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November 10, 2016, 06:45:04 PM
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Less memory usage is coming.


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November 10, 2016, 06:56:12 PM
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 #3122

AEON FOR THE FUTURE - kidding?

Just downloaded last version of AEON daemon and started it.

Bloody shame, it still use 6G of RAM while blockachain size 3.5G itself Sad
It's way to hell dude, not to future.

Last XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN consume 1-2 G of RAM all together.

The pruning version runs pretty easily in 2 GB and I've been told people have used it in 1 GB.

Less memory usage is coming.
No, he's right. It needs 6+ GB of memory.
The sync in monero is a pain in the ass if you don't have an SSD, but it needs RAM in the range of only just Megabytes.
On the other side, the sync in AEON is ultra fast (pruning), but it needs much RAM and thrashing of the HDD on the exit.
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November 10, 2016, 10:51:22 PM
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AEON FOR THE FUTURE - kidding?

Just downloaded last version of AEON daemon and started it.

Bloody shame, it still use 6G of RAM while blockachain size 3.5G itself Sad
It's way to hell dude, not to future.

Last XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN consume 1-2 G of RAM all together.

The pruning version runs pretty easily in 2 GB and I've been told people have used it in 1 GB.

Less memory usage is coming.
So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

Thanks
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November 11, 2016, 06:54:58 AM
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AEON FOR THE FUTURE - kidding?

Just downloaded last version of AEON daemon and started it.

Bloody shame, it still use 6G of RAM while blockachain size 3.5G itself Sad
It's way to hell dude, not to future.

Last XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN consume 1-2 G of RAM all together.

The pruning version runs pretty easily in 2 GB and I've been told people have used it in 1 GB.

Less memory usage is coming.

I've been running aeonbux tipbot on irc for a couple months using only 1 GB of RAM (and a bunch of swap) just fine after commenting out the auto save of the blockchain. Not that this is something most people want to or can do, but it can be done. Speaking of tipbot, I keep meaning to do a giveaway on Reddit to get it done karma...soon^tm
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November 11, 2016, 05:52:10 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

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Because AEON still keeps the whole blockchain in memory while the aeond is running. As all cryptonote did at the start.

There are plans (dunno if smooth is currently working on it or not) to merge the monero lmdb implementation to AEON.

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November 11, 2016, 07:46:19 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

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Because AEON still keeps the whole blockchain in memory while the aeond is running. As all cryptonote did at the start.

There are plans (dunno if smooth is currently working on it or not) to merge the monero lmdb implementation to AEON.
Thanks. I knew CN coins had that issue but wasn't aware most or all other coins had some solution or other.
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November 11, 2016, 09:30:57 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

The instructions are here:

Pruning (aka Light Full Node) test release

This release optionally prunes the blockchain by dropping no-longer-needed information once it is processed and verified by your node. This reduces both memory and storage requirements, and perhaps more importantly reduces the rate at which both increase over time. With pruning enabled, the daemon continues to function as a full node on the network in nearly every way. I will be posting a FAQ to answer some other questions about the details of the pruning functionality.

It was released as a testing version and has some limitations involving rescanning of old wallets (click through and read including the FAQ a few posts after that if this applies to you). Other than that, no problems has been reported in over a year, so it should be fine. The branch has been updated with some patches keeping it in sync with the latest release from master.

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November 13, 2016, 05:44:39 PM
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OK guys, will wait release with small RAM consumption.

I have all of cryptonote blockchains synced and alive (even INF8 Smiley but memory greedy in private access only ...

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November 14, 2016, 06:44:13 AM
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slow and steady win the race  Grin
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November 14, 2016, 02:36:32 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

The instructions are here:

Pruning (aka Light Full Node) test release

This release optionally prunes the blockchain by dropping no-longer-needed information once it is processed and verified by your node. This reduces both memory and storage requirements, and perhaps more importantly reduces the rate at which both increase over time. With pruning enabled, the daemon continues to function as a full node on the network in nearly every way. I will be posting a FAQ to answer some other questions about the details of the pruning functionality.

It was released as a testing version and has some limitations involving rescanning of old wallets (click through and read including the FAQ a few posts after that if this applies to you). Other than that, no problems has been reported in over a year, so it should be fine. The branch has been updated with some patches keeping it in sync with the latest release from master.



@smooth, will the Aeon port of the XMR GUI be easier than the BBR port?

Which one will require less user RAM in your opinion? Which port will require the most modification?
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November 14, 2016, 04:42:57 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

Thanks

Because AEON still keeps the whole blockchain in memory while the aeond is running. As all cryptonote did at the start.

There are plans (dunno if smooth is currently working on it or not) to merge the monero lmdb implementation to AEON.



papa_lazzarou, Do you think it will be easier to port the Monero GUI to BBR or AEON? Apparently they both have announced plans to do so

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November 14, 2016, 05:46:43 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

Thanks

Because AEON still keeps the whole blockchain in memory while the aeond is running. As all cryptonote did at the start.

There are plans (dunno if smooth is currently working on it or not) to merge the monero lmdb implementation to AEON.



papa_lazzarou, Do you think it will be easier to port the Monero GUI to BBR or AEON? Apparently they both have announced plans to do so



Given that aeon is already a fork of Monero and Boolberry is not, and also afaik the next update to aeon will be a rebase to current Monero version (which I would assume is much more difficult for Boolberry because it's not a Monero fork, has more different proof of work, and alias system), I would guess it's significantly easier for aeon to do, not that I'm volunteering.
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November 14, 2016, 06:35:53 PM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

Thanks

Because AEON still keeps the whole blockchain in memory while the aeond is running. As all cryptonote did at the start.

There are plans (dunno if smooth is currently working on it or not) to merge the monero lmdb implementation to AEON.



papa_lazzarou, Do you think it will be easier to port the Monero GUI to BBR or AEON? Apparently they both have announced plans to do so



Given that aeon is already a fork of Monero and Boolberry is not, and also afaik the next update to aeon will be a rebase to current Monero version (which I would assume is much more difficult for Boolberry because it's not a Monero fork, has more different proof of work, and alias system), I would guess it's significantly easier for aeon to do, not that I'm volunteering.

This.

I think most people underestimate how much the monero codebase has deviated from standard cryptonote.

And although I am not the best person to answer that question, my educated guess is the port to BBR will be a PITA.

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November 15, 2016, 01:25:28 AM
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So there is a wallet available with a pruned blockchain? Or is that just being tested ATM?

Why does the Aeon wallet take up 6GB but XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN only take up 1-2GB all together?

Thanks

Because AEON still keeps the whole blockchain in memory while the aeond is running. As all cryptonote did at the start.

There are plans (dunno if smooth is currently working on it or not) to merge the monero lmdb implementation to AEON.



papa_lazzarou, Do you think it will be easier to port the Monero GUI to BBR or AEON? Apparently they both have announced plans to do so



Given that aeon is already a fork of Monero and Boolberry is not, and also afaik the next update to aeon will be a rebase to current Monero version (which I would assume is much more difficult for Boolberry because it's not a Monero fork, has more different proof of work, and alias system), I would guess it's significantly easier for aeon to do, not that I'm volunteering.

That does make a lot of sense jwinterm - in your opinion, will it also be easier for AEON when adapting the RingCT implementation?
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November 15, 2016, 02:43:08 AM
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That does make a lot of sense jwinterm - in your opinion, will it also be easier for AEON when adapting the RingCT implementation?

If Aeon rebases to current Monero version, then it will already be built in.
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November 15, 2016, 03:16:23 AM
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AEON FOR THE FUTURE - kidding?

Just downloaded last version of AEON daemon and started it.

Bloody shame, it still use 6G of RAM while blockachain size 3.5G itself Sad
It's way to hell dude, not to future.

Last XMR, BCN, XDN and FCN consume 1-2 G of RAM all together.

The pruning version runs pretty easily in 2 GB and I've been told people have used it in 1 GB.

Less memory usage is coming.

When it's coming? Do you have some eta?

No need to sell your 4GB card, point it to VTC (Vertcoin), more profit than ETC, or ETH zombie... https://vertcoin.org/
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November 15, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
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Smooth has done an awesome job with this coin. I think it is a real contender if the community supports it going forward.
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November 15, 2016, 11:59:28 AM
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Is there any blockchain tools available?

I need to explore chain, cut it at wrong place, etc.

Soldo [SLD] @ Soldo.IN
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November 15, 2016, 12:10:56 PM
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Is there any blockchain tools available?

I need to explore chain, cut it at wrong place, etc.
A richlist too, maybe...
(Sorry an old joke now  Cheesy)
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November 15, 2016, 12:20:39 PM
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That does make a lot of sense jwinterm - in your opinion, will it also be easier for AEON when adapting the RingCT implementation?

If Aeon rebases to current Monero version, then it will already be built in.

What an amazing upgrade from ring signatures for AEON!

Is AEON planning to adopt the Kovri i2p router as well? It seems to just makes sense to have that privacy at the nodes

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