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Author Topic: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP.  (Read 1805882 times)
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October 04, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
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Whats that magic number again Cypher?  1793??

it is 1793.  can u get it sustainably above that?  it won't turn me into a bull tho.  just less bearish.

It's ok, you can do it.. Just try it out.. Repeat after me "Gold is in a Bull Market"  "Gold prices in USD will rise"  Wink

nope.  sorry.  can't do it.  like i said, i'll stick with my Bitcoin.  and you can stick with your tungsten.

I'll stick with what was previously your gold Smiley

[I don't want to spoil the joke, but of course we both know that I, and I think all other PM bugs here, are also speculating in Bitcoin and will not be terribly heartbroken if we happen to make a killing on it.]


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October 04, 2012, 06:48:55 PM
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Gold should make a correction next week, I'm targeting 1760 or lower.
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October 05, 2012, 06:10:45 PM
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Hmmm...gold and silver aren't doing so well today.  Cheesy
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October 05, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
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The correction came faster than I thougt.

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October 05, 2012, 06:50:19 PM
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Hmmm...gold and silver aren't doing so well today.  Cheesy

Almost exactly the same as BTC in my eyeball calculation at this moment in terms of it's drop of from directly recent highs. 0.989 vs 0.983 (cur/high).


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October 07, 2012, 08:15:57 PM
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Hmmm...gold and silver aren't doing so well today.  Cheesy

Almost exactly the same as BTC in my eyeball calculation at this moment in terms of it's drop of from directly recent highs. 0.989 vs 0.983 (cur/high).


Significantly less well now for BTC, though this is completely unsurprising.  I think more rational people consider BTC to be hugely volatile and are less perturbed than they would be were PM's to suffer the same kind of action.  Hopefully also most people adjust the ratio of their various positions accordingly and can afford any Bitcoin loss which may be realized.  Up to 100%.

Beyond that, I personally assume that my activity associated with Bitcoin will both be detected somehow and act as a flag which could induce closer scrutiny of my general economic and general on-line activity.  It is, or course, possible that such a thing is NOT happening and will not happen in the future, but when I have limited info I normally assume the worst for the purposes of planning.  I've also assumed a similar thing about PM's of course.  My PM dealer assures me that my 'fears' are largely unfounded, or at least have been historically, but in a similar way I assume that I cannot take my dealer's word 100%.


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October 08, 2012, 09:14:16 AM
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We reached 1766 (M20). I went out of my short and started a buy on this rate.
EDIT : If the M20 isn't broken today, we should reach 1794$ in the week. If it is broken, 1740$ should come.

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October 09, 2012, 03:02:57 PM
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Gold down.  Bitcoin up.
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October 09, 2012, 03:23:53 PM
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why does gold fold like a cheap suit everytime stocks drop or the USD rises?  doesn't it have any more staying power than that?
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October 09, 2012, 03:30:58 PM
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USD=80 coming right up.
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October 09, 2012, 03:45:33 PM
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USD back over 80.  Yo Baby!

USD=80 coming right up.

Just keep trying until you are right I guess?  Roll Eyes

80 is a huge resistance level... its just gonna bounce down harder this time Wink
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October 09, 2012, 03:53:54 PM
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Just keep trying until you are right I guess?  Roll Eyes


and this doesn't apply equally well to you?
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October 09, 2012, 04:31:29 PM
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silverbox, did you sell GPL yet?
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October 09, 2012, 04:46:06 PM
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Just keep trying until you are right I guess?  Roll Eyes


and this doesn't apply equally well to you?

It does apply to me, but not equally. 

I have not made a 200 page thread out of my speculations Tongue
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October 09, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
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Just keep trying until you are right I guess?  Roll Eyes


and this doesn't apply equally well to you?

It does apply to me, but not equally.  

I have not made a 200 page thread out of my speculations Tongue

you're full of shit.  is this not a collective thread consisting of dozens of individual opinions that have voluntarily been logged?  is it not that i still could be correct in the long run?  is it not a compelling concept as evidenced by the number of views?  is it not, arguably, THE fundamental debate here on this forum?  is it not THE fundamental debate concerning the world economy and financial markets?

yes, i might hoot and holler when gold goes down but i don't declare victory just b/c it's gone down a couple hundred bucks, like you do to the upside.
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October 09, 2012, 05:08:08 PM
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Just keep trying until you are right I guess?  Roll Eyes


and this doesn't apply equally well to you?

It does apply to me, but not equally.  

I have not made a 200 page thread out of my speculations Tongue

you're full of shit.  is this not a collective thread consisting of dozens of individual opinions that have voluntarily been logged?  is it not that i still could be correct in the long run?  is it not a compelling concept as evidenced by the number of views?  is it not, arguably, THE fundamental debate here on this forum?  is it not THE fundamental debate concerning the world economy and financial markets?

yes, i might hoot and holler when gold goes down but i don't declare victory just b/c it's gone down a couple hundred bucks, like you.

Tongue calm down, I like this thread and I like you.

And yes, I have declared victory.  The correction from the top (1900,50/Gold,Silver) is pretty clearly over.  We are now in a smaller correction from the recent run up from (1600,28/Gold,Silver) but the trend is up.

But no, I dont think it is really THE fundamental debate.  I think that to many people try to lump BTC and PMs into the same boat.  PMs are great stores of wealth and Bitcoin is a great medium for wealth transfer, but they really dont fill the same category.  I dont think they need to be viewed diametrically...

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October 09, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
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Just keep trying until you are right I guess?  Roll Eyes


and this doesn't apply equally well to you?

It does apply to me, but not equally.  

I have not made a 200 page thread out of my speculations Tongue

you're full of shit.  is this not a collective thread consisting of dozens of individual opinions that have voluntarily been logged?  is it not that i still could be correct in the long run?  is it not a compelling concept as evidenced by the number of views?  is it not, arguably, THE fundamental debate here on this forum?  is it not THE fundamental debate concerning the world economy and financial markets?

yes, i might hoot and holler when gold goes down but i don't declare victory just b/c it's gone down a couple hundred bucks, like you.

Tongue calm down, I like this thread and I like you.

And yes, I have declared victory.  The correction from the top (1900,50/Gold,Silver) is pretty clearly over.  We are now in a smaller correction from the recent run up from (1600,28/Gold,Silver) but the trend is up.

But no, I dont think it is really THE fundamental debate.  I think that to many people try to lump BTC and PMs into the same boat.  PMs are great stores of wealth and Bitcoin is a great medium for wealth transfer, but they really dont fill the same category.  I dont think they need to be viewed diametrically.

well i certainly haven't declared victory.

i just happen to have strong opinions about what is going on and the cycles tell me an entirely different story.  but i could be wrong.  its just that gold and silver have to be able to decouple from stock and USD moves IMO.  they've not shown me they can do that.
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October 09, 2012, 05:25:14 PM
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more and more ppl are coming around to my point of view.  if the USD rises, gold will get killed:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-09/guest-post-what-will-benefit-global-recession-us-dollar
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October 09, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
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i just happen to have strong opinions about what is going on and the cycles tell me an entirely different story.  but i could be wrong.  its just that gold and silver have to be able to decouple from stock and USD moves IMO.  they've not shown me they can do that.

I think we have a classic case of 'not seeing the forest for the trees' here.  I suggest you zoom out some.


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October 09, 2012, 05:59:36 PM
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i just happen to have strong opinions about what is going on and the cycles tell me an entirely different story.  but i could be wrong.  its just that gold and silver have to be able to decouple from stock and USD moves IMO.  they've not shown me they can do that.

I think we have a classic case of 'not seeing the forest for the trees' here.  I suggest you zoom out some.



i have and i see a top.
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