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[jwinterm]

I wish we had an exchange for services site that accepted Burst.
There are several sites I use regularly that accept BTC/Alts for payment.

I am not just talking about in wallet marketplace.

That does work, but there is no topology to view all the items for sale... you need to know an individuals ID to view their inventory.
A 'public' store to the in wallet marketplace would be a great place to start.

http://burstcoin.info/market

But i agree, we need more businesses accepting Burst

What's with the items shown as:
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Just a rendering issue?

[Irontiga]

I wish we had an exchange for services site that accepted Burst.
There are several sites I use regularly that accept BTC/Alts for payment.

I am not just talking about in wallet marketplace.

That does work, but there is no topology to view all the items for sale... you need to know an individuals ID to view their inventory.
A 'public' store to the in wallet marketplace would be a great place to start.

http://burstcoin.info/market

But i agree, we need more businesses accepting Burst

What's with the items shown as:
ТехнологиÑ� добычи драгметаллов из радиодеталеÐ

Just a rendering issue?

Well....i don't think it likes russian ;P



^ What it should be...hmm....meh, if you want to know what it says have a look in the store.

[wmikrut]

Yes, that works... but it would be so much better if you could include a picture and perhaps a short description and have it function from within your wallet.  Plus category searching.

Yes, it's a lot to add -- but a self contained market would boost Burst!
Images sell!

[Irontiga]

Yes, that works... but it would be so much better if you could include a picture and perhaps a short description and have it function from within your wallet.  Plus category searching.

Yes, it's a lot to add -- but a self contained market would boost Burst!
Images sell!

The best I can think of which would be relatively simple, would be modding the wallet to create listing with some YAML at the top of each listing, and then having a field for an image. The wallet would then need to hide the loaded image until, either a setting was set to show all images, or the user clicked a show button. Otherwise you might end up showing 5 year olds porn :-/

[bitladen]

Well....i don't think it likes russian ;P



^ What it should be...hmm....meh, if you want to know what it says have a look in the store.

tehnologiya dobych dragmetallov iz radiodetaley
tehnologiya polucheniya dragotsennykh metallov iz radiodetaley
polnoye opisaniye vsego tekhnologicheskogo tsikla ot podbora

technologies for the extraction of precious metals from electronic components
technology for producing precious metals from electronic components
a complete description of the entire technological cycle from selection

[wmikrut]

Yes, that works... but it would be so much better if you could include a picture and perhaps a short description and have it function from within your wallet.  Plus category searching.

Yes, it's a lot to add -- but a self contained market would boost Burst!
Images sell!

The best I can think of which would be relatively simple, would be modding the wallet to create listing with some YAML at the top of each listing, and then having a field for an image. The wallet would then need to hide the loaded image until, either a setting was set to show all images, or the user clicked a show button. Otherwise you might end up showing 5 year olds porn :-/

Point taken... I have three children and I would NOT want them looking over my shoulder at that.
Perhaps category links -- at least that way you could get a 'general audience' for people looking for goods / services.

[chup]

Bitladen asset?  Crowetic are You reading what You are proposing?  Giving money to wannabe 51% attacker to expand portion of mining volume he is controlling right now? Yeah, sure... 
I'm switching to solo-mining just to prevent this "greedynitis" spread to pool owners...

Did you forget to read the part that this would also include bit agreeing to revoke his 'threat' and no longer be someone we'd have to worry about attacking the network? Is this not a good thing?

Did You forget the part when Bit said that he was already been there (attacked other coins)?  And I should believe in "revoking threats"?  No, it will not be threat, it will happen. Sorry, I can see at least two pool owners here that are good with Bit's proposal to change reward schema in a way of rewarding more bigger players, but I still believe that successful coin needs no centralization. Therefore, I'm calling all miners to move away of those pools, at least temporary...

[luxe]

Bitladen asset?   Crowetic are You reading what You are proposing?   Giving money to wannabe 51% attacker to expand portion of mining volume he is controlling right now? Yeah, sure...  
I'm switching to solo-mining just to prevent this "greedynitis" spread to pool owners...

Did you forget to read the part that this would also include bit agreeing to revoke his 'threat' and no longer be someone we'd have to worry about attacking the network? Is this not a good thing?

Did You forget the part when Bit said that he was already been there (attacked other coins)?   And I should believe in "revoking threats"?   No, it will not be threat, it will happen. Sorry, I can see at least two pool owners here that are good with Bit's proposal to change reward schema in a way of rewarding more bigger players, but I still believe that successful coin needs no centralization. Therefore, I'm calling all miners to move away of those pools, at least temporary...

Every pool should declare their position about that! Ask your pool owner! You can always use devV2Pool, that will not be part of such a nonsence.

I just received a message from bin/laden/ ... That needs to be leaked to burst community:

Code:

Hey! I see you mine a lot of blocks. I want to discuss something with you.
Together we can take control of the network and force them to increase our rewards.
I posted this on the forum, of course they're unhappy :)
But if we put together 51% of the hashpower it's not for them to decide.
msg me back or email: l_adenne@mail.com or XMPP: benladder@crypt.am

The words 'force them to increase our rewards' and ' it's not for them to decide' should say all about him. And some of you want that person as dev? Reconsider!

Guess same message was send to:

Code:

BURST-WDK8-EYW8-NHMQ-77777
BURST-SDAC-FFUD-SMCB-D3Q74
BURST-42JY-E6TZ-885E-AZ9HK
BURST-XNS5-62HN-J3UY-79THE
BURST-ELAL-S7GX-6ASS-4RSAM
BURST-5M3F-REHB-PWRE-6E4HP
BURST-A7NY-ESG8-9VAT-DQJVF
BURST-3N7E-CX8T-K6AM-D6Q4N

I'm quite sure that none of these accounts will support him, but would be nice if they comment in here ...

[bobafett]

Every pool should declare their position about that! Ask your pool owner! You can always use devV2Pool, that will not be part of such a nonsence.

Hi, http://pool.burstcoin.de will not help by a attack.

If bin wants support, he has to ask every single miner for that.

I will not decide for my miners!

[ITileclooTI]

Bitladen asset?  Crowetic are You reading what You are proposing?  Giving money to wannabe 51% attacker to expand portion of mining volume he is controlling right now? Yeah, sure... 
I'm switching to solo-mining just to prevent this "greedynitis" spread to pool owners...

Did you forget to read the part that this would also include bit agreeing to revoke his 'threat' and no longer be someone we'd have to worry about attacking the network? Is this not a good thing?

Did You forget the part when Bit said that he was already been there (attacked other coins)?  And I should believe in "revoking threats"?  No, it will not be threat, it will happen. Sorry, I can see at least two pool owners here that are good with Bit's proposal to change reward schema in a way of rewarding more bigger players, but I still believe that successful coin needs no centralization. Therefore, I'm calling all miners to move away of those pools, at least temporary...

That would fit the rise in "other" hashing power (keep your hashing private so you can't be attacked) and the decline of the biggest pools - have the biggest pools had an unexplained increase of 'bad luck' since they've been declining?

[bobafett]

last 24h i got an increase of 60% in luck 

[pinballdude]

... and people say nobody ever does anything with Burst.

If you mean in terms of me working to help BURST gain value, then it is true. We all need to take our part in helping BURST.

If you mean in terms of using BURST then you are right, people need to use BURST for something.


Let's face it BURST is an inflationary cryptocurrency, it is not fiat, but it is inflationary. If they just sit their BURST in their address, then the price decrease (mostly caused by inflation) will eat it away.

This is why people should create, and invest in assets to gain ROI and dividends that surpass the inflation of BURST. Not just in INCOME, but I also recommend BYTEENT, and a little bit of solarfarm if their mining operation goes well.

(I`m not familiar with the other assets, so my apologies if I forgot some other good BURST assets)

It's the same thing how regular investors invest in the stock market to avoid fiat inflation, we do the same in the crypto world.

Burst is only inflationary in the short run. We've generated about half of the 2B burstcoins that will be the final total.  number of BURST in circulation will double from here , following the distribution plan of reducing the amount distributed per block with 5% each month.

but when all burst has been mined, BURST will not be inflationary, there will not come any more burst into existance, it will be flatlined, not even inflationary as Gold ( where they mine a little every year ).

This means that 1 burst today represents the same share of 2b of the total burst marketcap, as it will 200 years from now.  with a inflationary currency,  1 coin today will be more line 1/100 coin in 200 years.

so... only inflationary in the distribution phase, and we're halfway through that.  The maximum possible hit a holder can get due to inflation is a 50% loss, and some of that loss has likely already been priced in.

[pinballdude]

... and people say nobody ever does anything with Burst.

This is why people should create, and invest in assets to gain ROI and dividends that surpass the inflation of BURST. Not just in INCOME, but I also recommend BYTEENT, and a little bit of solarfarm if their mining operation goes well.

(I`m not familiar with the other assets, so my apologies if I forgot some other good BURST assets)

It's the same thing how regular investors invest in the stock market to avoid fiat inflation, we do the same in the crypto world.

I agree that asset investment is a smart move, if the asset is somehow generating value. Holding burst will get you your money back down the line, but owning an asset means you will get part of the earnings of a company that has used your investment to buy income generating equipment.

being invested you also risk the company blows up of course, for any number of reasons, so you should do some due dilligence, and spread out your investments on several companies so that the bad company don't give you a loss you cannot bear. Either that, or keep some burst, and invest some burst, so that you have the ones left you kept, in case of permanent asset failure.

Perhaps someone would start a BURST asset that invested in NXT assets, as a kind of a fund, and then paid dividends back to the BURST asset every quarter or every month.  Then investors could get a diversified investments in companies on the NXT blockchain, but paying with BURST and not having to have the hassle of selection, exchanging and whatnot themselves?

[pinballdude]

Bitladen asset?   Crowetic are You reading what You are proposing?   Giving money to wannabe 51% attacker to expand portion of mining volume he is controlling right now? Yeah, sure...  
I'm switching to solo-mining just to prevent this "greedynitis" spread to pool owners...

Did you forget to read the part that this would also include bit agreeing to revoke his 'threat' and no longer be someone we'd have to worry about attacking the network? Is this not a good thing?

Did You forget the part when Bit said that he was already been there (attacked other coins)?   And I should believe in "revoking threats"?   No, it will not be threat, it will happen. Sorry, I can see at least two pool owners here that are good with Bit's proposal to change reward schema in a way of rewarding more bigger players, but I still believe that successful coin needs no centralization. Therefore, I'm calling all miners to move away of those pools, at least temporary...

Every pool should declare their position about that! Ask your pool owner! You can always use devV2Pool, that will not be part of such a nonsence.

I just received a message from bin/laden/ ... That needs to be leaked to burst community:

Code:

Hey! I see you mine a lot of blocks. I want to discuss something with you.
Together we can take control of the network and force them to increase our rewards.
I posted this on the forum, of course they're unhappy :)
But if we put together 51% of the hashpower it's not for them to decide.
msg me back or email: l_adenne@mail.com or XMPP: benladder@crypt.am

The words 'force them to increase our rewards' and ' it's not for them to decide' should say all about him. And some of you want that person as dev? Reconsider!

Guess same message was send to:

Code:

BURST-WDK8-EYW8-NHMQ-77777
BURST-SDAC-FFUD-SMCB-D3Q74
BURST-42JY-E6TZ-885E-AZ9HK
BURST-XNS5-62HN-J3UY-79THE
BURST-ELAL-S7GX-6ASS-4RSAM
BURST-5M3F-REHB-PWRE-6E4HP
BURST-A7NY-ESG8-9VAT-DQJVF
BURST-3N7E-CX8T-K6AM-D6Q4N

I'm quite sure that none of these accounts will support him, but would be nice if they comment in here ...

once more an indication that you cannot trust bitladen with anything he promises or says, as soon as he has temporary power, he WILL rob you or force you to do things you don't want to, using threats of sabotage or stealing.

bitladen is probably in financial troubles as his business plan is to mine and sell, and now the price is low, he is not making enough to pay for the hardware he has rented. with 1.7PB it could be quite an expensive operation these days for him.  a desperate guy with no morale is dangerous. If he promised crowetic no attack, then crowetic can see now, that his promises are just words, he do not intend to hold them.

It is still okay to trade with bitladen i guess, but make sure he gives you something first, before you give him something.

[pinballdude]

Every pool should declare their position about that! Ask your pool owner! You can always use devV2Pool, that will not be part of such a nonsence.

Hi, http://pool.burstcoin.de will not help by a attack.

If bin wants support, he has to ask every single miner for that.

I will not decide for my miners!

I am solomining, i have mined 900+ blocks in total, and i will not help an attack either. Rather, i am adding TBs to my capacity over the next few months to make an attack more expensive, will be using about $300 each month, adding about 16TB each month. My BURST holding is not even worth $300, but i want to send a message to wannabe criminals.

[bitladen]

I am solomining, i have mined 900+ blocks in total, and i will not help an attack either. Rather, i am adding TBs to my capacity over the next few months to make an attack more expensive, will be using about $300 each month, adding about 16TB each month. My BURST holding is not even worth $300, but i want to send a message to wannabe criminals.

Criminals?!  51% attacking a coin is not a crime.

[pinballdude]

One feature i miss in burst is the possibillity to export and import your addresses - when i start up a new wallet on another instance, i don't know of a way to get my addresses over from the old one. (addresses being my nicknames and descriptions for known burst addresses, that then show instead of the account numbers in the user interface). Just a button to export them to a file, and another button to import them from a file.

hmm.  perhaps i should just code it myself, at least at the api level ( i suck at frontend )

[bitladen]

One feature i miss in burst is the possibillity to export and import your addresses - when i start up a new wallet on another instance, i don't know of a way to get my addresses over from the old one. (addresses being my nicknames and descriptions for known burst addresses, that then show instead of the account numbers in the user interface). Just a button to export them to a file, and another button to import them from a file.

hmm.  perhaps i should just code it myself, at least at the api level ( i suck at frontend )

I would guess you suck at anything. But if you suck more at js I have bad news for you, it's on the frontend side, js, stored in local browser storage

[pinballdude]

I am solomining, i have mined 900+ blocks in total, and i will not help an attack either. Rather, i am adding TBs to my capacity over the next few months to make an attack more expensive, will be using about $300 each month, adding about 16TB each month. My BURST holding is not even worth $300, but i want to send a message to wannabe criminals.

Criminals?!  51% attacking a coin is not a crime.

i agree, criminal is in the eye of the beholder.

I follow NAP principles  - do not steal from others,  do not force them to hand stuff over to you, do not hurt their body, only get stuff from others voluntarily.

Thus, changing the rules in the coin with a 51% attack is imo not following NAP, you are changing something that you only own 51% of. You are violating the property rights of the 49% You are changing the protocol that all 100% agreed upon by collaborating, and enforcing it on the 49%

but i understand your view that the majority have the morale on their side and can dictatorially decide whatever regarding the 49%, including making the coin very inflationary and thus emptying their pockets marketcap share wise.

The way to avoid you getting in a position where you in my view will effectuate a crime, is to increase network power. I will make it increasingly harder for you or anyone else to get to 51%. So i have decided to add to my plots, and so have others i hope, every month you wait to attack will become more and more expensive. I urge you to start a competing coin, then those who wants a miner coin can go there, those who wants a store of value coin can stay with BURST

If you start a competing coin with different parameters, i would probably mine it to get it going, but i would be afraid you might have put in spyware in the wallet, cause as i see it, you have no problem with cheating people, you seem not to follow the non agression principle. you follow some kind of bullying principle.

by the way, you have attacked other coins successfully you claim. What was your bitcointalk name in those attacks? why did you create a new one from burst? don't want us to see how your attacks end up for the victims?

[pinballdude]

One feature i miss in burst is the possibillity to export and import your addresses - when i start up a new wallet on another instance, i don't know of a way to get my addresses over from the old one. (addresses being my nicknames and descriptions for known burst addresses, that then show instead of the account numbers in the user interface). Just a button to export them to a file, and another button to import them from a file.

hmm.  perhaps i should just code it myself, at least at the api level ( i suck at frontend )

I would guess you suck at anything. But if you suck more at js I have bad news for you, it's on the frontend side, js, stored in local browser storage

I can manage js, but admit i prefer not to code frontend stuff if i can avoid it. I'll implement the feature in my own version of burst just for fun and learning.