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July 14, 2014, 01:58:31 AM
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Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.


Bullshit...  Mintpal is what percentage of the total stake weight and network?  A HUGE portion.  You need a hell of a lot less then a majority of users to cause the rollback to take affect.

What we've learned from this, is that apparently MintPal controls VRC...  How can you think anything else?

Go check the wallet count of mintpal and every other coin, You will find with that logic mintpal/bittrex control everything away from 3 coins?

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July 14, 2014, 01:58:49 AM
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Dear vericoin community, we are being FUDed and its up to you how we handle this. Some of these people are here to enjoy others misery. Some are here to promote their coin. Its easy for them to point the finger when they think they know whats right and wrong and are hardly affected by the outcome. I dont like the idea of a fork or making it seem like Mintpal doesnt take any damage in this. So the devs choose one of two very shitty decisions, to hard fork the coin. This is bad, and now we have a choice. We can dump this coin back to nothing which is what would happen if we let the thieves keep the coins, Also what a lot of people want. Or we can show the crypto community that we still support the devs in this decision and hold tight. We can show them that we do not bend to FUD and what other alt communities think is "right" or "wrong". The world is not black and white like they make it sound with " I would never hard fork ever!" Most alts would die against such a problem as this. SO what will it be? Will you hold? Or do you want to be like most alts?

fud or not this coin is dead if they hardfork to avoid lost coins... you can't do that.

Really? we just did, and the community supports it, move on.

I'm reading comments and it seems like only retards support it?
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July 14, 2014, 01:58:59 AM
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Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.





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July 14, 2014, 01:59:36 AM
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All these people from darkcoin, blackcoin, etc coming here trying to tell vrc holders what they can and can't do with THEIR coin.. lol.. these fucks are scared, just like the person who pulled this heist off- trying to bring down a competing coin.

we're from the cryptocommunity and we are here to tell you what is about to be done is very stupid.

I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. I think its great. Fork it and save people money, don't let thieves take cash from real people. Brilliant.

What does the world want for adoption, a world where criminals get away with cash, or where its returned safetly?

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July 14, 2014, 02:00:01 AM
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Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.


Bullshit...  Mintpal is what percentage of the total stake weight and network?  A HUGE portion.  You need a hell of a lot less then a majority of users to cause the rollback to take affect.

What we've learned from this, is that apparently MintPal controls VRC...  How can you think anything else?

If I'm not mistaken, Mintpal doesn't have jack shit for coins anymore- they were stolen.. Right? So, that means the HUGE portion that were stolen would actually be working against the fork. Which would mean that an even more significant portion of individual users would have to agree to the fork for it to work.
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July 14, 2014, 02:00:19 AM
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Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.







Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.
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July 14, 2014, 02:00:37 AM
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i don't want scammers to get paid but setting reset should cost mint pal some sort of penalty. I think they should have to donate some money or something. Otherwise, i think the whole crypto community will be left with a bad taste. Ok we took all the money back from the scammers but we gave half to sick kids in africa or something.. Otherwise I'm cutting mint pal off my list of useable sites

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July 14, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
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Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.
You kept it on an insecure exchange, you deserved to lose it.  If the exchange can't reimburse you, that's your problem because of your stupidity.

If I'm not mistaken, Mintpal doesn't have jack shit for coins anymore- they were stolen.. Right? So, that means the HUGE portion that were stolen would actually be working against the fork. Which would mean that an even more significant portion of individual users would have to agree to the fork for it to work.
You are mistaken.  They have a huge set of coins in the rolled back blockchain, ready to stake.  As for the "stolen" coins - they can't stake, they aren't matured. DURP.

Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.
Bingo.  If you don't get this, then you don't understand the fundamental value of this technology.
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July 14, 2014, 02:02:09 AM
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Otherwise I'm cutting mint pal off my list of useable sites
You should probably do that no matter what.
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July 14, 2014, 02:03:05 AM
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Hey genius, guess what- in order for the rollback to happen the majority of users have to agree to this and switch over to the new wallet. It is not as though the devs are able to force this to happen or do it without telling people. They don't have centralized control over the blockchain, this move is dependent upon a majority consensus by the entire decentralized system.


After the new wallet is implemented, all exchanges are going to accept ONLY the forcked coins. In practical terms it means that whoever doesn't accept the new wallet will not be able to exchange his coins.

Well, guess what.. we'll see 100% acceptance, a very successful forck indeed. This is going to be great PR.

Vericoin community supports devs in a non precedent, never before seen manner. Bingo!  Smiley
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July 14, 2014, 02:04:21 AM
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Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.







Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.

What integrity are you talking about? Avoiding a malicious transaction?

So it is okay to steal in cryptocurrencies and get away with it now?
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July 14, 2014, 02:05:15 AM
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Dear vericoin community, we are being FUDed and its up to you how we handle this. Some of these people are here to enjoy others misery. Some are here to promote their coin. Its easy for them to point the finger when they think they know whats right and wrong and are hardly affected by the outcome. I dont like the idea of a fork or making it seem like Mintpal doesnt take any damage in this. So the devs choose one of two very shitty decisions, to hard fork the coin. This is bad, and now we have a choice. We can dump this coin back to nothing which is what would happen if we let the thieves keep the coins, Also what a lot of people want. Or we can show the crypto community that we still support the devs in this decision and hold tight. We can show them that we do not bend to FUD and what other alt communities think is "right" or "wrong". The world is not black and white like they make it sound with " I would never hard fork ever!" Most alts would die against such a problem as this. SO what will it be? Will you hold? Or do you want to be like most alts?

fud or not this coin is dead if they hardfork to avoid lost coins... you can't do that.

pls...dump all your coins. I am happy to buy them for cheap.
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July 14, 2014, 02:05:39 AM
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Dear vericoin community, we are being FUDed and its up to you how we handle this. Some of these people are here to enjoy others misery. Some are here to promote their coin. Its easy for them to point the finger when they think they know whats right and wrong and are hardly affected by the outcome. I dont like the idea of a fork or making it seem like Mintpal doesnt take any damage in this. So the devs choose one of two very shitty decisions, to hard fork the coin. This is bad, and now we have a choice. We can dump this coin back to nothing which is what would happen if we let the thieves keep the coins, Also what a lot of people want. Or we can show the crypto community that we still support the devs in this decision and hold tight. We can show them that we do not bend to FUD and what other alt communities think is "right" or "wrong". The world is not black and white like they make it sound with " I would never hard fork ever!" Most alts would die against such a problem as this. SO what will it be? Will you hold? Or do you want to be like most alts?

fud or not this coin is dead if they hardfork to avoid lost coins... you can't do that.

Really? we just did, and the community supports it, move on.

I'm reading comments and it seems like only retards support it?

You do realize that it doesn't matter who does or doesn't support it, so long as enough of the right people do?

Strictly speaking, if I really wanted to, I could prop up the price right now at it's current value indefinitely given the capital at my disposal. There isn't enough VRC to sell me to run me dry at these prices. And if the price remained stable, or even continued to rise after all of this, you don't think people would notice and follow the profits?

You seem to live in a funny world my friend. It seems starkly at odds with every reality I have ever observed in free markets.

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July 14, 2014, 02:06:01 AM
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i don't want scammers to get paid but setting reset should cost mint pal some sort of penalty. I think they should have to donate some money or something. Otherwise, i think the whole crypto community will be left with a bad taste. Ok we took all the money back from the scammers but we gave half to sick kids in africa or something.. Otherwise I'm cutting mint pal off my list of useable sites

You are kidding right. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
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July 14, 2014, 02:07:26 AM
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Go check the wallet count of mintpal and every other coin, You will find with that logic mintpal/bittrex control everything away from 3 coins?
Proof of Share coins, probably.  Proof of Share - aka, Proof of Nothing...
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July 14, 2014, 02:08:01 AM
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i don't want scammers to get paid but setting reset should cost mint pal some sort of penalty. I think they should have to donate some money or something. Otherwise, i think the whole crypto community will be left with a bad taste. Ok we took all the money back from the scammers but we gave half to sick kids in africa or something.. Otherwise I'm cutting mint pal off my list of useable sites

You are kidding right. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...

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July 14, 2014, 02:09:49 AM
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Even if VeriCoin were to completely die from this, no value in the crypto world would be lost.  ALL of VRC's features are centralized, and today's fiasco shows us exactly why that is so dangerous.

Not to mention that veribit is a complete gimmick.  Dump VRC for BTC to make purchases... Really?  This sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?  Wait, this is what I can do with EVERY altcoin on ANY exchange.  Except with centralized veribit I place my trust in the hands of VRC's "security team" (which is one person).

No thanks.
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July 14, 2014, 02:11:20 AM
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Apparently it is okay to steal from vericoin investors hard-earned money in the name of decentralization.

These people who are against the hard fork lacks empathy and integrity.







Actually hard forking to avoid a transaction makes your coin lose 100% of it's integrity.

What integrity are you talking about? Avoiding a malicious transaction?

So it is okay to steal in cryptocurrencies and get away with it now?

Aww, does someone need mommy to hold their hand on their trip to the bank? Nice mickey mouse coin.
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July 14, 2014, 02:11:22 AM
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Even if VeriCoin were to completely die from this, no value in the crypto world would be lost.  ALL of VRC's features are centralized, and today's fiasco shows us exactly why that is so dangerous.

Not to mention that veribit is a complete gimmick.  Dump VRC for BTC to make purchases... Really?  This sounds pretty familiar doesn't it?  Wait, this is what I can do with EVERY altcoin on ANY exchange.  Except with veribit I place my trust in the hands of VRC's "security team" (which is one person).

No thanks.


Actually veri-bit costs .20 cents to get money to bitcoin wallet from cryptsy, withdraw bitcoin and it costs .31


So, its a "gimmick" that actually saves you money! Huh, whatta gimmick!

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July 14, 2014, 02:12:39 AM
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I'm assuming everyone in this forum is smart enough to realize that all the FUD against Vericoin and the hard fork is coming from the HACKERS trying to get away with their theft. 

Of course after I post this, the fudders will then deny that they are the hackers, but we're smart enough not to fall for asshole thieves.

To the hackers...you're a bunch of amateur jerkoffs for stealing the VRC.  Fuck you, the hard fork is going through.  Stop wasting your time on this forum trying to find the 8 year olds who are dumb enough to believe your lame arguments against the hard fork.  Please take your talent and use it to contribute to society rather than taking away.  Right now, you're pretty much the scum of the earth.

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