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Author Topic: [ANN] AEON: Cryptonote privacy, efficiency, decentralization, and stability  (Read 616357 times)
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May 16, 2017, 03:24:40 PM
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Hello, new member here and complete newbie in cryptocurrencies world.

I have been reading about cryptocurrencies for many years, but only now decided to start with it.

I'm completely new, I do not have wallet nor any account.

Since my PC is running 24/7 for torrents, I decided to start mining Aeon (Pentium g4560 cpu) in order to support this community and in process learn more about mining and cryptocurrencies overall.

I would appreciate few tips about Aeon if possible, i.e wallet, miner, pool tips for beginners, i.e where to start from.

In the meantime, I will be reading this topic and the rest of forum.





I highly recommend this for CPU mining:
https://github.com/shyba/aeon-stak-cpu

Windows binary:
https://ci.appveyor.com/api/buildjobs/0vu9cqiw6xogeojq/artifacts/aeon-stak-cpu.zip
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May 17, 2017, 07:23:57 AM
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Hello, new member here and complete newbie in cryptocurrencies world.

I have been reading about cryptocurrencies for many years, but only now decided to start with it.

I'm completely new, I do not have wallet nor any account.

Since my PC is running 24/7 for torrents, I decided to start mining Aeon (Pentium g4560 cpu) in order to support this community and in process learn more about mining and cryptocurrencies overall.

I would appreciate few tips about Aeon if possible, i.e wallet, miner, pool tips for beginners, i.e where to start from.

In the meantime, I will be reading this topic and the rest of forum.

There are a lot links in the subreddit of aeon: /r/Aeon/
Also here the official aeon daemon + wallet: https://github.com/aeonix/aeon/releases
The wallet + daemon combo also includes solomining.

1. download the latest release
2. start aeond (the daemon) and wait till it finished syncing and is on the newest block
3. "message appears: you are in sync with the network now, you can start simplewallet"
4. start simplewallet
5. follow the instruction on screen to create your first wallet
6. congratulation you have a wallet and are synced to the network
7. type HELP into simplewallet for further commands
https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Simplewallet_command_line_arguments_and_commands
8. if you want to solomine type into simplewallet window: start_mining [number of threads]
9. if you want to see your current hashrate type in aeond: show_hr (hide_hr to disable it again)
10. if you want to stop it type in simplewallet: stop_mining
11. once you want to close all, type "exit" into the simplewallet. this will save your wallet and close it correctly.
12. if wallet is closed, type in aeond: exit
13. aeond will save the blockchain and closes correctly

hope this helps for the start:)
for pool mining follow stoffu's link to the pool miner
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May 17, 2017, 09:22:47 AM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.
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May 17, 2017, 11:08:32 AM
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Okay, so if we're going to get Aeon relisted on Poloniex it has to have a website. Any recent progress in that area?

Many people have contacted them over the last few months--so they are aware. I ask every few weeks, just because you never know--I've also asked if someone wants to add an aeon depository on cryptokingdom as this would likely take coins off the market, as it did with XMR (currently ~1% of all monero are on crypto kingdom) and introduce a new set of investors to aeon.

I like the crypto kingdom idea for AEON

Would recommend trying to get AEON added to ShapeShift.io as I think CK is trying to integrate their API so that multiple altcoin to CK currency transactions are possible.



might be .....it will so but if ever i concern it does not seems to me.
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May 17, 2017, 05:20:11 PM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley
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May 17, 2017, 05:33:05 PM
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Regarding the stak-cpu miner; roughly what kind of increase does it get? I haven't used it yet because I didn't want to make all the lock-pages settings if it wasn't really worth the effort, I mine other coins with my rigs and was worried it might effect those miners and I would have to undo it.

Any pre and post comparisons would be appreciated, thanks Smiley

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May 18, 2017, 06:03:47 AM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

Recently thehihoguy announced a new pool:
http://185.166.239.22/#

(Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/6bfvz4/new_aeon_pool_in_amsterdam_available/)

Let's spread the hashrate!
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May 18, 2017, 08:19:30 AM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

Recently thehihoguy announced a new pool:
http://185.166.239.22/#

(Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/6bfvz4/new_aeon_pool_in_amsterdam_available/)

Let's spread the hashrate!


Appreciate it, but I would recommend to mine on another place for today at least. I have currently an error on the pool. It run out of memory though it has 2 gb ram and 10 gb swapfile.
Error: out of memory, kill process aeond
Have to check it tonight since im at work right now. So means i can have a proper look on it only in about 8-10 h.

Yesterday the pool was still working fine and paid the miner. Now it seems stuck and doesnt pay out. Be assured though that as soon as i have access tonight, i will make sure the system pays out again or i will do it manually. The pending balance of the miner is logged and therefor im aware what is missing.
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May 18, 2017, 03:19:24 PM
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Regarding the stak-cpu miner; roughly what kind of increase does it get?

Any pre and post comparisons would be appreciated, thanks Smiley

As for CPU, the difference between latest cpuminer-opt (maintained by Joblo, search for it here) and stak on i5-4570 is: 375H/s vs 720H/s. Please note that on aeon-stack-cpu u get the maximum speed not on "thread count = L3 size / 1Mb", e.g. on 6 threads using Core i5, but on 3 double threads:

"cpu_threads_conf" : [
   { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
   { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 1 },
   { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
]

This example config is the best for i5 processor. On i7, try four similar threads.

As for GPUs, I can't compare. Both W0lf's miner and Arux's fork do not work on my AMD cards (Polaris 11), I just get banned for invalid shares everywhere. Tried any intensity, worksize, drivers etc. - it's always the same result. So, that's the only miner I can use for now. If you're interested, each of RX460-2GB cards gives 607-610H/s (that's the maximum I could achieve), don't know why there's some 2-3H/s difference between 8 absolutely identical cards. That's h/w side I guess.
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May 18, 2017, 03:35:53 PM
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Where to download Where to download aeon-stak-cpu? For windows??
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May 18, 2017, 03:59:11 PM
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Where to download Where to download aeon-stak-cpu? For windows??

https://ci.appveyor.com/project/shyba/xmr-stak-cpu/build/1.2.3-9/artifacts

This 4_per_thread branch achieves further magical speedup Smiley
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May 18, 2017, 05:33:26 PM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

Recently thehihoguy announced a new pool:
http://185.166.239.22/#

(Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/6bfvz4/new_aeon_pool_in_amsterdam_available/)

Let's spread the hashrate!


Appreciate it, but I would recommend to mine on another place for today at least. I have currently an error on the pool. It run out of memory though it has 2 gb ram and 10 gb swapfile.
Error: out of memory, kill process aeond
Have to check it tonight since im at work right now. So means i can have a proper look on it only in about 8-10 h.

Yesterday the pool was still working fine and paid the miner. Now it seems stuck and doesnt pay out. Be assured though that as soon as i have access tonight, i will make sure the system pays out again or i will do it manually. The pending balance of the miner is logged and therefor im aware what is missing.


Payouts triggered and send. If anything is incorrect, contact me and i will see to it. Sorry again for the inconvience. Pool working again.
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

I have started with that pool, nothing earned yet. If nothing happens in the few days I need to check my settings. Smiley
I was fixing some issues with my pc so I was not mining all the time.

First I start aeond, wait for sync,
after that start wallet, input wallet name and pass, and I get
Refresh done, blocks received: 116
balance: 0.000000000000, unlocked balance: 0.000000000000

After that I start pool miner cryptonote-easy-miner_v0.0.3 with host aeon.sumominer.com and correct address of my wallet and I get mining started on 4 cores and I get (Hope Im doing it right):
Code:
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Using JSON-RPC 2.0
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://aeon.sumominer.com:3333
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] 4 miner threads started, using 'cryptonight' algorithm.
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] Pool set diff to 5000
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] Stratum detected new block
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 0: 1 hashes, 5.14 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 3: 2 hashes, 8.52 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 2: 2 hashes, 7.79 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 1: 2 hashes, 6.18 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:32] thread 0: 310 hashes, 8.83 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:39] thread 1: 372 hashes, 8.73 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:42] thread 3: 397 hashes, 8.69 H/s
[code]



Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

Recently thehihoguy announced a new pool:
http://185.166.239.22/#

(Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/6bfvz4/new_aeon_pool_in_amsterdam_available/)

Let's spread the hashrate!


Thank you, I saw it already but thought it was some localized mining crew. Smiley I will look to it again.

Thank you all for help.[/code]
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May 18, 2017, 09:09:27 PM
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I have started with that pool, nothing earned yet. If nothing happens in the few days I need to check my settings. Smiley
I was fixing some issues with my pc so I was not mining all the time.

First I start aeond, wait for sync,
after that start wallet, input wallet name and pass, and I get
Refresh done, blocks received: 116
balance: 0.000000000000, unlocked balance: 0.000000000000

You won't see anything in the wallet until you reach the pool payout threshold and the pool makes a payment to you.

Most pools have a way you can access your pending balance on the web site.
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May 18, 2017, 10:20:27 PM
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Regarding the stak-cpu miner; roughly what kind of increase does it get?

Any pre and post comparisons would be appreciated, thanks Smiley

As for CPU, the difference between latest cpuminer-opt (maintained by Joblo, search for it here) and stak on i5-4570 is: 375H/s vs 720H/s. Please note that on aeon-stack-cpu u get the maximum speed not on "thread count = L3 size / 1Mb", e.g. on 6 threads using Core i5, but on 3 double threads:

"cpu_threads_conf" : [
   { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
   { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 1 },
   { "low_power_mode" : true, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
]

This example config is the best for i5 processor. On i7, try four similar threads.

As for GPUs, I can't compare. Both W0lf's miner and Arux's fork do not work on my AMD cards (Polaris 11), I just get banned for invalid shares everywhere. Tried any intensity, worksize, drivers etc. - it's always the same result. So, that's the only miner I can use for now. If you're interested, each of RX460-2GB cards gives 607-610H/s (that's the maximum I could achieve), don't know why there's some 2-3H/s difference between 8 absolutely identical cards. That's h/w side I guess.

I went from 1450 with cpuminer-opt using all 15/16 threads to 1840 with stak using 8/16 threads, on my Ryzen 1700X @ 4.0ghz. With cpuminer-opt I could use 8/16 threads for about 1050 hashrate. Using 8/16 threads on either miner leaves the PC usable for just about any (non gaming) daily activity with no lagging.
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May 19, 2017, 07:14:59 AM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

I have started with that pool, nothing earned yet. If nothing happens in the few days I need to check my settings. Smiley
I was fixing some issues with my pc so I was not mining all the time.

First I start aeond, wait for sync,
after that start wallet, input wallet name and pass, and I get
Refresh done, blocks received: 116
balance: 0.000000000000, unlocked balance: 0.000000000000

After that I start pool miner cryptonote-easy-miner_v0.0.3 with host aeon.sumominer.com and correct address of my wallet and I get mining started on 4 cores and I get (Hope Im doing it right):
Code:
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Using JSON-RPC 2.0
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://aeon.sumominer.com:3333
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] 4 miner threads started, using 'cryptonight' algorithm.
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] Pool set diff to 5000
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] Stratum detected new block
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 0: 1 hashes, 5.14 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 3: 2 hashes, 8.52 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 2: 2 hashes, 7.79 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 1: 2 hashes, 6.18 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:32] thread 0: 310 hashes, 8.83 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:39] thread 1: 372 hashes, 8.73 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:42] thread 3: 397 hashes, 8.69 H/s
[code]



Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

Recently thehihoguy announced a new pool:
http://185.166.239.22/#

(Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/6bfvz4/new_aeon_pool_in_amsterdam_available/)

Let's spread the hashrate!


Thank you, I saw it already but thought it was some localized mining crew. Smiley I will look to it again.

Thank you all for help.[/code]


As smooth mentioned you can access stats on the website. In case of aeon.sumominer.com go to "Home" Tab and look at the "Your Stats & Payment History" part. Enter your view key of the wallet and press "Lookup". Now you see your hashrate and how much you mined already.

If you dont know your view key public wallet address anymore, either check out the file [walletname].address.txt in your aeond folder or enter "address" in your simplewallet.
https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Simplewallet_command_line_arguments_and_commands

About my pool, no its not local, its just a pool like any other:)
For choosing a pool its mostly about 3 things for me:
- Treshold of payment (Tab: Payments) which indicates how much you need to mine before the pool pays you out
- Total pool fee + core Dev donation (Tab: Home) how much the pool deducts from your mining for maintenance cost and supporting the devs. The total pool fee includes the core dev donation/pool core dev donation.
- hashrate, make sure the pool doesnt have over 50% of the total hashrate of aeon, else its bad for the decentralization, i.e. bad for aeon in general

hope this helps a lil with understanding
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May 19, 2017, 07:42:21 AM
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This 4_per_thread branch achieves further magical speedup Smiley

Well, with settings bruteforced, I've seen around 25% increase using half of my cores. It's useful for the ones who mines on PC which is in regular use. So, u get 50% CPU usage on the system, and maxed-out speed for these 50%. As for full CPU usage, I got ~15% speed drop over previous builds. Won't use this one.
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May 19, 2017, 08:30:34 AM
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This 4_per_thread branch achieves further magical speedup Smiley

Well, with settings bruteforced, I've seen around 25% increase using half of my cores. It's useful for the ones who mines on PC which is in regular use. So, u get 50% CPU usage on the system, and maxed-out speed for these 50%. As for full CPU usage, I got ~15% speed drop over previous builds. Won't use this one.

Hmm, never observed that behavior. For me this branch always achieves speedup on my multiple desktop/laptop computers running Windows/OSX.
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May 19, 2017, 09:02:21 AM
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Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

I have started with that pool, nothing earned yet. If nothing happens in the few days I need to check my settings. Smiley
I was fixing some issues with my pc so I was not mining all the time.

First I start aeond, wait for sync,
after that start wallet, input wallet name and pass, and I get
Refresh done, blocks received: 116
balance: 0.000000000000, unlocked balance: 0.000000000000

After that I start pool miner cryptonote-easy-miner_v0.0.3 with host aeon.sumominer.com and correct address of my wallet and I get mining started on 4 cores and I get (Hope Im doing it right):
Code:
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Using JSON-RPC 2.0
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp://aeon.sumominer.com:3333
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] 4 miner threads started, using 'cryptonight' algorithm.
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 0 to cpu 0
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 1 to cpu 1
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 2 to cpu 2
[2017-05-18 20:45:56] Binding thread 3 to cpu 3
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] Pool set diff to 5000
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] Stratum detected new block
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 0: 1 hashes, 5.14 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 3: 2 hashes, 8.52 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 2: 2 hashes, 7.79 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:45:57] thread 1: 2 hashes, 6.18 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:32] thread 0: 310 hashes, 8.83 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:39] thread 1: 372 hashes, 8.73 H/s
[2017-05-18 20:46:42] thread 3: 397 hashes, 8.69 H/s
[code]



Thank you very much for kind welcome and huge help.

I'm looking forward contributing to community.

If you need a pool for mining, I can recommend these guys:

https://aeon.kryptopool.com/#getting_started

They have helpful information for getting your miner pointed at their pool correctly and I can vouch for being paid every time I mine there. Smiley

Recently thehihoguy announced a new pool:
http://185.166.239.22/#

(Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Aeon/comments/6bfvz4/new_aeon_pool_in_amsterdam_available/)

Let's spread the hashrate!


Thank you, I saw it already but thought it was some localized mining crew. Smiley I will look to it again.

Thank you all for help.[/code]


As smooth mentioned you can access stats on the website. In case of aeon.sumominer.com go to "Home" Tab and look at the "Your Stats & Payment History" part. Enter your view key of the wallet and press "Lookup". Now you see your hashrate and how much you mined already.

If you dont know your view key public wallet address anymore, either check out the file [walletname].address.txt in your aeond folder or enter "address" in your simplewallet.
https://wiki.bytecoin.org/wiki/Simplewallet_command_line_arguments_and_commands

About my pool, no its not local, its just a pool like any other:)
For choosing a pool its mostly about 3 things for me:
- Treshold of payment (Tab: Payments) which indicates how much you need to mine before the pool pays you out
- Total pool fee + core Dev donation (Tab: Home) how much the pool deducts from your mining for maintenance cost and supporting the devs. The total pool fee includes the core dev donation/pool core dev donation.
- hashrate, make sure the pool doesnt have over 50% of the total hashrate of aeon, else its bad for the decentralization, i.e. bad for aeon in general

hope this helps a lil with understanding

Yeah, it helped a lot. Thank you. I have been here only few days and I have already learned a lot.
My address still shows not found, but I guess its still early for any payments. I think I have been mining maybe 30 hours only with 2c 4t pentiium. This is what my cryptonote miner shows now:
Code:
[2017-05-19 10:59:50] thread 0: 615 hashes, 10.52 H/s
[2017-05-19 10:59:51] thread 3: 620 hashes, 10.49 H/s
[2017-05-19 10:59:52] thread 2: 628 hashes, 10.42 H/s
[2017-05-19 11:00:21] thread 1: 640 hashes, 10.45 H/s

If i read pool calculator correctly, that should be 0.13 AEON/day for 43 H/s
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May 19, 2017, 09:48:06 AM
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Yeah, it helped a lot. Thank you. I have been here only few days and I have already learned a lot.
My address still shows not found, but I guess its still early for any payments. I think I have been mining maybe 30 hours only with 2c 4t pentiium. This is what my cryptonote miner shows now:
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[2017-05-19 10:59:50] thread 0: 615 hashes, 10.52 H/s
[2017-05-19 10:59:51] thread 3: 620 hashes, 10.49 H/s
[2017-05-19 10:59:52] thread 2: 628 hashes, 10.42 H/s
[2017-05-19 11:00:21] thread 1: 640 hashes, 10.45 H/s

If i read pool calculator correctly, that should be 0.13 AEON/day for 43 H/s

Your address still shows not found, because you didn't submit any valid hashes.
AEON don't uses the cryptonight algorithm. It uses cryptonight-lite.
Go to the Getting Started section of the pool and download a proper miner.
I use the CPUMiner (forked by Wolf). The first one in this page: https://github.com/Arux-BTT/CPUMiner-Multi-cryptonight-light/releases/tag/04082015
Did you mention your processor (to see what hashes you can expect)?
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