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November 07, 2017, 02:09:50 AM
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I don't know if anybody can explain anything to you.

I'm fairly intelligent.

Just list your scientific proof and put an end to this entire debate.

Stop trolling and do it.

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I did it for you many times, but your IQ just ain't got what it takes... just like it isn't great enough to scroll through this thread and look at all the proofs I have shown.

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November 07, 2017, 02:11:56 AM
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Just admit we cant prove or disprove such thing,and move on.

We can disprove retarded ''proof'' though. If you can't prove such thing then there is no reason to believe in it.

But you haven't been able to prove God doesn't exist. Your rebuttals to the proof that He does are simply circular reference blabber.

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November 07, 2017, 02:55:56 AM
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Well my opinion on this topic is pretty complicated.

Does god exist? Well it might. I'm a "see to believe" guy. There's no proof that he exists, but this can be a pretty long talk regarding this. God may not be how we think he is or how we think he looks like (human form, etc).


Again, the evidence of the existence of anything points to the existence of God. But when we use science to understand how complex everything is, while having no known method whereby it all came into being, then science shouts "God."

Proof for God's existence:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

And that is just a little start.

Besides. How do you know what anybody was thinking way back in the beginning. Religions contend that all people knew God for at least a few hundred years following the beginning.

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That's not a "Proof for god's existence". I mean, i understand your point and i do agree with you 100% in what you've said in those 4 links you posted, if it was it would be recognized in the scientific community, and this thread would not exist.
But having a further reading regarding Newton's 3rd Law and the cause-effect you're trying to explain, it starts making sense that some high-level entity (that we call "God"), created all of that. But that also bothers me.. I mean, you said that:
Cause and effect exist in all things. There is no evidence of pure random (opposite of cause and effect) anywhere. We almost cannot conceive of pure random.
And as a programmer, it's not hard to figure out that 100% random doesn't exist. I mean you can't say to a machine to give you a random number. The machine needs to rely on something. But having a deep thought on "random" in our lives, thoughts, actions,etc. i keep getting some questions regarding "destiny". Well, the actions we have, where we are looking, the words we say, basically everything we do, it seems normal.. our brain is "guiding us".. but i did had some awkards feelings and thoughts regarding this.. like: Is this "me" that's making me to look to the floor.. and stuff like this. Like if our decisions weren't made by us by "random" stuff.. Like i'm in a road and there are 2 exits. Left and right. These awkward feelings/thoughts start showing up and I'm in the right lane, but then i want to go to the left lane because i want to draw my destiny, but then i realize what if the path that was already made and the left lane was the correct one since the beggining? Same applies for all my previous actions since my birth.. Quite confusing, i know. Like Elon musk said once: "The strongest argument for us being in a simulation, probably being in a simulation, is the following: 40 years ago, we had Pong, two rectangles and a dot…That is what games were. Now, 40 years later, we have photorealistic 3D simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously, and it’s getting better every year. And soon we’ll have virtual reality, augmented reality. If you assume any rate of improvement at all, the games will become indistinguishable from reality.".
Same applies for a possibility of having a single copy of us (in other universe) with all different paths that we would have on this life. So in 1 universe i would go to the right lane, on this i went left, on other one i would turn around and went on the opposite direction ,etc etc.
I also sometimes think on this deeply, and i keep myself saying stuff like: "WTF am i doing here?", "Am i the only one thinking that it's weird all this shi*? How can you go to sleep and tomorrow go to work normally, without knowing wtf are you doing here, who brought you here (and those 6yr old kid questions, why sky is blue, etc etc)". Seriously.

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November 07, 2017, 04:37:15 AM
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Life continues to be one of the greatest miracles. It’s hard to deny God’s reality when you think about the process of birth – that two beings can come together and create life, a process that is complex from the moment of conception. While there are over seven billion people living in this world, no person has the same finger print. While identical twins share the same genetic components, they are unique individuals.
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November 07, 2017, 06:49:13 AM
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What do you think?
Please share your opinion about this article.


101 Proofs For God

A growing list of common sense Proofs for God.

Proof for God, #65 Mitochondrial Eve and Y-Chromosome Adam

 Genetic scientists seem to be in general agreement that we are all descendants of one woman and one man. This research was fairly recent, starting about 1978. They, of course, do not believe in the creation story of Adam and Eve in the Bible, but their conclusions are getting closer and closer.

In case you have not heard about this, it makes very interesting reading. But I think it raises a number of profound challenges to the Theory of Evolution.

The scientists base the above conclusions on the known facts of human reproduction, specifically on properties of the sperm and egg. .....
Full article read here: http://101proofsforgod.blogspot.com/2014/07/65-mitochondial-eve-and-y-chromosome.html


Religion tells us that God created Adam and Eve. After the disobedience, they were cast out. It was then told that Adam knew his wife Eve and they gave birth to Cain and Abel (which were male and male). So, in my own understanding, the creation should have ended there. But after Cain killed his brother, it was also told that he found himself a wife from another land(now, where did the other woman come from?).
So, the existence of God and the creation of man still remains a mystery. For me, no science can prove the existence of God.

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November 07, 2017, 08:47:29 AM
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The goodness of GOD is the scientific method that  GOD exists
The air, water and place we had is the best gift of  GOD
to us, the life we are enjoying is a cery precious gift from GOD
Without GOD we are nothing in this world. A very visible proof is alive
and our great provider
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November 07, 2017, 10:05:45 AM
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The most interesting is that we are already confused where we came from.
But if we believe in God then from Adam and Eve, so to speak from one person. But if you believe in scientific evidence, then from monkeys.
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November 07, 2017, 11:11:31 AM
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Just admit we cant prove or disprove such thing,and move on.

We can disprove retarded ''proof'' though. If you can't prove such thing then there is no reason to believe in it.

But you haven't been able to prove God doesn't exist. Your rebuttals to the proof that He does are simply circular reference blabber.

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https://www.quora.com/Does-G%C3%B6dels-Incompleteness-Theorem-prove-the-existence-of-God
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8475/g%C3%B6dels-ontological-proof-and-the-incompleteness-theorem
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/7013/g%C3%B6dels-theorem-and-god?rq=1


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg24030533#msg24030533


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684



The difference between me and you is that I actually take time to review your ''arguments'' and debunk them. The only thing you can do about my arguments is saying ''simply circular reference blabber.'' over and over again as if that would change anything. You are dishonest and a liar, god will not send you to heaven if you continue like this.

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November 07, 2017, 02:04:57 PM
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with we noticing how the complexity of the order of cells that exist in living things, especially human beings, are perfectly composed, is it not enough for us who are reasonable to believe that God exists, because there is nothing in this world that happens to be, unless there is already a designer all this ,, that is the most intelligent god who is capable of doing everything ..
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November 07, 2017, 04:16:28 PM
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Just admit we cant prove or disprove such thing,and move on.

We can disprove retarded ''proof'' though. If you can't prove such thing then there is no reason to believe in it.

But you haven't been able to prove God doesn't exist. Your rebuttals to the proof that He does are simply circular reference blabber.

Cool

https://www.quora.com/Does-G%C3%B6dels-Incompleteness-Theorem-prove-the-existence-of-God
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8475/g%C3%B6dels-ontological-proof-and-the-incompleteness-theorem
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/7013/g%C3%B6dels-theorem-and-god?rq=1


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg24030533#msg24030533


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684



The difference between me and you is that I actually take time to review your ''arguments'' and debunk them. The only thing you can do about my arguments is saying ''simply circular reference blabber.'' over and over again as if that would change anything. You are dishonest and a liar, god will not send you to heaven if you continue like this.

BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG LOL.
That's a whole "new level". So dishonest/liar people will go to hell and not heaven? Like SERIOUSLY? First of all it's not clear the existance of a "God", second it's much less clear the existance of after-death life.
Also who started that idea of heaven and hell were the religions. Christians and bible or whatever say that God forgives. If it forgives, he "will send you to hell" if you are dishonest? Like wtf?
And what kind of sick game is that? So "God" is sitting on his big chair, drinking a beer while playing with our lives? You did a good job, when you die you desearve clean clothes, a lot of food, 100 virgins, etc? Bro.. we are in 21th century, not in the middle age. Wake up please. Witches don't exist lol You guys need to start thinking a bit outside the box. Think for yourself and not for others.
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November 07, 2017, 10:22:46 PM
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Just admit we cant prove or disprove such thing,and move on.

We can disprove retarded ''proof'' though. If you can't prove such thing then there is no reason to believe in it.

But you haven't been able to prove God doesn't exist. Your rebuttals to the proof that He does are simply circular reference blabber.

Cool

https://www.quora.com/Does-G%C3%B6dels-Incompleteness-Theorem-prove-the-existence-of-God
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/8475/g%C3%B6dels-ontological-proof-and-the-incompleteness-theorem
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/7013/g%C3%B6dels-theorem-and-god?rq=1


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg24030533#msg24030533


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19666684#msg19666684



The difference between me and you is that I actually take time to review your ''arguments'' and debunk them. The only thing you can do about my arguments is saying ''simply circular reference blabber.'' over and over again as if that would change anything. You are dishonest and a liar, god will not send you to heaven if you continue like this.

BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG BIG LOL.
That's a whole "new level". So dishonest/liar people will go to hell and not heaven? Like SERIOUSLY? First of all it's not clear the existance of a "God", second it's much less clear the existance of after-death life.
Also who started that idea of heaven and hell were the religions. Christians and bible or whatever say that God forgives. If it forgives, he "will send you to hell" if you are dishonest? Like wtf?
And what kind of sick game is that? So "God" is sitting on his big chair, drinking a beer while playing with our lives? You did a good job, when you die you desearve clean clothes, a lot of food, 100 virgins, etc? Bro.. we are in 21th century, not in the middle age. Wake up please. Witches don't exist lol You guys need to start thinking a bit outside the box. Think for yourself and not for others.

Next time read, otherwise you are going to look stupid. I'm not the believer, badecker is, the ''you are going to hell'' thing is a joke, next time please, take the time to actually read.

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November 07, 2017, 11:05:54 PM
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Well if you're saying scientific there's tons of scientific churches that would love to discuss that time is relative to the amount of years our date is at (2017 years before christ).
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November 07, 2017, 11:18:14 PM
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even if big bang was true, where did it happen? you dont get an answer, you just postpone it. its a religion
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November 08, 2017, 05:52:26 PM
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even if big bang was true, where did it happen? you dont get an answer, you just postpone it. its a religion

The fuck are you even talking about, not having an answer for something makes it a religion? How stupid are you, really? It's the best we have, the big bang theory, thanks to a lot of evidence that indicates it did happen. Scientists don't know for sure and they don't know many things but it definitely doesn't make it a religion. What religions do is: I don't know something, instead of admitting it, I will make something up to explain it.

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November 08, 2017, 06:27:29 PM
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Next time read, otherwise you are going to look stupid. I'm not the believer, badecker is, the ''you are going to hell'' thing is a joke, next time please, take the time to actually read.

I read what you've wrote but didn't got it was a joke.. My bad.

The fuck are you even talking about, not having an answer for something makes it a religion? How stupid are you, really? It's the best we have, the big bang theory, thanks to a lot of evidence that indicates it did happen. Scientists don't know for sure and they don't know many things but it definitely doesn't make it a religion. What religions do is: I don't know something, instead of admitting it, I will make something up to explain it.

True. For hundread of years religion is used to explain the unexplainable at the moment.
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November 08, 2017, 06:43:44 PM
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True. For hundread of years religion is used to explain the unexplainable at the moment.
Science can explain parapsychological research but not if it is bound to the mainstream orthodoxy of materialism.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg23329271#msg23329271
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True. For hundread of years religion is used to explain the unexplainable at the moment.
Science can explain parapsychological research but not if it is bound to the mainstream orthodoxy of materialism.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg23329271#msg23329271

Or is simply not true, who knows  Roll Eyes

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November 08, 2017, 07:44:41 PM
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True. For hundread of years religion is used to explain the unexplainable at the moment.
Science can explain parapsychological research but not if it is bound to the mainstream orthodoxy of materialism.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg23329271#msg23329271

Or is simply not true, who knows  Roll Eyes

This kind of talk won't have an agreement between the talkers.
Same as sports talk. You have your opinion (saying it was fault, per example), and i have mine (saying it wasn't)..
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True. For hundread of years religion is used to explain the unexplainable at the moment.
Science can explain parapsychological research but not if it is bound to the mainstream orthodoxy of materialism.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg23329271#msg23329271

Or is simply not true, who knows  Roll Eyes

This kind of talk won't have an agreement between the talkers.
Same as sports talk. You have your opinion (saying it was fault, per example), and i have mine (saying it wasn't)..

Science doesn't care about opinions, what's real is real, magic is for kids.

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November 08, 2017, 09:29:32 PM
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True. For hundread of years religion is used to explain the unexplainable at the moment.
Science can explain parapsychological research but not if it is bound to the mainstream orthodoxy of materialism.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg23329271#msg23329271

Or is simply not true, who knows  Roll Eyes

This kind of talk won't have an agreement between the talkers.
Same as sports talk. You have your opinion (saying it was fault, per example), and i have mine (saying it wasn't)..

Science doesn't care about opinions, what's real is real, magic is for kids.

Yeah, that's obvious. Thing is people like to mix religion and science and the result is 100% bullsh*t. Based on opinions, speculations, myths, faith, beliefs, etc we have religions. Based on facts, reality, proofs etc we got science. Thumbs up for science aka get rekt jesus.
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