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Damn you responded to 1 thing in 1 link. What about all the contradictions in the bible? What about all the other mistakes? Your bible is a pile of trash, don't be delusional.
3 things in one link. Rest of this is not even worth mentioning. Sorry but those things were answered many many times. Most of this is known to me. If you would be sincere to know the answer, you would find it. Its waaaaay tooo long to waste my time on such a trivialities. If you want to - find 3 the best from this link https://infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/contradictions.html and I will answer. I wont explain all of those.
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To prove it scientifically is very difficult, even I do not think it is possible. But if we connect the technology of science and belief it will not be synchronized. But if you do not believe that the god does not exist, so who is the creator of man? And how does the universe exist? As I've read from some books or from google, the world or the earth created because of chaos that time, but I forget the reference from where. This is a very silly thing to me. But I am sure, when we talk about the gods of many things to deny its existence, and when we believe therein lies our faith. And until the very last day we argue about this, I'm sure there will be no end.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_PrimackJoel R. Primack (born July 14, 1945) is a professor of physics and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz and is a member of the Santa Cruz Institute for Particle Physics.http://www.nancyellenabrams.com/The God that Nancy explores -- one that's consistent with science -- unites all of humanity and provides the wisdom and larger sense of meaning that we need to face our future, as well as the future of our damaged planet, together. This is a God with no smoke and mirrors."A God That Could Be Real is full of sparkling prose, memorable quotes, and strikingly original insights that have never been brought to the page before, despite the long-running culture wars between organized religion and modern science over God and cosmic knowledge. My family and I spent a long dinner and all of breakfast the next day debating the meaning of this book. Give this book to the other questing minds in your family, and brace yourself for heated discussions." -- Sandra Moore Faber, National Medal of Science recipient and University Professor of Astronomy and Astrophysics, UCSChttp://physics.ucsc.edu/cosmo/primack_abrams/htmlformat/inabeginning.html"In A Beginning..." Quantum Cosmology and Kabbalah Joel R. Primack and Nancy Ellen Abrams Modern cosmology--the scientific study of the universe
as a whole--no longer sees the universe as an infinite,
changeless arena in which events take place, the way Isaac
Newton did. The universe is an evolving, expanding being,
and its origin is the oldest mystery. For the first time in
possibly a million years of human wondering, we are not
simply imagining the beginning: We are observing it, in
radiation that has been traveling to us since the Big Bang,
possibly bearing information generated even earlier.
Theorists are piecing the data together into humanity's
first verifiable creation story.
Most educated people today have an essentially Newtonian
picture of the universe as a place, devoid of all human
meaning, in which we happen to find ourselves. If people
come to understand the emerging scientific cosmology,
however, they may see from what we know of the early
universe that we actually are part of an extraordinary
adventure. With its mind-expanding imagery, this emerging
cosmology gives us a new cosmic perspective, a powerful
source of awe, and a potential source of meaning in our
everyday lives.The great miracle of our universe
is that something is happening. Galaxies are evolving. Life
is evolving. We are not just eternal potential--we are a
story.
If you play a drum, the skin vibrates in waves. If you
could get very close to it and slow things down
considerably, you would see the skin forming troughs and
crests, not just one at a time but different waves in
different directions across it, the troughs and crests
adding to each other. The sum of all the waves makes the
"sound." The wrinkles of inflation were the primal, cosmic
sound whose meaning the universe is still expanding to
express. This gives a physical picture of the origin akin to
the phrase at the opening of the Gospel of John: "In the
Beginning was the Word."
The idea that God followed a blueprint which existed
before the universe was created is also found in Jewish
Midrashic literature. Genesis Rabbah 1:1 says: "A ruler
building a palace consults an architect's plans. The
Blessed Holy One, in creating the universe, also worked from
a plan--the Torah."
Hokhmah and Kabbalah
Kabbalah, medieval Jewish mysticism, is the only
traditional cosmology we know of in which the universe was
understood to have begun in a point and expanded. We are not
kabbalists, nor are we trying to promote Kabbalah. We are
not arguing that Kabbalah was prescient or somehow knew
mystically what science is now discovering.
We are
interested in Kabbalah because it developed a set of ideas
describing the origin of an expanding universe and
integrated these ideas into its religious worldview. Can
Kabbalah help us to integrate the scientific concepts we
have been describing into our own culture?
"Kabbalah" means "secret tradition," and its origins are
uncertain. Though its earliest preserved writings date from
the twelfth century, from Provence and later Spain, its
adherents believed it derived from the secret Torah given to
Moses and handed down orally through the most religious Jews
ever since.
The early kabbalists were Jews living at the time when
Moslem culture was transmitting the philosophy and science
of Plato and Aristotle to Europe. Utterly committed to the
reality of the infinite and singular God, Jews began
applying Greek reasoning to long-standing problems of their
religion, especially the question of the nature of God. The
kabbalists used every resource they had--not only reason and
logic but poetry, meditation, and mystical experiences--to
try to understand the nature of God. They believed that they
could learn about God through contemplation of God's
relationship to creation. For this reason, they strove to
grasp the hidden reality behind the opening words of
Genesis.Kabbalah was a cultural outgrowth of medieval European
Jewish experience. By the time of the European
Enlightenment, Jews who read Descartes and Newton considered
the idea of Sephirot as absurd as angels dancing on the head
of a pin. But Kabbalah is a metaphorical description of a
set of fundamental universal relationships which in light of
modern astrophysics appears closer to reality than the
infinite rectangular space of the Newtonian worldview.Cosmology and Human Meaning in the Twenty-First Century
In a speech given in Philadelphia on July 4, 1994, on
the state of the world and its prospects, Vaclav Havel said
that the planet is in transition: as vastly different value
systems collide, all consistent value systems are
collapsing. We cannot foresee the results. Science, which
has been the bedrock of industrial civilization for so long,
he said, "fails to connect with the most intrinsic nature of
reality, and with natural human experience. It is now more
a source of disintegration and doubt than a source of
integration and meaning... We may know immeasurably more
about the universe than our ancestors did, and yet it
increasingly seems they knew something more essential about
it than we do, something that escapes us...Paradoxically,
inspiration for the renewal of this lost integrity can once
again be found in science...a science producing ideas that
in a certain sense allow it to transcend its own limits...
Transcendence is the only real alternative to extinction."
The search for scientific truth can be a form of
guidance. It is as divine as any other. The foundation-
building revolution that modern cosmology is undergoing
today, as it seeks a verifiable description of the origin of
the universe, requires that we transcend previous notions of
space, time, and reality. This is the kind of science Havel
is hoping for--a science whose metaphors may allow us to
comprehend terrestrial problems from a cosmic perspective.http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/Creation-A-Convergence-of-Torah-and-Science.htmlOnly the big bang theory can account for all these observations, and therefore this theory is now accepted by all mainstrea cosmologists.
The most surprising assertion of the big bang theory is that the universe was literally created from nothing. It is instructive here to quote the world’s leading authorities:
“It seems certain that there was a definite time of creation.”2 Professor Paul Dirac, Nobel laureate from the University of Cambridge
“The instant of creation remains unexplained.”3 Professor Alan Guth, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
“The creation lies outside the scope of the known laws of physics.”4 Professor Stephen Hawking, University of Cambridge
“The big bang is the modern version of creation.”5 Professor Joseph Silk, University of California
Today, it is not possible to carry on a meaningful discussion of cosmology without the creation of the universe assuming a central role. Professor Brian Greene, a theoretical physicist at Columbia University, wrote in 1999: “The modern theory of cosmic origins asserts that the universe erupted from an enormously energetic event, which spewed forth all space and all matter.”6
When cosmologists use the term “creation,” to what are they referring? Precisely what object was created? Scientists have discovered that the universe began with the sudden appearance of an enormous ball of light, commonly called the “primeval light-ball.” This “explosion of light” was dubbed the “big bang” by British astrophysicist Fred Hoyle. The remnant of the initial ball of light was detected in 1965 by two American physicists, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson, who were awarded the Nobel Prize for their discovery.Etc etc Only brainwashed drones or ignorant "agnostics" are unable to see the connection. . None of them are "scientist", and are either delusional about religion and/or science, ignorants, or intectually dishonest only defending their bias against religion or science.
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August 14, 2017, 07:05:10 AM Last edit: August 14, 2017, 09:45:27 AM by Przemax |
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After a nice sleep I came to conclusions why our mr. atheist had a go and excuse with his claims.
I had noticed he used an eristic escape. I had made a question that was not precise enough so that he abused its nonprecision.
I had asked. What science knows better than religion. Its obvious that science knows better about science than religion. It devotes more time to it.
Silly me. I should have asked what science knows better than religion about the matters that religion is talking about.
And the only conclusion is as of yet it was not proven to be that science can play God. Period. If it claim the otherwise, you can know they are lying and they know it.
What science vs bible is mostly doing is confirming it.
For example some people claim that those passages are inconsistant:
GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness. GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.
On the first day God spoke. And he had noticed that when he was speaking there was light. Thats because a sound can produce light. Sonulominescence is one of the most profound scientific experiment that proves the God's word.
And there could be a lot of sources of light other the sun. Radiation of matter like sonulomiscence shows is one form of the light. And the separation of light could mean that God's voice was not "heard" in form of trembling (radiation), making a radiation and some parts (of the water's on which the spirits of the God had float above) had trembled before the lord.
Darkness is there where one don't tremble before the lord. Its beutiful passage that science and bible come together.
I am glad that the Bible had inconsistancy like so. It only proves we are making it wrong, we do not tremble before the Lord and we are not enlightened by his word enough.
If Bible was consistent to us - silly people, it would mean its fraud made by a little less silly people that knows how silly people think.
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Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe.” – Galileo Galilei –
Mathematics is real science.
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August 14, 2017, 07:56:46 AM Last edit: August 14, 2017, 08:11:32 AM by Przemax |
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Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe.” – Galileo Galilei –
Mathematics is real science.
Not exactly. Mathematics can speak about the unexisting things in this universe. Universe that is made by God. You need to point out of what actually exist. You can invent a millions of parralel universes using mathematics. Those are nonexistant. Mathematics can be a mother of lies that is not of God and that God has none of it within it. In other words. If you speak about the God universe better be sure to stay within its boudary of truth and facts. I don't remember where it was written but I heard that Lucifer was an annointed cherub that was to guard from the expansion of the universe, in other words from lie. He betrayed and is now fascinated by the lies. And the lies are outside of the universe. Their places are not of this universe.
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August 14, 2017, 08:23:44 AM |
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Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe.” – Galileo Galilei –
Mathematics is real science.
Not exactly. Mathematics can speak about the unexisting things in this universe. Universe that is made by God. You need to point out of what actually exist. You can invent a millions of parralel universes using mathematics. Those are nonexistant. Mathematics can be a mother of lies that is not of God and that God has none of it within it. In other words. If you speak about the God universe better be sure to stay within its boudary of truth and facts. I don't remember where it was written but I heard that Lucifer was an annointed cherub that was to guard from the expansion of the universe, in other words from lie. He betrayed and is now fascinated by the lies. And the lies are outside of the universe. Their places are not of this universe. True and we can't define it by only that as he may have more meaning what he said .The fact that mathematics has no relation in scientific proofs.
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August 14, 2017, 08:47:21 AM |
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Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe.” – Galileo Galilei –
Mathematics is real science.
Not exactly. Mathematics can speak about the unexisting things in this universe. Universe that is made by God. You need to point out of what actually exist. You can invent a millions of parralel universes using mathematics. Those are nonexistant. Mathematics can be a mother of lies that is not of God and that God has none of it within it. In other words. If you speak about the God universe better be sure to stay within its boudary of truth and facts. I don't remember where it was written but I heard that Lucifer was an annointed cherub that was to guard from the expansion of the universe, in other words from lie. He betrayed and is now fascinated by the lies. And the lies are outside of the universe. Their places are not of this universe. True and we can't define it by only that as he may have more meaning what he said .The fact that mathematics has no relation in scientific proofs. Yes a big science mathematic. But it is a provable science.
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August 14, 2017, 08:54:57 AM |
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Yes a big science mathematic. But it is a provable science.
What science are you actually talking about? I hope not quantum "science" that is only represented by mathematics and has no ressemblence to reality what so ever. Its just a phony science.
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August 14, 2017, 12:14:04 PM |
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After a nice sleep I came to conclusions why our mr. atheist had a go and excuse with his claims.
I had noticed he used an eristic escape. I had made a question that was not precise enough so that he abused its nonprecision.
I had asked. What science knows better than religion. Its obvious that science knows better about science than religion. It devotes more time to it.
Silly me. I should have asked what science knows better than religion about the matters that religion is talking about.
And the only conclusion is as of yet it was not proven to be that science can play God. Period. If it claim the otherwise, you can know they are lying and they know it.
What science vs bible is mostly doing is confirming it.
For example some people claim that those passages are inconsistant:
GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness. GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.
On the first day God spoke. And he had noticed that when he was speaking there was light. Thats because a sound can produce light. Sonulominescence is one of the most profound scientific experiment that proves the God's word.
And there could be a lot of sources of light other the sun. Radiation of matter like sonulomiscence shows is one form of the light. And the separation of light could mean that God's voice was not "heard" in form of trembling (radiation), making a radiation and some parts (of the water's on which the spirits of the God had float above) had trembled before the lord.
Darkness is there where one don't tremble before the lord. Its beutiful passage that science and bible come together.
I am glad that the Bible had inconsistancy like so. It only proves we are making it wrong, we do not tremble before the Lord and we are not enlightened by his word enough.
If Bible was consistent to us - silly people, it would mean its fraud made by a little less silly people that knows how silly people think.
Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book.
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Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book. Do you even know why there is light? And why the lightbulb emmitt light? And what fire, light bulb, radicly hot items, radiated glowing materials have in common? Do you use your brain? Or do you only use your scientism guru man pseudobrains? If you would use your brain your would know that radiation caused by vibration is the source of light common to all those light emmitting object. But maybe you are beyond reason here. And yes the spirit of God was hovering above waters. So yes. There was something before the light came into being. It was a primordial chaos that God had gave order. I could explain you fairly tales. Like a Tolkien in silmarilion have a tons of explanations why something happened. Having explanations does not mean a jack shit. I could explain you why Ent men couldnt find an Ent women. Does that means anything? No. Having explanation does not mean its true. Its hopeless...... really. A guy that doesn't know how lightbulb works, KNOW FOR SURE how universe was created...... Oh come on..... It leads to nothing. Ignorance is not a virtue ok? as I said numerous times does not explain anything It does not explain TO YOU. What are you? Smartest guy there is? I highly doubt it.
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I think that in the world there are many magical things that can not be explained even with the help of science and the existence of God also refers to them. It can not be proved, one must believe in it.
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August 14, 2017, 12:56:13 PM |
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Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book. Do you even know why there is light? And why the lightbulb emmitt light? And what fire, light bulb, radicly hot items, radiated glowing materials have in common? Do you use your brain? Or do you only use your scientism guru man pseudobrains? If you would use your brain your would know that radiation caused by vibration is the source of light common to all those light emmitting object. But maybe you are beyond reason here. And yes the spirit of God was hovering above waters. So yes. There was something before the light came into being. It was a primordial chaos that God had gave order. I could explain you fairly tales. Like a Tolkien in silmarilion have a tons of explanations why something happened. Having explanations does not mean a jack shit. I could explain you why Ent men couldnt find an Ent women. Does that means anything? No. Having explanation does not mean its true. Its hopeless...... really. A guy that doesn't know how lightbulb works, KNOW FOR SURE how universe was created...... Oh come on..... It leads to nothing. Ignorance is not a virtue ok? as I said numerous times does not explain anything It does not explain TO YOU. What are you? Smartest guy there is? I highly doubt it. You said Sonoluminescence and I corrected you, most importantly, do you have any evidence to support any of these claims?
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August 14, 2017, 01:05:47 PM |
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Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book. Do you even know why there is light? And why the lightbulb emmitt light? And what fire, light bulb, radicly hot items, radiated glowing materials have in common? Do you use your brain? Or do you only use your scientism guru man pseudobrains? If you would use your brain your would know that radiation caused by vibration is the source of light common to all those light emmitting object. But maybe you are beyond reason here. And yes the spirit of God was hovering above waters. So yes. There was something before the light came into being. It was a primordial chaos that God had gave order. I could explain you fairly tales. Like a Tolkien in silmarilion have a tons of explanations why something happened. Having explanations does not mean a jack shit. I could explain you why Ent men couldnt find an Ent women. Does that means anything? No. Having explanation does not mean its true. Its hopeless...... really. A guy that doesn't know how lightbulb works, KNOW FOR SURE how universe was created...... Oh come on..... It leads to nothing. Ignorance is not a virtue ok? as I said numerous times does not explain anything It does not explain TO YOU. What are you? Smartest guy there is? I highly doubt it. You said Sonoluminescence and I corrected you, most importantly, do you have any evidence to support any of these claims? What do you mean by evidence? You live in one big evidence called universum. Just because something is very well known doesnt mean its not true. You have brainwashed slip of mind like many scientist that the only form of light must become from a sun. Thats first brainwashed evidence. Thats what you mean? What evidence do I have that you are brainwashed? There are numerous source of light, a tons a megatons. You are one of it, although your light comes from heat in ultra red. Secondly you are brainwashed to think you can't have your own correct observations and generalisation about the light. Yes there are some people that says the same as me. Does that make me evidenced? For example Ken Wheeler is speaking something similiar. Does that makes me evidenced? But what claims do I have in your opinion? That sound can come from light? I fucking showed you................... sonolumiscence..... What more do you need? Do you even know why water in a glass? Because of glass is just increasing the strenght of vibration. Its not necessary. Your brain can glow. You don't believe it? Donate one and some other people would see that.
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August 14, 2017, 01:13:03 PM |
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Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book. Do you even know why there is light? And why the lightbulb emmitt light? And what fire, light bulb, radicly hot items, radiated glowing materials have in common? Do you use your brain? Or do you only use your scientism guru man pseudobrains? If you would use your brain your would know that radiation caused by vibration is the source of light common to all those light emmitting object. But maybe you are beyond reason here. And yes the spirit of God was hovering above waters. So yes. There was something before the light came into being. It was a primordial chaos that God had gave order. I could explain you fairly tales. Like a Tolkien in silmarilion have a tons of explanations why something happened. Having explanations does not mean a jack shit. I could explain you why Ent men couldnt find an Ent women. Does that means anything? No. Having explanation does not mean its true. Its hopeless...... really. A guy that doesn't know how lightbulb works, KNOW FOR SURE how universe was created...... Oh come on..... It leads to nothing. Ignorance is not a virtue ok? as I said numerous times does not explain anything It does not explain TO YOU. What are you? Smartest guy there is? I highly doubt it. You said Sonoluminescence and I corrected you, most importantly, do you have any evidence to support any of these claims? What do you mean by evidence? You live in one big evidence called universum. Just because something is very well known doesnt mean its not true. You have brainwashed slip of mind like many scientist that the only form of light must become from a sun. Thats first brainwashed evidence. Thats what you mean? What evidence do I have that you are brainwashed? There are numerous source of light, a tons a megatons. You are one of it, although your light comes from heat in ultra red. Secondly you are brainwashed to think you can't have your own correct observations and generalisation about the light. Yes there are some people that says the same as me. Does that make me evidenced? For example Ken Wheeler is speaking something similiar. Does that makes me evidenced? But what claims do I have in your opinion? That sound can come from light? I fucking showed you................... sonolumiscence..... What more do you need? Do you even know why water in a glass? Because of glass is just increasing the strenght of vibration. Its not necessary. Your brain can glow. You don't believe it? Donate one and some other people would see that. I mean, how do you know god did all of those things. There are plenty of other books talking about other gods claiming their gods did it, why do you think the god from the bible is any better than the others?
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Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book. Do you even know why there is light? And why the lightbulb emmitt light? And what fire, light bulb, radicly hot items, radiated glowing materials have in common? Do you use your brain? Or do you only use your scientism guru man pseudobrains? If you would use your brain your would know that radiation caused by vibration is the source of light common to all those light emmitting object. But maybe you are beyond reason here. And yes the spirit of God was hovering above waters. So yes. There was something before the light came into being. It was a primordial chaos that God had gave order. I could explain you fairly tales. Like a Tolkien in silmarilion have a tons of explanations why something happened. Having explanations does not mean a jack shit. I could explain you why Ent men couldnt find an Ent women. Does that means anything? No. Having explanation does not mean its true. Its hopeless...... really. A guy that doesn't know how lightbulb works, KNOW FOR SURE how universe was created...... Oh come on..... It leads to nothing. Ignorance is not a virtue ok? as I said numerous times does not explain anything It does not explain TO YOU. What are you? Smartest guy there is? I highly doubt it. You said Sonoluminescence and I corrected you, most importantly, do you have any evidence to support any of these claims? What do you mean by evidence? You live in one big evidence called universum. Just because something is very well known doesnt mean its not true. You have brainwashed slip of mind like many scientist that the only form of light must become from a sun. Thats first brainwashed evidence. Thats what you mean? What evidence do I have that you are brainwashed? There are numerous source of light, a tons a megatons. You are one of it, although your light comes from heat in ultra red. Secondly you are brainwashed to think you can't have your own correct observations and generalisation about the light. Yes there are some people that says the same as me. Does that make me evidenced? For example Ken Wheeler is speaking something similiar. Does that makes me evidenced? But what claims do I have in your opinion? That sound can come from light? I fucking showed you................... sonolumiscence..... What more do you need? Do you even know why water in a glass? Because of glass is just increasing the strenght of vibration. Its not necessary. Your brain can glow. You don't believe it? Donate one and some other people would see that. I mean, how do you know god did all of those things. There are plenty of other books talking about other gods claiming their gods did it, why do you think the god from the bible is any better than the others? I showed you one of the evidence. It does not convince you? Im not going to despair because of it. Thats the nature of evidence - its not a proof. Proof is when something is so evidenced that it could not be disputed. Sorry to say to you official science does not have proofs just evidences, most of them non factual just mathematical. Your religion is not proven as well - that religion is called scientism.
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August 14, 2017, 01:25:22 PM |
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Science cannot explain alone how God intervene within us, this is the fact that experimentation cannot prove the existence of God Himself. Although the bible says it and if we all have our deeper understanding and appreciation to all things - there is God. I always ended up asking the following and same question out of curiosity: 1. What if God is the energy in ATP which gives us life and maintain it? 2. What if God is the light that drives the photosynthesis so human could eat? 3. What if God is the air the surrounds us and help us breathe? 4. What if God is your every single cell in which you do not see by your bare eyes yet you beleieve that you have cells? In all forms of explanation, there is God'ss intervention. In all hopes and despairs God is within us. Let us praise God in all matter. I found the article very great, I would scan it on my spare time probably
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August 14, 2017, 01:47:51 PM |
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Was god talking to himself out loud? Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. I guess he created bubbles of liquid before talking right? You are literally trying to defend the impossible with extremely silly arguments and wrong as well. Religion talks about the world being formed, god did it. No explanation whatsoever, science knows better https://www.space.com/19175-how-was-earth-formed.html or at least tries to explain it, the bible, as I said numerous times does not explain anything. Good luck with your fraud book. Do you even know why there is light? And why the lightbulb emmitt light? And what fire, light bulb, radicly hot items, radiated glowing materials have in common? Do you use your brain? Or do you only use your scientism guru man pseudobrains? If you would use your brain your would know that radiation caused by vibration is the source of light common to all those light emmitting object. But maybe you are beyond reason here. And yes the spirit of God was hovering above waters. So yes. There was something before the light came into being. It was a primordial chaos that God had gave order. I could explain you fairly tales. Like a Tolkien in silmarilion have a tons of explanations why something happened. Having explanations does not mean a jack shit. I could explain you why Ent men couldnt find an Ent women. Does that means anything? No. Having explanation does not mean its true. Its hopeless...... really. A guy that doesn't know how lightbulb works, KNOW FOR SURE how universe was created...... Oh come on..... It leads to nothing. Ignorance is not a virtue ok? as I said numerous times does not explain anything It does not explain TO YOU. What are you? Smartest guy there is? I highly doubt it. You said Sonoluminescence and I corrected you, most importantly, do you have any evidence to support any of these claims? What do you mean by evidence? You live in one big evidence called universum. Just because something is very well known doesnt mean its not true. You have brainwashed slip of mind like many scientist that the only form of light must become from a sun. Thats first brainwashed evidence. Thats what you mean? What evidence do I have that you are brainwashed? There are numerous source of light, a tons a megatons. You are one of it, although your light comes from heat in ultra red. Secondly you are brainwashed to think you can't have your own correct observations and generalisation about the light. Yes there are some people that says the same as me. Does that make me evidenced? For example Ken Wheeler is speaking something similiar. Does that makes me evidenced? But what claims do I have in your opinion? That sound can come from light? I fucking showed you................... sonolumiscence..... What more do you need? Do you even know why water in a glass? Because of glass is just increasing the strenght of vibration. Its not necessary. Your brain can glow. You don't believe it? Donate one and some other people would see that. I mean, how do you know god did all of those things. There are plenty of other books talking about other gods claiming their gods did it, why do you think the god from the bible is any better than the others? I showed you one of the evidence. It does not convince you? Im not going to despair because of it. Thats the nature of evidence - its not a proof. Proof is when something is so evidenced that it could not be disputed. Sorry to say to you official science does not have proofs just evidences, most of them non factual just mathematical. Your religion is not proven as well - that religion is called scientism. No you haven't. You do not know that god did what you claim he did, simple as that.
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