[XMR] Monero Speculation

[TrueCryptonaire]

Dash has a community, and bear in mind, the sign of the community is not how many trolls are writing online.

Dash has the community equivalence of a freeway service area. That is to say on the surface it has the look and feel of a small town, but when you actually take a look around, the majority of its 'citizens' are either there temporarily (speculators) or simply are employees paid to be there; to operate the gas pumps, to keep the tiny streets clean, the logos polished, and the coffee and donuts flowing with a smile. It has no actual genuine citizens.

Monero on the other hand has the population of a small city. It isn't a product or a corporation. People are not being paid to live here. Sure it can be a little bit dirty at times. But it is is a movement defined by the enthusiasm of it's underlying social fabric, the political protections of it's underlying technological fabric, and the potential opportunities afforded by its speculative fabric.

You can't compare a product to a movement. It would be like comparing McDonalds to the US Constitution.

Dash is a professional project that have people working for it and they get paid, so what?

Monero is guys trading with Aminorex and circle jerking each other and nobody gets paid (perhaps Aminorex and a few others that are trading on Poloniex). Nothing wrong with people buying/selling from/to Aminorex but besides 1-2 vendors having occassional sales on Alphabay with Monero (probably annually 10-20 K usd worth of illegal stuff sold in Monero?) the usage of Monero is very limited.

I think buying FUCKs from Risto on Crypto Kingdom is bigger use case of Monero than buying stuff on Alphabay - correct me if I am wrong here. Does anyone have any statistics how much there is FUCKs selling on annual basis...?

[rangedriver]

Dash has a community, and bear in mind, the sign of the community is not how many trolls are writing online.

Dash has the community equivalence of a freeway service area. That is to say on the surface it has the look and feel of a small town, but when you actually take a look around, the majority of its 'citizens' are either there temporarily (speculators) or simply are employees paid to be there; to operate the gas pumps, to keep the tiny streets clean, the logos polished, and the coffee and donuts flowing with a smile. It has no actual genuine citizens.

Monero on the other hand has the population of a small city. It isn't a product or a corporation. People are not being paid to live here. Sure it can be a little bit dirty at times. But it is is a movement defined by the enthusiasm of it's underlying social fabric, the political protections of it's underlying technological fabric, and the potential opportunities afforded by its speculative fabric.

You can't compare a product to a movement. It would be like comparing McDonalds to the US Constitution.

Dash is a professional project that have people working for it and they get paid, so what?

I wasn't taking issue with it being a professional project. I was taking issue with your assertion that it has a community.... which it hasn't.

Pay attention to the minutiae dumbass.

By the way, how the holy fuck can you not know what Bytecoin is?

[BTCIV]

Dash has a community, and bear in mind, the sign of the community is not how many trolls are writing online.


Dash is a professional project that have people working for it and they get paid, so what?

Monero is guys trading with Aminorex and circle jerking each other and nobody gets paid (perhaps Aminorex and a few others that are trading on Poloniex). Nothing wrong with people buying/selling from/to Aminorex but besides 1-2 vendors having occassional sales on Alphabay with Monero (probably annually 10-20 K usd worth of illegal stuff sold in Monero?) the usage of Monero is very limited.

I think buying FUCKs from Risto on Crypto Kingdom is bigger use case of Monero than buying stuff on Alphabay - correct me if I am wrong here. Does anyone have any statistics how much there is FUCKs selling on annual basis...?

I am 100% sure that you are not that crazy to believe what you're actually writing.
You know beter that Monero is way ahead of Dash and cannot even compare both communities in terms of quality.

Monero is great , it could be and will be much greater in future but for now i don't even think about selling and i bought at 1-5$ range. So stfu pls

[TrueCryptonaire]

What is the issue with premine/instamine etc?

LOL.  Just LOL

I do not get it despite I have tried to understand it for a couple of years.....

Perhaps my IQ of over 100 of under 80 is not capable to grasp the problem with it....?

FTFY    

Are these all the arguments you can give against premines, instamines etc?

[cAPSLOCK]

Oh boy! Dao and masternodes!!
When monroe gonna be that?
Waiting for announcement....

Come on.  Let's at least finish the ICO before we start announcing masternodes and a DAO for Romero.

[hughjays77]

Dear Monero-community, I hope this won't be useful for anyone, but...

If you will have some problems with Bittrex and you will open some ticket for support, you can choose two ways:

1.  Waiting few weeks for a response;

2.  Go into Bittrex-slack. Founded some very good feedbacks that problems were resolved within half an hour.

Thank you for sharing this.. I'm waiting a response since Friday (for a problem with my deposit) but maybe I have to choose the second way!

Anyway, when will finish this accumulation phase for Monero? I don't get how is possible that is stuck between 0.017-0.021 since April. This coin has huge potential, more than other pumped alt in these last months.

[nioc]

What is the issue with premine/instamine etc?

LOL.  Just LOL

I do not get it despite I have tried to understand it for a couple of years.....

Perhaps my IQ of over 100 of under 80 is not capable to grasp the problem with it....?

FTFY    

Are these all the arguments you can give against premines, instamines etc?

All the arguments have been given ad nauseam.

So this is all we have left to give.

Trolling the trollers

[saddambitcoin]

Dash - A good coin, very professional community and a good business plan.

that's just wrong... have you been on the dash-subreddit, or in their slack channel... they're just echo-chambers... Dash has almost no community except their paid for fanboyz

Dash has a community, and bear in mind, the sign of the community is not how many trolls are writing online.
When it comes to professionalism, Dash is in the level of Corporation when you compare it to Monero which is in the level of boiz playing in the garage and tuning their four-wheels. The fact that they have a marketing department on its own is a sign it is like a solid business.
The fact that they are able to pay for a marketing is exactly the sign of professionalism and that they take seriously the user-adaption.

Every troll in this thread (except me) is an echo-chamber - just look at the amount of circle jerking taking place here when I am absent. 

That speaks more to the quality of discussion on this forum. The community on reddit.com/r/Monero has been steadily growing with 100+ new subscribers per day on average. Lots of new users learning about Monero and asking questions.

Monero Stack Exchange is also growing rapidly:
https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero

[Febo]

Any reason why are you letting him shill his coin again? He is shilling it in this thread for a year as long anyway want to talk to him about it. I really dont understand you people. Let him go post on their thread. Is full of posts.

[dEBRUYNE]

"Ledger Hardware Wallet - Monero integration protocol for review"

https://github.com/LedgerHQ/blue-app-monero/blob/master/doc/RCT%20Monero%20validation%20on%20Ledger%20NanoS%20-%20v0.5.pdf

https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/6invis/ledger_hardware_wallet_monero_integration/

[TheFuzzStone]

I don't get how is possible that is stuck between 0.017-0.021 since April.

Rule #1. Don't buy Montero

Rule #2. You can not be sure (no one can't be sure, specially guys with tech analysis) that the price tomorrow will not go to 0.01 or even more.

[hughjays77]

I don't get how is possible that is stuck between 0.017-0.021 since April.

Rule #1. Don't buy Montero

Rule #2. You can not be sure (no one can't be sure, specially guys with tech analysis) that the price tomorrow will not go to 0.01 or even more.

I disagree with both. I believe in Monero (and I'm in since a year) and imo the top 5 on Coinmarketcap is the right place for XMR.
 

[HAARP]

I don't get how is possible that is stuck between 0.017-0.021 since April.

Rule #1. Don't buy Montero

Rule #2. You can not be sure (no one can't be sure, specially guys with tech analysis) that the price tomorrow will not go to 0.01 or even more.

I disagree with both. I believe in Monero (and I'm in since a year) and imo the top 5 on Coinmarketcap is the right place for XMR.
 

I'm with you as a small monero XMR investor. I'm holding my monero since 10$ price and looking for an exit. Buying it was easy but selling decission will be hard for sure.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

Dash is a professional project that have people working for it and they get paid, so what?

Monero is guys trading with Aminorex and circle jerking each other and nobody gets paid [...]

Good point. Evan has to pay people to work on Dash, whereas Monero attracts contributors because the project is actually interesting.

[Johnny Mnemonic]

By the way, how the holy fuck can you not know what Bytecoin is?

He's been trolling this thread for years and still doesn't know Monero's history.

Then he talks about the professionalism of Dash as a 'Corporation' compared to that of Monero.

I used to think he was just greedy and unconcerned with the goals or purpose of cryptocurrency. Now it appears I've been giving him too much credit.

[TheFuzzStone]

I disagree with both. I believe in Monero (and I'm in since a year) and imo the top 5 on Coinmarketcap is the right place for XMR.

Ohhh... I wanted explain to you another thing, never mind.

[TrueCryptonaire]

Dash is a professional project that have people working for it and they get paid, so what?

Monero is guys trading with Aminorex and circle jerking each other and nobody gets paid [...]

Good point. Evan has to pay people to work on Dash, whereas Monero attracts contributors because the project is actually interesting.

Eeeeeeh, nope...?

Which one do you think is more solid business: A business that pays salaries and have regular contributions, and an ongoing marketing team preaching the good news or something that relies entirely on volunteering?
You know, the contributors need their daily bread so rationally they should not sacrifice more time for free than for paid hours... After all, the volunteering benefits more the community than the individual even if the individual have a stake of the pie.

[TrueCryptonaire]

By the way, how the holy fuck can you not know what Bytecoin is?

He's been trolling this thread for years and still doesn't know Monero's history.

Then he talks about the professionalism of Dash as a 'Corporation' compared to that of Monero.

I used to think he was just greedy and unconcerned with the goals or purpose of cryptocurrency. Now it appears I've been giving him too much credit.

Hello Troll,


You are desperately shilling people not to sell close to the ATH bitcoinwise.


Best regards,
TrueCryptonaire

[whap]

Eeeeeeh, nope...?

Which one do you think is more solid business: A business that pays salaries and have regular contributions, and an ongoing marketing team preaching the good news or something that relies entirely on volunteering?
You know, the contributors need their daily bread so rationally they should not sacrifice more time for free than for paid hours... After all, the volunteering benefits more the community than the individual even if the individual have a stake of the pie.

Eeeeeeh, is a decentralized, global and free payment network a business? Money should be as neutral as possible. What if a business can't afford to pay salaries anymore? Sure all employees will keep on working for free haha.
A pity the shortsighted world you live in, where money values more than freedom.

[obit33]

Dash is a professional project that have people working for it and they get paid, so what?

Monero is guys trading with Aminorex and circle jerking each other and nobody gets paid [...]

Good point. Evan has to pay people to work on Dash, whereas Monero attracts contributors because the project is actually interesting.

Eeeeeeh, nope...?

Which one do you think is more solid business: A business that pays salaries and have regular contributions, and an ongoing marketing team preaching the good news or something that relies entirely on volunteering?
You know, the contributors need their daily bread so rationally they should not sacrifice more time for free than for paid hours... After all, the volunteering benefits more the community than the individual even if the individual have a stake of the pie.

Yeaaaaah, because bitcoin is worth nothing... Dude, their 'marketing team' has to pay people 10$ to even want to start a Dash-wallet... noone uses dash, noone cares, every cryptographer will tell you that Dash isn't sound, they even had a whole room of people at coinbase laughing at them...


Are you blind? Monero has almost triple the subscribers on reddit, monero gets added on exchanges for free (kraken, where Dash had to pay 50k dollars to be added), fluffypony gets invited at consensus (where was Dash-demigod Evan?), mobile wallets want to add monero (while it's much more difficult), hardware wallets want to add monero (while it's much more difficult)...
All of this without marketing whatsoever...
Have you seen what happened to Dash trying to get their own stack-exchange... they got to 13%, 13%... probably because their community is so big and their marketing works so well...

And if you really believe that Dash is a solid business then sorry but you're retarded, Dash is right now a money burning machine... Watch what happens when that bubble bursts and all their precious overpaid developers and marketeers flee the sinking ship (have you seen what the people at 'thedashforce' earn, have you seen what abj asks?)....



best regards,