[ANN][VRC] VeriCoin Proof of Stake-Time Currency | New Roadmap Released

[eiskalt]

Everything you say is false, misleading or you just keep ignoring the situation.  I can't keep up, but you are not alone.

I stopped responding to people because it is the same thing over and over.  You explain to them what 8 mil coins staking at once would do and they ignore, or they make up their own bitcoin history like you just did

You take the time to respond, but doesn't make a single worthwhile comment...  Obviously you just have nothing to say of value.

Nothing I have said is false or misleading (and nobody has proven otherwise - nobody has even made an intelligent counter point to anything I've said).  I've made up no history - bitcoin and litecoin have NEVER rolled-back the chain for an external reason like an exchange.

If the blockchain network can't survive this, then the coin doesn't deserve to survive.  A rollback like this is so counter to the very ideas of distributed trust, that it's almost offensive.

In your logic there should be no hardfork ever, because it is always a bailout.

If bitcoin hardforks for whatever reason, they do it to protect their coin. It is a centralized decision and they are bailing out themselves. If they would not hardfork, the coin would die. You are advocating this, so please demand it from the BTC-DEVs and the foundation.

[phzi]

In your logic there should be no hardfork ever, because it is always a bailout.

If bitcoin hardforks for whatever reason, they do it to protect their coin. It is a centralized decision and they are bailing out themselves. If they would not hardfork, the coin would die. You are advocating this, so please demand it from the BTC-DEVs and the foundation.

You have a horrid sense of logic or understanding of crypto if that was your conclusion.  Hardforks are perfectly valid, specifically when a coin is developing - for security reason, or feature development.  But they should be very very carefully considered.

The key is that this VRC move isn't a hardfork, it is a blockchain rollback for external purposes that are totally unrelated to coin development.

[Fippy]

Here's how this all goes folks:

1. Vericoin devs successfully thwart an attack of a magnitude which would have killed any other coin, including Bitcoin itself.
2. Investors notice Vericoin as a coin backed by diligent, vigilant developers capable of averting disaster.
3. Investors move into Vericoin because it now becomes obvious it's insanely undervalued.
4. Everyone who sold it off in the FUDstorm cries themselves to sleep for the next decade for throwing away their winning lottery ticket.

Just watch.

[burritoboy9984]

Let me preface this by saying I have no Vericoins at all, I just thought I would throw my 2 cents in on the situation.

Would it be possible to destroy only the stolen coins with a fork and act like they were never there preserving the other transactions that have since occurred? I understand that sucks for anyone who technically owned the coins on the exchange, but that is a risk they should have known they were taking. Perhaps Mintpal could possibly step up and reimburse the affected parties somehow. I'm not sure how much it costs to run their exchange, but bringing in ~$20000 a day in trading fees should get people part of the way there. Thoughts?

[bigc1984]

Dear vericoin community, we are being FUDed and its up to you how we handle this. Some of these people are here to enjoy others misery. Some are here to promote their coin. Its easy for them to point the finger when they think they know whats right and wrong and are hardly affected by the outcome. I dont like the idea of a fork or making it seem like Mintpal doesnt take any damage in this. So the devs choose one of two very shitty decisions, to hard fork the coin. This is bad, and now we have a choice. We can dump this coin back to nothing which is what would happen if we let the thieves keep the coins, Also what a lot of people want. Or we can show the crypto community that we still support the devs in this decision and hold tight. We can show them that we do not bend to FUD and what other alt communities think is "right" or "wrong". The world is not black and white like they make it sound with " I would never hard fork ever!" Most alts would die against such a problem as this. SO what will it be? Will you hold? Or do you want to be like most alts?

fud or not this coin is dead if they hardfork to avoid lost coins... you can't do that.

[stormia]

Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.

[stormia]

All these people from darkcoin, blackcoin, etc coming here trying to tell vrc holders what they can and can't do with THEIR coin.. lol.. these fucks are scared, just like the person who pulled this heist off- trying to bring down a competing coin.

[buy4crypto]

Here's how this all goes folks:

1. Vericoin devs successfully thwart an attack of a magnitude which would have killed any other coin, including Bitcoin itself.
2. Investors notice Vericoin as a coin backed by diligent, vigilant developers capable of averting disaster.
3. Investors move into Vericoin because it now becomes obvious it's insanely undervalued.
4. Everyone who sold it off in the FUDstorm cries themselves to sleep for the next decade for throwing away their winning lottery ticket.

Just watch.

I will go down happily with my few thousand VRC. I will defend these actions and keep repeating it until the day I die, I will only invest in teams as capable as this, with proven track records.

Most dev teams would dissapear, VeriCoin is out in force, the community steps up and supports the developers. and the developers show leadership in trouble times.


The amount of pages we picked up of FUD though is incredible, I wonder if Vericoins quick actions may have upset some criminals here today?

[javajeve]

VERICOIN IS NOW CALLED           LOSERCOIN  .......LOSERS

[buy4crypto]

Dear vericoin community, we are being FUDed and its up to you how we handle this. Some of these people are here to enjoy others misery. Some are here to promote their coin. Its easy for them to point the finger when they think they know whats right and wrong and are hardly affected by the outcome. I dont like the idea of a fork or making it seem like Mintpal doesnt take any damage in this. So the devs choose one of two very shitty decisions, to hard fork the coin. This is bad, and now we have a choice. We can dump this coin back to nothing which is what would happen if we let the thieves keep the coins, Also what a lot of people want. Or we can show the crypto community that we still support the devs in this decision and hold tight. We can show them that we do not bend to FUD and what other alt communities think is "right" or "wrong". The world is not black and white like they make it sound with " I would never hard fork ever!" Most alts would die against such a problem as this. SO what will it be? Will you hold? Or do you want to be like most alts?

fud or not this coin is dead if they hardfork to avoid lost coins... you can't do that.

Really? we just did, and the community supports it, move on.

[phzi]

Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.

Bullshit...  Mintpal is what percentage of the total stake weight and network?  A HUGE portion.  You need a hell of a lot less then a majority of users to cause the rollback to take affect.

What we've learned from this, is that apparently MintPal controls VRC...  How can you think anything else?

[bigc1984]

All these people from darkcoin, blackcoin, etc coming here trying to tell vrc holders what they can and can't do with THEIR coin.. lol.. these fucks are scared, just like the person who pulled this heist off- trying to bring down a competing coin.

we're from the cryptocommunity and we are here to tell you what is about to be done is very stupid.

[realestmofo]

They are doing something because we know who they are. If they do everything they can and the coin doesn't get mass adoption then less of a chance people hunt them down.

[buy4crypto]

Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.

Bullshit...  Mintpal is what percentage of the total stake weight and network?  A HUGE portion.  You need a hell of a lot less then a majority of users to cause the rollback to take affect.

What we've learned from this, is that apparently MintPal controls VRC...  How can you think anything else?

Go check the wallet count of mintpal and every other coin, You will find with that logic mintpal/bittrex control everything away from 3 coins?

[bigc1984]

Dear vericoin community, we are being FUDed and its up to you how we handle this. Some of these people are here to enjoy others misery. Some are here to promote their coin. Its easy for them to point the finger when they think they know whats right and wrong and are hardly affected by the outcome. I dont like the idea of a fork or making it seem like Mintpal doesnt take any damage in this. So the devs choose one of two very shitty decisions, to hard fork the coin. This is bad, and now we have a choice. We can dump this coin back to nothing which is what would happen if we let the thieves keep the coins, Also what a lot of people want. Or we can show the crypto community that we still support the devs in this decision and hold tight. We can show them that we do not bend to FUD and what other alt communities think is "right" or "wrong". The world is not black and white like they make it sound with " I would never hard fork ever!" Most alts would die against such a problem as this. SO what will it be? Will you hold? Or do you want to be like most alts?

fud or not this coin is dead if they hardfork to avoid lost coins... you can't do that.

Really? we just did, and the community supports it, move on.

I'm reading comments and it seems like only retards support it?

[btminer8]

Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.

[buy4crypto]

All these people from darkcoin, blackcoin, etc coming here trying to tell vrc holders what they can and can't do with THEIR coin.. lol.. these fucks are scared, just like the person who pulled this heist off- trying to bring down a competing coin.

we're from the cryptocommunity and we are here to tell you what is about to be done is very stupid.

I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. I think its great. Fork it and save people money, don't let thieves take cash from real people. Brilliant.

What does the world want for adoption, a world where criminals get away with cash, or where its returned safetly?

[stormia]

Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.

Bullshit...  Mintpal is what percentage of the total stake weight and network?  A HUGE portion.  You need a hell of a lot less then a majority of users to cause the rollback to take affect.

What we've learned from this, is that apparently MintPal controls VRC...  How can you think anything else?

If I'm not mistaken, Mintpal doesn't have jack shit for coins anymore- they were stolen.. Right? So, that means the HUGE portion that were stolen would actually be working against the fork. Which would mean that an even more significant portion of individual users would have to agree to the fork for it to work.

[bigc1984]

Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.

Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.

[Kuttingcorners]

i don't want scammers to get paid but setting reset should cost mint pal some sort of penalty. I think they should have to donate some money or something. Otherwise, i think the whole crypto community will be left with a bad taste. Ok we took all the money back from the scammers but we gave half to sick kids in africa or something.. Otherwise I'm cutting mint pal off my list of useable sites