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September 09, 2012, 05:16:32 PM
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How would you know what he's referring to?

I don't know, just my best guess. I would be happy to have sunnankar opinion on that.
Hell, two years ago I was completely illiterate in economy/finance. And I love wearing tinfoil hats. So I'm sure I could very well be wrong.

Just seems to be a lot of dots to connect which end up in geo-politics, like this, this and this which is tied in with this, this and this.

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September 09, 2012, 05:55:05 PM
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as a former subscriber of Le Metropole Cafe, he's been calling for a ramp for years.  what do they say about a broken clock?

Ramp for years.

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September 09, 2012, 08:47:14 PM
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Looks like we are about to hit some SMA crossings.  Cheesy

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September 09, 2012, 08:50:42 PM
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Looks like we are about to hit some SMA crossings.  Cheesy

does the SMA crossings suggest it will go down?

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September 09, 2012, 08:55:57 PM
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If the fast one crosses upwards it's bullish and if it crosses downwards bearish.

This is basically a variation on the turtle rules (google them, one of the most successful traders in history, you can download their rulebook)

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September 10, 2012, 03:18:59 AM
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"A gauge of indicators of market expectations for additional central bank stimulus rose to 99 percent in August, the highest ever, according to Citigroup Inc. The measure increased to 82 percent in the months before QE2 in November 2010."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-10/fed-stuck-at-zero-into-2015-seen-in-swaps-qe-odds-reach-99-1-.html

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September 10, 2012, 03:25:32 AM
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"A gauge of indicators of market expectations for additional central bank stimulus rose to 99 percent in August, the highest ever, according to Citigroup Inc. The measure increased to 82 percent in the months before QE2 in November 2010."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-10/fed-stuck-at-zero-into-2015-seen-in-swaps-qe-odds-reach-99-1-.html

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September 10, 2012, 05:24:00 AM
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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/name-new-reserve-currency-china-imports-more-gold-2012-all-ecb-holdings

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In July, Chinese gold imports from HK, after two months of declines, have picked up once more and hit a 3-month high of 75.8 tons. While it is notable that this number is double the 38.1 tons imported a year prior, and that year-to-date imports are now a record 458.6 tons
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it is now safe to say that in 2012 alone China has imported more gold than the ECB's entire official 502.1 tons of holdings
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What is most amusing is that China, via the IMF, still wants the world to believe that total Chinese official holdings are just 1040 tons (double the ECB's), when it has imported half this amount in 2012 alone.
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at the current run-rate of accumulation which is just shy of 1,000 tons per year, it is certainly within the realm of possibilities that China is now the second largest holder of gold in the world, surpassing Germany's 3,395 tons and second only to the US.

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September 10, 2012, 05:34:56 AM
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what's next? china? (EDIT: just read the actual post, which seems to imply china).

EDIT2: which of the above countries offered metal-backed reserve currencies?

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September 10, 2012, 08:14:40 AM
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Could China trigger insta-reserve-currency status for the yuan if they simply declared a gold peg?


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September 10, 2012, 08:16:40 AM
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Just seems to be a lot of dots to connect which end up in geo-politics, like this, this and this which is tied in with this, this and this.

I still have a lot of work to do to understand all that  Shocked
For the time being, grabbing some popcorn and see what happens will be easier



Looks like we are about to hit some SMA crossings.  Cheesy

After the rally we had, a correction would make sense. We are quite overbought right now.
We'll see if the technicals are any help here.


That's probably the plan, they might even get some help from Russia, Iran, Venezuela and others (those who are actively stacking gold, and incidentally are also big oil producers, and thus can make the rules).
Are we already there is the question.

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September 10, 2012, 08:30:29 AM
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overbought lol

when the metals go on a rip they can stay overbought for some time

the moving average cross could trigger lots of automatic buys

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September 10, 2012, 09:28:42 AM
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overbought lol

when the metals go on a rip they can stay overbought for some time

the moving average cross could trigger lots of automatic buys

I agree, the technicals can be useless sometime. Otherwise trading would be so simple.

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September 10, 2012, 10:47:27 AM
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Overbought isn't necessarily bearish and every rally has a correction - the hard part is knowing when the rally ends. Wink

I don't think it shoots to new ATHs in one go but it's only a matter of time till that happens. At least before Christmas, if I weren't broke I would even offer you guys a bet  Undecided

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September 10, 2012, 06:22:22 PM
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why bet when we can just go to the coin store?

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September 13, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
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Africa?  who needs Africa?  Bitcoin's opportunity is right here at home:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-12/u-s-unbanked-households-rising-as-fdic-pushes-for-alternatives.html
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September 13, 2012, 05:38:05 PM
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USDX now under support... gold and silver now above resistance... stocks about to challenge their may highs...

Is the corner broken?

How about now?

i think you're going to be in trouble.

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Triangle in Gold is clearly broken up.  QE3 is a go.

Corner broken now?
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September 13, 2012, 06:01:49 PM
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QE3 has been announced and is much more massive than anything ever done before. Who could have anticipated that?  Cheesy

Gold market reaction:



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September 13, 2012, 07:39:49 PM
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The Silverox Update:

Bitcoin:  +21.7%

Gold:  -6%

Diff:  27.7%

Cover that short on GLD yet?  Last chance Wink

sell GPL or the other miners yet?  last chance Wink

Naw, they ain't gonna stop printing money, if the fed doesn't QE, I just wait, if they do QE, you will never see silver/gold this low again (and you'll be eating those shorts, hopefully sooner rather then later cause it gets ugly fast if you have to eat your shorts Wink)

Remeber this?  My waiting looks to be over, YO!
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September 13, 2012, 07:44:15 PM
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This thread was started 3/13:

Bitcoin  5.40

Gold 1690


today 9/13:

Bitcoin 11.31 (up ~109%)

Gold 1765   (up ~4%)


BTC seems to be holding steady, after the 35% crash, in the 10-11 range.

Gold is UP (QE forever is now HERE)

BTC is still outperforming gold.


GPL 2.35  (Silver lg  @ 1.98)  Hmm, the pick that I made that Cypher called irresponsible IIRC..  up 19%...  and rising..
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