Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress]

[o48o]

Sneaky Russians...
Burning of Qur’an in Stockholm funded by journalist with Kremlin ties
Permit for demonstration at which anti-Islam provocateur burned Muslim holy book was paid for by far-right journalist linked to Moscow-backed media
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/27/burning-of-quran-in-stockholm-funded-by-journalist-with-kremlin-ties-sweden-nato-russia

Dictators like Erdoğan are not too fan of freedom of speech but I find it kind of worrisome that one guy who is using his constitutional rights to protest (no matter what you think of his actions or politics, protesting is his right) and that's the reason Erdoğan is using to ban Sweden from NATO.

It's now just a matter of time that one Nato-hater or Erdoğan-hater goes and burns a quran in Finland and we are in the same exact position as Sweden. I am amazed they haven't already done that. Or maybe they haven't been covered by press. Political cartoonists in here are already using their right to mock Erdoğan (Not muslims though, they just hate Erdoğan).

But i guess we don't need NATO as much as Sweden. USSR failed invading Finland before and now we are way more prepared to defend our nation.

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[LTU_btc]

LOL this is from 2014 and it was based on a projection by former Russian MP Volodymyr Zhirinovsky.

https://voxukraine.org/en/updated-fake-a-map-illustrating-poland-s-intention-to-appropriate-the-western-regions-of-ukraine/

LOL, these lovers of conspiracy theories will share everything that fits their agenda without making any reasearch about it. This image is perfect example of it. It can be taken out of context or tell completely opposite things. But who need critical thinking when you can make stupid conspiracy theory...
Though, from all these countries in the map, Hungary wouldn't be against taking part of Ukraine, judging from their stance on sanctions against Russia and sending military equipment to Ukraine.

Given, given, given
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#/media/File:Ukraine-growth.png

Why not to start with map of Russia and think about giving Karelia, Königsberg and Kuril islands back to original owners?

Dictators like Erdoğan are not too fan of freedom of speech but I find it kind of worrisome that one guy who is using his constitutional rights to protest (no matter what you think of his actions or politics, protesting is his right) and that's the reason Erdoğan is using to ban Sweden from NATO.

It's now just a matter of time that one Nato-hater or Erdoğan-hater goes and burns a quran in Finland and we are in the same exact position as Sweden. I am amazed they haven't already done that. Or maybe they haven't been covered by press. Political cartoonists in here are already using their right to mock Erdoğan (Not muslims though, they just hate Erdoğan).

But i guess we don't need NATO as much as Sweden. USSR failed invading Finland before and now we are way more prepared to defend our nation.

For me it's very difficult to believe that Turkey would agreed on on accepting Sweden and Finland to NATO. And with that burned Quaran they simply found reason. I'm sure that they will find reason not to accept Finland too. I agree that Fnland with strong military don't desperatelyy need NATO. It's more that NATO need it

[paxmao]

Sneaky Russians...


Burning of Qur’an in Stockholm funded by journalist with Kremlin ties

Permit for demonstration at which anti-Islam provocateur burned Muslim holy book was paid for by far-right journalist linked to Moscow-backed media

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/27/burning-of-quran-in-stockholm-funded-by-journalist-with-kremlin-ties-sweden-nato-russia

Ahaha, if a lone action of some lunatic can prevent Sweden from joining NATO, then Sweden is not so eager to get into NATO.

The eagerness is directly proportional to the closest T-90. As they get farther away, neutrality sound good. If they ever get close... NATO time.

LOL this is from 2014 and it was based on a projection by former Russian MP Volodymyr Zhirinovsky.

https://voxukraine.org/en/updated-fake-a-map-illustrating-poland-s-intention-to-appropriate-the-western-regions-of-ukraine/

LOL, these lovers of conspiracy theories will share everything that fits their agenda without making any reasearch about it. This image is perfect example of it. It can be taken out of context or tell completely opposite things. But who need critical thinking when you can make stupid conspiracy theory...
Though, from all these countries in the map, Hungary wouldn't be against taking part of Ukraine, judging from their stance on sanctions against Russia and sending military equipment to Ukraine.

Given, given, given
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine#/media/File:Ukraine-growth.png

Why not to start with map of Russia and think about giving Karelia, Königsberg and Kuril islands back to original owners?

Dictators like Erdoğan are not too fan of freedom of speech but I find it kind of worrisome that one guy who is using his constitutional rights to protest (no matter what you think of his actions or politics, protesting is his right) and that's the reason Erdoğan is using to ban Sweden from NATO.

It's now just a matter of time that one Nato-hater or Erdoğan-hater goes and burns a quran in Finland and we are in the same exact position as Sweden. I am amazed they haven't already done that. Or maybe they haven't been covered by press. Political cartoonists in here are already using their right to mock Erdoğan (Not muslims though, they just hate Erdoğan).

But i guess we don't need NATO as much as Sweden. USSR failed invading Finland before and now we are way more prepared to defend our nation.

For me it's very difficult to believe that Turkey would agreed on on accepting Sweden and Finland to NATO. And with that burned Quaran they simply found reason. I'm sure that they will find reason not to accept Finland too. I agree that Fnland with strong military don't desperatelyy need NATO. It's more that NATO need it

Who the f*ck would give weapons to Ukraine to then try to invade it? Polish are not stupid and are very happy to have Ukraine between them and the Psychopaths that are currently in control of the RF army. Same for all Europe, let's be honest - countries do not have friends, they have interests.

This does not mean that European people, individuals, do not feel sympathy for Ukraine and the terrible situation that the RF madness is causing, but as nations, it is about interests and the interest is to avoid a divided Berlin and another 50 years of cold war and a heavily armed frontier.

[BADecker]

Who the f*ck would give weapons to Ukraine to then try to invade it? Polish are not stupid and are very happy to have Ukraine between them and the Psychopaths that are currently in control of the RF army. Same for all Europe, let's be honest - countries do not have friends, they have interests.

This does not mean that European people, individuals, do not feel sympathy for Ukraine and the terrible situation that the RF madness is causing, but as nations, it is about interests and the interest is to avoid a divided Berlin and another 50 years of cold war and a heavily armed frontier.

Stalin is long dead, and even his beliefs are almost gone.

I watched the movie, "The Kremlin Conspiracy," which is up on Youtube in French - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uBeEnMhFOI. The interesting thing about it is that I can't find this movie listed in any detail anywhere else. Even the IMDB (Internet Movie Database, taken from the volumes of a similar name) doesn't have this movie listed except if you are a Premium Member.

I don't understand French, but the movie seemed to have details about Stalin's death. Why isn't it widely advertised? Too much detail that the military nations of the world want covered up?

Get off it. Russia has changed. Listen to the propaganda that the writer of "The Kremlin Conspiracy" book is pushing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUZB22EEl3A.

[TwitchySeal]

I don't understand French, but the movie seemed to have details about Stalin's death. Why isn't it widely advertised? Too much detail that the military nations of the world want covered up?

This movie either reveals a big conspiracy that the military nations of the world don't want you to know, or it's a shitty movie and the title is Archangel, not The Kremlin Conspiracy.  Whichever you think is more likely the reason this 15 year old low rated movie isn't being advertised, and you can't find any details about it when you search for the title of a youtube video of the movie in French instead of the actual title.

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1168888-archangel

[montaga]

Languages spoken at home in Ukraine, based on Kyiv national linguistic university data from 2009
Professor John J. Mearsheimer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&t=360s
https://www.opendemocracy.net/ru/kto-boretsya-s-kem-v-ukraine-i-pochemu/
https://reconsideringrussia.org/2014/03/02/what-is-ukraine/ukraine-language-map/

[TwitchySeal]

https://translatorswithoutborders.org/language-data-for-ukraine

[DrBeer]

Updated and supplemented data on missile strikes:

1) October 10-11 - 112 missiles, shot down 65 (58%);
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2) October 17 (in 6 days) – 9 missiles – 3 missiles shot down (33%)
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3) October 22 (after 5 days) – 36 missiles, shot down 18 (50%);
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4) October 31 (after 9 days) – 56 missiles, shot down 45 (80%);
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5) November 15-17 (in 15 days) – 108 missiles, shot down 79 (73%)
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6) November 23 (after 6 days) – 67 missiles, shot down 51 (77.5%); Blackout
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7) December 5 (after 12 days) – 70 missiles, shot down 60 (86%);
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8 ) December 16 (after 11 days) – 76 missiles, shot down 60 (79%);
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9) December 29-31 (after 13 days) - 81 missiles, shot down 74 (79%) - ballistic missiles were used
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10) January 14 (after 15 days) – 38 missiles were shot down, 25 missiles (67%)
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11) January 26 (in 12 days) – 55 rockets. 47 shot down (3 did not reach the air defense zone and fell), (90%)
In general, we can say that since October 10, we have had 11 massive missile strikes.
The average number of missiles has already dropped to 64. Apparently, in fact, resources are running out.
The average interval between missile attacks is 8 days, with a tendency to increase to 12-15 days.
Which also confirms the limited resources and the growing time to fill up the reserves to carry out the strike
Average whipping efficiency during the period - 63%.
Over the past 2 months, efficiency has increased to 78%
The statistics were slightly spoiled by S400 ballistic missiles
But, in general, efficiency is increasing
Based on statistics, the next strike may be in 12-15 days (February 7-10) with a total number of missiles up to 60
We can say in advance that the effectiveness of Ukrainian air defense is increasing, energy risks for us are decreasing.
The effectiveness of Horde strikes is visible only on television and for the international court - additional evidence confirming terrorism.
We thank the forces of the Armed Forces, Air Defense Forces for protecting the sky.
We thank the energy workers for the light in the houses (although so far with fan outages)
And thanks to our partners for the energy equipment!

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[montaga]

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Spoke to a Ukrainian (from Odessa) and from his view the 2019 map with percent of Russian speakers in region is correct. At home he speaks Russian with family and friends. He has real difficulty understanding some Ukrainians because of strong dialect variations (Surzhik, villages with wild varieties of Russian-Ukrainian mix or Ukrainian dialects with no standard in its written form).
Since the start of the war a lot of people moved and some of his friends started to speak Ukrainian.
By law all cinemas in the country must use Ukraine language only.
The second map is from Wikimedia, (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Regional_languages_in_Ukraine_(RUS).PNG)
the third Google search (old original ), and the 4th is chat language used in VK social network.

[tvbcof]

According to the Russian reports at least, the Russians are doing quite well in artillery duels these days.  Whether or not NATO is is not reported.  Anyway, it got me looking into the counter-battery gear a bit.  The Russians seem to have a somewhat unique new tool which went into service relatively recently.  Everything else I spot seems to be good old-fashioned radar and this one is apparently not:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penicillin_(counter-artillery_system)

Interesting idea if they can get it working, and probably 'disruptive' to adversaries not thinking outside the box.

The obvious solution would seem to me to be a system where 'dummy' thumper/noise-maker devices were used in sync with artillery fire to confuse the system.  That would require a certain amount of development of course.

[paxmao]

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Spoke to a Ukrainian (from Odessa) and from his view the 2019 map with percent of Russian speakers in region is correct. At home he speaks Russian with family and friends. He has real difficulty understanding some Ukrainians because of strong dialect variations (Surzhik, villages with wild varieties of Russian-Ukrainian mix or Ukrainian dialects with no standard in its written form).
Since the start of the war a lot of people moved and some of his friends started to speak Ukrainian.
By law all cinemas in the country must use Ukraine language only.
The second map is from Wikimedia, (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Regional_languages_in_Ukraine_(RUS).PNG)
the third Google search (old original ), and the 4th is chat language used in VK social network.

All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.

[Branko]

All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.

Umm, you know that Ukraine is exactly the same corrupt, but even more poor than Russia? And that more both Ukrainians and Russians from Ukraine went to work in Russia,
than to EU?

[suchmoon]

All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.

Umm, you know that Ukraine is exactly the same corrupt, but even more poor than Russia? And that more both Ukrainians and Russians from Ukraine went to work in Russia,
than to EU?

That's the weakest excuse for the invasion so far. You gotta do better.

[paxmao]

All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.

Umm, you know that Ukraine is exactly the same corrupt, but even more poor than Russia? And that more both Ukrainians and Russians from Ukraine went to work in Russia,
than to EU?

And if they choose to have a corrupt government and are happy with it, so be it (not the best idea if they ever want to join the EU). Note word "choose" - is like electing, deciding, you know? The opposite of being imposed by the force and by the guy with the biggest gun. Democracies have a much better chance to clean up their houses than despotic governments. Being governed from Moscow has only brought death and poverty.

[BADecker]

The brink of WWnext is here. It's slopping over the brim of the war cup. If it starts for real, free Europe will be gone almost as quickly as Ukraine.


More Russian Sanctions = World War III


https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/01/29/more-russian-sanctions-world-war-iii/
Every President always sought peace until Biden who seems to be reading the cur cards for Armageddon. Even Henry Kissinger said every president has invited him to the White House EXCEPT Biden.

Even if we assume that the sanctions worked and forced Putin to withdraw from protecting the Russians in the Donbas whom the West had all agreed were entitled to their human rights and self-determination with the fake Minsk Agreement, what would happen in the political crisis in Russia? We confiscated all Japanese assets, put energy embargoes on them, and threaten to prevent them from dealing with any other country for energy. Roosevelt did everything he could to get Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Biden has done the same to Russia.

The risk of overthrowing Putin would lead to a potential civil war and the further breakup of Russia with more nukes than the West. Of the 14,500 nuclear weapons on the planet, Russia and the United States own the lion's share, with a combined total of approximately 13,350 nukes. The remaining 1,150 weapons are held by seven countries. The USA has 6,500 nukes and Russia has 6,800. Destabilizing Russia is just insane. Russia will wipe out Europe in the blink of an eye if pushed and they now know that this Ukraine bullshit is really a war of the USA and NATO against Russia and we are the aggressors.
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[tvbcof]

All irrelevant. The fact that someone speaks Russian does not mean that they want to join a Russia that has been kidnapped by kleptocrats, psychotic generals and a "president" that is just like any bannana republic dictator except better armed. This war is not about culture, is not about language and is not about anything but the desire to rebuild the old USSR dominions by Putin. That is why he has to be stopped.

Umm, you know that Ukraine is exactly the same corrupt, but even more poor than Russia? And that more both Ukrainians and Russians from Ukraine went to work in Russia,
than to EU?

That's the weakest excuse for the invasion so far. You gotta do better.

Firstly, it seems to me in my observations that the Russian people, the government, and the Russian deep state learned the painful lessons of Soviet Communism and are in no hurry to repeat them.  Yes, the Communist party is still fairly strong, but not the dominant force.  I'll let a Russian speak about it, but I would expect Soviet Communism to lose rather than gain strength as the indoctrinated oldsters die off.

(I would also expect the related political ideology of Technocracy to grow with the newer generations however.  Both are totalitarian centrally planned systems which is why I put both Communism and Technocracy/classic-fascism) in the same basic category, and why both result in impressive abuse of and theft from the majority of normal people.  For obvious and predictable reasons.)

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As for excuses, it seems to me that Russia is trying hard to AVOID taking on responsibility for most parts of Ukraine or having anything to do with them aside from launching a few missiles at some infrastructure now and then.  What thinking person would even want to have possession of an unsalvageable wreck?

The answer would be the likes of the WEF, but only assuming that the land has been cleared of the human weeds via war/reverse-immigration first and is ready to sow a new crop.  The Russians seem to be unwilling to do this as a driving force...though they seem to be willing to participate in the effort if led by another party.

[BADecker]

The US and Nato didn't plan this out properly. Nobody is prepared for the gigntic war machine that Russia has put together.


It’s TOO LATE for NATO to win the war against Russia… here’s why


https://www.naturalnews.com/2023-02-01-too-late-for-nato-to-win-the-war-against-russia.html
While the prostituted propaganda media absurdly claims that Russia is retreating and NATO forces are winning the war in Ukraine, the truth is far more sobering: NATO has already lost the war with Russia. Here’s how we know:

A land war with a major military power is a long, drawn out slug fest that requires the sustained expenditure of enormous quantities of munitions: Artillery shells, rockets, missiles, small arms cartridges and so on.

To supply these munitions, a fighting force needs to be backed by a strong munitions manufacturing infrastructure or have huge stockpiles that can sustain the war while supplies are depleted. The United States has neither. No sufficiently large stockpiles and no existing munitions manufacturing infrastructure that can keep pace with Russia, which at times has expended up to 20,000 artillery rounds per day. (Note: The existing munitions infrastructure in the United States can’t even churn out that many rounds in a full month of production…)

Consider this recent article from Breitbart.com: Endless Arms Flow to Ukraine Raises Worry over U.S. Military Readiness Against China, which warns that U.S. precision-guided munitions would run out in just one week:

A recently-published think-tank analysis warned that as it currently stands, the U.S. would run out of long-range, precision-guided munitions in a war with China over Taiwan in less than a week — a problem that author Seth Jones called one of “empty bins.”

“The United States has been slow to replenish its arsenal, and the DoD has only placed on contract a fraction of the weapons it has sent to Ukraine,” Jones, a senior vice president at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) wrote.

The USA lacks raw materials and a labor pool to operate munitions factories at scale

Even more importantly, to manufacture such munitions — even if you have the infrastructure factories that can churn them out — you must have: 1) Raw materials (metals, circuit boards, cotton linters, etc.) and 2) A labor pool that is sufficiently educated and motivated to work in factories.

If you’ve never heard of cotton linters, they’re a critical component needed for the manufacture of artillery rounds. The primary source is China, and China’s exports on cotton linters are currently nine months behind schedule, causing havoc with Germany’s munitions manufacturing. As Nikkei Asia reports:
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[tvbcof]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/4KwpEJjVKbQ/

You don't particularly need to speak Polish to see the writing on the wall.  As a matter of fact, you don't actually need this kind of predictive programming at all since for almost a year making some educated guesses are enough to draw a pretty clear and accurate picture of (part of) what the future holds.

It remains as murky as ever whether Russia is being guided by a hidden hand who will ultimately be arranging a new 'pale of settlement', or whether they just want to arrange for some higher degree of security, safety, dignity, and resource exploitation for the benefit of Russia proper.

The key insight here is that the guiding forces of the U.S. and other 'progressive Western' leaderships define 'winning' as something which is 180 degrees off what most people would automatically think.  That's the danger of what is meant by enemies 'either foreign and domestic'  Russia is succeeding in the war of attrition and bleeding first Ukraine and then NATO white of resources, but to those running NATO and certain of the member counties this isn't a bug; it's a feature.  This because the current leaderships have longer term plans.

[Branko]

Any news about Kononovich brothers and other imprisoned CPU members?

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/kononovich-brothers-ukrainian-communist-youth-leaders-confirmed-to-be-alive/