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May 30, 2023, 06:43:29 PM
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^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

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May 30, 2023, 08:51:56 PM
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

Nice! I want that fight to really pull through and make a living hell out of Rolando Romero, I really hate the guy with his antics and pushing technique, he is easily unlikeable to me, but with Ryan Garcia, I think that Rolando Romero is good as knockdown for sure,

Well, after that fight with Tank Davis, I guess Ryan Garcia has already learned a bit, but for sure this will be a test for both fighters' Style, I can see Ryan Garcia winning this but Rolando Romero would likely start pushing and the referee scoring that as a knockdown then that will be another controversial fight for Romero, I think the referee should be questioned for doing something like that,

^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

Oh yeah, I remember Oscar De La Hoya not showing his face in Ryan Garcia's corner because of some death threats this could be a closure that De La Hoya is really sincere, but regarding that, this fight may continue without his intervention there are other promotions that likely want to see this fight for sure,

We haven't seen any given updates yet and because this is still fresh news but given the circumstance, it could surely come to fruition because as I have said there are many that want to see this and given the hype that both are challenging one another we could surely have this for sure,
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May 31, 2023, 09:03:35 AM
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In case someone is interested in heavyweight boxing, then there are some interesting news - Oleksandr Usyk set to fight Daniel Dubois in Poland in August.

That is a bit confusing to read. Either this is a total fake, otherwise I cant explain why is he fighting Daniel Dubois, when there were negotiations about fighting Tyson Fury. With all respect to Dubois, but who he is? He seems to be on different level than Usyk. A regular WBA champion. Seems a decent achievement, but the word regular spoils everything Cheesy

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May 31, 2023, 03:53:08 PM
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

I smell that Ryan Garcia is just bluffing. But in Romero's case, it makes sense since he might not be able to hold the belt against the real contenders of the division. Garcia just came from a KO defeat so it's like an easier defense but financially big. But unless I can hear from Oscar De La Hoya, Garcia is just talking so people would see that he is not scared of Romero. But maybe this is doable if Garcia is really, serious. Both seem weak in the division but very popular so it is beneficial for both of them. And Garcia may not be able to get another title shot if Romero losses the belt to someone really good.

But there's also the promotional and network that both camps need to address. It is obvious that Garcia is the bigger name so I wonder if PBC and Showtime will allow GBP and DAZN to the event so the fight will go on. Just like when GBP and DAZN allowed them during the Tank-Garcia fight.

What we are witnessing from Garcia is just trying to re-live his hype so that when the comes that he will fight, he will always have some people who will support him because even if we say that he not doing any good in defense, he is still a talented boxer because of his left fist that could potentially defeat any KO directly if they will receive that punch neat and clean. For now, this kid is just trying to be relevant after what happened to him, and I don't really think that he is already that ready to fight someone.

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May 31, 2023, 03:56:23 PM
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^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

That might be the case this time but considering that Rolly Romero is also now that WBA champion and Oscar's cow is just the challenger, there is also a chance that it might not be the case as PBC are still leaning on the A-side. Well, this fight could happen much sooner as long as both camps will come up with a deal which I think is possible before this year will end and as long as there is a hype surrounding the bout.

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May 31, 2023, 06:51:20 PM
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^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

That might be the case this time but considering that Rolly Romero is also now that WBA champion and Oscar's cow is just the challenger, there is also a chance that it might not be the case as PBC are still leaning on the A-side. Well, this fight could happen much sooner as long as both camps will come up with a deal which I think is possible before this year will end and as long as there is a hype surrounding the bout.

Returning a favor just like what is mentioned above are only happening in most fights where there is a rematch or if it is a trilogy which is very rare to happen these days.

So, if it is a different boxer within the same opposite camps, that same favor will probably not happen and will not be returned. In that case, they might have to come up with another idea without losing the advantage being on the A-side and knowing Al Haymon, that is definitely hard to do.

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May 31, 2023, 08:55:59 PM
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One thing is for sure. Boxing has been good for Jake Paul and living in Puerto Rico must have some serious tax benefits because his new house which cost him $16,000,000 is pretty insane.

https://twitter.com/dexerto/status/1663967896781897741

UFC fighters have to think it’s pretty crazy how much money is being made in other sports. I hope Jake is able to figure out a way to share the wealth with other fighters.

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May 31, 2023, 09:10:41 PM
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Returning a favor just like what is mentioned above are only happening in most fights where there is a rematch or if it is a trilogy which is very rare to happen these days.

So, if it is a different boxer within the same opposite camps, that same favor will probably not happen and will not be returned. In that case, they might have to come up with another idea without losing the advantage being on the A-side and knowing Al Haymon, that is definitely hard to do.

Sometimes a trilogy happens if both fighters are always clashing against each other without running until someone is down and the fans wanted to see such kinds of fight again and the promoters and the fighters will agree to it. Just like what we have seen with Manny Pacquiao and Erik Morales, one of the best trilogy in boxing ever. both are not afraid to throw punches and exchange huge power-fast punches against each other. Too bad for Morales Pacquiao improved a lot after every fight and he can't take his punches anymore in their 3rd fight.

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May 31, 2023, 10:43:52 PM
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

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Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero (15-1, 13 KOs) has been ordered by the WBA to defend his 140-lb title next against his mandatory Ohara Davies, which means that he’ll need to come up with a step aside if he wants to go ahead with his plans for a PPV clash against Ryan Garcia.
Source: WBA Orders Rolly Romero To Defend Against Ohara Davies Next - Boxing News 24 (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/05/wba-orders-rolly-romero-to-defend-against-ohara-davies-next/)

I was about to say it's going to be a good fight but sh!t happens.
Well, all Romero should do is prove that he can really win games without controversies but now up against a different boxer. Ohara Davies. He won his last 7 fights and has now been given a chance to fight for the title.
I don't know what the referee has seen to stop the fight against Barroso but this time there should be no mistake or whatsoever. Barroso was obviously still fighting and Romero just keeps on pushing him making it look like he is falling down but I don't think that was a cue to stop the fight. He ain't injured, he is punching, he is defending, and no towel was thrown. The referee may have been blindsided by something that made him take the call to stop it.

I like the challenge of Ryan Garcia but he has to wait. I doubt it will still happen if Rolly is defeated by Ohara.

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May 31, 2023, 10:47:09 PM
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

I smell that Ryan Garcia is just bluffing. But in Romero's case, it makes sense since he might not be able to hold the belt against the real contenders of the division. Garcia just came from a KO defeat so it's like an easier defense but financially big. But unless I can hear from Oscar De La Hoya, Garcia is just talking so people would see that he is not scared of Romero. But maybe this is doable if Garcia is really, serious. Both seem weak in the division but very popular so it is beneficial for both of them. And Garcia may not be able to get another title shot if Romero losses the belt to someone really good.

But there's also the promotional and network that both camps need to address. It is obvious that Garcia is the bigger name so I wonder if PBC and Showtime will allow GBP and DAZN to the event so the fight will go on. Just like when GBP and DAZN allowed them during the Tank-Garcia fight.

Yeah, hehehe, that could be the case again and again, I' curious as how the fight will turn out to be, because we all know that they've the same style, Lol, that is no style and just rely on their power to finished off their opponents. But the money that this fight can generated, perhaps the numbers could be closed to the Haney vs Loma in terms of PPV numbers?

However,  Rolando Romero-Ohara Davies Mandatory 140-Pound Title Fight Ordered By WBA.

Initially he said that he doesn't want to face Ohara Davies because he is a no-name fighter. But I guess he would have to follow the mandate of WBA because Davies is their mandatory.

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June 01, 2023, 06:09:37 AM
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I think that will be the better options for Rolly Romero now, of course a Ryan Garcia fight will be a block for him and his camp. Eventhough Ryan has lost his fight against Tank Davis, he is still one of the most bankable star and that's why everyone is still wanting to fight him including Romero.

But I guess WBA did him a favor here by ordering a Davies mandatory fight. Ohara is a solid 140 lbs and his name could be one of those who might reign in this division in the future. So it make sense for the WBA to order Romero and see how tough he is before calling out other 140 lbs fighters including Ryan (yes, I think Ryan will move up to 140 lbs in his next fight).

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June 01, 2023, 10:34:23 AM
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I think that will be the better options for Rolly Romero now, of course a Ryan Garcia fight will be a block for him and his camp. Eventhough Ryan has lost his fight against Tank Davis, he is still one of the most bankable star and that's why everyone is still wanting to fight him including Romero.

But I guess WBA did him a favor here by ordering a Davies mandatory fight. Ohara is a solid 140 lbs and his name could be one of those who might reign in this division in the future. So it make sense for the WBA to order Romero and see how tough he is before calling out other 140 lbs fighters including Ryan (yes, I think Ryan will move up to 140 lbs in his next fight).
Purely for money purposes. Rolly Romero and his camp might be thinking they could increase his value of him if he fights boxers that have big names when it comes to social media fans. That is why he is picking either Tank Davis or Ryan Garcia.
But he has to win it if they want to continue to be a money-making machine. I guess the expensive price in pay-per-view and tickets of Davis versus Garcia made them realize that they could also make tons of money just by fighting either one.
He is lucky because Ryan Garcia is ready to battle him but unlucky that WBA ordered him to fight a different boxer for now. That means 3-6 more months of waiting if ever he wins this match. Rest plus other stuff like contracts, venue, and promotions will take some time.

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June 01, 2023, 11:27:43 AM
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However,  Rolando Romero-Ohara Davies Mandatory 140-Pound Title Fight Ordered By WBA.

Initially he said that he doesn't want to face Ohara Davies because he is a no-name fighter. But I guess he would have to follow the mandate of WBA because Davies is their mandatory.

He can't choose an opponent if it's mandatory. He needs to fight the mandatory challenger instead of being greedy and going for big money. Eventually, his time will come. He needs to embark on the right journey and build his name, just like Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis did. The best fighter he'll fight next is Ryan Garcia, and if he wins, he will gain popularity and possibly have a chance to fight Davis if the latter allows it.

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June 01, 2023, 03:46:04 PM
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However,  Rolando Romero-Ohara Davies Mandatory 140-Pound Title Fight Ordered By WBA.

Initially he said that he doesn't want to face Ohara Davies because he is a no-name fighter. But I guess he would have to follow the mandate of WBA because Davies is their mandatory.

He can't choose an opponent if it's mandatory. He needs to fight the mandatory challenger instead of being greedy and going for big money. Eventually, his time will come. He needs to embark on the right journey and build his name, just like Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis did. The best fighter he'll fight next is Ryan Garcia, and if he wins, he will gain popularity and possibly have a chance to fight Davis if the latter allows it.

I think that's why mandatory are enforced, but we all know that sometimes, specially if the champion are great, not necessarily a mandatory will have a crack at the champion as he can choose whoever fighter he wants.

But in this case since his win is very controversial, then he should follow what the organization dictates as of now, otherwise he could be ordered for a rematch. And I don't think that Romero has the making of a great boxer to be honest, he is just pure trash talking and then he can't back up his talk.

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June 01, 2023, 05:40:38 PM
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I think that will be the better options for Rolly Romero now, of course a Ryan Garcia fight will be a block for him and his camp. Eventhough Ryan has lost his fight against Tank Davis, he is still one of the most bankable star and that's why everyone is still wanting to fight him including Romero.

But I guess WBA did him a favor here by ordering a Davies mandatory fight. Ohara is a solid 140 lbs and his name could be one of those who might reign in this division in the future. So it make sense for the WBA to order Romero and see how tough he is before calling out other 140 lbs fighters including Ryan (yes, I think Ryan will move up to 140 lbs in his next fight).

I'd say WBA really did him a favor because he will be stagnant if ever he will wait for Garcia until he is ready because we know that Garcia might have to lay low first in the next couple of months before having a fight for himself which I think will be a tune-up first, so a fight with this Ohara Davis will really make Romero more ready and busy, on the other hand, he might have some opportunities down the road if he continue to be active.


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June 01, 2023, 06:30:29 PM
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In case someone is interested in heavyweight boxing, then there are some interesting news - Oleksandr Usyk set to fight Daniel Dubois in Poland in August.

That is a bit confusing to read. Either this is a total fake, otherwise I cant explain why is he fighting Daniel Dubois, when there were negotiations about fighting Tyson Fury. With all respect to Dubois, but who he is? He seems to be on different level than Usyk. A regular WBA champion. Seems a decent achievement, but the word regular spoils everything Cheesy

Well, I am interested in Oleksandr Usyk's fight but I think this Daniel Dubois fight is surely Dubius for me it is viable Daniel Dubois is just 25 years old and still doesn't hit the level of his prime for sure this kid still has a long way ahead of him, but for sure Dubois only lost was against Joe Joyce, and it was a doctor stoppage if I am not mistaken it was a badly swollen of the eye of Dubois that got him that lost, but because his opponent is Oleksandr Usyk and a volume puncher that swollen eye lost could be repeated again,

But for sure Oleksandr Usyk is faster than Daniel Dubois, and counting Daniel Dubois out in this fight to be outperformed by Oleksandr Usyk is not really fair for Dubois I think this is the only Viable fight for Oleksandr Usyk because Tyson Fury has so many challenges awaits him so that fight could surely wait and Oleksandr Usyk would surely need a living, but let's see if Daniel Dubois can make a change to his style he is still young and still progressing,

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June 01, 2023, 07:02:32 PM
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However,  Rolando Romero-Ohara Davies Mandatory 140-Pound Title Fight Ordered By WBA.

Initially he said that he doesn't want to face Ohara Davies because he is a no-name fighter. But I guess he would have to follow the mandate of WBA because Davies is their mandatory.

He can't choose an opponent if it's mandatory. He needs to fight the mandatory challenger instead of being greedy and going for big money. Eventually, his time will come. He needs to embark on the right journey and build his name, just like Ryan Garcia and Tank Davis did. The best fighter he'll fight next is Ryan Garcia, and if he wins, he will gain popularity and possibly have a chance to fight Davis if the latter allows it.

I think that's why mandatory are enforced, but we all know that sometimes, specially if the champion are great, not necessarily a mandatory will have a crack at the champion as he can choose whoever fighter he wants.

But in this case since his win is very controversial, then he should follow what the organization dictates as of now, otherwise he could be ordered for a rematch. And I don't think that Romero has the making of a great boxer to be honest, he is just pure trash talking and then he can't back up his talk.

He got no other options other than obeying his mandatory title defense against Ohara Davies because if he will not do it, he knows that he will be stripped of his title which he surely worked hard for. Rolly Romero should be patient about his current position as he isn't yet that kind of star who have the power to choose who will be his foe even if it will be under the guise of a mandatory fight, just like what other do.

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June 01, 2023, 08:50:55 PM
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I think that will be the better options for Rolly Romero now, of course a Ryan Garcia fight will be a block for him and his camp. Eventhough Ryan has lost his fight against Tank Davis, he is still one of the most bankable star and that's why everyone is still wanting to fight him including Romero.

But I guess WBA did him a favor here by ordering a Davies mandatory fight. Ohara is a solid 140 lbs and his name could be one of those who might reign in this division in the future. So it make sense for the WBA to order Romero and see how tough he is before calling out other 140 lbs fighters including Ryan (yes, I think Ryan will move up to 140 lbs in his next fight).

I'd say WBA really did him a favor because he will be stagnant if ever he will wait for Garcia until he is ready because we know that Garcia might have to lay low first in the next couple of months before having a fight for himself which I think will be a tune-up first, so a fight with this Ohara Davis will really make Romero more ready and busy, on the other hand, he might have some opportunities down the road if he continue to be active.

Romero's camp should be prepared about what could happen next for Romero because after all, they are not that kind of beginners in this industry who should be informed about what could be the next and also, they are under Mayweather who is under Al Haymon's guidance. So they shouldn't be shocked about this mandatory fight as almost every boxer is and was having it even if they just have finished their fight recently. He should be grateful because he is still garnering some fights even after that controversial win he got.

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I smell that Ryan Garcia is just bluffing. But in Romero's case, it makes sense since he might not be able to hold the belt against the real contenders of the division. Garcia just came from a KO defeat so it's like an easier defense but financially big. But unless I can hear from Oscar De La Hoya, Garcia is just talking so people would see that he is not scared of Romero. But maybe this is doable if Garcia is really, serious. Both seem weak in the division but very popular so it is beneficial for both of them. And Garcia may not be able to get another title shot if Romero losses the belt to someone really good.

But there's also the promotional and network that both camps need to address. It is obvious that Garcia is the bigger name so I wonder if PBC and Showtime will allow GBP and DAZN to the event so the fight will go on. Just like when GBP and DAZN allowed them during the Tank-Garcia fight.

Yeah, hehehe, that could be the case again and again, I' curious as how the fight will turn out to be, because we all know that they've the same style, Lol, that is no style and just rely on their power to finished off their opponents. But the money that this fight can generated, perhaps the numbers could be closed to the Haney vs Loma in terms of PPV numbers?

However,  Rolando Romero-Ohara Davies Mandatory 140-Pound Title Fight Ordered By WBA.

Initially he said that he doesn't want to face Ohara Davies because he is a no-name fighter. But I guess he would have to follow the mandate of WBA because Davies is their mandatory.


It will be exciting until it lasts. 2 fighters that have very low defense and are not technically good come out swinging wildly until someone gets hit. Cheesy If both will do the trash talking then I am confident they can do better numbers than Loma-Haney. Both are Americans, PBC loyalists, and Garcia's fans will buy this PPV. I say they can do 300k-500k PPV buys.

Good thing the WBA made the mandatory. They probably thought that Garcia is just bluffing and it won't happen so they issue the mandatory. Ohara Davies deserves this title shot more than Romero. His only defeats only came from former undisputed Josh Taylor and Jack Catterall. I will definitely bet on Davies here. The only chance Romero wins is by KO or if PBC will buy the judges and the referee.

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June 01, 2023, 11:07:42 PM
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How about this news?



https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1664287862911807490

Will Canelo bite on this one? or will he clearly duck Benavidez at this stage because he is focus on a rematch with Bivol at 175 lbs.

Offer might not be big for Canelo though, but I think the Benavidez is chasing him because they know that Canelo is slowly losing a step or two as what we hae seen in the Ryder fight recently.

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