[XMR] Monero Speculation

[sockpuppet1]

MoneroMoooooo and noobwhatever, you may want to read this "Edit":

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg14859813#msg14859813

Fuckers.

[1715293073]

1715293073

[Macrochip]

Dash contacted me.

For the record: Dash did not contact you, rather it was vice versa. And I have your PM to prove it.

Your self-congratulatory attitude and arrogant drivel are baffling and mind-boggling considering you're sitting atop an achievement-mountain of nothingness.
I also find the timing of your 180° quite fascinating, as it was right before a major breakout in Dash's price. Suspicious as fuck.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Step 1) Open a short position in XMR
Step 2) Come to speculation thread and get "mad" about something
Step 3) Tell everyone you found an exploit/breakthrough/whatever and XMR is about to be "REKT"
Step 4) Profit

Sound familiar?

[arielbit]

Dash contacted me.

For the record: Dash did not contact you, rather it was vice versa. And I have your PM to prove it.

Your self-congratulatory attitude and arrogant drivel are baffling and mind-boggling considering you're sitting atop an achievement-mountain of nothingness.
I also find the timing of your 180° quite fascinating, as it was right before a major breakout in Dash's price. Suspicious as fuck.

for me i'm more concerned for this guy's health..if dash would pay for his talent, let it be. he need it for his health and other projects/ideas.

[iCEBREAKER]

Dash contacted me.

For the record: Dash did not contact you, rather it was vice versa. And I have your PM to prove it.

Your self-congratulatory attitude and arrogant drivel are baffling and mind-boggling considering you're sitting atop an achievement-mountain of nothingness.
I also find the timing of your 180° quite fascinating, as it was right before a major breakout in Dash's price. Suspicious as fuck.

for me i'm more concerned for this guy's health..if dash would pay for his talent, let it be. he need it for his health and other projects/ideas.

First Crazy Uncle Shelby will have to demonstrate how he has broken Dash, then he may sell them the cure.

Not sure how this thread turned into him fighting with DashHoles about something that's not exactly clear, but it happened anyway!   

[ArticMine]

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First Crazy Uncle Shelby will have to demonstrate how he has broken Dash, then he may sell them the cure.

Not sure how this thread turned into him fighting with DashHoles about something that's not exactly clear, but it happened anyway!   

He is trying to sell the Dash community something that can best be described as a hybrid between Monero and Dash.

[john-connor]

ok well 2036 is a long while away? why so long? does XMR have some type of amazing new tech they will unveil in 2036   quantum GUI ? and whats this?
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Everything OK?? Should i buy some XMR?? HELP ME??

The V2 block issue was patched 4 months ago.

I performed the exploit that lead to the Monero network consensus failure 4 months ago and posted screenshots of me doing so using a Mac Mini(twitter also proves date/time). Monero cost me two SSD's in the process leading up to the exploit. These types of bugs (lack of validation) only come from amateur computer programmers. There are 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited unless I discover more. I will keep you informed. Feel free to try and debunk this fact.

[ArticMine]

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I performed the exploit that lead to the Monero network consensus failure 4 months ago and posted screenshots of me doing so using a Mac Mini(twitter also proves date/time). Monero cost me two SSD's in the process leading up to the exploit. These types of bugs (lack of validation) only come from amateur computer programmers. There are 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited unless I discover more. I will keep you informed. Feel free to try and debunk this fact.

Anyone can claim that there are n zero day exploits in a software project. All you have here is an exploit that was fixed four months ago and a what is starting to look like a desperate need to manipulate the price of certain crypto - currencies.

Edit 1: Do I smell some kind of pump and dump group involving multiple crypto - currencies?

Edit 2: Or do I smell desperation?

[smooth]

I performed the exploit that lead to the Monero network consensus failure 4 months ago and posted screenshots of me doing so using a Mac Mini(twitter also proves date/time). ... Feel free to try and debunk this fact.

Post a link to the tweet showing a timestamp before the incident was already known to the public or consider yourself debunked.

[ArticMine]

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Post a link to the tweet showing a timestamp before the incident was already known to the public ...

C'est impossible. 16:06 - 15 de mai de 2016.

[sockpuppet1]

What's Monero's problem? None at all really, there are just a lot of shitcoin scammers and their sock puppets (most of the posts on this thread probably, and the other one run by one of those scammers where my replies are selectively deleted) who hate us, and that's a sign we're doing something right.

No smooth there is another problem.

Monero has this attitude that they are the shit and every one else is shit. And your community disrespects those who have supported Monero.

I took so much abuse from Shen-noether, iCEBREAKER, and various other members of your community.

Now it is time for payback. Do you really think I would post that I have a technical solution to eliminate the simultaneity in CoinJoin if I don't. Sheesh. You need to teach your community that I am legit. I am really disappointed with your shit community.

So now I am shopping around for someone who can take my technical idea and make it a Monero-killer asap. So I can teach your community a lesson that they deserve.

[sockpuppet1]

Step 1) Open a short position in XMR
Step 2) Come to speculation thread and get "mad" about something
Step 3) Tell everyone you found an exploit/breakthrough/whatever and XMR is about to be "REKT"
Step 4) Profit

Sound familiar?

I have no speculative position in cyrpto-currency.

I have not consulted with anyone else on this technological idea who does have a speculative position on Monero or Dash, other than what I have communicated here to all of you thus all of you with equal opportunity to speculate on what I wrote.

I am not here in CC to play silly games. I don't speculate in CC. I work on technology. That is all I do. Day in an day out.

I had my head deep in creating a new programming language and I stopped suddenly because an idea popped into my head. Then I realized I had a mistake it wasn't fully formed, so I deleted the post I had made about it. Then noobtrader attacked my reputation with his snide quote of a post I deleted within 60 seconds of posting it.

So then later the next day, I thought about it again for a another minute or two, and I realized I could actually make it fully formed and prevent all the trust in the system in terms of making sure that no party can steal funds and that no party can jam the protocol.

So then I realized I had stumbled onto a way to remove the simultaneity requirement (and jamming problem) that plagues CoinJoin. I got excited. I posted about it again here and specifically to take revenge on noobtrader for disrespecting me and being a jerk.

And so what I have received so far is more of the same shit attitude from the Monero community.

Now you guys will learn that I am legit. I have no idea why you think I am not legit. If you even took the time to understand my technical research over the past 3 years, you'd realize I had made major technical insights.

Whatever! Fuck.

...something that can best be described as a hybrid between Monero and Dash.

Not really. I removed the simultaneity requirement in CoinJoin. Since when has CoinJoin been similar to Cryptonote.

[ArticMine]

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Not really. I removed the simultaneity requirement in CoinJoin. Since when has CoinJoin been similar to Cryptonote.

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It will reduce the block chain size considerably. I also see how to put a viewkey in it. And the mix anonymity sets can be huge, say 50 or 100 transactions per mix (or more!). The disadvantage is the masternode can see the correlation of inputs to outputs. But just like any mixing method, if mix over and over, the probability of your anonymity set being known to any one party diminishes in probability.

You'd still need stealth addresses to achieve the delinking from the recipient's public key.
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Stealth addresses and viewkeys. This is starting to look like a Monero - Dash hybrid and technically I can see why. By the way your idea from a technical and theoretical point view is actually quite interesting, with a dose of shall we say "community irony" thrown in for good measure.

[bitwolf]

While I don't see a better cryptocurrency than XMR  I'm still gonna invest in it.  At the end - what do u expect from a currency more than security and privacy? - to wash your car?    And while all other cryptocurrency also don't have official GUIs but only unofficial ones but simply approved why are some people bitching  so much about the Monero official GUI    I don't get it.   Kids...

[smooth]

I warned earlier that copyleft discussions were off topic, as Monero does not use copylefts and has no plans to do so.

Now the post that I just deleted was long and also contained some Monero-related content, which I have retained quoted below. The copyleft stuff will have to go elsewhere. Further posts discussing copyleft (unless related to something Monero-related that is actually using a copyleft or proposing to do so) will be deleted in entirety and the author will have to repost anything Monero-related.

EDIT: I updated the quoted post as requested by the original author. That will have to do. Further continuation of the off-topic discussion can occur elsewhere. I noticed a similar post is also here

I am going to continually kick your ass in the market and in technology, because I have 30 years experience doing that successfully. And because I am a capitalist.

Smooth has affiliated with the wrong crowd. Hopefully he will wise up eventually as he sees that Monero is stuck in the mud and everyone  else is steaming ahead.

Look Ethereum and Dash have both already moved a lot more money through their ecosystems than Monero.

That doesn't mean I endorse concentrated distribution wherein the insiders can manipulate the float/market cap/price nor the preselling of vaporware, and I personally wouldn't do especially the ICO aspect because I think it is very illegal for me to do that because I am an expat US citizen. But that is the reality of the altcoin ecosystem. Everyone is here to gamble. The market gives what is demanded. Period. We can complain until we are blue in the face, but it will not remove the market demand for P&D. Eventually the SEC will crackdown (perhaps this DAO thing) but for now they are letting it run wild. So instead of dogma, it behoves each person to deal with the reality of the situation. Which is what I am doing. I personally am not going to launch an ICO. But if someone wants to pay me for my technical work, then why should I withhold my work from the marketplace.

You guys are so braggart, yet you can't even afford to fund your developers to work full time.

Lately I had recognized that there are individuals such as fluffypony that worked very hard on Monero and that Monero has perhaps the best distribution of any altcoin. So I had become more supportive of Monero, in spite of the fact that some members of the Monero community remain abusive to me. I still have a very bad taste in mouth from the Reddit discussions I had with your condescending jerk cryptographer Shen-noether last year. If your community simply respected others, then they (at least I) could respect you. But you disrespect the work of others. And that really pisses me off.

I do think it is important to inform speculators and the coin developers/controlling entities about the securities laws. I do think virtuall all altcoins are some sort of "mine the speculators" model. But lately I've realized that it is not my job to tell the marketplace it is wrong. The marketplace is what it is. This is nature doing its thing. I would be a Communist if I tried to tell nature it is wrong. The SEC might end up cracking down at some point, and that will be nature doing its thing.

So yourself coming from academia (a professor or physics researcher in Canada) where you are paid by socialism to do your profession, your vision of how work gets done is we all have a job paid for by the government and there is no proprietary intellectual property any more. This is a Communist delusion and it always ends in megadeath due to economic collapse. The Socialists were in control the Weimar Republic that lead to Hitler's rise. There are so many examples that litter the history of mankind.

Btw, I never advocated that my idea wouldn't be open sourced. I posited that it would be better for an altcoin to implement my idea and then later announce it for peer review when they were very close to launching it, so they would have first mover advantage. Besides there isn't really much need for peer review on the idea, because I am already so expert on anonymity technology that I am the person who should be peer reviewing it.

If I can get some compensation in return for the 4 years of day in and day out technical research effort I have devoted to crypto-currency, then that is capitalism.

We all know that the altcoin arena is a gambler's paradise and that is all that it is. You Monero folks seem to think you are holier than thou, but even your own community is only here because they want to make money from speculation. Please stop with the ideological dogma. Admit reality.

Open source is not Communism, because no one forces anyone to do anything. But viral copy-left free software licenses that forces those who contribute to open source to not be able to create proprietary derivative works, is in fact Communism. It purports to create a world where everything is non-profit. Eric Raymond, Linus Torvalds, and other non-insane people prefer permissive open source licences. I prefer the Unlicense which allows anyone to do what ever they want with my code. They don't even need to attribute me!

Let me give you an example so this isn't all just abstract.

Here is the open source:

https://www.nativescript.org/

Here is the for-profit derivative work by the same people (and that doesn't mean they open source all their server code):

http://www.telerik.com/platform/appbuilder


You are a guy who would say that musicians can't charge money for their downloads. And you advocate illegal decentralized file sharing systems wherein it is impossible to for the copyright holder to have the illegal content removed. You want to create a society of theft, which is precisely what Socialism is.

There is no need to enforce DRM in order to have people pay for songs. I will show you how to do it when I launch JAMBOX, which will be an open sourced decentralized platform. But it won't support having people standup file server nodes on their home Internet connections as a way to subvert copyright law.

You Commies are entirely out-of-touch with where the prosperity is going to come from in the fledging Knowledge Digital Information Age.

I am going to continually kick your ass in the market and in technology, because I have 30 years experience doing that successfully. And because I am a capitalist.

Smooth has affiliated with the wrong crowd. Hopefully he will wise up eventually as he sees that Monero is stuck in the mud and everyone  else is steaming ahead.

Look Ethereum and Dash have both already moved a lot more money through their ecosystems than Monero.

That doesn't mean I endorse concentrated distribution wherein the insiders can manipulate the float/market cap/price nor the preselling of vaporware, and I personally wouldn't do especially the ICO aspect because I think it is very illegal for me to do that because I am an expat US citizen. But that is the reality of the altcoin ecosystem. Everyone is here to gamble. The market gives what is demanded. Period. We can complain until we are blue in the face, but it will not remove the market demand for P&D. Eventually the SEC will crackdown (perhaps this DAO thing) but for now they are letting it run wild. So instead of dogma, it behoves each person to deal with the reality of the situation. Which is what I am doing. I personally am not going to launch an ICO. But if someone wants to pay me for my technical work, then why should I withhold my work from the marketplace.

You guys are so braggart, yet you can't even afford to fund your developers to work full time.

Lately I had recognized that there are individuals such as fluffypony that worked very hard on Monero and that Monero has perhaps the best distribution of any altcoin. So I had become more supportive of Monero, in spite of the fact that some members of the Monero community remain abusive to me. I still have a very bad taste in mouth from the Reddit discussions I had with your condescending jerk cryptographer Shen-noether last year. If your community simply respected others, then they (at least I) could respect you. But you disrespect the work of others. And that really pisses me off.

I do think it is important to inform speculators and the coin developers/controlling entities about the securities laws. I do think virtuall all altcoins are some sort of "mine the speculators" model. But lately I've realized that it is not my job to tell the marketplace it is wrong. The marketplace is what it is. This is nature doing its thing. I would be a Communist if I tried to tell nature it is wrong. The SEC might end up cracking down at some point, and that will be nature doing its thing.

Yes I believe in open source (not free software because nothing is free!) and I believe in creating a profitable corporation in order to fund the open source. This is what Eric Raymond understood and why he targeted his marketing to the Fortune 500 and he revolutionized the open source paradigm from a failure lead by Richard Stallman, to a successful paradigm adopted by mainstream capitalist society and business.

ArticMine, I don't dislike you as a person, but frankly you smoked too much pot up there in Canada.

[shitaifan2013]

on topic: can't wait for paybee, I got so much ideas :-)

off topic(more or less):

oh dear, looks like shelby completely lost his mind this time. pretty sure this is going to end very embarrasing, poor guy.  

one is always temtped to mark his spam accounts with negative trust to warn others that they might be wasting their time, but after remembering the drama that happenend after smoothie left him negative feedback once I doubt this would help with his condition.

[r0ach]

And you advocate illegal decentralized file sharing systems wherein it is impossible to for the copyright holder to have the illegal content removed. You want to create a society of theft, which is precisely what Socialism is.

I've never understood how you reconcile your strong anarchist views with intellectual property laws that require a world government to enforce.  It just makes 0 sense.  It is required there be an inconsistency in there somewhere no matter how you want to phrase the debate.

[smooth]

And you advocate illegal decentralized file sharing systems wherein it is impossible to for the copyright holder to have the illegal content removed. You want to create a society of theft, which is precisely what Socialism is.

I've never understood how you reconcile your strong anarchist views with intellectual property laws that require a world government to enforce.  It just makes 0 sense.  It is required there be an inconsistency in there somewhere no matter how you want to phrase the debate.

I would say it really doesn't really matter what people advocate. If these systems are technologically feasible they will exist. It is 100% pointless to argue what 'should' occur in this exact context. The context is important because it is suggested that it is "impossible" for a copyright holder to enforce. That being the case, if you don't like it or don't think it leads to the kind of society you want, that's just too fucking bad; get over it.

The same is true for decentralized and private cryptocurrencies, to the extent they have a demand at all.

[numismatist]

ok well 2036 is a long while away? why so long? does XMR have some type of amazing new tech they will unveil in 2036   quantum GUI ? and whats this?
...
Everything OK?? Should i buy some XMR?? HELP ME??

The V2 block issue was patched 4 months ago.

I performed the exploit that lead to the Monero network consensus failure 4 months ago and posted screenshots of me doing so using a Mac Mini(twitter also proves date/time). Monero cost me two SSD's in the process leading up to the exploit. These types of bugs (lack of validation) only come from amateur computer programmers. There are 12 ZeroDay flaws left to be exploited unless I discover more. I will keep you informed. Feel free to try and debunk this fact.

You are appearing on stage several monthes to early! This part of the Schmierenkomödie usually starts late in September: Evil Archwizard and Antagonistic of Monero threatens to fud down the price below 0.0010 levels threatens to destroy Monero, so some well known Whale can get in again, prepping up for the next spring season pump.

Would you be so kind, waiting behind the theater curtain until early in September, please? Thank you for your support!

[noobtrader]

WOW...

thanks for your appreciation, but you have to realize that i never meant to disrespect you. but these are development  for Dash, not for Monero hence the remark.

ill post this in Dash thread, as this surely not belong in Xmr thread. i hope you understand.

FYI on potential competition to Monero:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1290263.msg14848587#msg14848587

wow... this is new development      

im preparing popcorn now... LOL  

... and the post has now being removed. Frankly fixing Darksend could be worth a lot of money so no hard feelings towards TPTB_need_war for trying. If TPTB_need_war actually has a solution, I am sure the Dash community will pay him for it and it will be money well earned. Does the Monero community have to be concerned about all of this. I doubt it.

All mixing that is active requires, obviously, activity. If you don't get activity up you won't ever significantly increase transaction speed of CoinJoin / DarkSend transactions. Fortunately, Monero mixes passively and therefore doesn't require activity of other participants on the network.

Actually there is only an activity threshold above which offchain mixing can be just as fast as onchain. Actually to do ring mixing correctly so that rings never can overlap in ways that allow combinatorial unmasking, Monero should require activity, but I was apparently never able to get Shen-Noether to understand this during our Reddit discussions last year (because he is a condescending prick in the same mold as Gregory Maxwell who thinks he is too smart, actually they appear to hobknob together sometimes), so afaik Monero remains "broken" (suboptimal). The advantage of adopting my idea for preventing combinatorial unmasking, is it would also make the block chain entirely prunable, not just compressable (which afaik is what Monero and BBR erroneously label "pruning").

The key breakthrough is to remove the simultaneity requirement (lol, I am the one who fixes Gregory Maxwell's broken CoinJoin in 10 minutes of my spare time while my head is deep in designing a programming language), and on further thought I've decided I want to embarrass noobtrader (to show my appreciation for his disrepect) so I went ahead and I think figured out how to eliminate the simultaneity requirement in CoinJoin! I figured out how to eliminate the short-term trust aspect! Another advantage is it can radically improve the robustness of decentralized exchange as well.

It will reduce the block chain size considerably. I also see how to put a viewkey in it. And the mix anonymity sets can be huge, say 50 or 100 transactions per mix (or more!). The disadvantage is the masternode can see the correlation of inputs to outputs. But just like any mixing method, if mix over and over, the probability of your anonymity set being known to any one party diminishes in probability.

You'd still need stealth addresses to achieve the delinking from the recipient's public key.

Another potential advantage may be that this technique I've just invented gives you IP address obfuscation inherently, which is one of the big weakness of Monero. Monero adds I2P integration to attempt to overcome this weakness.

My apologies to ArticMine. I am rushing so much, that I mistakenly (cross-eyed) attributed the above quoted disrespect to him.

Edit: my discovery for offchain mixing (fixing CoinJoin) to remove the simultaneity requirement, is essentially something like a ring signature, but the signers don't need to include the other signers in their signature. The ring is formed by the masternode. It is quite clever. I don't know why I didn't think of it before! The reason Gmaxwell didn't think of this, is it because it requires the knowledge I did for the fixing the atomic DE protocol of TierNolan. The insight comes from the work I did there.