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Question: Would you let AI select your sports bets?
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November 24, 2023, 12:25:53 AM
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In the future, AI will help us in various ways so that we can benefit from AI. AI is currently still in the development stage so that it can be even better and can reach a level where it can provide the results desired by humans. However, casinos will not just watch the development of AI but will prepare AI to fight AI too. And later, there will be competition between AI involving casinos and gamblers who want to win. But it looks like casinos will still make the most profits because that is their business. Meanwhile, many gamblers still experience loss because they are not yet able to use AI.
Am no ardent fan of AI still am gonna admit that AI is fast penetrating into different sectors of industries. In the development of AI into enhancing gambling predictions for both casino's and gambler's use, just as always, the casinos will have the hedge over the gamblers. How many gamblers will have the money to afford sophisticated and advanced AI tool but the casinos will be able to afford these devs to protect their business and grow profits.
AI  are machines that can only work with the information stored in it, however, gamblers should be prepared ahead learning on how to make use of these AI tools in addition to their human intelligence if they wanna stand a chance to get winnings in the near future of gambling.

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November 24, 2023, 12:35:26 AM
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AI has indeed done its job, but it is still not adequate and needs further development to be able to achieve what humans want. Humans always have creative ideas for creating something, so humans will try to make it happen even though it is difficult. And humans can definitely find a solution by finding other things that can help the AI development process. So we can only wait for the development of AI for casinos and gamblers and see the results.

Yeah, I think that AI is now like how the web was in the early 2000s. Some people use it, lots of businesses are being created around it, many people know about it, etc.

But it's still early days.

We will see what this technology is capable of doing. It still has a lot of possible growth.
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November 24, 2023, 01:12:11 PM
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Yeah, I think that AI is now like how the web was in the early 2000s. Some people use it, lots of businesses are being created around it, many people know about it, etc.

But it's still early days.

We will see what this technology is capable of doing. It still has a lot of possible growth.
That's what I predict because AI is still in its infancy, and its growth will be very fast, especially now that many developers are working to provide the AI that humans want. And as more sophisticated technology improves or is discovered, it will be integrated into AI so that it will change AI for the better. We will see what happens with AI later, and even before 5 years, there will be changes in the field of AI. Will it be like in the films we have already seen or will there be differences? Only time can answer that.

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November 30, 2023, 05:03:15 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Almost after a year after this post, it has now become a reality very close to me.

I have a close experience where a deveoper who has no direct involvement in gambling at any level has stumbled upon a betting AI and because of the tech, he decided to try it out, he actually tried two AI and one became successful and that birthed another dimension of approach towards betting for him.

Unfortnately, the winning didn't continue as he thought it would, now he is faced with the shadow of depression. In my opinion, AI isn't the best at sport betting prediction.

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December 01, 2023, 05:27:20 PM
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ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Well I've never thought of that before, but since you've just brought it to my notice, I might as well just give it a try and see just what the outcome might be. Although I feel that AI would be more advantaged when it comes to making analysis and coming up with a possible prediction and outcome of a game more than most of us could ever do. I'll let an AI give me a prediction, I'll stake it and then I'll come back to this thread to update everyone on the outcome.

I said I was going to try it and yes I did, I also promised I'd show post the result here. so here goes. I asked my WhatsApp Chat AI for a prediction on a soccer game and it did give me a prediction, I staked it and the result was fantastic. So I guess we can say it does work.
Note: that I am not recommending this to anyone, I only said it worked for me so try it out at your own risk.

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sorry but doing it once is not enough to say it works
I'd love to see the results of 100 or 1000 bets and check its win rates
my guess is that asking an LLM at this stage is not so different than flipping a coin

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December 03, 2023, 08:14:16 AM
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That's what I predict because AI is still in its infancy, and its growth will be very fast, especially now that many developers are working to provide the AI that humans want. And as more sophisticated technology improves or is discovered, it will be integrated into AI so that it will change AI for the better. We will see what happens with AI later, and even before 5 years, there will be changes in the field of AI. Will it be like in the films we have already seen or will there be differences? Only time can answer that.

The growth seen in AI applications has been incredible. In only a year or two we've seen a change from something barely functional to something that is touching every area of our lives.

In a few years we will be used to new applications that will make current life seem prehistoric.
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December 03, 2023, 03:14:55 PM
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The growth seen in AI applications has been incredible. In only a year or two we've seen a change from something barely functional to something that is touching every area of our lives.

In a few years we will be used to new applications that will make current life seem prehistoric.
There is no doubt that the growth of AI applications has developed rapidly because of the technology that helps it grow. Yes, we have seen big changes over the past few years, and we cannot imagine what will happen in the next two or five years because, by that time, the technology we have will have definitely developed far from now.

There will be many new applications that will support our lives and help us carry out daily activities. In the future, there will also be robots that will become our assistants and help us every day and provide the information we want. Technological changes in the future will also be even better than now.

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December 04, 2023, 11:49:44 AM
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There is no doubt that the growth of AI applications has developed rapidly because of the technology that helps it grow. Yes, we have seen big changes over the past few years, and we cannot imagine what will happen in the next two or five years because, by that time, the technology we have will have definitely developed far from now.

There will be many new applications that will support our lives and help us carry out daily activities. In the future, there will also be robots that will become our assistants and help us every day and provide the information we want. Technological changes in the future will also be even better than now.

In the end AI is just a tool. A very cool one though, and very promising right now.

I think that it will change society as the Internet has changed society in the past.

Whoever gets into the AI tech will be way more efficient than those who ignore it.
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December 05, 2023, 12:58:20 PM
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There is no doubt that the growth of AI applications has developed rapidly because of the technology that helps it grow. Yes, we have seen big changes over the past few years, and we cannot imagine what will happen in the next two or five years because, by that time, the technology we have will have definitely developed far from now.

There will be many new applications that will support our lives and help us carry out daily activities. In the future, there will also be robots that will become our assistants and help us every day and provide the information we want. Technological changes in the future will also be even better than now.

In the end AI is just a tool. A very cool one though, and very promising right now.

I think that it will change society as the Internet has changed society in the past.

Whoever gets into the AI tech will be way more efficient than those who ignore it.

this is for sure
I read a comparison this days, like a small championship where a contractor would decide who to contract

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December 05, 2023, 01:04:20 PM
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I read a comparison this days, like a small championship where a contractor would decide who to contract

a senior engineer doing coding from scratch
and a junior or slightly better than junior using AI tools

in the end of the day the junior was chosen because he could deliver much faster (like 3 weeks instead of 6 months, something like that) even though it was a solution that the contactor would have a bit less customization power, being able to ship fast changed everything.
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Yeah, I guess it also depends on the maturity of the application or conpany.

If it is for MVP creation, then sure. But if the product is mature, then the use of AI might be different.

It can be beneficial in many scenarios
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December 05, 2023, 01:33:01 PM
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Although Al is very popular instrument right now, but it still doesn't give you win guarantee. Anyway, it's better to rely on your own analytics.
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December 05, 2023, 02:11:36 PM
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It will be a year since this thread was created but until now no one who relies on or tested AI has a positive or accurate results it just proved that AI is not highly accurate to use in gambling betting, but AI is a big help in other sectors but not on gambling sectors there's too many uncertainty compared on other sectors where the users can grasp the facts.
When it comes to gambling there are no proven facts everything is dynamic here one athlete or team will perform better in one match but there's no guarantee that he can perform the same the next match.
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December 05, 2023, 11:54:13 PM
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Although Al is very popular instrument right now, but it still doesn't give you win guarantee. Anyway, it's better to rely on your own analytics.

But that's the whole thing. An AI might be able to give you better analytics than what you can come up with.

For example, if you know nothing about a sport, an AI can give you a list of the best teams. That's already better than your knowledge at that point.

Now, if you know a lot about some sport, you might be able to train an AI with your (and possibly others) knowledge. And then the AI will be able to mix it all up and give you a reasonable outcome.

You then always have to face the casino odds though, which usually are against you.
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December 05, 2023, 11:56:02 PM
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Although Al is very popular instrument right now, but it still doesn't give you win guarantee.
Yes, that only gives you the upperhand that you are having a source that can give you some predictions whether they'll be good or not.

Anyway, it's better to rely on your own analytics.
Or trust your own instinct and wait for your own luck to come. The interesting part of this technology is like everyone is optimistic that it's going to take over everything even in the gambling industry.

For the casinos, it's gonna be useful to automate their processes but as an individual gambler, we might be quite far into looking into that productivity and help with our bets.

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I don't know whether this is also happening in other countries, but it made me think about this topic a news I read the other day which said that that the AI had guessed the number that will be luckiest the national Christmas lottery, and that it ran out in a matter of just a few minutes. I'm very curious to see if it is right, and I would buy myself one of these tickets if it was still possible, but to be honest I don't think it will be able to guess correctly the lucky digits based on past performance. Probability doesn't work like that, until I'm proven wrong at least.

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I don't know whether this is also happening in other countries, but it made me think about this topic a news I read the other day which said that that the AI had guessed the number that will be luckiest the national Christmas lottery, and that it ran out in a matter of just a few minutes. I'm very curious to see if it is right, and I would buy myself one of these tickets if it was still possible, but to be honest I don't think it will be able to guess correctly the lucky digits based on past performance. Probability doesn't work like that, until I'm proven wrong at least.

Well, there are things that you might know that give you a bit of an advantage.

For example, try avoiding numbers lower than 31. This is because many people choose these numbers based on their birthday, so if you win, there will probably more people to share the price with.

Less people choose higher numbers, so go for those.
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I don't know whether this is also happening in other countries, but it made me think about this topic a news I read the other day which said that that the AI had guessed the number that will be luckiest the national Christmas lottery, and that it ran out in a matter of just a few minutes. I'm very curious to see if it is right, and I would buy myself one of these tickets if it was still possible, but to be honest I don't think it will be able to guess correctly the lucky digits based on past performance. Probability doesn't work like that, until I'm proven wrong at least.

depends if the system is true random or not
if it's random than past events doesn't matter
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and (please mathematicians correct me if I'm wrong) this chance is not smaller than any other outcome

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I don't know whether this is also happening in other countries, but it made me think about this topic a news I read the other day which said that that the AI had guessed the number that will be luckiest the national Christmas lottery, and that it ran out in a matter of just a few minutes. I'm very curious to see if it is right, and I would buy myself one of these tickets if it was still possible, but to be honest I don't think it will be able to guess correctly the lucky digits based on past performance. Probability doesn't work like that, until I'm proven wrong at least.

depends if the system is true random or not
if it's random than past events doesn't matter
there is the chance that a true random system returns the same result every time
and (please mathematicians correct me if I'm wrong) this chance is not smaller than any other outcome

There I can say many things, because the AI that Manages to predict in 100% random systems would be in the hands of a power and not of technology, because the fact of predicting like this using mathematics, which for me is always the right thing to do, Well, I would be creating something more than an AI, it is like a being that is above humans and above technology, and there is a danger that it will fall into the hands of a terrorist or something like that, because something like that has to do With the psychic part and I don't know , but to make a prodigy aware of something like that, and it would be another being and it is even somewhat scary, because you can make many Simulations of wars and things like that.

I have seen that there are many AIs, but it seems to me that it is like a dictionary, or that it is like searching on Google, I have not seen anything that Surprises me , but technology advances and advances and means that it can generate many good and progress, Everything is allowed I think.

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December 13, 2023, 01:46:10 AM
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depends if the system is true random or not
if it's random than past events doesn't matter
there is the chance that a true random system returns the same result every time
and (please mathematicians correct me if I'm wrong) this chance is not smaller than any other outcome

An event can depend on the past, but most gambling events are designed so that they are independent of the past.

For example, getting a number six on a dice now is independent of how many times the dice has been thrown before, and how many sixes have appeared so far. The odds of getting a six next is still 1/6.

Now, there are real world circumstances that you might use to your advantage.

For example, lotto numbers or similar, where you have to pick numbers from a pool. Usually people go with dates, so numbers between 1 and 31. Any higher number will have slightly less people playing them, so you will have slightly less chances of sharing your prize if you happen to win.

Note that the odds for each number is still the same though, a 32 is as possible to be drawn as a 31, but as I mentioned before slightly more people will choose those lower ones.

With things like that you can make your luck a bit better.
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~snip~
depends if the system is true random or not
if it's random than past events doesn't matter
there is the chance that a true random system returns the same result every time
and (please mathematicians correct me if I'm wrong) this chance is not smaller than any other outcome

An event can depend on the past, but most gambling events are designed so that they are independent of the past.

For example, getting a number six on a dice now is independent of how many times the dice has been thrown before, and how many sixes have appeared so far. The odds of getting a six next is still 1/6.

Now, there are real world circumstances that you might use to your advantage.

For example, lotto numbers or similar, where you have to pick numbers from a pool. Usually people go with dates, so numbers between 1 and 31. Any higher number will have slightly less people playing them, so you will have slightly less chances of sharing your prize if you happen to win.

Note that the odds for each number is still the same though, a 32 is as possible to be drawn as a 31, but as I mentioned before slightly more people will choose those lower ones.

With things like that you can make your luck a bit better.

but... this wouldn't make your luck better if your numbers are never choosen, at the end of the day I don't really think it's worth to consider if other people are betting in the same numbers as you or not, you have no way to control it...
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