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September 19, 2024, 12:52:49 PM
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Personally, I think that Kamala Harris will defeat Donald Trump in the US presidential election.
Donald Trump could easily beat Joe Biden, but any other Democratic candidate is guaranteed to give him a lot of trouble...

Recently, there were political debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. I watched these debates. Kamala Harris was talking nonsense and laughing a lot.

At the same time, Donald Trump, a good speaker in the past, was unable to convincingly refute her arguments or at least show the viewers and listeners how incompetent Kamala Harris is. And this is a very big failure for Donald Trump.

He needed to convincingly win these political debates.

 
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I didnt take the debate as a big loss, but it wasnt a win for Trump like he somehow pulled off vs Biden compartively.   Harris appeared most focused on not getting in any fluster or knocked sideways by some wild or personally insulting claims.    The exchanges as is true in all politics arent always going to be true, its the public impression or message that is conveyed.

  For now I'll rate them 50/50 till I can discern otherwise, popular vote goes to Harris but its more nuanced then a simple reflection of poll numbers.  We could for example pay reference to the prospect or reading of GDP figures, possible recession etc. external factors could matter more as Harris is not new to this administration.
  A half percent cut to base rates by the FED would seem to signal recession is possible and since statistics are retrospective it may already be true hence applicable to voter sentiment in the election.

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September 19, 2024, 01:34:03 PM
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I think moderators did not do so bad for Trump to complain about them, actually, it would seem to me he is upset because those moderators fack-checked the thing he was claiming to be true on live TV. In the previous debate, when he faced Joe Biden, he was able to lie with confidence and unchallenged neither by Biden or the moderators themselves. That was the main difference, in this debate he was challenged and it was pointed out when he was lying to the public.
Also, I have seen many people from the Republican party to claim Kamala Harris is a deranged communist or socialist, which it is difficult for me to believe, considering people within the democrat party itself do not believe Kamala is leftist enough for the majority of the voting base, there have been arguments she is closer to the center of the political spectrum instead of all the way to the left.

To each their own, but unlike you, I am waiting for the last moment before placing my bets on the books. You should take a look on the internet about the American phenomenon called "October surprise", it could easily turn this election around..
Well if what you say is very true, as I said I have not seen the debate, but for that reason I have seen what they have said in some articles, news, but it is difficult because each one has their own way of seeing politics and their tendency, but it seems interesting to me and I am going to look for it to read it , in this case we can draw more conclusions, November 5 is approaching , will all this bring about a new gross movement for the USA? Will they accept the results whoever wins? Well last time Trump had to accept that he lost against BIDEN , and well nothing else happened, here what we do not know is what the interests of the other policies that are in favor of the Harris current will be, in case she loses, will they also accept?

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But Kamala is a well known Communist, who follows the Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist ideology. Wealth redistribution is one of her priorities, and ownership of cryptocurrency goes against that policy.

Kamala is only a well known Communist among those who are ignorant when it comes to the idea of Communism.
It's funny how Trump calls Kamala a communist. People in the US make communism into a big bogey man. It's so funny to explain to an American what communism stands for through deductive questions.
Ask anyone in the U.S. if they'd like to partake in the decision making process in their workplace, to have a say how much money ends up in their pocket, to be guaranteed affordable gas, healthcare food and education. Who would say no? The ideas people associate communism and largely leftism are so out of the ordinary that whoever knows what the left really stands for can't help but laugh.

For most of the world, Kamala isn't even center left, she's right wing. Imperialism under Biden with her as vice president reaches its peak.
Honestly lack of education in the U.S. is a huge problem and could very well end up being the country's downfall.

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September 19, 2024, 01:50:43 PM
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Personally, I think that Kamala Harris will defeat Donald Trump in the US presidential election.
Donald Trump could easily beat Joe Biden, but any other Democratic candidate is guaranteed to give him a lot of trouble...

Recently, there were political debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. I watched these debates. Kamala Harris was talking nonsense and laughing a lot.

At the same time, Donald Trump, a good speaker in the past, was unable to convincingly refute her arguments or at least show the viewers and listeners how incompetent Kamala Harris is. And this is a very big failure for Donald Trump.

He needed to convincingly win these political debates.
what's now your bases for the assumption that Kamala is going to win at the election when you think that both trump and Kamala didn't give a fair and convincing point at the debate? you know that apart from whatever point they try to put forward at each other, thier are obvious facts that's available at the table of voters to consider while concluding on who they will vote in the November election.

Even though Trump was trying to play the mind game after the election with statement that suggest that the journalist are against him due to the kind of corrections and approached they used against him throughout the debate. From the previous debate I've watched, it's always a common thing that journalist does that they always try to fact check whatever you're doing to ensure that you're saying what's right and not feeding the public with fabricated stories that's not true. If they don't fact check it at the point of the debate, people that are watching from home will still look and understand that such kind of statement isn't true.  Politics is more than who speaks well at a presidential debate or not, even before, during and after the debate, electorates already knows who appeals to thier conscience based on the possibility they see in iether of the asperant.


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There’s a lot of issue and some of it is critical during Biden admin. I think they are equal wash up candidate with Trump based on how I see social media post. Trump supporters gain a lot of momentum this election due to this failure of current administration. However I’m not sure how accurate social media post nowadays.  Cheesy
Do not believe on social media. I can remember the the last election in my country, the person that people were talking about on the social media did not even became the second but the the third. What I believe in is during voting after seeing some results. I just know that election is going to be very tough and who will be the winner between Trump and Biden is not yet known.
A lot of fake news is spread on social media and the titles are given in such a way that they are catchy and the videos or posts get more views. So social media posts should never be trusted. Both Trump and Kamala Harris have a lot of potential in the US election. Kamala Harris has a lot of support and on the other hand Donald Trump was elected president before so it can be said that his popularity is very big. So Kamala Harris and Trump will be fighting a lot. So placing a potential bet here is a very difficult task. So here one can bet only for the favorite party of all. I will support Donald Trump

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Yes, it may be as you say, in which case many who own cryptocurrency are not ready to vote for it. But I know that a large percentage of the American population owns cryptocurrency, because many communicate and tell each other about its advantages over traditional finance. If Kamala bans it, she will create a whole crowd of those who will hate it. But Trump is showing his rabid loyalty to crypto, for example, today he paid with crypto in a bar in New York. This is the first transaction of a presidential candidate in the Bitcoin network. Honestly, I did not think that it would happen so quickly.

There is a lot of difference between someone who supports cryptocurrency and someone who owns it. I own several stocks and mutual funds, but that doesn't mean that I really support these corporations and banks. At the most there maybe 100,000 or so serious cryptocurrency supporters around the world, and out of that one-third or so maybe in the US. And number of crypto investors maybe in the millions. And a few tens of thousands of crypto supporters doesn't really decide the outcome of the POTUS elections.




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Personally, I think that Kamala Harris will defeat Donald Trump in the US presidential election.
Donald Trump could easily beat Joe Biden, but any other Democratic candidate is guaranteed to give him a lot of trouble...

Recently, there were political debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. I watched these debates. Kamala Harris was talking nonsense and laughing a lot.

At the same time, Donald Trump, a good speaker in the past, was unable to convincingly refute her arguments or at least show the viewers and listeners how incompetent Kamala Harris is. And this is a very big failure for Donald Trump.

He needed to convincingly win these political debates.
Though I am not from US and I am from third World Country. So I don't know what is going on there except I watched news. And network is not too strong to Fine-tune the frequency to outside country unless local news carry the news. I was told that it was because of the debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump that brought Kamala Harris to the front banner of the Democratic party to contest with Donald Trump in Republican Party so if she did like Biden then the faith and fate of winning is narrow. Donald Trump is very gallant in this election. We can discuss here and social media but the outcome of the election will shock people.

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September 19, 2024, 03:28:46 PM
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Personally, I think that Kamala Harris will defeat Donald Trump in the US presidential election.
Donald Trump could easily beat Joe Biden, but any other Democratic candidate is guaranteed to give him a lot of trouble...

Recently, there were political debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. I watched these debates. Kamala Harris was talking nonsense and laughing a lot.

At the same time, Donald Trump, a good speaker in the past, was unable to convincingly refute her arguments or at least show the viewers and listeners how incompetent Kamala Harris is. And this is a very big failure for Donald Trump.

He needed to convincingly win these political debates.
what's now your bases for the assumption that Kamala is going to win at the election when you think that both trump and Kamala didn't give a fair and convincing point at the debate? you know that apart from whatever point they try to put forward at each other, thier are obvious facts that's available at the table of voters to consider while concluding on who they will vote in the November election.

Even though Trump was trying to play the mind game after the election with statement that suggest that the journalist are against him due to the kind of corrections and approached they used against him throughout the debate. From the previous debate I've watched, it's always a common thing that journalist does that they always try to fact check whatever you're doing to ensure that you're saying what's right and not feeding the public with fabricated stories that's not true. If they don't fact check it at the point of the debate, people that are watching from home will still look and understand that such kind of statement isn't true.  Politics is more than who speaks well at a presidential debate or not, even before, during and after the debate, electorates already knows who appeals to thier conscience based on the possibility they see in iether of the asperant.



In my opinion, Donald Trump is in a very stupid situation....
His entire previous presidential campaign was built on the fact that Joe Biden is an old and helpless man. However, Joe Biden withdrew his candidacy. Kamala Harris is much younger than Joe Biden and Donald Trump. And now it turns out that, compared to Kamala Harris, the old and helpless man is Donald Trump.
If Donald Trump had performed brilliantly in a political debate with Kamala Harris, this would have increased his chances of winning. But now we see a giggling Harris, who, despite her stupidity, is quite interesting to voters. Donald Trump has already been president, was a presidential candidate, became a victim of an assassination attempt, and now he has nothing to surprise ordinary Americans with.
Donald Trump, in my opinion, no longer has any trump cards that could help him focus the attention of undecided American voters. There is no intrigue...  
On the other hand, Kamala Harris has a certain administrative resource, she is young, and there is a certain intrigue regarding what kind of US president she might become.

 
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Looks like Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota and North Carolina are the swing states this time around with Harris and Trump edging each other out barely in several states.

Key point here is that Harris seems to have a small lead in Pennsylvania which is usually the most important swing state among them. This race is heating up.

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September 19, 2024, 07:47:22 PM
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I said I have not seen the debate
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Will they accept the results whoever wins? Well last time Trump had to accept that he lost against BIDEN , and well nothing else happened, here what we do not know is what the interests of the other policies that are in favor of the Harris current will be, in case she loses, will they also accept?
Wut? Trump never admitted the loss. First time he said he lost 'by a whisker' was this month! And then later he said he was just being sarcastic about it.
 
And nothing else happened? Tell that to those 890 people who have been found guilty of federal crimes, because trump trump inspired them by raving elections were stolen. If that's nothing i would like to know what's that something you are waiting for.

Maybe you should watch the debate, so you would see with your own eyes why the odds suddenly changed.

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September 19, 2024, 09:53:00 PM
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It's funny how Trump calls Kamala a communist. People in the US make communism into a big bogey man. It's so funny to explain to an American what communism stands for through deductive questions.
Ask anyone in the U.S. if they'd like to partake in the decision making process in their workplace, to have a say how much money ends up in their pocket, to be guaranteed affordable gas, healthcare food and education. Who would say no? The ideas people associate communism and largely leftism are so out of the ordinary that whoever knows what the left really stands for can't help but laugh.

For most of the world, Kamala isn't even center left, she's right wing. Imperialism under Biden with her as vice president reaches its peak.
Honestly lack of education in the U.S. is a huge problem and could very well end up being the country's downfall.

Are you saying that "eat the rich" which is so popular among the left is not what Harris promotes? Tax on unrealized profits, price regulation (including rent), etc. are all anti-market ideas from the left spectrum. What difference does it make how left they are (communism or socialism or a combination of them) if they are anti-market? Maybe Harris does not support them and uses them just like any populist, but Trump is right when he calls her a communist - he emphasizes that she is trying to gain popularity (among stupid voters) at the expense of harmful dangerous ideas.

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Donald Trump, in my opinion, no longer has any trump cards that could help him focus the attention of undecided American voters. There is no intrigue...  
On the other hand, Kamala Harris has a certain administrative resource, she is young, and there is a certain intrigue regarding what kind of US president she might become.
Quite the contrary, simply because Trump was once president, Americans already know Trump and his government and have seen that his government was much better than Joe Biden's, who seemed more like an old scarecrow who confused the names of even his advisors, showing a total cognitive inability to preside over the largest economy in the world. To this day, I wonder how they put a grumpy old man in charge of the largest economy in the world? Are Americans losing their ability to reason when it comes to voting?

At least Trump didn't cause wars like Biden's government did and he held the economy together well, despite the pandemic.

Trump's main political tool that is favoring him is Bitcoin. Using Bitcoin as a tool to increase popularity and acceptance has been a strategy used by more and more politicians. This has become a trend, without going into the merits of whether this will be beneficial for both Bitcoin and the population.

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September 19, 2024, 11:21:35 PM
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At least Trump didn't cause wars like Biden's government did and he held the economy together well, despite the pandemic.

At least Biden didn't cause a recession and pandemic like Trump's government did and he held the economy together well, despite Putins invasion of Ukraine.


(Blaming Biden for Putins war is just as stupid as blaming Trump for a pandemic happening, although blaming Trump for the recession is fair)

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The Trump administration maintained a strong economy before the pandemic. Under Trump, the US economy saw significant growth. Unemployment was at its lowest level in decades, stock markets were booming, and GDP growth was sustained. Before the pandemic hit, the economy was on a solid path under Trump.

While Biden managed to get the economy back on track despite the pandemic, the recession was not caused by Trump's misguided policies, but rather by a global pandemic event that not only caused the US, but virtually all countries felt the catastrophic impact on their economies.

Inflation during the Biden administration rose significantly to a 40-year high, eroding the purchasing power of citizens... Anyway, I won't go into this too much because it would be an endless discussion. Remember that I am not in favor of politicians, although even Trump is in favor of BTC and is using it as a political tool.

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The Trump administration maintained a strong economy before the pandemic. Under Trump, the US economy saw significant growth. Unemployment was at its lowest level in decades, stock markets were booming, and GDP growth was sustained. Before the pandemic hit, the economy was on a solid path under Trump.

While Biden managed to get the economy back on track despite the pandemic, the recession was not caused by Trump's misguided policies, but rather by a global pandemic event that not only caused the US, but virtually all countries felt the catastrophic impact on their economies.

Inflation during the Biden administration rose significantly to a 40-year high, eroding the purchasing power of citizens... Anyway, I won't go into this too much because it would be an endless discussion. Remember that I am not in favor of politicians, although even Trump is in favor of BTC and is using it as a political tool.

Trump is a very smart man and a true representative of American Patriotism and powerful leader when he was in the White House years ago and even now he is proving to be incredibly tough and together despite all he has had endured. KrazyKumala the pimped out government sorority girl however is a laughing shallow fool who you wouldn’t want to put in charge of a common house pet, she would have them eaten by a migrant lmao. I would have rather had Joe Biden and that is saying something.

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It's funny how Trump calls Kamala a communist.

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For most of the world, Kamala isn't even center left, she's right wing.

Of course, everybody knows that proposing price controls, which has not worked since the edict of Diocletian, is a typical right-wing idea. So is stifling the private sector by increasing regulations and taxes.

Another right-wing idea, advocated by the supporters of the Austrian school, is CBDCs, which allow total control by the state of every transaction of individuals.

Not to mention other ideas such as that children do not belong to the parents but “to the community”.

Think twice because you have bought into the overton window so much that you are talking garbage.

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Are you saying that "eat the rich" which is so popular among the left is not what Harris promotes? Tax on unrealized profits, price regulation (including rent), etc. are all anti-market ideas from the left spectrum. What difference does it make how left they are (communism or socialism or a combination of them) if they are anti-market? Maybe Harris does not support them and uses them just like any populist, but Trump is right when he calls her a communist - he emphasizes that she is trying to gain popularity (among stupid voters) at the expense of harmful dangerous ideas.
For me who is not an American this makes no difference because neither the left nor the right have any impact but when it comes to crypto or bitcoin policy we know who is much more supportive. The idea is who can make pro-people policies because what is expected of the leader is to produce policies that are beneficial and at least those of us in the crypto space are more interested in Trump's policies.

It is easy to be categorized as communism or socialism and leaders must have their own policies. At least Trump is much braver to do something including saying he wants to get the votes of stupid voters and to me that is more honest.

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Such a great directive about crypto, it makes me laugh so much to show that communists doesn't like it when people have a coin of their own compared to government, when in fact crypto was made against banks and fiat, and that is literally what left means, and right wants you to be slaves to companies all your life lol.

Let the right wing theorists thing whatever they want to think, this is an election and they will do whatever they can do to make you shame just for using your democratic rights, and then they will call the other side dictators lol.

Just do the right thing to you, it could be trump or it could be kamala, do not feel shame, you have a choice and you gotta make your choice, even though I hate trump, that doesn't mean that people shouldn't vote for him, if you think he is better then vote for him, I disagree, I can't vote for kamala because I am not American, but I am sure that kamala is far better, hell a bucket of shit is better than trump, but I will respect voters, because voters are not the politicians, just because trump is a terrible human, doesn't mean tens of millions of people who vote for him are bad, they are good people who are just voting for a bad person, voters are fine they are not the issue, it's the politicians that are the issue.

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September 20, 2024, 12:13:27 PM
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In my opinion, we are currently witnessing a crisis of the democratic election system.

How did it happen that in such a large country as the United States there were no younger candidates for President of the United States than Joe Biden and Donald Trump?!

How did such a powerful country as the United States come to gerontocracy? Kamala Harris is much younger than Biden and Trump. But she, in my opinion, is a primitive person who does not have strategic thinking.

Perhaps her actions are secretly controlled by people unknown to us, the gray cardinals of American politics. If we approach this whole situation from the point of view of gambling, then we need to focus on the average American voter, and this is a much more primitive person than the participants of the Bitcointalk forum. The constantly laughing Kamala Harris, in my opinion, has a better chance of being elected to the post of President of the United States than Donald Trump.

The principle will apply here - the stupider, the better. And Donald Trump has already lost his former charm of a class showman, so it will be difficult for him to attract the attention of the average American voter.

 
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