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July 09, 2017, 02:44:49 PM |
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I think the main goal has to be to find new acceptance places. With that people will learn about it and get more information by researching!
All that really matters outside dnm is payment processors like e.g. bitpay. Alpaca socks and paintings amount to nothing.
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July 09, 2017, 03:22:48 PM |
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then when they added ZEC they got raided almost immediately. I'd never even thought of this! AB went down pretty much as soon as ZCash was supposed to go live! A lot of people believe LE created ZCash in the first place for this exact purpose.
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Millionero
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July 09, 2017, 03:48:29 PM |
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I think the main goal has to be to find new acceptance places. With that people will learn about it and get more information by researching!
All that really matters outside dnm is payment processors like e.g. bitpay. Alpaca socks and paintings amount to nothing. I was going to post an angry alpaca gif as a joke; but then the search turned up "angry alpaca" in the urban dictionary http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Angry+Alpaca 
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July 09, 2017, 04:15:54 PM |
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I think the main goal has to be to find new acceptance places. With that people will learn about it and get more information by researching!
All that really matters outside dnm is payment processors like e.g. bitpay. Alpaca socks and paintings amount to nothing. There will be https://payb.ee/ . I am not sure how far they are, but if I remember quite far to be available for every merchant. Web merchants that will care about their customers privacy will add Monero as payment. We need to understand that first will be the ones that sort of sell things concerning privacy. These should also be first alerted about Monero and what it can provide to them.
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KeyJockey
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July 09, 2017, 05:04:18 PM |
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... then when they added ZEC they got raided almost immediately.
LOL even if this can never be proven to be related, it's a great "anti-ZEC talking point" gifted to us Monero enthusiasts. Thanks, Feds!! 
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July 09, 2017, 06:34:10 PM |
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Omg, imagine when they start doing blockchain analysis stuff to trace all the transactions connected with Alphabay (if indeed they were connected with the raid) and start connecting those with real names.
Gotta get my hands on more XMR. Sh*t just got serious.
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c789
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July 09, 2017, 07:35:31 PM |
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then when they added ZEC they got raided almost immediately. I'd never even thought of this! AB went down pretty much as soon as ZCash was supposed to go live! A lot of people believe LE created ZCash in the first place for this exact purpose.  Is there a link to what Green said? Zooko said something similar ( https://twitter.com/zooko/status/863202798883577856), but if we have the page where Green said that I'd like to add it to my links.
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c789
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July 09, 2017, 08:18:06 PM |
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Thank you. I updated https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php to reflect this. I tried to be fair and point out that he said this not about Zcash, but about Zerocoin, but I agree it's significant given that he's now on the Zcash team. Plus, Zooko's quote removes any doubt as to their team's feelings about privacy.
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July 09, 2017, 10:20:32 PM |
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remember Zcash is an 'evolution' of Zerocoin, but imo this quote is significant because the same guy is heavily involved in both projects.
At the same time Zcash went from 3 month ROI for a 1080ti like a week ago to 5.8 months now, and that's pre-energy costs. Probably closer to 7.5 months ROI now with energy costs, so the enthusiasm for Zcash mining has now died down a lot.
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July 09, 2017, 10:55:35 PM |
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remember Zcash is an 'evolution' of Zerocoin, but imo this quote is significant because the same guy is heavily involved in both projects.
At the same time Zcash went from 3 month ROI for a 1080ti like a week ago to 5.8 months now, and that's pre-energy costs. Probably closer to 7.5 months ROI now with energy costs, so the enthusiasm for Zcash mining has now died down a lot. Yup, been warning people for over a month to not buy all these jacked up Vid cards to mine but Fools be fomo'in. Lol I'll be picking up some cheap ars GPU's soon. 
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.”
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Millionero
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July 10, 2017, 05:24:36 AM Last edit: July 10, 2017, 05:36:50 AM by Millionero |
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link to download? I searched "monero wallet" on the google play store and it has something from Freewallet.org. I installed it. Now it wants me to log in with google+, facebook, or my phone number. That doesn't make sense to me. Where do I download the legit wallet? Edit: I see from some recent posts on reddit that the wallet is still being coded. So for now I'm sticking with GnuRootDebian.
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Millionero
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July 10, 2017, 05:38:00 AM |
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Is somebody trying to get google to remove Freewallet from the store?
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c789
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July 10, 2017, 06:00:13 AM |
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Is somebody trying to get google to remove Freewallet from the store?
I'm not sure - maybe someone else will chime in. Here's what I do know: if you search the reddit threads, there are lots of people claiming to have lost XMR while using Freewallet. So, we try to warn people. As for reporting to Google, I haven't looked into this but I'm not sure they would do anything because Freewallet does disclose that your private keys are accessible to them, and also because Monero transactions are private so if they did take money, it couldn't be traced. It's like a person giving the key to their house to the bad apple neighbor and calling the police if something ends up missing.
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July 10, 2017, 10:32:08 AM |
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KeyJockey
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July 10, 2017, 03:25:19 PM |
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AlphaBay disappearing having any effect on XMR... you guys think?
They are not disappearing. Whatever the problem they have stated that they are restarting their servers. So... what's the REAL lowdown here? Contrary to initial 'optimisim' is AlphaBay really dead now, or still coming back, or likely to be a honeypot now, or gonna be suspected to be honeypot and DEAD anyway, even IF it does attempt to come back 'legitimately'...? Personally I've never been on it, no interest in shopping for what's sold there at all, but I'm still interested overall in its existence INSOFAR AS IT HELPS MONERO GET A GOOD FOOTHOLD FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD WHO ALSO NEEDS FUNGIBILITY IN OUR FUTURE DIGITAL CRYPTO!!! Seems like the people replying in the alphabay reddit clear-net sub, to the poster saying it's an exit scam for sure, are being knee-jerk hostile perhaps only because they do not want to believe it's true... "whistling past the graveyard" as it were...? Or, on the other hand, it also occurred to me that the guy who is SAYING he was able to DOXX the site operator via tracking a bitcoin payment from cold storage address, to his exchange account and real identity, MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...  Hmm... hmm indeed...
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aminorex
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July 10, 2017, 08:36:20 PM |
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MAY BE JUST A COVER STORY TO PUT PEOPLE OFF THE SCENT OF A.B. BEING TAKEN DOWN, IN FACT, BY THE ZCASH BACK-DOOR...  It's called 'constructive knowledge', and is used e.g. when the source of probable cause for a search is such as would disclose methods of evidence collection which LEO'S prefer not to disclose in open court. Sometimes such methods are unlawful.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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