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July 12, 2014, 03:51:27 AM
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Hep I'm scared is this a scam?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided



Believe when I say this, VeriCoin is todays safe haven for the Crypto-Wild-West we live in. Smiley
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July 12, 2014, 04:48:15 AM
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Hep I'm scared is this a scam?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhShocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol

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July 12, 2014, 04:55:30 AM
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Hep I'm scared is this a scam?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol

It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean.

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July 12, 2014, 05:07:52 AM
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Hep I'm scared is this a scam?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol

It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean.

Scamalized is what this coin is amirite
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July 12, 2014, 06:25:54 AM
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Hep I'm scared is this a scam?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol

It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean.

/facepalm. Can we please get another community manager.. this guy's snarky attitude..

Also, please explain how veribit is not a centralized service? Thanks.

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July 12, 2014, 06:32:26 AM
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Sorry, on a more positive note.. This truly is one of the only altcoins I feel comfortable holding. Why? Because of the devs.
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July 12, 2014, 07:34:40 AM
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Hi guys , please don't forget to vote for vericoin on coinpayments.net just sign up >> verify your email . Transfer 0.001 btc ( 0.63 usd = 60 cents ) to vote . Please don't try to cheat or use tor browser = you will be automaticly disqualified .

If VRC is added to coinpayments.net = VERICOIN price will skyrocket Smiley

its only 60 cents guys = not even a fresh beer Smiley  VOTE ENDING IN 4 DAYS





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July 12, 2014, 07:48:41 AM
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Hi guys , please don't forget to vote for vericoin on coinpayments.net just sign up >> verify your email . Transfer 0.001 btc ( 0.63 usd = 60 cents ) to vote . Please don't try to cheat or use tor browser = you will be automaticly disqualified .

If VRC is added to coinpayments.net = VERICOIN price will skyrocket Smiley

its only 60 cents guys = not even a fresh beer Smiley  VOTE ENDING IN 4 DAYS





Theres no need for coinpayments.net. I could buy 2 VRC with .60 cents.. I'de rather do that.
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July 12, 2014, 07:49:58 AM
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Hep I'm scared is this a scam?HuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuhHuh?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

maybe but what is worse is it has a centralized component to it and its main gimmick is using BTC.. redundant just use BTC lol

It's funny how people throw around the words "Centralized" and "Decentralized" without even understanding what they really mean.

/facepalm. Can we please get another community manager.. this guy's snarky attitude..

Also, please explain how veribit is not a centralized service? Thanks.



Both Veribiit, VeriSMS VeriSend and the proposed Veribank are all centralized services. There is no debate to be had about this.

If you want to get into the meat of it, many of these services already exist for Bitcoin as well so saying its redundant and to just use Bitcoin is a fair point. SMSWallet already exists within Coinbase. Veribit is only useful if you think Veriicoin will continually raise in value faster than BTC otherwise you should just use Bitcoin. Verisend competes with the many mixers that already exist, some of which are actually trustless and open source.

Verisend simply cannot be trusted as it is closed source and relies on a centralized mixer on a windows server, Vericoin foundation will likely see major legal issues involving money laundering in the future if they maintain this service and Vericoin does reach ever mainstream use. If services like Lavabit/Twitter/Google/etc can have their records seized by the US government without being allowed report it, it certainly can happen to Verisend.

You devs and even the community really just need to decide if you are going to continue to throw together gimmicky wallet features that do nothing to enhance the protocol to simply have announce dates to pump from or if you actually want to contribute useful open source changes to the crypto currency community. Because you can provide those wallet features for any coin and accomplish more.

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July 12, 2014, 07:55:22 AM
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Considering the fee's & minimums most places put on BTC withdraws & or purchases, it is usefull. Sorry you dont agree. There's no $ laundering, thats pretty obviously nonsense. As for the others, they are options, no one is forced to use them, so there is no centralization. Again sorry you feel this way.

Edit: Features are not gimmics, again, sorry you don't agree with that either. Enjoy your weekend.
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July 12, 2014, 08:28:38 AM
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Considering the fee's & minimums most places put on BTC withdraws & or purchases, it is usefull. Sorry you dont agree. There's no $ laundering, thats pretty obviously nonsense. As for the others, they are options, no one is forced to use them, so there is no centralization. Again sorry you feel this way.

Edit: Features are not gimmics, again, sorry you don't agree with that either. Enjoy your weekend.

I think you are confused about the centralization aspect. Veribit is a service run by the devs, it is software that they control. No? So, it is centralized. I am pretty sure pnosker has said it himself that it is a centralized service catering to the coin. There is absolutely nothing inherently wrong with that, but let's just keep things straight. Just because they are options and nobody is forced to use them does not mean they are not centralized... That's like saying Microsoft/Apple are not centralized corporations because their products are optional and nobody is forced to use them... Well, Microsoft and Apple have CEOs and are most certainly centralized.
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July 12, 2014, 08:36:39 AM
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Ok, that dosent make the coin centralized. One of its features is by your definition. Just like many coins have centralized services & or features with non public code. Theres nothing wrong with that. Sorry you dont agree. Enjoy your weekend.
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July 12, 2014, 08:37:28 AM
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Ok, that dosent make the coin centralized. One of its features is by your definition. Just like many coins have centralized services & or features with non public code. Theres nothing wrong with that. Sorry you dont agree. Enjoy your weekend.

I never said the coin was centralized... It most certainly is not. That is exactly what I said: that the service is. And I even said there was nothing wrong with that...  Huh

Thank you, enjoy yours as well.
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July 12, 2014, 09:05:18 AM
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Many detractors are missing the point. VRC has value-added services that allow a single entry point for people to be able to perform functions that they would otherwise have to trawl through the industry to find who does what and how much it costs.

If you have a person new to crypto who downloads a wallet that allows them to use online services that accept BTC, allows them to send an SMS payment to someone who doesn't have a wallet and numerous other functions, you cut out the need for that laborious and steep learning process we all had to go through.
 
A long term goal will always be for these value-added services to be able to migrate to open-source decentralised platforms but, at this time, we'd be deliberately handicapping wider adoption if we insisted that everybody faced having to attain the same degree of knowledge about what is going on behind the scenes, technically, socially and commercially, as we did.


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July 12, 2014, 10:29:04 AM
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LOL I love when yoursstrully comes here and tells you how bad a service is, THAT THEY JUST CLONED AND SAY IS BETTER...

LOL I guess its a stupid, centralized service when it is out first, and is better than there own.

This is insane that they keep coming here. And remember. They are here as a good samaritan, here to benefit the whole community. Yeah right. And if you believe that...

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July 12, 2014, 10:34:23 AM
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Many detractors are missing the point. VRC has value-added services that allow a single entry point for people to be able to perform functions that they would otherwise have to trawl through the industry to find who does what and how much it costs.

If you have a person new to crypto who downloads a wallet that allows them to use online services that accept BTC, allows them to send an SMS payment to someone who doesn't have a wallet and numerous other functions, you cut out the need for that laborious and steep learning process we all had to go through.
 
A long term goal will always be for these value-added services to be able to migrate to open-source decentralised platforms but, at this time, we'd be deliberately handicapping wider adoption if we insisted that everybody faced having to attain the same degree of knowledge about what is going on behind the scenes, technically, socially and commercially, as we did.



I support this coin because it clearly aims to reach as many users as possible around the world including the unbanked and those unable to access secure internet. It's making amazing progress. It is well distributed and fair.
What good is a crypto if you can't spend it? With VRC there are already many ways to go but nothing comes out of the box fully evolved.

Until perfection and worldwide coverage is achieved  Smiley, there may be a need to integrate with legacy services.
FIAT is not going away any day soon.

VRC is a business not a religion. It's not heresy worthy of burning at the stake to offer a centralised, optional add-on.

The only way for a coin to succeed and last is for it to be known and useable. People want to buy things not play with wallets. I understand the wish to establish a network of dedicated ATMs and so on and that may well happen some day but, in the meantime, how do we get widespread everyday use of VRC? How do we get the name out there and have it known for it's ease of use and benefits?
The VRC devs always try, it seems to me, to work on as many fronts as possible and still manage to avoid diluting quality. They offer choices.

It is now possible to have a Bitcoin Debit card and draw cash at ATMs all over the world. Yes, it"s centralised and there are fees but it's the fastest way I can imagine to make people aware of crypto as a real alternative for storage and spending. When people come to understand the benefits they will switch. Only a matter of time.

A bit like VeriBit, BTC has been clever enough to make use of existing possibilities to broaden use. I think it would be, at the very least, an excellent way to get people using VRC if VRC could be added to such a card. I made an earlier post suggesting this be considered. I offer it only as an idea.
I have been into BTC since Aug 2013 and I've held many alt coins. I have applied for two different BTC debit cards and will learn more about their use in practice. Having one card that does not require a bank account, can be loaded with BTC and used at standard ATMs all over the world strikes me as very interesting. At least, until crypto ATMs become as ubiquitous, which I'm sure they will one day. Smiley

http://debitcard.anxintl.com/ if anyone wants to take a look. I'm gently nudging the idea not selling it. I have no financial interest in it.
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July 12, 2014, 10:35:42 AM
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Many detractors are missing the point. VRC has value-added services that allow a single entry point for people to be able to perform functions that they would otherwise have to trawl through the industry to find who does what and how much it costs.

If you have a person new to crypto who downloads a wallet that allows them to use online services that accept BTC, allows them to send an SMS payment to someone who doesn't have a wallet and numerous other functions, you cut out the need for that laborious and steep learning process we all had to go through.
 
A long term goal will always be for these value-added services to be able to migrate to open-source decentralised platforms but, at this time, we'd be deliberately handicapping wider adoption if we insisted that everybody faced having to attain the same degree of knowledge about what is going on behind the scenes, technically, socially and commercially, as we did.



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You get it, the people who claim they are all gimmicks don't. I guess making things easy for people, and convenient is not a priority to some coins. As they come and claim they are gimmicks (then copy the idea), and tell you how stupid the VRC one is, but how there's is better... Oh, and open source, which they complained about for a long time. THERE OWN -BIT clone is still CLOSED!!! I mean. I never seen the pot call the kettle black so much.

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July 12, 2014, 10:59:18 AM
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Got about 15 VRC right now in the growth fund I am starting within my properties. Going to make a faucet in time and do other things to promote VeriCoin. As my revenues grow I will continue to support the coin through giveaways, creation of media, PR, ect.

I have dedicated through my websites a 25% of revenue share plan back to the community through my various outlets.


Will be setting up the second VeriCoin faucet in the upcoming weeks once I get the time and technical ability. (others could help with this  Grin) And we are looking into other ways to promote this community, and the others we cover.


IF my properties as a whole start to become profitable so I can buy an ATM. I am going to seek placing a ATM near where I live in the second largest mall in America. My idea would be to go to Destiny USA, (Robert Congel) and outline to him a plan to let me place a crypto currency terminal at the service desk and market it out with PR ect to make Destiny USA the best, most relevant mall in America.

And what a good selling point that would be! One of the largest malls in america gone Bitcoin / VeriCoin? Would be impressive. At this point I would go to every mom and pop shop first. (As big chains will be harder to gain acceptance) And offer them support to setup POS systems, ect to use and accept Bitcoin. (remember I run livebitcoinsupport.com ect) Once the ATM / shops are all setup, the amount of PR that may come to the malls way over time might be a great way to work together. I know Destiny USA has been leading edge with technology and construction techniques as they finished up the mall over the past few years.

Its something I been thinking about for a while. This is all just a idea if things work well. But also, if the community wanted to try and support it... I will hold any business's hand in the mall that needs it as they start to accept crypto.

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July 12, 2014, 11:37:05 AM
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Less than 2.5 hours until VRCRadio goes LIVE! @ 10:00 AM EST

Join in for triva contest with free Vericoin awards, VeriCoin News, Crypo Coin info and some fun


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Less than 2.5 hours until VRCRadio goes LIVE! @ 10:00 AM EST

Join in for triva contest with free Vericoin awards, VeriCoin News, Crypo Coin info and some fun


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Will be tuning in.

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