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April 06, 2017, 01:17:48 PM
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Finding blocks pool mining, very bad luck! Anyone else?
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What SW are you using?
Linux platform or Win?

EDIT:
What SW you use in order to mine
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April 06, 2017, 02:03:18 PM
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Finding blocks pool mining, very bad luck! Anyone else?
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What SW are you using?
Linux platform or Win?

EDIT:
What SW you use in order to mine

Linux,  what is SW?

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April 06, 2017, 02:05:09 PM
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You mean software? Same as I have been with much better luck before updates.

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April 06, 2017, 02:21:57 PM
Last edit: April 06, 2017, 03:24:31 PM by daberti
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You mean software? Same as I have been with much better luck before updates.

Yes, I meant software, sorry.

Are you talking from a miner's perspective or a Pool mantainer perspective?

In any case the solution is the same.

Normally a miner goes to the getting Ready section of the pool, has a look at the configs and addresses the port with the lowest difficulty. After which he/she calls it a day.

If the software on pool's side works, and talks appropriately with mining software it may work, but this introduces an overhead to pool's brain that finds itself continuously calculating the appropriate diff for each connected miner, getting meanwhile a certain amount of shares which are simply Beyond its own calculating power.

A possible solution exists: educating the miners to set their own diff, according to their own hardware power.
This is done by carefully running their mining software distinguishing each pc of the rig from the others by the username.rig config.

But most important thing is to set a multiplier factor if using mining software that allows for it.
I.e., under ccminer-2.0-rc2-cuda-8.0 which supports Aeon, there is the -m option that defines the multipling factor of the diff as agreed by handshake with pool.
A GTX1070 will have nearly the double of Aeon hashing power of a GTX1050Ti which in turn will be roughly 6/4 of a GTX960M. GTX940M will be 1/8th of GTX1070.
So if mining software tells you the handshake had been at Diff 1 for GTX940M, it will be a good idea to set it at -m 1 and GTX1070 will be -m 8 . As a starting point. The other ones will be set accordingly.
The connection will be done with the lowest starting diff port of the pool, which will be relieved from a lot of useless work.
Miner will see a much more constant hash rate (and more money).
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April 06, 2017, 03:00:23 PM
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You mean software? Same as I have been with much better luck before updates.

Yes, I meant software, sorry.

Are you talking from a miner's perspective or a Pool mantainer perspective?
Its a pool,(I am an operator) I understand the averaging nature of blockfinding but I believe the network is being slowed down somehow in general considering other peripheral reports regarding tx's. I have no proof of this it is purely observational.

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April 06, 2017, 03:21:07 PM
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You mean software? Same as I have been with much better luck before updates.

Yes, I meant software, sorry.

Are you talking from a miner's perspective or a Pool mantainer perspective?
Its a pool,(I am an operator) I understand the averaging nature of blockfinding but I believe the network is being slowed down somehow in general considering other peripheral reports regarding tx's. I have no proof of this it is purely observational.

Just answered above Smiley
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April 06, 2017, 03:27:58 PM
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You mean software? Same as I have been with much better luck before updates.

Yes, I meant software, sorry.

Are you talking from a miner's perspective or a Pool mantainer perspective?
Its a pool,(I am an operator) I understand the averaging nature of blockfinding but I believe the network is being slowed down somehow in general considering other peripheral reports regarding tx's. I have no proof of this it is purely observational.

Just answered above Smiley
I understand this yes. I have a public and a private pool. I use diff designation with my private pool and have explained this to many miners on my public pool. We use xxxxxxxaeonxxxaddressxxxx.(diff here)  example xxxx.5000 dependent on the miners best submission rate within 15-30 sec intervals so as to reduce load to the pool. I have been mining this way for over a year now, thank you for the explanation and perhaps I will now try the -m function in 2.0 (which I use with some of my rigs)

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April 06, 2017, 03:48:32 PM
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I understand this yes. I have a public and a private pool. I use diff designation with my private pool and have explained this to many miners on my public pool. We use xxxxxxxaeonxxxaddressxxxx.(diff here)  example xxxx.5000 dependent on the miners best submission rate within 15-30 sec intervals so as to reduce load to the pool. I have been mining this way for over a year now, thank you for the explanation and perhaps I will now try the -m function in 2.0 (which I use with some of my rigs)

You're welcome.
The program I mentioned is for Cuda only, though.
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April 06, 2017, 04:28:46 PM
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building on ubuntu or in a virtual machine running ubuntu is not hard. I think all you need to do is:

apt-get install build-essential cmake
git clone https://github.com/aeonix/aeon
cd aeon
git checkout v0.9.9.0
make
cd build/release/src
./aeond

could you write again this processus with the recent modifications,
because i tried to install it on ubuntu 14-4 and it was blocked after
cd aeon: error message was: no dossier of this type
-make: no target found, stop;
-git reference: not a git repository
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April 06, 2017, 04:32:33 PM
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what happened when you did this line:

git clone https://github.com/aeonix/aeon

That should output a bunch of info and create a directory called aeon. From your description it looks like that didn't happen.

BTW this line:

git checkout v0.9.9.0

should always be changed to the current version (unless you have some specific reason to want an older one). Right now that is v0.9.11.0, so:

git checkout v0.9.11.0
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April 06, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Last edit: April 06, 2017, 05:12:14 PM by estenity
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what happened when you did this line:

git clone https://github.com/aeonix/aeon

That should output a bunch of info and create a directory called aeon. From your description it looks like that didn't happen.

yes it did output a lot of info, for a long time, going up to 100 %



BTW this line:

git checkout v0.9.9.0

should always be changed to the current version (unless you have some specific reason to want an older one). Right now that is v0.9.11.0, so:

git checkout v0.9.11.0


ok, i tried with the three versions 9, 10 and 11 and got the same response (not a git repository)


thank you for the quick response
from it, I understand that only the version line has to be changed
anyway i can try again
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April 06, 2017, 05:52:15 PM
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Block time is 4 minutes. However, the last couple of hours there have been fewer than expected blocks. It happens.

The number of coins don't matter, although the size of the transaction in bytes can make a difference (bigger txs are harder to fit in a block).

Block explorers that I know of

minergate.com
chainradar.com


Thanks ... all of my transactions have shown up.   Probably it did take a lot of block space since my wallet is filled with 0.5 transactions from mining.

Yup that is exactly what causes problems like this. I had the same issue on other coins.
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April 06, 2017, 05:57:14 PM
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What's that?

2017-Apr-06 19:05:37.047321 [P2P4]----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 810515
id:     <ec158fa47625402228976e50c1e4d632771f21828d7cdb0fdb779aa956dc18eb>
PoW:    <f64965d48c49fed6d19ff4edf4c379125f0b5ed5a366b65ad2f52e7305000000>
difficulty:     185958015
2017-Apr-06 19:10:17.425931 [P2P9]###### REORGANIZE on height: 810515 of 810515 with cum_difficulty 29038167421497
 alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty 29038353454389
2017-Apr-06 19:10:17.982411 [P2P9]----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 810515
id:     <c25181c95818948cbc74f6fe4230d7f6f6dce35f5c2bf8ef59e6f31395a11c78>
PoW:    <cc46cf89bfb3d5ae8f2e706bfe635d52766fe18147b36c4e8ff1aab804000000>
difficulty:     185958015
2017-Apr-06 19:10:17.994414 [P2P9]REORGANIZE SUCCESS! on height: 810515, new blockchain size: 810517
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April 06, 2017, 08:20:09 PM
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What's that?

2017-Apr-06 19:05:37.047321 [P2P4]----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 810515
id:     <ec158fa47625402228976e50c1e4d632771f21828d7cdb0fdb779aa956dc18eb>
PoW:    <f64965d48c49fed6d19ff4edf4c379125f0b5ed5a366b65ad2f52e7305000000>
difficulty:     185958015
2017-Apr-06 19:10:17.425931 [P2P9]###### REORGANIZE on height: 810515 of 810515 with cum_difficulty 29038167421497
 alternative blockchain size: 2 with cum_difficulty 29038353454389
2017-Apr-06 19:10:17.982411 [P2P9]----- BLOCK ADDED AS ALTERNATIVE ON HEIGHT 810515
id:     <c25181c95818948cbc74f6fe4230d7f6f6dce35f5c2bf8ef59e6f31395a11c78>
PoW:    <cc46cf89bfb3d5ae8f2e706bfe635d52766fe18147b36c4e8ff1aab804000000>
difficulty:     185958015
2017-Apr-06 19:10:17.994414 [P2P9]REORGANIZE SUCCESS! on height: 810515, new blockchain size: 810517

Reorganizations happen when there is temporarily a disagreement about what the longest chain is. It happens in every Cryptocurrency, and the shorter the block time, the more frequent it happens.

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April 06, 2017, 08:31:40 PM
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Reorganizations happen when there is temporarily a disagreement about what the longest chain is. It happens in every Cryptocurrency, and the shorter the block time, the more frequent it happens.

Understood thanks 👍🏻
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April 06, 2017, 09:26:56 PM
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Hi Devs,
I'm using aeon 0.9.11.0 on linux and frequently got this message:

[P2P4][sock 16] Some problems at write: Broken pipe:32

Is this ok?
Thanks.

It appears to be an annoying but harmless message related to peers that disconnect. In discussion on IRC someone stated that it started happening last year (which would have been during a period of no code changes), probably due to the network getting larger with more people running wallets on a part time basis.

I'll look at cleaning up the handling of it, but I don't want to put a lot of time into this code base when we are rebasing to a newer one.
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April 07, 2017, 05:57:10 AM
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git clone https://github.com/aeonix/aeon
cd aeon
git checkout feaa1170b73c7d751c44ec22a111016ead728ce4
mkdir build
cd build
cmake -G "Visual Studio 14 2015 Win64" -DBOOST_ROOT=d:\boost_1_63_0 -DBOOST_LIBRARYDIR=d:\boost_1_63_0\lib64-msvc-14.0 ..
-- The C compiler identification is MSVC 19.0.24210.0
-- The CXX compiler identification is MSVC 19.0.24210.0
-- Check for working C compiler: D:/Programmi (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0/VC/bin/x86_amd64/cl.exe
-- Check for working C compiler: D:/Programmi (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0/VC/bin/x86_amd64/cl.exe -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Check for working CXX compiler: D:/Programmi (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0/VC/bin/x86_amd64/cl.exe
-- Check for working CXX compiler: D:/Programmi (x86)/Microsoft Visual Studio 14.0/VC/bin/x86_amd64/cl.exe -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Detecting CXX compile features
-- Detecting CXX compile features - done
-- Looking for pthread.h
-- Looking for pthread.h - not found
-- Found Threads: TRUE
-- Boost version: 1.63.0
-- Found the following Boost libraries:
--   system
--   filesystem
--   thread
--   date_time
--   chrono
--   regex
--   serialization
--   program_options
--   atomic
-- Found Git: C:/Users/Dan/AppData/Local/GitHub/PortableGit_f02737a78695063deace08e96d5042710d3e32db/cmd/git.exe
-- Found PythonInterp: C:/Users/Dan/AppData/Local/Programs/Python/Python36/python.exe (found version "3.6.1")
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to: C:/Users/Dan/Documents/GitHub/aeon/build

MSBuild Project.sln /p:Configuration=release /m

You can find compilation output here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rfsbu335b277ubm/aeon_compiling.rar?dl=0


i'm sorry, i can't reproduce this bug.
with same instructions, this is the content of build/src/release and build/tests/release on my side.




in your output log, i noticed some messages about "xamarin", did you use a special toolchain?

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April 07, 2017, 10:29:42 AM
Last edit: April 07, 2017, 01:30:49 PM by daberti
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i'm sorry, i can't reproduce this bug.
with same instructions, this is the content of build/src/release and build/tests/release on my side.




in your output log, i noticed some messages about "xamarin", did you use a special toolchain?


Nope, as far as I'm aware of.

Uninstalled. I'll try again later.

Tried, with a bunch of errors from MSVC.

Any other compiler to suggest, maybe MinGW?
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April 07, 2017, 08:39:58 PM
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Block time is 4 minutes. However, the last couple of hours there have been fewer than expected blocks. It happens.

The number of coins don't matter, although the size of the transaction in bytes can make a difference (bigger txs are harder to fit in a block).

Block explorers that I know of

minergate.com
chainradar.com


Thanks ... all of my transactions have shown up.   Probably it did take a lot of block space since my wallet is filled with 0.5 transactions from mining.

Yup that is exactly what causes problems like this. I had the same issue on other coins.
Is there a good solution for the large number of transactions from mining?

I've considered periodically consolidating my miner earnings into a separate wallet.
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April 07, 2017, 10:11:58 PM
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Block time is 4 minutes. However, the last couple of hours there have been fewer than expected blocks. It happens.

The number of coins don't matter, although the size of the transaction in bytes can make a difference (bigger txs are harder to fit in a block).

Block explorers that I know of

minergate.com
chainradar.com


Thanks ... all of my transactions have shown up.   Probably it did take a lot of block space since my wallet is filled with 0.5 transactions from mining.

Yup that is exactly what causes problems like this. I had the same issue on other coins.
Is there a good solution for the large number of transactions from mining?

I've considered periodically consolidating my miner earnings into a separate wallet.

Not really. Consolidate periodically. Solo mine. Start your own pool with higher payout threshold.
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