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July 12, 2014, 09:18:31 PM
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Verisend simply cannot be trusted as it is closed source and relies on a centralized mixer on a windows server, Vericoin foundation will likely see major legal issues involving money laundering in the future if they maintain this service and Vericoin does reach ever mainstream use. If services like Lavabit/Twitter/Google/etc can have their records seized by the US government without being allowed report it, it certainly can happen to Verisend.

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Actually, as someone who has a long standing background in the financial world and has personally worked extensively with FinCEN, Vericoin's features in that regard are under very low risk. What is at very high risk of catching unwanted attention is the recent batch of alts that have anonymity woven into them.

By centralizing certain aspects of Verisend, they technically have the ability to comply with US Federal regulations. Coins that have built in decentralized anonymity quite literally have a target painted on their collective asses, and will be the first hammered into the dirt by the Feds should they ever start looking in that general direction.

Sorry to drop in and disturb your interesting discussion, but here I was thinking that the whole point of anonymous transactions is that you don't have to follow anybody's rules. You move money, nobody knows about, and that's it. And so what if the Feds (by the way, the whole world does not equate Northern America, and not everybody has/needs to comply with your US federal regulations) get interested and start looking in that general direction ?  What will they do, what can they do? Will the "feds" shut down the internet, or make it illegal to use p2p networks...in the whole world? Come on. It's not hard to decipher, that decentralized anonymous transactions are just what many people really want...and will have... regardless of you, the US, the "feds" or Santa Claus.

Just my food for thoughts, nothing personal or offensive.


You are 100% correct in that. The thing is, that market is x size. Anon specific features will be all fighting for the same cash.

You have a lot of crypto in the same market competing for the same people. More crypto needs to take on a focus like VeriCoin and go for new customers, its how vericoin network, and crypto in general will grow.

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July 12, 2014, 10:12:11 PM
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Verisend simply cannot be trusted as it is closed source and relies on a centralized mixer on a windows server, Vericoin foundation will likely see major legal issues involving money laundering in the future if they maintain this service and Vericoin does reach ever mainstream use. If services like Lavabit/Twitter/Google/etc can have their records seized by the US government without being allowed report it, it certainly can happen to Verisend.

...snip...

Actually, as someone who has a long standing background in the financial world and has personally worked extensively with FinCEN, Vericoin's features in that regard are under very low risk. What is at very high risk of catching unwanted attention is the recent batch of alts that have anonymity woven into them.

By centralizing certain aspects of Verisend, they technically have the ability to comply with US Federal regulations. Coins that have built in decentralized anonymity quite literally have a target painted on their collective asses, and will be the first hammered into the dirt by the Feds should they ever start looking in that general direction.

Sorry to drop in and disturb your interesting discussion, but here I was thinking that the whole point of anonymous transactions is that you don't have to follow anybody's rules. You move money, nobody knows about, and that's it. And so what if the Feds (by the way, the whole world does not equate Northern America, and not everybody has/needs to comply with your US federal regulations) get interested and start looking in that general direction ?  What will they do, what can they do? Will the "feds" shut down the internet, or make it illegal to use p2p networks...in the whole world? Come on. It's not hard to decipher, that decentralized anonymous transactions are just what many people really want...and will have... regardless of you, the US, the "feds" or Santa Claus.

Just my food for thoughts, nothing personal or offensive.


First of all, while I tend to toss around terms like 'Feds' being an American myself, it applies throughout the world governments that some similar entity exists, please don't read too much into that particular word.

Strictly speaking, yes, the point of anonymity is to be anonymous. The question is twofold however.

First of all, while the whole world does not 'have' to comply with US regulations, the US Financial system (for all it's faults) is still capable through the Federal Reserve and US government of applying an absurd amount of pressure to entities based outside of the US. Most money laundering laws are international as well (since every government worldwide pretty much wants to have their hand in the cookie jar), so very little reach is even required. Because something truly anonymous could be used extensively for funding terrorism as well, they could come after it from that vector too. Long story short, until you are living in a non-extradition country and banking with an institution that is not reliant in any way on US or US ally based financial institutions, you might want to rethink how much you can blow off. Its scary how much economic leverage can be applied to anyone to get them to step to the beat. Sad, but true, plain and simple.

And the second facet to this is that any anonymous currency ostracized by the global financial system will probably be very hard to acquire, or cash out. Now while it is in it's own way a currency (obviously), it is only as useful as it can be spent. If you had one million dollars (or equivalent in whichever national currency you prefer) in "AnonymousCOINX" (pulling something random outta my ass as to not offend anyone), you wouldd have to either spend it with merchants who would give you something of value for it, or sell it on an exchange for fiat in order to actually have that value. But if companies wont accept it for fear of being ostracized, and if your local banks wont accept funds from an exchange that trades it for the fear of being ostracized, then what do you really have?

The essential point is that untraceable electronic transfers would be a haven for illicit activity, not just people who feel they have the right to privacy. Because of this, it's would come under what would probably be an almost unsurvivable amount of scrutiny by any and every world government.

Kind of a case of the rotten apples spoiling the whole bushel. While I know a lot of honest folks have interest in the anon aspects of crypto, it is in my personal opinion going to be hammered too much by legal authorities worldwide who are going to be way too fearful of it's illicit use.

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July 12, 2014, 10:38:30 PM
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But if companies wont accept it for fear of being ostracized, and if your local banks wont accept funds from an exchange that trades it for the fear of being ostracized, then what do you really have?
You would have Bitcoin in its infancy. Grin

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July 12, 2014, 10:57:01 PM
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Less than 2.5 hours until VRCRadio goes LIVE! @ 10:00 AM EST

Join in for triva contest with free Vericoin awards, VeriCoin News, Crypo Coin info and some fun


http://www.vrcradio.com/

thanks, will definitely be tuning in!
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July 12, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
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thanks, will definitely be tuning in!

There's just a slight problem with you're timing... He announced that several hours ago; you've missed the show. Sad

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July 12, 2014, 11:12:30 PM
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HELLO ALL:

Did you miss out on the 1 oz .999 Fine Silver Physical Vericoin pre-sale? Are you wanting to help spread the word about Vericoin but don't know how?

GOOD NEWS!

Lotto Tickets for the last available Physical Vericoin are on sale NOW as well as Vericoin Logo Stickers!!!!

Prices are:
25 VRC per Lotto ticket, you can buy as many as you want but only 2000 are available!

15 VRC per Logo Sticker, you can buy as many as you want but only 850 are available!

Here is a picture of the Stickers with a US Quarter for size comparison, They are rated Weatherproof and durability is rated at 5 years outdoor use, so these things are VERI durable.




PM ME if you want to buy any!

THIS

Still available!!
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July 12, 2014, 11:26:42 PM
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it is about to start..
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July 12, 2014, 11:31:16 PM
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it is about to start..

What if I may ask?

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July 12, 2014, 11:39:54 PM
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it is about to start..

What if I may ask?

2nd wave..
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July 12, 2014, 11:57:31 PM
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Pump has started. Don't miss the train  Grin

Choochoo!

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July 13, 2014, 12:07:33 AM
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Pump has started. Don't miss the train  Grin

Choochoo!

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Oh dear.
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July 13, 2014, 12:23:18 AM
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Less than 2.5 hours until VRCRadio goes LIVE! @ 10:00 AM EST

Join in for triva contest with free Vericoin awards, VeriCoin News, Crypo Coin info and some fun


http://www.vrcradio.com/

Will be tuning in.

How do you get into the radio website chat room, doesn't work for me..It just says connecting and hangs. Can hear them doing giveaways, but I cant even get in ;(
Channel is down, I tried to connect through the wallet using #vrcradio and the message is channel down.

VRCRadio is in Beta. We have tried to make everyone aware of this fact in our posts and announcements

There was a problem with the Channel. It was taken care of by our technicians WHILE we were and remained broadcasting.

This is why you test.

We will continue in Beta until the Techs tell me we're solid

Then and only then will we move to Gamma Status

All awards/free VRC are sent to the wallet as soon as the DJ can manage.

The last batch that went out today to make the promised  Total of 500 were sent and in the winners wallet before we went off the air.

We will be keeping to this standard.

Here's the link.
  
http://www.vrcradio.com/

Next Live "Beta"  Broadcast is scheduled for monday 14 July @ 10:00 AM EST

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July 13, 2014, 12:44:22 AM
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VeriCoin Launch Party 7.28.14 Invite, RSVP by 7.24.14 follow the link!
http://my.celebrations.com/VericoinLaunchPart
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July 13, 2014, 12:59:30 AM
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VeriCoin Launch Party 7.28.14 Invite, RSVP by 7.24.14 follow the link!
http://my.celebrations.com/VericoinLaunchPart


Great news = it will bring a lot of new vrc investors and push vrc price to the sky Smiley


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July 13, 2014, 01:26:39 AM
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The party is a nice thing, wish I could attend. I think any significant price increases will be due to the continued growth over time & time will tell I suppose.
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July 13, 2014, 03:42:45 AM
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A Launch Party sounds like a great way to spread the word!
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July 13, 2014, 03:56:19 AM
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If anyone wants Vericoin Logo stickers or Lotto tickets for the Physical Vericoin PM me prices are 15 VRC per sticker and 25 VRC per Lotto ticket but if you act fast there's a FLASH SALE on the first 50 stickers for only 5 VRC a piece!!!
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July 13, 2014, 06:41:12 AM
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VeriCoin Launch Party 7.28.14 Invite, RSVP by 7.24.14 follow the link!
http://my.celebrations.com/VericoinLaunchPart

nice 20 min ride from the train see you there
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July 13, 2014, 09:26:36 AM
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VeriCoin Launch Party 7.28.14 Invite, RSVP by 7.24.14 follow the link!
http://my.celebrations.com/VericoinLaunchPart

Gonna be in Germany, otherwise would've been there no doubt.

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July 13, 2014, 09:36:14 AM
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VeriCoin Launch Party 7.28.14 Invite, RSVP by 7.24.14 follow the link!
http://my.celebrations.com/VericoinLaunchPart

Gonna be in Germany, otherwise would've been there no doubt.

This is like the only weekend I have plans this whole summer, go figure.

My fiance is on a vacation and I am stuck dog sitting! You all enjoy yourself, and make sure to take lots of videos / pictures of the event.

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