[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[DaNNy001]

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Specifically, AI can only predict the outcome of a game based on data and statistics from previous events that occurred in that manner. Even though it is not prone to error in how it is designed to function, it can never be 100% accurate. However, predicting the outcome of a match that is not played within its control is impossible.

Even when given ample data and information about two opposing teams, humans make mistakes. We can't expect AI to outperform them in terms of final results, but it can outperform us in statistical analysis. I disagree with the notion that AI will produce accurate results.

Betting agencies have been using machine learning models to estimate their odds for decades now.

They will continue updating their models with the latest advances in AI, and it will get more accurate over time.

But as we just saw in Qatar 2022, they predicted Brazil to be the winner, but in the end it was Argentina the one who won.

So, just now we have proof that these fantastic AI systems still can get it wrong.

I never even knew artificial intelligence was used to predict or select games for individuals. But with the experience i have gotten from years gambling, i think artificial intelligence can actually give the wrong predictions sometimes,  because an AI  can only give a prediction on a game base on the stats it will gather all around the internet on that match, which may turn out to be false in some cases like the prediction of the world cup winner you mentioned. So its better i just actually predict my games myself and hope on to be lucky.

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[maydna]

Even humans itself have never been accurate when it comes to predicting football matches, so why do you think an ordinary A.I should do? What I meant is that with A.I, it gives you a clear picture of making a better prediction base on it's ability to give a detail run down of both teams head to head analysis, while left for you to choose which  moneyline you think sorts best, or could likely play.

Note: A.I can only help you in making the right prediction, but that doesn't guarantee its 100% accuracy

Specifically, AI can only predict the outcome of a game based on data and statistics from previous events that occurred in that manner. Even though it is not prone to error in how it is designed to function, it can never be 100% accurate. However, predicting the outcome of a match that is not played within its control is impossible.

Even when given ample data and information about two opposing teams, humans make mistakes. We can't expect AI to outperform them in terms of final results, but it can outperform us in statistical analysis. I disagree with the notion that AI will produce accurate results.

I agree with A.I can only help make or analyze predictions but cannot guarantee 100% accuracy because to be able to get truly 100% results requires time and better technology. The developers really have to have the right algorithm so that A.I can collect data accurately and give it to us to choose the right team too. With A.I, it will help us get the data we need in a short time so that it can add information to us and it doesn't take long to choose the team.

[Chikito]

I never even knew artificial intelligence was used to predict or select games for individuals. But with the experience i have gotten from years gambling, i think artificial intelligence can actually give the wrong predictions sometimes,  because an AI  can only give a prediction on a game base on the stats it will gather all around the internet on that match, which may turn out to be false in some cases like the prediction of the world cup winner you mentioned. So its better i just actually predict my games myself and hope on to be lucky.

As many comments and posts above, The AI is just a program who made by humans. If The AI guesses and bets 100% correct, that possibility who get rich is the people that made the AI. the Logic is he will 1st time know who the winning if bets like a football than a robot he made.

So, the AI right now is still unexpected if we compare it as we watch the movie.

[xSkylarx]

The results of ChatGPT are sometimes not relevant since I used this in my job (automation scripts) it sends outdated data sometimes the response was out of topic and more on generalization so I conclude that we should not rely on it 100% but it is helpful so predicting outcomes in gambling or on sports betting I rather want to get the opinions of sports bettor than the AI since they have more experience and they can able to predict the next move unlike AI that is using only data and sometimes irrelevant.

[nullama]

The results of ChatGPT are sometimes not relevant since I used this in my job (automation scripts) it sends outdated data sometimes the response was out of topic and more on generalization so I conclude that we should not rely on it 100% but it is helpful so predicting outcomes in gambling or on sports betting I rather want to get the opinions of sports bettor than the AI since they have more experience and they can able to predict the next move unlike AI that is using only data and sometimes irrelevant.

Well, yeah, but the thing is that it's a tool, so it can be used to predict certain common things, and to make predictions faster for example.

So it can be used, but it's not like a crystal ball or something magical like that.

[QueenVera]

I haven't really seen or heard of the predictions of chatGPT and I will love to see and try it myself and I will be glad if anyone has the link to it.
Most times I've heard people talking about letting some artificial intelligence do sporting analysis and predictions for them and I really don't think this is a nice move because this predictions are based on some certain yardsticks.

I once had a friend who never did a successful prediction for himself and he always prefer a s relies on the predictions from artificial intelligence (AI)  and most times he always comes out successful and at times, I get tempted to join the league of those who also depend on AI but I trust my predictions rather.

[TheGreatPython]

I haven't really seen or heard of the predictions of chatGPT and I will love to see and try it myself and I will be glad if anyone has the link to it.
Most times I've heard people talking about letting some artificial intelligence do sporting analysis and predictions for them and I really don't think this is a nice move because this predictions are based on some certain yardsticks.

I once had a friend who never did a successful prediction for himself and he always prefer a s relies on the predictions from artificial intelligence (AI)  and most times he always comes out successful and at times, I get tempted to join the league of those who also depend on AI but I trust my predictions rather.

You can just google this one out; here is a link for you: https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt. Peace .

This new piece of software is so popular and I am seeing positive feedback about it on social media sites but if you haven't yet then I guess you should be the one to try/test it on your own but I don't think the bot will function very well now, since it might have been adjusted already as there might be people, schools, organization and companies who are complaining about it and they report it as most people are only dependent on it and not doing their jobs properly anymore.

[klidex]

I never even knew artificial intelligence was used to predict or select games for individuals. But with the experience i have gotten from years gambling, i think artificial intelligence can actually give the wrong predictions sometimes,  because an AI  can only give a prediction on a game base on the stats it will gather all around the internet on that match, which may turn out to be false in some cases like the prediction of the world cup winner you mentioned. So its better i just actually predict my games myself and hope on to be lucky.

As many comments and posts above, The AI is just a program who made by humans. If The AI guesses and bets 100% correct, that possibility who get rich is the people that made the AI. the Logic is he will 1st time know who the winning if bets like a football than a robot he made.

So, the AI right now is still unexpected if we compare it as we watch the movie.

That's right and in the end it's only the owner of the AL program who gets the profit. What if in having a good and right prediction he will also bet a large amount of the results of the predictions he makes and on the other hand he also sells his prediction information to others.
If the prediction is not correct, then the AL owner still benefits from selling the prediction information he has made so that he can cover his losses in betting that prediction.
I think in this era there are lots of ways to make money quickly and easily just by relying on intelligence in the world of gambling.

[SquallLeonhart]

Today I used chatgpt a bit to see how it is, and I couldn't believe how amazing it is. I have to say, there is of course a limit to what AI can do and predicting outcome of a game is not there right now. But finally we are talking about a bot that could write a book, it could literally be the most read author of our time by the time we are dead, because it could write so many books. There are some people who have already done that, wrote books using chatgpt and published it.

So at the end of the day, we are talking about something that is capable of creativity and maybe predicting games could be something it may do as well, still fail like us, but at least smarter than most people.

[mvdheuvel1983]

I think sport betting will be too complicated for the AI to bet on because there are numerous types of betting. Even at that, it would require a techie to be able to configure the model to make predictions.
I have never used it though, so I am just assuming that these are the likely drawbacks for using AI for prediction.

[Viscore]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

I guess that alone is enough answer whether AI can predict outcomes or not. Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

Yes, it’s now clear enough that AI is not reliable when it comes to predicting sports betting outcome. It’s still best to have your own knowledge on the game, on the teams playing, on the individual performance of the team members, that way you will know who’s likely to win. Also, when it comes to money, we don’t have to rely it to others or to any machine, it’s still best to rely on a human intelligence and skills.

[nullama]

I think sport betting will be too complicated for the AI to bet on because there are numerous types of betting. Even at that, it would require a techie to be able to configure the model to make predictions.
I have never used it though, so I am just assuming that these are the likely drawbacks for using AI for prediction.

The current capabilities of AI can definitely be used to have some reasonable estimations of betting odds for a sporting event.

It sounds like science fiction, but in the last year or two there have been massive advances in AI and these things are starting to become real.

And they're getting better every few months.

So yeah, you could use an AI to predict the odds, but the casinos also will probably use them, so not much can be won by a person I think.

[Betwrong]

I lately heard from friend that he used ai to get opinion about his homework (assignment) at university. Well there are many different possibilities which we never used. I think AI may learn how to properly calculate outcomes of best and pick best outcome ever. That would change gambling totally like, gambling houses or sites will never completely surrender so they may offer you far less money than usual etc.

Again, AI should be connected to the internet to have an opportunity to predict future events with the accuracy you are talking about. ChatGPT is not connected to the internet. Moreover, its database is not even updated on monthly basis.

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

Fair enough. Good thing they have embedded this reply to the bot so that there already is a heads up when it comes to these questions. Its creators know that there will be people that will use the AI to predict certain events, so they already prevented that to happen by placing disclaimers about this non-feature on the AI.
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I personally don't think that it was an "embedded reply". I believe that ChatGPT doesn't possess such things at all, and all its replies are genuinely generated by the AI. That's how it's different from what we call "bots".

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I think sport betting will be too complicated for the AI to bet on because there are numerous types of betting. Even at that, it would require a techie to be able to configure the model to make predictions.
I have never used it though, so I am just assuming that these are the likely drawbacks for using AI for prediction.

The current capabilities of AI can definitely be used to have some reasonable estimations of betting odds for a sporting event.

It sounds like science fiction, but in the last year or two there have been massive advances in AI and these things are starting to become real.

And they're getting better every few months.

So yeah, you could use an AI to predict the odds, but the casinos also will probably use them, so not much can be won by a person I think.

People should realize this because if they could able to take advantage on using up these AI's then they should be mindful about on how bookies would be using it up too.Its impossible that they would really be making

themselves get left behind with the scene or condition on which they would really be loving to stake one step ahead out of its bettors.If it was really that something relevant or working then each one of us would really be using it for our advantage but this isnt the case that we are seeing.Its never been recommendable on making use of this AI.

Yes, it might be helpful on some key areas but this isnt something that fits out on something that needs some speculation and future guesses.

[AmoreJaz]

I think sport betting will be too complicated for the AI to bet on because there are numerous types of betting. Even at that, it would require a techie to be able to configure the model to make predictions.
I have never used it though, so I am just assuming that these are the likely drawbacks for using AI for prediction.

The current capabilities of AI can definitely be used to have some reasonable estimations of betting odds for a sporting event.

It sounds like science fiction, but in the last year or two there have been massive advances in AI and these things are starting to become real.

And they're getting better every few months.

So yeah, you could use an AI to predict the odds, but the casinos also will probably use them, so not much can be won by a person I think.

People should realize this because if they could able to take advantage on using up these AI's then they should be mindful about on how bookies would be using it up too.Its impossible that they would really be making

themselves get left behind with the scene or condition on which they would really be loving to stake one step ahead out of its bettors.If it was really that something relevant or working then each one of us would really be using it for our advantage but this isnt the case that we are seeing.Its never been recommendable on making use of this AI.

Yes, it might be helpful on some key areas but this isnt something that fits out on something that needs some speculation and future guesses.

definitely, if bettors can use AI and so are the bookies. they won't let themselves get left behind by tech. but it depends on how the AI is programmed. there are too many factors to consider before you can tell that the AI is actually ready for this kind of work. but yes, it needs time when it comes to development. if bettors can use it to their advantage, bookies may also have found a way how to counteract this technique.

[boyptc]

definitely, if bettors can use AI and so are the bookies. they won't let themselves get left behind by tech. but it depends on how the AI is programmed. there are too many factors to consider before you can tell that the AI is actually ready for this kind of work. but yes, it needs time when it comes to development. if bettors can use it to their advantage, bookies may also have found a way how to counteract this technique.

I wonder how they're going to counteract it since it's just all about sportsbetting. The bookies don't have the holdings to move anything when the games are actually played by players/athletes and teams that we bet with.

So, I don't understand if ever they'll make something out of it just to counter those bettors that ask an Ai on which team/player they should bet with.

It's mostly going to be a waste of resources and money if they do so and worry much about it because at the end, the bettors will just have to pick one from 1, 2, 3 or so choices.

Casinos can't control the result of actual matches even if an Ai gives a prediction.

[LUCKMCFLY]

But people still uses A.I in trading and are making huge profits.

Do you mean a Trading Bot here? If that is, I think we can't compare it to an AI as trading bots follows the algorithm based on how the user set it up, in other words just follow the set command of its user. Different from the literal AI that no need for such manual setup command but instead will adopt based on the market trend and will execute the best possible trading actions on a given trend.

So why do you think such can't be made especially in football whereby all records, team performance, number of corners, team with the most ball possession, total number of match won are always uploaded online immediately after each game or even during the game.

Because regardless of any professional technical sports analysis, sports results can't be predicted accurately.

Maybe the Moneyline can be predicted at a higher rate by these AIs but what about other betting options such as handicap, point spread, total, and other betting options? Not all bettors always bet on Moneyline. There are lots of betting options each sport leagues.

Making AI useless when it comes to predicting the outcome of a match. And also the ChatGPT AI needs an update. Anyone would be able to see it through its replies when asked about matches. It couldn't pull the data it needs, all the more with these betting options.

Bookies may not also want AI to give any information about matches. One that I can imagine that bookies might do in order for AI to not work is to prevent the spider bots from crawling onto thier websites. Avoid them from indexing any information, I'm sure they have the grounds for doing so.

What happens is that the ChatGPT has information up to 2021, obviously it has how to make the predictions, but obviously they will not launch it, I don't know under what criteria they will be able to make a prediction, but if we start to see the mathematical and statistical criteria it is super advanced, I would make some kind of prediction based on mathematics and probabilities but I know that my results would not be accurate, because everything is based on trial and error, on the other hand, the AI learns too quickly, in 1 hour it already knows as if If people were in this trade for 30 years, predictions cannot really be made for now, due to the programming that does not allow it, it would be a matter of testing.

[bittraffic]

But people still uses A.I in trading and are making huge profits.

Do you mean a Trading Bot here? If that is, I think we can't compare it to an AI as trading bots follows the algorithm based on how the user set it up, in other words just follow the set command of its user. Different from the literal AI that no need for such manual setup command but instead will adopt based on the market trend and will execute the best possible trading actions on a given trend.

So why do you think such can't be made especially in football whereby all records, team performance, number of corners, team with the most ball possession, total number of match won are always uploaded online immediately after each game or even during the game.

Because regardless of any professional technical sports analysis, sports results can't be predicted accurately.

Maybe the Moneyline can be predicted at a higher rate by these AIs but what about other betting options such as handicap, point spread, total, and other betting options? Not all bettors always bet on Moneyline. There are lots of betting options each sport leagues.

Making AI useless when it comes to predicting the outcome of a match. And also the ChatGPT AI needs an update. Anyone would be able to see it through its replies when asked about matches. It couldn't pull the data it needs, all the more with these betting options.

Bookies may not also want AI to give any information about matches. One that I can imagine that bookies might do in order for AI to not work is to prevent the spider bots from crawling onto thier websites. Avoid them from indexing any information, I'm sure they have the grounds for doing so.

What happens is that the ChatGPT has information up to 2021, obviously it has how to make the predictions, but obviously they will not launch it, I don't know under what criteria they will be able to make a prediction, but if we start to see the mathematical and statistical criteria it is super advanced, I would make some kind of prediction based on mathematics and probabilities but I know that my results would not be accurate, because everything is based on trial and error, on the other hand, the AI learns too quickly, in 1 hour it already knows as if If people were in this trade for 30 years, predictions cannot really be made for now, due to the programming that does not allow it, it would be a matter of testing.

Predictions are predictions and they can't be 100% correct. The AI can actually get the data from sportsman records and stats on Wikipedia if the creator of ChatGPT allows it and starts from there which AI can generate a possible outcome. But eventually, right after its prediction, it will also remind us about prediction is just a prediction and it couldn't be correct until it happens.

When its predictions fail, this AI wouldn't be useful for bettors to use. That's a conclusion one would think after relying on it.

[molsewid]

What happens is that the ChatGPT has information up to 2021, obviously it has how to make the predictions, but obviously they will not launch it, I don't know under what criteria they will be able to make a prediction, but if we start to see the mathematical and statistical criteria it is super advanced, I would make some kind of prediction based on mathematics and probabilities but I know that my results would not be accurate, because everything is based on trial and error, on the other hand, the AI learns too quickly, in 1 hour it already knows as if If people were in this trade for 30 years, predictions cannot really be made for now, due to the programming that does not allow it, it would be a matter of testing.

Predictions are predictions and they can't be 100% correct. The AI can actually get the data from sportsman records and stats on Wikipedia if the creator of ChatGPT allows it and starts from there which AI can generate a possible outcome. But eventually, right after its prediction, it will also remind us about prediction is just a prediction and it couldn't be correct until it happens.

When its predictions fail, this AI wouldn't be useful for bettors to use. That's a conclusion one would think after relying on it.
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Yes, there will be still some Flaws. There will be some algorithm they are using just only for casinos and eventually they are about to update it since everyone knows that AI can be used in casinos as well. AI or trading bots or if there's a gambling bots available still I knew that they are not 100% accurate yes but then it is still useful. if he is referring to chatgpt, I wonder how does this bot behave in the future.

[OgNasty]

I don’t think anyone is saying that AI will be able to correctly predict the winner of a sporting event anywhere near 100% accuracy. I’m just curious if it could do better than the average gambler. Maybe put AI to the test in a head to head competition with someone who thinks they are good at sporting predictions to see how they perform. As soon as I figure out how to trick AI into making these predictions, I’ll give it a shot.