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July 14, 2014, 05:38:10 AM
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Bobsurplus, ok you certainly are entitled to your opinion. I invested in CLOAK and VRC because I like both coins. But I dont go around to other threads which I dont want to invest in. You spread more fud than actually supporting your coins, I guess this is your way of supporting Cloak..just bash the competition. You do this on the Crypt thread too. Its classless and it actually makes Cloak look bad for having idiots like you around.

Have you made money on cloak? If so I think you owe me a big "Thankyou"!

I'm here to help the community as a whole, if that means I need to call out certain coins then so-be-it!

Now where's my "thankyou"?

You are not growing crypto, you noticed its not growing as fast as it should? Maybe the tech purists need to realize that more can be achieved if they get outside of the current paranoid way of thinking. Is much bigger applications for the blockchain.

VeriCoin is breaking the mold, and its what will bring in normal investors who are paralyzed by fear of the next GOX, you know why? because the attitude of purists is to let people suffer instead of using the technology to gain more people to crypto, Some people are really blind, this could be a good thing, yet people try to rally around basless acusations, rather than rallying around the facts that this changed crypto, and in a good way.

The purists are worried for valid reasons buy4crypto.
I know you are worried about your money, but they are as well.
They are worried about it on longer term, you are focussed short term.
If you can understand the concern then it will lead to less argument and more constructive discussion.

I think the rollback was a bad thing but I would probably do the same in dev position.
It is a shitty place to be in between rocks and hard places.

What might sounds like cruelty to you might be logical to others.
Here is an analogy: you make a baby. You find out the baby is deformed and will never be able to live by itself.
For the aims of the exercise you can only have one baby. What do you do? Keep this one or try for another one that can survive by itself?
There is no right answer.
It might feel right to save it but who are you doing the favor for?

The problem is the system is broken.
We are seeing it again and again. Mtgox, mintpal, different names, same game.
What we need is a different way to do all of this.
This is why peer to peer exchanges are needed.
If peer to peer exchanges are impossible then what we need is a level of education among that masses that stops people leaving money on exchanges.
If daytraders realize they can lose all of their money then maybe we will have less daytraders, this won't be a bad thing in my opinion.
Maybe by letting enough people get hurt, it will lead people to learn the lesson from the pain.
Don't leave money on exchanges.

It is a bit like helping a gambling addict. You don't cure him by giving him more money to play with.
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July 14, 2014, 05:39:14 AM
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Great  devs!   Smiley
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July 14, 2014, 05:39:28 AM
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The hardfork is done and the wallets are available for download.

Here's the step-by-step on how to do the update.

1. Forget the update because if we decide to make more coins or roll back further you'll just have to go through this again!


Thanks for the update!
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July 14, 2014, 05:39:33 AM
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I just looked through the FUD spammer profiles.
95% of them are owners of "competing" anon coins.

Have a look for yourself. Click their profiles and go through their last posts. They are all here now - DRK - XC - XMR and CLOAK. And more!

It's not about ideals. It's about money as usual.

This was pretty obvious from the get go. They're here to just troll the coin.
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July 14, 2014, 05:39:48 AM
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Can those not working on a solution please move to a different thread so we can regroup as a community on our own please. Its an important time for us to focus. Thanks

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July 14, 2014, 05:40:20 AM
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All these people think it is somehow amusing and entertaining that other people lost money. I'm an atheist but sometimes I wish there was a place...

Well said. Kudos to you!

All is well and good in the land of vericoin fans..

This was one hell of a day, but I'm going to rest easy tonight thanks to our amazing dev team
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New linux wallet up, and syncing nicely.


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July 14, 2014, 05:40:29 AM
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3. VRC devs can deliver a roll back that helps mintpal and all users on that exchange but ignores any miners who are mining VRC and have not updated to the new client. And anyone who has received VRC in that time frame of the rollback.
It seems increasingly likely that there possibly never was even an attack on mintpal.  Seems more likely to me that MintPal somehow lost the coins or private keys, and the VRC devs are helping them recover their lost coins.

These question need to be answered before anyone should ever considering trusting the VRC devs:

The next time this happens - there is a large theft of VRC - what will happen?
How big of a theft must occur to warrant a blockchain rollback?

Looks like the scammers are mad that crypto is being cleaned up from thievery. Just a thought. Hard to make money if you know the technology not only can, BUT WILL be used to stop theft. To good. And some people think this is bad. Go invest in bitcoin if you think its bad, If you think its good, Well you got VeriCoin, I got a feeling more than 6 million dollars approves the vericoin devs. You all just making VeriCoin more popular, almost 50 pages today. That should make people take not at this rate.

"CLEANED UP". Does this mean putting a bandaid on the wound will fix the other unspoken implications of this action as well as this?

Prove to us with evidence that MintPal was in fact hacked and not just negligent with their handling of private keys. Thanks

No you misunderstand that my point here is to let everyone know how the actions of the VRC dev are going to be negative on the overall VRC economy when it comes to trust.

Sure let's keep this thread up at the top so new comers can read the broken nature of VRC through the actions of its developers rolling back the block chain due to ONE business' failure to run their exchange properly.


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Want to know why he is here since 3 hours ? look at his signature , he just want to scam people with his useless LELEANA coins , check his precedent posts , on SCAMMING ACCUSATIONS = he is a scammer and a troll, he scammed people with these leleana shitcoin don't feed the scammer neither the troll , go to promote your scam coins elswhere please

My coins if you do not want to purchase them. Then do not. I do not expect people to buy them.

Please post links to your claims and proof that I am scamming.

If you can't backup your diversion from the issue at hand (the VRC devs and their roll back) then please stfu. Thanks! Grin Grin Grin

nice try to divert attention to my coins and supposed "scamming" I did with no proof at all. LOL...epic fail by another noobie.

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July 14, 2014, 05:41:51 AM
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Can those not working on a solution please move to a different thread so we can regroup as a community on our own please. Its an important time for us to focus. Thanks

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July 14, 2014, 05:42:37 AM
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Can those not working on a solution please move to a different thread so we can regroup as a community on our own please. Its an important time for us to focus. Thanks

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July 14, 2014, 05:42:44 AM
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This thread became a mess and its hard to find constructive posts in between of all that trash talk. So I ask again:

Why doing a roll back when it also only requires a mandatory wallet update to block the specific coin outputs that were created by the two theft transactions?

This rollback move is NOT necessary at all.
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July 14, 2014, 05:43:15 AM
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Damm... The fallout has already started!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=692757.msg7832498#msg7832498
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July 14, 2014, 05:44:30 AM
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Available some Turkish statement for fools of without the benefit:

Play in the sand!

Yesterday i was at a barbecue. I have realized yet.

VRC developers team is very smart and disciplined.

All the trolls: Kiss your mother's ass.
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July 14, 2014, 05:46:38 AM
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this thread always blows up when people are trying to make VRC look bad, and it always gets quiet when things are going smoothly Smiley  just wait, there will be soon another calm period.
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July 14, 2014, 05:47:36 AM
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3. VRC devs can deliver a roll back that helps mintpal and all users on that exchange but ignores any miners who are mining VRC and have not updated to the new client. And anyone who has received VRC in that time frame of the rollback.
It seems increasingly likely that there possibly never was even an attack on mintpal.  Seems more likely to me that MintPal somehow lost the coins or private keys, and the VRC devs are helping them recover their lost coins.

These question need to be answered before anyone should ever considering trusting the VRC devs:

The next time this happens - there is a large theft of VRC - what will happen?
How big of a theft must occur to warrant a blockchain rollback?

Looks like the scammers are mad that crypto is being cleaned up from thievery. Just a thought. Hard to make money if you know the technology not only can, BUT WILL be used to stop theft. To good. And some people think this is bad. Go invest in bitcoin if you think its bad, If you think its good, Well you got VeriCoin, I got a feeling more than 6 million dollars approves the vericoin devs. You all just making VeriCoin more popular, almost 50 pages today. That should make people take not at this rate.

"CLEANED UP". Does this mean putting a bandaid on the wound will fix the other unspoken implications of this action as well as this?

Prove to us with evidence that MintPal was in fact hacked and not just negligent with their handling of private keys. Thanks

No you misunderstand that my point here is to let everyone know how the actions of the VRC dev are going to be negative on the overall VRC economy when it comes to trust.

Sure let's keep this thread up at the top so new comers can read the broken nature of VRC through the actions of its developers rolling back the block chain due to ONE business' failure to run their exchange properly.


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Want to know why he is here since 3 hours ? look at his signature , he just want to scam people with his useless LELEANA coins , check his precedent posts , on SCAMMING ACCUSATIONS = he is a scammer and a troll, he scammed people with these leleana shitcoin don't feed the scammer neither the troll , go to promote your scam coins elswhere please

My coins if you do not want to purchase them. Then do not. I do not expect people to buy them.

Please post links to your claims and proof that I am scamming.

If you can't backup your diversion from the issue at hand (the VRC devs and their roll back) then please stfu. Thanks! Grin Grin Grin

nice try to divert attention to my coins and supposed "scamming" I did with no proof at all. LOL...epic fail by another noobie.


Remember here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108704.0 , people accusing you to scam , there is other post of leleana scams , will try to find it Wink


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July 14, 2014, 05:47:50 AM
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Bobsurplus - Congratulations.. you're the second one on my ignore list!!!! amazing for you!!!!!

do the same, click on "ignore" on the left under the user name Wink
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July 14, 2014, 05:48:04 AM
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What the fuck did you just fucking say, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo

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July 14, 2014, 05:49:18 AM
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All these people think it is somehow amusing and entertaining that other people lost money. I'm an atheist but sometimes I wish there was a place...

'somehow amusing'. People watch faces of death, 2 girls 1 cup, and some of the most vile things you could ever think of. Who wouldn't be entertained watching someone lose 10 million dollars on roulette?
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Bobsurplus - Congratulations.. you're the second one on my ignore list!!!! amazing for you!!!!!

do the same, click on "ignore" on the left under the user name Wink

+1 will do the same with him and smoothie= leleana scammer Smiley  press ignore button Smiley


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July 14, 2014, 05:50:55 AM
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Whether people like it or not tomorrow I start the media push to get this into financial media outlets asap.

This is to big of a story to let go unheard. This will change the way people think of crypto, and in a good way. It cannot hurt. Bitcoin is still shunned by the world due to situations like gox. This is the exact opposite, As gox shook investor confidence, this will GROW IT!

The VRC devs said this is a one time thing. Next time a large amount of coins get taken then we all suffer for good. Doubt anyone wants to buy into this now.

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July 14, 2014, 05:51:09 AM
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3. VRC devs can deliver a roll back that helps mintpal and all users on that exchange but ignores any miners who are mining VRC and have not updated to the new client. And anyone who has received VRC in that time frame of the rollback.
It seems increasingly likely that there possibly never was even an attack on mintpal.  Seems more likely to me that MintPal somehow lost the coins or private keys, and the VRC devs are helping them recover their lost coins.

These question need to be answered before anyone should ever considering trusting the VRC devs:

The next time this happens - there is a large theft of VRC - what will happen?
How big of a theft must occur to warrant a blockchain rollback?

Looks like the scammers are mad that crypto is being cleaned up from thievery. Just a thought. Hard to make money if you know the technology not only can, BUT WILL be used to stop theft. To good. And some people think this is bad. Go invest in bitcoin if you think its bad, If you think its good, Well you got VeriCoin, I got a feeling more than 6 million dollars approves the vericoin devs. You all just making VeriCoin more popular, almost 50 pages today. That should make people take not at this rate.

"CLEANED UP". Does this mean putting a bandaid on the wound will fix the other unspoken implications of this action as well as this?

Prove to us with evidence that MintPal was in fact hacked and not just negligent with their handling of private keys. Thanks

No you misunderstand that my point here is to let everyone know how the actions of the VRC dev are going to be negative on the overall VRC economy when it comes to trust.

Sure let's keep this thread up at the top so new comers can read the broken nature of VRC through the actions of its developers rolling back the block chain due to ONE business' failure to run their exchange properly.


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Want to know why he is here since 3 hours ? look at his signature , he just want to scam people with his useless LELEANA coins , check his precedent posts , on SCAMMING ACCUSATIONS = he is a scammer and a troll, he scammed people with these leleana shitcoin don't feed the scammer neither the troll , go to promote your scam coins elswhere please

My coins if you do not want to purchase them. Then do not. I do not expect people to buy them.

Please post links to your claims and proof that I am scamming.

If you can't backup your diversion from the issue at hand (the VRC devs and their roll back) then please stfu. Thanks! Grin Grin Grin

nice try to divert attention to my coins and supposed "scamming" I did with no proof at all. LOL...epic fail by another noobie.


Remember here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108704.0 , people accusing you to scam , there is other post of leleana scams , will try to find it Wink

LOL how is that proof of me scamming?

That is 2 years ago when Pirate was scamming. How is that bad? Especially since I was right in my call that Pirate would run with people's Bitcoins.

Keep the BS coming...

This thread isn't about me...stay on topic. Unless you have proof of me scamming please post that in the scam section and I will reply accordingly. Otherwise please stfu if you don't know what you are talking about. Thanks.  Grin Grin Grin

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