[POLL] Using AI to predict outcomes

[KTChampions]

Anything that can be expressed in numbers AI can process better than humans, so we can say that if somewhere AI is still not good enough, it's only because humans (or automated tools) are not good enough at digitizing some data. If there is some data that cannot be digitized (for example, mood or something like that), then this is also easily taken into account in the forecast simply based on statistics - for example, in women's tennis, which is famous for being more random than men's quotes for winning a set/game, they have a corresponding adjustment.

so based on what you explained, AI still depends on some data that can be digitized and some data that cannot be digitized will need help from humans. AI will help in terms of data processing to make it more perfect.
Every system is not perfect, there will be some weaknesses that require contributions from other systems. AI is only artificial intelligence that can still be engineered, and there will be some bugs that might occur.

At the moment this is the case, but this does not mean that nothing will change. If you remember, at first the simplest prototypes of AI (neural networks) in order to succeed in games (chess, renju, go) were trained with the help of a person. The second stage was that they self-learned completely without human intervention. Over time, this may happen in sports analytics, although now it sounds fantastic.

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[dothebeats]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

Fair enough. Good thing they have embedded this reply to the bot so that there already is a heads up when it comes to these questions. Its creators know that there will be people that will use the AI to predict certain events, so they already prevented that to happen by placing disclaimers about this non-feature on the AI.

Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

There are a lot of AIs that are already predicting short-term events such as the one that they use in stock market firms. They have banked a lot on these AI to make predictions out of past movements and a lot of other algorithms to make them some money, and I think those are working quite well because they are constantly developing those AIs to adapt to the situation. I guess those AIs may not be able to predict NBA games and sports events, but they can be utilized by those in the finance sector to make decisions on the fly and convert those into profits.

[Distinctin]

It would be interesting only in the sense that AI and more specifically ChatGPT what it does is that it collects information based on what you ask and shows you a big text as an answer to what you have asked.This can be important and a really good feature to use for us sport bettors that don't have time to check all the predictions websites ourselves and ChatGPT can come in handy as it can show us information collected from all these sites so we can immediately have an overview of what other people think for the event we are about to bet on.

^Probably I will give it a try, there is nothing wrong with that. If the AI will give a result the same as my prediction, probably I will follow AI. It needs time to prove if the AI gives consistency in results. But if proven that AI is not reliable in prediction, I will definitely rather use my own predictions rather than rely on the AI's hand. To be honest, I did not use AI or any bots to predict betting, I always have my own research before putting my fund into a betting place and make sure I have a background on the players. So it depends on the result if I am satisfied with it.

It’s not bad if we also try how reliable this AI, because if it can actually give us good outcome particularly in sports betting, then why not? But it should never a big amount at first, just the minimal one so that once it’s lose, it won’t be a big deal for us. I have not encountered using this AI nor heard from other gamblers that they are actually using this one, as I’m more into self-analysis from the facts I’ve gained, but if they can be reliable in some aspects, I think they can be worth trying too with sports betting.

[Vaculin]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

I guess that alone is enough answer whether AI can predict outcomes or not. Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

You are right in this part mate. That answer of AI alone clearly tell that they will never be reliable in sports betting as every outcome or end game comes with surprise as to how each player performs in the game, regardless if there are current issues that have suddenly arises while the game is ongoing. But with respect to AI, let’s give them enough time to improve their system and after that, maybe we can already rely to their predictions.

[Russlenat]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

I guess that alone is enough answer whether AI can predict outcomes or not. Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

Let’s just say that AI may be good in some aspects when it comes to giving accurate answers but I don’t see it working when it comes to gambling predictions. Especially in sports betting where everything relies on team member’s performance and to say that they comes with uncertain moves, so every details in it would never be accurately predicted. It’s still best to settle with our own good and practical analysis based on real events, especially that we are betting our own money on this.

[BitcoinPanther]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

I guess that alone is enough answer whether AI can predict outcomes or not. Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

You are right in this part mate. That answer of AI alone clearly tell that they will never be reliable in sports betting as every outcome or end game comes with surprise as to how each player performs in the game, regardless if there are current issues that have suddenly arises while the game is ongoing. But with respect to AI, let’s give them enough time to improve their system and after that, maybe we can already rely to their predictions.

I believe chatgpt last training data cut off is 2021. so basically the information chatgpt has is only until 2021 and as far as I know chatgpt AI is not programmed to gather information on the internet so there is really no way for chatgpt to know the outcome of sports nor compare the team statistics because its access is very limited.  That said, I also think that AI having limited access will no way predict the sports outcome precisely.

[Fatunad]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

I guess that alone is enough answer whether AI can predict outcomes or not. Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

Let’s just say that AI may be good in some aspects when it comes to giving accurate answers but I don’t see it working when it comes to gambling predictions. Especially in sports betting where everything relies on team member’s performance and to say that they comes with uncertain moves, so every details in it would never be accurately predicted. It’s still best to settle with our own good and practical analysis based on real events, especially that we are betting our own money on this.

When we do talk about speculative approach or something that do really talks about in this regard then AI isnt something that you could really rely or depend on.When it comes to information seeking
and facts then no doubt that these things are really indeed helpful but on speculations and presumptions then it isnt something that they could well handled and there's no much better compared
to human beings which are really that much better when it comes to handling out and making up guesses basing on the current events that they are seeing or witnessing which
is something that AI couldnt be able to handle it out on point.

[ethereumhunter]

Let’s just say that AI may be good in some aspects when it comes to giving accurate answers but I don’t see it working when it comes to gambling predictions. Especially in sports betting where everything relies on team member’s performance and to say that they comes with uncertain moves, so every details in it would never be accurately predicted. It’s still best to settle with our own good and practical analysis based on real events, especially that we are betting our own money on this.

There may be a time when AI can really help us collect the data we need to choose a team with greater potential to win than the opposing team. And if this can happen, people who use AI technology can expect to win from the sports bets they choose. In addition, later, by using AI technology, we can get useful information for us and provide more data about each team's game. But we must remember that even though we can get more information, we still have to limit the use of money to bet.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Let’s just say that AI may be good in some aspects when it comes to giving accurate answers but I don’t see it working when it comes to gambling predictions. Especially in sports betting where everything relies on team member’s performance and to say that they comes with uncertain moves, so every details in it would never be accurately predicted. It’s still best to settle with our own good and practical analysis based on real events, especially that we are betting our own money on this.

But people still uses A.I in trading and are making huge profits. So why do you think such can't be made especially in football whereby all records, team performance, number of corners, team with the most ball possession, total number of match won are always uploaded online immediately after each game or even during the game. Because there is equally no best sport an A.I can predict better than Soccer, MMA, Basketball, table tennis and American football, simply because all the data it needs for analysis is already available online.
So this A.I "ChatGPT" ever since it was released in December last year, has proven A.I can actually do a whole lot of thing. And there is this rumor I just heard about "Microsoft" promising to support the company behind t ChatGPT with $20billion, but don't know how true is this.
Moreover, I just checked the site now, and found out ChatGPT is currently on an upgrade due to the massive increase in site traffic and equally planning to include both free and professional (paid) version.

[harizen]

But people still uses A.I in trading and are making huge profits.

Do you mean a Trading Bot here? If that is, I think we can't compare it to an AI as trading bots follows the algorithm based on how the user set it up, in other words just follow the set command of its user. Different from the literal AI that no need for such manual setup command but instead will adopt based on the market trend and will execute the best possible trading actions on a given trend.

So why do you think such can't be made especially in football whereby all records, team performance, number of corners, team with the most ball possession, total number of match won are always uploaded online immediately after each game or even during the game.

Because regardless of any professional technical sports analysis, sports results can't be predicted accurately.

Maybe the Moneyline can be predicted at a higher rate by these AIs but what about other betting options such as handicap, point spread, total, and other betting options? Not all bettors always bet on Moneyline. There are lots of betting options each sport leagues.

[Dickiy]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Basically this AI is made by humans where the results of the AI itself are the results of formula analysis and data input into the AI, so AI can respond to what we ask, but unfortunately there are some questions that Ai cannot respond to because there are some that are like local team matches because of the data that hasn't been entered into AI yet, so it might still be limited to popular matches.
I haven't tried using AI technology here to help me decide where to bet in football or other sports, but it seems interesting to bet using the help of AI that is being talked about a lot.

[bittraffic]

But people still uses A.I in trading and are making huge profits.

Do you mean a Trading Bot here? If that is, I think we can't compare it to an AI as trading bots follows the algorithm based on how the user set it up, in other words just follow the set command of its user. Different from the literal AI that no need for such manual setup command but instead will adopt based on the market trend and will execute the best possible trading actions on a given trend.

So why do you think such can't be made especially in football whereby all records, team performance, number of corners, team with the most ball possession, total number of match won are always uploaded online immediately after each game or even during the game.

Because regardless of any professional technical sports analysis, sports results can't be predicted accurately.

Maybe the Moneyline can be predicted at a higher rate by these AIs but what about other betting options such as handicap, point spread, total, and other betting options? Not all bettors always bet on Moneyline. There are lots of betting options each sport leagues.

Making AI useless when it comes to predicting the outcome of a match. And also the ChatGPT AI needs an update. Anyone would be able to see it through its replies when asked about matches. It couldn't pull the data it needs, all the more with these betting options.

Bookies may not also want AI to give any information about matches. One that I can imagine that bookies might do in order for AI to not work is to prevent the spider bots from crawling onto thier websites. Avoid them from indexing any information, I'm sure they have the grounds for doing so.

[Fredomago]

Let’s just say that AI may be good in some aspects when it comes to giving accurate answers but I don’t see it working when it comes to gambling predictions. Especially in sports betting where everything relies on team member’s performance and to say that they comes with uncertain moves, so every details in it would never be accurately predicted. It’s still best to settle with our own good and practical analysis based on real events, especially that we are betting our own money on this.

There may be a time when AI can really help us collect the data we need to choose a team with greater potential to win than the opposing team. And if this can happen, people who use AI technology can expect to win from the sports bets they choose. In addition, later, by using AI technology, we can get useful information for us and provide more data about each team's game. But we must remember that even though we can get more information, we still have to limit the use of money to bet.

Assuming that AI will collect all the information and we can use it as basis, I agree that it can help in terms of possibilities but since it will be use for gambling, we should also need to consider that shit can happen and even how high your trust with the team or player still can suffer from losses, AI can manage to collect good information but there's always luck that we need in order to win.

Also, good managing of your bankroll can maximize the use of AI as you can always move on if things won't favor your position.

[Woodie]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

ChatGPT is the talk of the day and imo I would never allow a bot to predict my outcomes because I believe it's predictions wouldn't be any different from how a bookmaker comes up with the odds based on history of the teams, form, injuries etc and we all know that these numbers don't always play out in favor of the favorite team as these games aren't run by some computer program  but by sweat and blood.

At this point people are just being overzealous of this AI and need to get back to reality asap!

[molsewid]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Oh, I didn't know that we can use CHATGPT in gambling. But then, I don't believe that it can help too much, but it is possible indeed. Knowing that it is all run by algorithm, it might take time to know the pattern or algorithm of the game it needs more samples and other info but it has a limitation of course, every thing has its own limitations and we cannot deny the fact that chatgpt might be useful but who knows other casinos will use chatgpt as well to prevent these thing to happen.

[OgNasty]

I tried to ask ChatGPT if it can predict the winner of an NBA game and this is what it said:

I am not able to predict the winner of NBA games because I am a language model trained on a large dataset of text and do not have access to real-time information about the games or the teams. Additionally, there are many factors that can affect the outcome of a game, such as injuries, team dynamics, and the performance of individual players, that are difficult to predict.

I guess that alone is enough answer whether AI can predict outcomes or not. Maybe there are some here who can crack the code and can get something from the ChatGPT, but I guess relying on statistics is way better than relying on AI when it comes to predicting outcomes. Another question is that, can you trust your money to an AI? ChatGPT isn't updated and the information that it is giving to us are the ones that it got until 2021 which means what happened in 2022 and this year (if there are some) aren't in the ChatGPT therefore, it is a bit of outdated. Nevertheless, give it at least 3-5 years then we will see a better one than what we are seeing right now.

My understanding is that you can trick the bot into giving you answers with some well thought out questions.  I haven't gotten to play with ChatGPT yet, but I've seen plenty of examples of people getting it to do things it isn't programmed to do.  It may not be the most accurate, but I'm sure there's a way to do it.  One of these days I will be bored enough at a computer to give it a try and report back.  Hopefully someone else will beat me to it because I don't want to be the AI gambler guy.  I'll give it a shot eventually though if nobody else figures it out. 

[darewaller]

ChatGPT is all the rage at the moment. I’ve seen that people are asking it to predict sporting events. Would you leave gambling decisions up to artificial intelligence? Do you see any potential drawbacks for outsourcing your bets to a software program? Has anyone here tried this yet? Do we need someone to put together a thread of ChatGPT predictions to see how accurate they are?  Any other thoughts?

Basically this AI is made by humans where the results of the AI itself are the results of formula analysis and data input into the AI, so AI can respond to what we ask, but unfortunately there are some questions that Ai cannot respond to because there are some that are like local team matches because of the data that hasn't been entered into AI yet, so it might still be limited to popular matches.
I haven't tried using AI technology here to help me decide where to bet in football or other sports, but it seems interesting to bet using the help of AI that is being talked about a lot.

I would guess that "AI" that they are promoting is basically what the openai team puts into it and nothing more. Basically give it all the wikipedia and academic research results and let it be how it is, and maybe fixed by all the responses eventually.

There is a good chance that it could get better in the future but for the time being it doesn't have thoughts and as long as it doesn't have that, it's just a google search engine that is doing a better job and nothing more, it's literally a google that chats with you, that's the maximum capability it has and that is why it won't be able to calculate games and tell you who could win in that game or not.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

So why do you think such can't be made especially in football whereby all records, team performance, number of corners, team with the most ball possession, total number of match won are always uploaded online immediately after each game or even during the game.

Because regardless of any professional technical sports analysis, sports results can't be predicted accurately.

Maybe the Moneyline can be predicted at a higher rate by these AIs but what about other betting options such as handicap, point spread, total, and other betting options? Not all bettors always bet on Moneyline. There are lots of betting options each sport leagues.

Even humans itself have never been accurate when it comes to predicting football matches, so why do you think an ordinary A.I should do? What I meant is that with A.I, it gives you a clear picture of making a better prediction base on it's ability to give a detail run down of both teams head to head analysis, while left for you to choose which  moneyline you think sorts best, or could likely play.

Note: A.I can only help you in making the right prediction, but that doesn't guarantee its 100% accuracy

[Asiska02]

Even humans itself have never been accurate when it comes to predicting football matches, so why do you think an ordinary A.I should do? What I meant is that with A.I, it gives you a clear picture of making a better prediction base on it's ability to give a detail run down of both teams head to head analysis, while left for you to choose which  moneyline you think sorts best, or could likely play.

Note: A.I can only help you in making the right prediction, but that doesn't guarantee its 100% accuracy

Specifically, AI can only predict the outcome of a game based on data and statistics from previous events that occurred in that manner. Even though it is not prone to error in how it is designed to function, it can never be 100% accurate. However, predicting the outcome of a match that is not played within its control is impossible.

Even when given ample data and information about two opposing teams, humans make mistakes. We can't expect AI to outperform them in terms of final results, but it can outperform us in statistical analysis. I disagree with the notion that AI will produce accurate results.

[nullama]

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Specifically, AI can only predict the outcome of a game based on data and statistics from previous events that occurred in that manner. Even though it is not prone to error in how it is designed to function, it can never be 100% accurate. However, predicting the outcome of a match that is not played within its control is impossible.

Even when given ample data and information about two opposing teams, humans make mistakes. We can't expect AI to outperform them in terms of final results, but it can outperform us in statistical analysis. I disagree with the notion that AI will produce accurate results.

Betting agencies have been using machine learning models to estimate their odds for decades now.

They will continue updating their models with the latest advances in AI, and it will get more accurate over time.

But as we just saw in Qatar 2022, they predicted Brazil to be the winner, but in the end it was Argentina the one who won.

So, just now we have proof that these fantastic AI systems still can get it wrong.