bit exaggerated in the initial seconds of the interview with his words, but the whole interview is still good at least.
He himself was disappointed on his performance because it wasn't a knockout win, and now he wants to match-up against either Fury or Wilder? 3 words for him. Don't do it.

He just came back after a heartbreaking 2 straight loss against Usyk, and then he wants to fight champions like Wilder, and Fury? I mean he's a champion as well, but I doubt that he can defeat either of the 2. Even Wilder who has been known for his strong punches can be defeated against Joshua (at least at this time). Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.

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April 04, 2023, 01:11:22 PM
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I watched the video you shared. The reporter is talking a bit exaggerated in the initial seconds of the interview with his words, but the whole interview is still good at least.
He himself was disappointed on his performance because it wasn't a knockout win, and now he wants to match-up against either Fury or Wilder? 3 words for him. Don't do it.

He just came back after a heartbreaking 2 straight loss against Usyk, and then he wants to fight champions like Wilder, and Fury? I mean he's a champion as well, but I doubt that he can defeat either of the 2. Even Wilder who has been known for his strong punches can be defeated against Joshua (at least at this time). Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
I think Joshua's performance doesn't changed, he just unlucky for not able to knockout Franklin, Joshua is really dominating in any round. It's not good for Joshua to take a challenge to fight with Wilder, either he lose or win he will not get anything. But if Joshua want to take a challenge to fight with Fury, he can grab the WBC belt if he win.

I have a different opinion, I will pick Joshua here because I expect he will become underdog due to his previous fight he not win via KO, but I know Joshua is stronger than that.

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April 05, 2023, 01:41:15 AM
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I watched the video you shared. The reporter is talking a bit exaggerated in the initial seconds of the interview with his words, but the whole interview is still good at least.
He himself was disappointed on his performance because it wasn't a knockout win, and now he wants to match-up against either Fury or Wilder? 3 words for him. Don't do it.

He just came back after a heartbreaking 2 straight loss against Usyk, and then he wants to fight champions like Wilder, and Fury? I mean he's a champion as well, but I doubt that he can defeat either of the 2. Even Wilder who has been known for his strong punches can be defeated against Joshua (at least at this time). Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
But if Joshua does not fight either Wilder or Fury then who else can he fight? Obviously Usyk is not an option as he lost clearly against him twice, so the only belt available for him to contest is the one that Fury is holding, and if he does not fight Fury then the natural candidate seems to be Wilder, now I agree that I do not see him winning over any of them but if he does not take the challenge he may as well just retire.
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April 07, 2023, 05:30:58 AM
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Overall, I guess it would be better for him to fight other heavyweight boxers instead of challenging these 2, but if one of them materializes, then I will pick them over Joshua.
Same decision for me.
And like @Silberman said, there's really not much of an option unless he tries to defeat one more weak boxer just to prove his knockout ability before he journey to the popular one on the top of their weight class.
Anyway, like you guys, I may bet for the other guy in the top ranks than Joshua. Not that I underestimate him but we don't know if Franklin has a stronger chin or Joshua's punches are weaker, I believe it's the latter and it's a crucial part of his next fight.

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April 07, 2023, 12:00:31 PM
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^ Lots of fight, hard to see and what to fight to bet.

But I'm more interesting on the Tapales match, so far no media coverage whatsoever as compare to the Inoue vs Fulton fight. But this is also big as he is facing the other champion in this division. And anyone is hoping that another Filipino will be crown champion in this heavy laden and talented 122 lbs.

Another must watch is Shakur vs Yoshino, although Shakur is the favorite here, but we want to see what the Japanese can offer against Stevenson. It could be a tune up fight for him or could be tougher than what we think since the Japanese might be a good boxer.

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April 07, 2023, 04:53:01 PM
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Shakur By KO is 3.55. This is a very substantial odd I think Shakur can actually bring Yoshino down before 5th round. He isn't a boxer that rings a bell and indeed this is sort of a tuneup for Shakur.

It's surprising he is given an opponent that is not on a list that could potentially make a lot of money. He should be fighting the top contender.

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Shakur By KO is 3.55. This is a very substantial odd I think Shakur can actually bring Yoshino down before 5th round. He isn't a boxer that rings a bell and indeed this is sort of a tuneup for Shakur.

It's surprising he is given an opponent that is not on a list that could potentially make a lot of money. He should be fighting the top contender.

Yes, I guess we can really call this a tune-up fight because it's a cherry-picked fight in the first place to highlight Shakur Stevenson's climb and first fight at 135 pounds. Win by a way of KO is more profitable compared to the win by decision because Shakur is not known as a KO boxer but in this case, via KO is more possible considering the fact you said above.

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April 07, 2023, 07:43:21 PM
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Shakur By KO is 3.55. This is a very substantial odd I think Shakur can actually bring Yoshino down before 5th round. He isn't a boxer that rings a bell and indeed this is sort of a tuneup for Shakur.

It's surprising he is given an opponent that is not on a list that could potentially make a lot of money. He should be fighting the top contender.

Yes, I guess we can really call this a tune-up fight because it's a cherry-picked fight in the first place to highlight Shakur Stevenson's climb and first fight at 135 pounds. Win by a way of KO is more profitable compared to the win by decision because Shakur is not known as a KO boxer but in this case, via KO is more possible considering the fact you said above.

Not guess because it is indeed a cherry picked fight. Bob Arum made sure that his cow will make a good impression once he enters the lightweight division because before the Loma vs Haney discussion happened, I heard that it was rumored that Shakur Stevenson has been chosen by Devin Haney's camp as their next fight because they aren't yet due for any mandatory fight. So we can probably say that Shakur has already been groomed to have big fights as soon as he finishes Yoshino.

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April 07, 2023, 09:22:05 PM
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If Benavidez beat Caleb, the super middleweight boxing will be more interesting because there is a chance that WBC might implement a mandatory title fight between Benavidez and Canelo.  I think Canelo will give in to the order and fight Benavidez.

Actually, that's really the goal of Benavidez as he stated in the interview, to somehow make Canelo accept the deal fighting him in the future. Regardless if Benavidez will have a hard time against Plant, as long as he wins, he will be eligible as a mandatory challenger for Canelo. No choice for Canelo but to accept it not unless he will still insist on his solid statement before that he won't fight fellow Mexicans unless it's really necessary.

Anyways, let's see first what will be the result of their respective upcoming fights and see what will be the post-result happenings after those.
Well, I imagine that Benavidez is a boxer who is looking to win anyway, and he needs to have that match with Canelo, but as I have said before, it seems very strange of Canelo that Benavidez has to do so many things so that he can fight for him. However, I have seen some other boxers fighting to be taken down by their opponents, as is the case of Crawford with Spence, they have not Been able to fight for anything in the world, and that does not seem fair on Spence's part, Crawforded in 2022 He was preparing a lot for that fight, but Spence didn't want to fight it, Which is hard for me to understand.
Many fans may not be interested in seeing a rematch between Canelo and Bivol due to the one-sided beatdown in their previous fight where Canelo was exposed.

I think that's the other way around. Many fans want to see that rematch because they are expecting a different version of Canelo here. Being destroyed by Bivol on their first meetup, Canelo fans want to see if a sweet revenge and comeback will now be able to execute by Canelo.

It just also makes sense that some fans want a rematch between Canelo and Bivol as that was an unfinished task by Canelo that he needed to pass. Not unless Bivol is not interested in any talks about the rematch, then no choice for some fans but to move on.

By some, you mean the minority? Because I really don't see that there's a lot of fans expect from Canelo's die-hard fans who are also wishing to see the rematch with the hopes that Canelo can somehow give a difference. I mean, that's just like wishing to see a Caleb-Canelo rematch, it just doesn't make sense anymore because it was a landslide victory.

Also, I think the rematch will probably be interesting enough and will get the people's attention if the rematch will be contested at 168 and not on 175 where Bivol is more dominant just like what we saw in their first fight. If ever this rematch will happen at 175, Canelo might've wanted to add another embarrassment to his career for the sake of money-fight.

Canelo is currently at the peak of his career. Chances of upsetting Bivol in the rematch is always possible. Canelo won't reach his current status if he doesn't know how to adjust. Bivol is on another level that's why it was advised that Canelo shouldn't pursue for a rematch right away but instead take some time and that's what happened.

Even Canelo will lose on the rematch, it's impossible that the same scene we saw on their first meeting will be shown by Canelo. Expect a changes of course regardless if the rematch will happened at 168 or 175.

And about the money and revenue? There's no problem with that as both boxer's name is already enough to attract more sales.

You are absolutely right, although Canelo's chances to beat Bivol are there, it is a fact that Bivol is very focused on his Objectives, but they should fight and have that revenge because if Bivol wins, then his supremacy is already done, there is no more nothing to say, Everything is there, but in the event that he does not win,he will have Canelo there, for me Personally I think that Bivol will beat Canelo,and it is as you say, in terms of income, that is more that demonstrated, it will be a success.

Now I go back and reiterate, in a fight between these titans anything could happen, but let's remember that Canelo also has a somewhat weak hand, I don't know if they operated on it, but that is something that can block the boxer's fight and not be aware of it. 100% in all its splendor, and Bivol knows this.

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April 08, 2023, 09:10:55 AM
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^ Lots of fight, hard to see and what to fight to bet.

But I'm more interesting on the Tapales match, so far no media coverage whatsoever as compare to the Inoue vs Fulton fight. But this is also big as he is facing the other champion in this division. And anyone is hoping that another Filipino will be crown champion in this heavy laden and talented 122 lbs.

Another must watch is Shakur vs Yoshino, although Shakur is the favorite here, but we want to see what the Japanese can offer against Stevenson. It could be a tune up fight for him or could be tougher than what we think since the Japanese might be a good boxer.
Correct. It's hard to decide. I cannot even make up a good parlay as I fear one fight prediction might become a mistake. Perhaps I will stick with just singles for now.

About the Tapales fight. Sure Murodjon Akhmadaliev is the favorite here but as a Filipino, I will put my full support to Tapales and take the underdog bet.
4.60 is the odds now and I love it. Not a recommended bet for this is a biased choice but for those who want to take the risk then this might be a good pick. I mean, who knows if Tapales could win this one especially if he is looking forward to bringing another title for his fellow countrymen.

For the Stevenson versus Yoshino fight, I guess we all know who will win. 1.05 for Stevenson is really not a profitable bet but ending with KO seems to be a good pick. I will take that @3.55 and hope he can knockout Yoshino.


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April 08, 2023, 09:44:38 PM
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Wow! Another landslide win for you mate, it seems that you are not just lucky with the NBA games but in boxing fights as well. Congratulations!

Been following you on most games but in this event, I totally forgot about it and I only realized that the fight was already finished when I see some highlights on my feed. Darn! Could've put some few spares in-favor of Anthony Joshua as there was no way that Jermaine can upset him, scores says it all.


Thanks but all of it is just luck, I just take most of what I think could win but surely I haven't bet on most of the unprofitable once but have make a bet on what I think could profit but over my pick have made it instead of 1 and luckily enough I haven't bet on that 1 lost, but on the profitable side I have bet on most fight that I would likely think is profitable,


The odds say it for Anthony Joshua, it would have been disappointing and a shocker had the outcome of this fight be anything other than expected. But other than his victory, I feel the fight was a very average fight for a fighter like Joshua who we have seen better from in his early years. Had Joshua been more damaging with his right hand that we know is his most powerful hand, Maybe Franklin would have been knocked out, and that would have been a better come back statement for him.

With a win for Anthony Joshua, I wonder the fight that will come first for him, will it be Dillion Whyte or Fury?

Well, Anthony Joshua is a sure win because of his strength but even though he doesn't have many technicalities in his arsenal his strength will surely complement all of the technical aspects he lacks, for sure the most profitable fight for him is surely Tyson Fury only he is number 1 right now, but will this win truly anchor him beside the greats well Deontay Wilder as well as a great profitable fight for Joshua but I really doubt him winning that, 



Lots of fights today! And just like you guys I don't really know where to put my bet right now and can not decide so I might as well just call this a day and let this fight slip, but still Goodluck to all that bet,
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April 09, 2023, 03:59:18 AM
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Good news for Filipino boxing fans, because we have a new champion in Marlon Tapales who beat and shocks Murodjon Akhmadaliev to wrestle his two belts with a majority decision with, 115-113 for Tapales and then one judge score it a lopsided 118-110 for Akhmadaliev (maybe he is on the payroll, hehehe). Both started slow but it was more of Tapales outworking him the middle to the later rounds and Akhmadaliev have signs of ring rust. And Marlon showing his shoulder roll

And now we have a new champion at 122 lbs, and Tapales or at least the winner of the Fulton and Inoue will be all go out for a super bantamweight unification fight later or early next year.

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April 09, 2023, 04:29:55 AM
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Good news for Filipino boxing fans, because we have a new champion in Marlon Tapales who beat and shocks Murodjon Akhmadaliev to wrestle his two belts with a majority decision with, 115-113 for Tapales and then one judge score it a lopsided 118-110 for Akhmadaliev (maybe he is on the payroll, hehehe). Both started slow but it was more of Tapales outworking him the middle to the later rounds and Akhmadaliev have signs of ring rust. And Marlon showing his shoulder roll

And now we have a new champion at 122 lbs, and Tapales or at least the winner of the Fulton and Inoue will be all go out for a super bantamweight unification fight later or early next year.

This is big news for Filipino boxing supporters in this community. I can't recall what is the odd for Tapales to win in this fight as Murodjon Akhmadaliev is touted to be the biggest puncher between the two and that he is likely to face the winner of Inoue vs Fulton. But everything has change now since Marlon Tapales upset him.

Seen few glimpse of the fight in Youtube but it's crazy and the shot was not that clear and obviously it's from a phone, maybe by a fan.

Now it's Rodriguez vs Gonzelez next as co-main event.

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April 09, 2023, 07:20:32 AM
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About the Tapales fight. Sure Murodjon Akhmadaliev is the favorite here but as a Filipino, I will put my full support to Tapales and take the underdog bet.
4.60 is the odds now and I love it. Not a recommended bet for this is a biased choice but for those who want to take the risk then this might be a good pick. I mean, who knows if Tapales could win this one especially if he is looking forward to bringing another title for his fellow countrymen.


Sweet odds Kabayan! upset takes place and your lucky to put your money in our Kabayan's shoulder @4.60 that's something that will really bring enjoyment aside from the entertainment while watching the fight, additional perks and something that you will enjoy especially if you put a decent amount of spares.

Not sure what will be his next journey but for now, let's Tapales enjoy the hypes in bringing pride back to our country!

Congrats and enjoy !

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Good news for Filipino boxing fans, because we have a new champion in Marlon Tapales who beat and shocks Murodjon Akhmadaliev to wrestle his two belts with a majority decision with, 115-113 for Tapales and then one judge score it a lopsided 118-110 for Akhmadaliev (maybe he is on the payroll, hehehe). Both started slow but it was more of Tapales outworking him the middle to the later rounds and Akhmadaliev have signs of ring rust. And Marlon showing his shoulder roll

And now we have a new champion at 122 lbs, and Tapales or at least the winner of the Fulton and Inoue will be all go out for a super bantamweight unification fight later or early next year.
Yes! Finally! 2 belts in line, 2 belts taken away by Marlon Tapales and he is going home with proud countrymen all rooting for him to win this one.
This is a good sign for Filipino boxers and should also boost Nonito Donaire because he will be the next one to bring home another title.

All my bets won today. Thank you Tapales. It's really worth the risk. Flexing it here.

I actually missed the fight because I was busy watching the UFC, now I am just watching the replay and analyzing how he got thru the heavy favorite Akhmadaliev.

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April 09, 2023, 09:39:04 AM
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Yes! Finally! 2 belts in line, 2 belts taken away by Marlon Tapales and he is going home with proud countrymen all rooting for him to win this one.
This is a good sign for Filipino boxers and should also boost Nonito Donaire because he will be the next one to bring home another title.

All my bets won today. Thank you Tapales. It's really worth the risk. Flexing it here.
Congratulations mate, it's really surprising how Tapales can beat Murodjon Akhmadaliev because he had defend his belt for 3 times. Tapales have many experience since he had 40 fights, but his fight was mostly against weak to mediocre boxer, that's make me think Tapales has a slim chance to beat Akhmadaliev.

Donaire fight is still unknown when it will happen, but there are many upcoming big matches e.g. Haney vs Loma, Inoue vs Fulton, Taylor vs Lopez etc.

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April 09, 2023, 12:16:28 PM
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Yes! Finally! 2 belts in line, 2 belts taken away by Marlon Tapales and he is going home with proud countrymen all rooting for him to win this one.
This is a good sign for Filipino boxers and should also boost Nonito Donaire because he will be the next one to bring home another title.

All my bets won today. Thank you Tapales. It's really worth the risk. Flexing it here.
Congratulations mate, it's really surprising how Tapales can beat Murodjon Akhmadaliev because he had defend his belt for 3 times. Tapales have many experience since he had 40 fights, but his fight was mostly against weak to mediocre boxer, that's make me think Tapales has a slim chance to beat Akhmadaliev.

We really really discount that upsets can happen, Tapales has been having a good run though in the last couple of his fights and it seems he is a late bloomer in boxing. His resume is not that good, but then again, with a big heart just like the rest of the Filipino boxers, this could he a shocker, but for his backers, it's not a surprised.

Donaire fight is still unknown when it will happen, but there are many upcoming big matches e.g. Haney vs Loma, Inoue vs Fulton, Taylor vs Lopez etc.

No date yet for Donaire vs Santiago for the WBC version. But boxing is already taking off, with big fights in the calendar year.

And the most anticipated is Garcia vs Davis this 3rd week of the month.
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April 09, 2023, 12:27:04 PM
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Good news for Filipino boxing fans, because we have a new champion in Marlon Tapales who beat and shocks Murodjon Akhmadaliev to wrestle his two belts with a majority decision with, 115-113 for Tapales and then one judge score it a lopsided 118-110 for Akhmadaliev (maybe he is on the payroll, hehehe). Both started slow but it was more of Tapales outworking him the middle to the later rounds and Akhmadaliev have signs of ring rust. And Marlon showing his shoulder roll

And now we have a new champion at 122 lbs, and Tapales or at least the winner of the Fulton and Inoue will be all go out for a super bantamweight unification fight later or early next year.
Yes! Finally! 2 belts in line, 2 belts taken away by Marlon Tapales and he is going home with proud countrymen all rooting for him to win this one.
This is a good sign for Filipino boxers and should also boost Nonito Donaire because he will be the next one to bring home another title.

All my bets won today. Thank you Tapales. It's really worth the risk. Flexing it here.

I actually missed the fight because I was busy watching the UFC, now I am just watching the replay and analyzing how he got thru the heavy favorite Akhmadaliev.

Wow, congrats on your big win mate. I missed all the boxing fights today as i'm out of town, i could also bet the same as yours.

Nevertheless, congrats to Tapales for unifying the WBA and IBF super bantamweight title. That was a close one but still a win so Filipinos are proud of him but the road to unifying all the belts is an uphill climb as either Inoue or Fulton is waiting in the wings which will make him the huge underdog if ever that happens in the future.
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April 09, 2023, 12:59:08 PM
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Congrats as well @danherbias07, good hit on that Tapales win.

This is just one hurdle that Marlon did, he was a huge underdog, nevertheless he proved how smart he is, just outpointing Murodjon Akhmadaliev is very tough as this fight in the US. Good thing that 2 of the judges was fair, they even have the same score, so most likely it was very close but at the end Marlon did a good job.

But the biggest challenged for him will be the winner of Fulton vs Inoue. It's difficult fight, either who wins, IMHO.

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April 09, 2023, 05:59:11 PM
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Congrats as well @danherbias07, good hit on that Tapales win.

This is just one hurdle that Marlon did, he was a huge underdog, nevertheless he proved how smart he is, just outpointing Murodjon Akhmadaliev is very tough as this fight in the US. Good thing that 2 of the judges was fair, they even have the same score, so most likely it was very close but at the end Marlon did a good job.

But the biggest challenged for him will be the winner of Fulton vs Inoue. It's difficult fight, either who wins, IMHO.

This fight might be one of the best candidates for upset of the year award.  Although not many fans are convinced of the split decision since some of them are boo-ing the announcement of the fight, it is a win indeed for the Filipino boxers.  I wonder how does the one judge go with his score of 118-110 for the former champion.  It was indeed a close fight, 115 - 113 from the other two judges, while the badhook site have it scored as 116-113 for Akhmadaliev[1]

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Our own John Hansen, covering the card live, scored the bout 116-113 for Akhmadaliev, who drops to 11-1 (7 KO).

Anyway, I think a rematch is in hand since not many fans think that the two judges' decision is convincing so we might expect the camp of the former champion to demand a rematch.

But the biggest challenged for him will be the winner of Fulton vs Inoue. It's difficult fight, either who wins, IMHO.

Yeah, I think this will be the biggest hurdle of his career but possibly the greatest opportunity to make his name stamped and be included as one of the legends of boxing history.



[1] https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/4/8/23675951/highlights-results-marlon-tapales-upsets-akhmadaliev-win-wba-ibf-titles-dazn-boxing-news-2023

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