youngmike
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July 13, 2014, 07:11:24 PM |
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As I understand VRC developers are now acting like a central bank to save big investors money. Veri Centralized.
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blacky90
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July 13, 2014, 07:12:23 PM |
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This has the potential to ruin the coin or result in it coming back stronger than ever. We still hold the remaining 70% so as long as vericoin holders continue to be so active, we're just fine here. Also keep in mind that exchanges will definitely update to the new wallet, and quite a bit was being held in exchanges, so it's not quite as difficult as it appears to reach 51%.
sorry but no one will buy a coin that a person owns 1/3 of their supply
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surgexvb
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July 13, 2014, 07:14:57 PM |
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I still show my full VRC balance in MintPal. Does this mean my coins by chance were not part of what was stolen? Has anyone seen the balance actually affected or do they just not update.
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Kgman
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July 13, 2014, 07:17:00 PM |
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If the Patrick and his Mintpal fanboy Dev was staking their coins then they wouldnt have to worry about fucking MINTPAL!! .......who knows if the hackers are gonna dump? if not that 8 million less coins on the market meaning your investment is better off! Just like Bitcoin .........maybe the cops can find the hackers and auction off 8 million VRC
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EtherCoin
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July 13, 2014, 07:18:21 PM |
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I still show my full VRC balance in MintPal. Does this mean my coins by chance were not part of what was stolen? Has anyone seen the balance actually affected or do they just not update.
My VRC balance looks unaffected, but the grand total (in estimated BTCs) doesn't make sense, is like if all the other coins counted but not the VRCs, can anyone check? Eth.
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Unattainium
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July 13, 2014, 07:19:12 PM |
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Rollback destroys all integrity of the block chain. You may as well go back to using dollars if you want to have a solution as moronic as a rollback. Honestly, anyone for it is either a) new as hell and totally clueless on what the block chain does and what cryptos are, or b) trying to kill this coin and MintPal
Simple as that. You are either stupid or just FUD'ing if you support a rollback. I expect flak from tons of new accounts starting...NOW
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tigerwood0432
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July 13, 2014, 07:20:10 PM |
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I still show my full VRC balance in MintPal. Does this mean my coins by chance were not part of what was stolen? Has anyone seen the balance actually affected or do they just not update.
My VRC balance looks unaffected, but the grand total (in estimated BTCs) doesn't make sense, is like if all the other coins counted but not the VRCs, can anyone check? Eth. Same for me bro
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kpierce77
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July 13, 2014, 07:22:05 PM |
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Come here to see if fundamentals brought it down, seems all hell is breaking loose. Yes, today we learned that centralized services, centralized ownership (1/3 being hot in Mintpal alone says everything) and centralized authority (rollback to save $2m worth of VRC that were most likely owned by VRC whales) just doesn't work in crypto. Decentralized is what makes crypto secure and VRC has absolutely none of that in any way shape or form. Well, no coin will be fully decentralized correct? As long as people have their coins on an exchange and not staking in their wallet?
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youngmike
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July 13, 2014, 07:22:20 PM |
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Rollback destroys all integrity of the block chain. You may as well go back to using dollars if you want to have a solution as moronic as a rollback. Honestly, anyone for it is either a) new as hell and totally clueless on what the block chain does and what cryptos are, or b) trying to kill this coin and MintPal
Simple as that. You are either stupid or just FUD'ing if you support a rollback. I expect flak from tons of new accounts starting...NOW
But rollback is the only way to get our money back! Current situation 1/3 all coins owned by one entity is too centralized and dangerous!
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majeis
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July 13, 2014, 07:22:28 PM |
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Rollback destroys all integrity of the block chain. You may as well go back to using dollars if you want to have a solution as moronic as a rollback. Honestly, anyone for it is either a) new as hell and totally clueless on what the block chain does and what cryptos are, or b) trying to kill this coin and MintPal
Simple as that. You are either stupid or just FUD'ing if you support a rollback. I expect flak from tons of new accounts starting...NOW
Says the "dev" of another coin that's a new account itself. Did you forget to login to your main account there? Let's ask you this same question and see if you have no response like everyone else: So you think a guaranteed ongoing 51% attack or an insta-dump is a better alternative? Please explain why.
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youngmike
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July 13, 2014, 07:25:31 PM |
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It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.
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kpierce77
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July 13, 2014, 07:28:30 PM |
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It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.
Well, was this a VRC vulnerability issue or was it a Mintpal issue?
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stormia
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July 13, 2014, 07:28:42 PM |
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It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.
This wasn't a PoS vulnerability.. it was an attack on the exchange, an exchange vulnerability... read the doc released by the devs.
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madjules007
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July 13, 2014, 07:28:47 PM |
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ETA on fork? What's an estimate when Mintpal will resume trading? Somewhere in the next few hours or not untill tomorrow orso?
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Killiz
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July 13, 2014, 07:28:58 PM |
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It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.
Somebody is about to make you feel really dumb. Will leave it up to that somebody to do that.
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kpierce77
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July 13, 2014, 07:30:31 PM |
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It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.
Somebody is about to make you feel really dumb. Will leave it up to that somebody to do that. I choose the high ground
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youngmike
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July 13, 2014, 07:31:37 PM |
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It seems that VRC PoS vulnerabilities are not fixed yet so attacks like this are possible.
This wasn't a PoS vulnerability.. it was an attack on the exchange, an exchange vulnerability... read the doc released by the devs. But VRC PoS vulnerabilities still remain. It's not safe to invest until PoS is fixed. I hope dev buys a working PoS (license) if they are not able to fix it by their own.
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Unattainium
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July 13, 2014, 07:31:57 PM |
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Rollback destroys all integrity of the block chain. You may as well go back to using dollars if you want to have a solution as moronic as a rollback. Honestly, anyone for it is either a) new as hell and totally clueless on what the block chain does and what cryptos are, or b) trying to kill this coin and MintPal
Simple as that. You are either stupid or just FUD'ing if you support a rollback. I expect flak from tons of new accounts starting...NOW
ARE YOU STUPID OR WHAT IF YOU LOST 100K VRC , WILL YOU SUPPORT ROLLBACK ?? OR NO ? IF ITS NOT DONE , YOU WILL SEE WHAT FUD WILL BE CREATED OVER VRC BY INVESTORS WHO LOST THEIR COINS !! YOU KNOW WHAT MEANS CONSPIRACY THEORY ?? JUST SEEN THAT YOU ARE A DEV OF UNATCOIN = FUCK UNATCOIN = PLEASE PEOPLE = CREATE A FUD FOR THIS FUCKING UNATCOIN = A COINDEV CREATING A FUD ?? = PEOPLE LOST THEIR COIN AND ARE SAD , YOU COME HERE AND CREATE FUD FUCK YOU = PUT YOUR UNAT-DICK IN YOUR UNAT-ASS !! No, I wouldn't. Even if you type in huge red letters. Anyone who understands the true point of the blockchain will agree with me
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szarbot
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July 13, 2014, 07:32:35 PM |
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In light of recent events, I guess we can all call this a...
Coinspiracy?
aaaand I'm out.
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Relaxedsense
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July 13, 2014, 07:34:54 PM |
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ETA on fork? What's an estimate when Mintpal will resume trading? Somewhere in the next few hours or not untill tomorrow orso?
this
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