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If they were sane, they wouldn't keep that much online, I'd imagine for all payments greater then $foo there's probably some oversight. But yes, there's no reason it shouldn't have been sent by now.
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March 21, 2013, 07:34:30 PM |
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The graphs only show confirmed payouts, so the big lessthan 1 bet isn't included yet, but it does show up as a pending liability, and in the bottom line: Total of 155 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-21 12:26pm (up to block 227207)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 104433 | 1 (0.00001) | 102809 | 1623 | 1225.68 | 1280.61 | 127.41 | -54.93 | 104.482 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 5537 | 0 (0.00000) | 5010 | 527 | 94.43 | 0.06 | 20.72 | 94.36 | 0.065 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 7984 | 1 (0.00013) | 7528 | 455 | 121.14 | 160.02 | 12.84 | -38.88 | 132.099 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 12840 | 5 (0.00040) | 12362 | 473 | 254.71 | 432.12 | 10.09 | -177.41 | 169.650 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 14516 | 1 (0.00007) | 14070 | 445 | 506.11 | 5.10 | 22.07 | 501.00 | 1.010 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 19699 | 9 (0.00047) | 19280 | 410 | 1127.66 | 1396.50 | 1.43 | -268.84 | 123.840 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 20292 | 24 (0.00121) | 19794 | 474 | 1486.43 | 803.43 | 55.83 | 683.00 | 54.051 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 19767 | 38 (0.00197) | 19268 | 461 | 2347.71 | 1562.73 | 48.39 | 784.98 | 66.564 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 24963 | 108 (0.00439) | 24469 | 386 | 5878.86 | 8640.54 | 13.20 | -2761.67 | 146.976 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 35462 | 285 (0.00820) | 34472 | 705 | 8120.57 | 6652.56 | 10.06 | 1468.00 | 81.922 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 123100 | 1864 (0.01521) | 120707 | 529 | 38273.41 | 32681.55 | 2.08 | 5591.85 | 85.390 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 24773 | 573 (0.02347) | 23842 | 358 | 7732.17 | 8550.16 | 15.09 | -817.99 | 110.579 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 77649 | 2403 (0.03111) | 74847 | 399 | 38372.69 | 34098.18 | 9.37 | 4274.50 | 88.861 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 28983 | 1319 (0.04621) | 27224 | 440 | 9469.05 | 10075.36 | 25.19 | -606.31 | 106.403 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 34936 | 2132 (0.06172) | 32409 | 395 | 7654.53 | 7446.66 | 31.36 | 207.86 | 97.284 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 48047 | 4380 (0.09205) | 43204 | 463 | 16373.02 | 18126.75 | 7.37 | -1753.72 | 110.711 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 188146 | 23023 (0.12270) | 164609 | 514 | 92704.92 | 91572.61 | 100.49 | 1132.31 | 98.779 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 97867 | 17833 (0.18325) | 79480 | 554 | 171874.25 | 173588.52 | 3314.95 | -1714.26 | 100.997 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 253595 | 61765 (0.24411) | 191255 | 575 | 368477.69 | 354435.29 | 2322.48 | 14042.39 | 96.189 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 252909 | 92858 (0.36803) | 159453 | 598 | 584938.01 | 576809.82 | 1013.26 | 8128.19 | 98.610 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1137511 | 554272 (0.48799) | 581557 | 1682 | 887734.68 | 869478.66 | 2925.07 | 18256.02 | 97.944 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 621816 | 310075 (0.49960) | 310570 | 1171 | 667347.47 | 651240.32 | 6521.37 | 16107.15 | 97.586 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 351748 | 258082 (0.73509) | 93006 | 660 | 303153.24 | 295637.34 | 5455.35 | 7515.90 | 97.521 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 77743 | 61309 (0.79406) | 15901 | 533 | 62450.19 | 61151.39 | 1187.63 | 1298.79 | 97.920 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 67156 | 57051 (0.85707) | 9514 | 591 | 78760.80 | 78093.35 | 400.62 | 667.44 | 99.153 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 103239 | 94091 (0.91642) | 8581 | 567 | 72245.85 | 71270.13 | 0.58 | 975.71 | 98.649 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 17446 | 15956 (0.97992) | 327 | 1163 | 24258.09 | 23845.37 | 240.28 | 412.72 | 98.299 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3655453 | 1506280 | 2132314 | 16859 | 788776.48 | 773197.33 | 266.02 | 15579.14 | 98.025 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 116704 | 53178 | 63234 | 292 | 2664207.01 | 2605837.94 | 23628.70 | 58369.07 | 97.809 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3772157 | 1559458 | 2195548 | 17151 | 3452983.50 | 3379035.28 | 23894.72 | 73948.21 | 97.858 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 73948.21883620 BTC (2.142%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 2973.37997500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 70974.83886120 BTC (2.055%) Pending Liabilities: 1786.48765676 BTC Final SD Profit: 69188.35120444 BTC (2.004%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 11855457 : SatoshiDice Tx: 6938263 (58.5%) Blockchain MB: 5102.7 : SatoshiDice MB: 2855.7 (56.0%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCiyb61l.png&t=665&c=qfJrptFTnD5EzA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOeABg54.png&t=665&c=tumucIQOco6oLQ)
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March 22, 2013, 04:56:59 AM |
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i just happened to be watching about 5 minutes ago & someone else won on the 'under 1' category, 640 back it was: http://blockchain.info/address/15MizdAbunve8vVrooUtn3j3DF7R5Ebwbdalso was alternating transaction fees, between 0.0005 and 0.00105, so maybe trying to double spend, too... but guess it doesn't matter on the win?
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March 22, 2013, 04:27:00 PM |
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Total of 86 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-22 09:17am (up to block 227407)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 106429 | 3 (0.00003) | 104786 | 1640 | 1252.69 | 3840.74 | 129.39 | -2588.04 | 306.598 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 5583 | 0 (0.00000) | 5054 | 529 | 95.60 | 0.06 | 20.72 | 95.54 | 0.071 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8036 | 1 (0.00013) | 7580 | 455 | 122.77 | 160.03 | 12.84 | -37.25 | 130.347 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 13388 | 5 (0.00039) | 12909 | 474 | 266.15 | 432.18 | 10.09 | -166.03 | 162.384 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 14801 | 1 (0.00007) | 14355 | 445 | 513.08 | 5.14 | 22.07 | 507.94 | 1.003 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 20220 | 9 (0.00045) | 19801 | 410 | 1150.94 | 1396.62 | 1.43 | -245.68 | 121.346 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 20775 | 24 (0.00118) | 20276 | 475 | 1514.55 | 803.57 | 55.83 | 710.98 | 53.057 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 19822 | 38 (0.00196) | 19323 | 461 | 2349.16 | 1562.74 | 48.39 | 786.42 | 66.523 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25040 | 109 (0.00442) | 24544 | 387 | 5882.35 | 8643.05 | 13.20 | -2760.69 | 146.932 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 35542 | 287 (0.00824) | 34550 | 705 | 8122.76 | 6657.57 | 10.06 | 1465.19 | 81.962 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 123691 | 1871 (0.01519) | 121291 | 529 | 39068.06 | 33656.53 | 2.08 | 5411.52 | 86.148 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 24828 | 574 (0.02346) | 23895 | 359 | 7734.53 | 8550.60 | 15.09 | -816.06 | 110.551 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 78121 | 2414 (0.03106) | 75308 | 399 | 39196.79 | 35068.29 | 9.37 | 4128.50 | 89.467 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29054 | 1320 (0.04614) | 27291 | 443 | 9478.78 | 10075.73 | 25.20 | -596.95 | 106.298 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35011 | 2140 (0.06183) | 32473 | 398 | 7657.07 | 7448.75 | 31.37 | 208.31 | 97.279 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 48244 | 4401 (0.09211) | 43380 | 463 | 16384.66 | 18134.40 | 7.37 | -1749.73 | 110.679 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 188674 | 23091 (0.12272) | 165068 | 515 | 93631.52 | 92502.27 | 100.50 | 1129.24 | 98.794 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 98410 | 17937 (0.18330) | 79919 | 554 | 172906.62 | 174563.58 | 3314.95 | -1656.95 | 100.958 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 254517 | 61991 (0.24411) | 191951 | 575 | 369151.53 | 355183.72 | 2322.48 | 13967.81 | 96.216 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 253827 | 93200 (0.36805) | 160028 | 599 | 585566.89 | 577477.41 | 1013.27 | 8089.48 | 98.619 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1139256 | 555108 (0.48798) | 582465 | 1683 | 888967.23 | 871091.96 | 2925.07 | 17875.27 | 97.989 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 623745 | 311017 (0.49957) | 311553 | 1175 | 668053.02 | 651763.00 | 6521.38 | 16290.02 | 97.562 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 352736 | 258792 (0.73506) | 93276 | 668 | 303348.23 | 295824.13 | 5455.37 | 7524.09 | 97.520 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 78152 | 61645 (0.79421) | 15973 | 534 | 62636.92 | 61241.35 | 1187.64 | 1395.56 | 97.772 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 67664 | 57493 (0.85720) | 9578 | 593 | 78911.88 | 78249.32 | 400.62 | 662.56 | 99.160 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 104028 | 94819 (0.91649) | 8640 | 569 | 72475.69 | 71502.69 | 0.58 | 973.00 | 98.657 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 17644 | 16145 (0.97991) | 331 | 1168 | 24326.17 | 23912.71 | 240.29 | 413.46 | 98.300 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3669794 | 1511073 | 2141808 | 16913 | 790684.31 | 777390.33 | 268.10 | 13293.98 | 98.319 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 117444 | 53362 | 63790 | 292 | 2670081.46 | 2612357.93 | 23628.70 | 57723.53 | 97.838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3787238 | 1564435 | 2205598 | 17205 | 3460765.78 | 3389748.26 | 23896.80 | 71017.51 | 97.948 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 71017.51924560 BTC (2.052%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 2989.02297500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 68028.49627060 BTC (1.966%) Pending Liabilities: -65.16813498 BTC Final SD Profit: 68093.66440558 BTC (1.968%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 11905652 : SatoshiDice Tx: 6964914 (58.5%) Blockchain MB: 5126.6 : SatoshiDice MB: 2867.0 (55.9%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbnoqNwM.png&t=665&c=ENn-lIDHsXmLXg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPKM3G3O.png&t=665&c=-NOA_iiK5cP1ZQ)
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March 22, 2013, 08:17:44 PM |
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What's the RTP column again?
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March 22, 2013, 08:38:46 PM |
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What's the RTP column again?
Return To Player. It's the payouts as a percentage of the bet amount. It should be around 98.1% for each bet, eventually. RTP values over 100% mean the house is losing overall on that bet. For lessthan 1 it's currently over 300%, meaning the house has paid out more than 3 times as much as it has taken in bets on that outcome.
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March 22, 2013, 09:42:15 PM |
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So in other words if people who didn't know (or thought they knew) statistics would bet on lessthan 2 and lessthan 8 because they're 'due' to win since their payouts is <1% and ~1% respectively.
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Simulation results: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0vrtAXW.png&t=665&c=_a4KLxEjfBAtLw) This histogram is the result of running a thousand repetitions of 1127422 trials and record the longest number of losses in a row. From the simulated results, we can say that the probability of less than 16 in a row and more than 31 in a row is less than one in a thousand. So I'd say 65 in a row is significantly improbable. Since I'm home now I've looked for the paper I thought I had but can't find it. The histogram looks familiar though and I think it might be an extreme value distribution, but I'm not sure. I'll keep looking. If you want to try the simulation for yourself, especially if you have a faster computer than my macbook air and want to try more than a thousand repetitions, here's the R script I wrote: require(ggplot2)
# function to generate simulated maximum losses in a row sim.func <- function(x) { #create x trials: win = 1, loss = 0 # and find all wins and losses in a row a <- rle(rbinom(x, 1, 32000/65536)) # find the longest number of losses in a row b <- max(a$lengths[which(a$values == 0)]) # if no losses, return 0 otherwise return b if(b == -Inf){return(0)} else {return(b)} } # number of trials trials <- 1127422
# number of repetition of trials # change for greater accuracy repetitions <- 1000
# generate results result <- sapply(rep(trials, repetitions), sim.func) result.df <- data.frame(count = result)
# generate plot plot.1 <- ggplot(result.df, aes(x=count)) + geom_bar(binwidth=1) + scale_x_continuous(breaks=seq(min(result.df),max(result.df),2)) + labs( x = "", y = "Count", title = "Histogram of simulated maximum number of sequential losses:\n1000 repetitions of 1127422 trials at P(win) = 32000/65536") + xlab("") + ylab("count")
# display plot plot.1
#eof
100K iterations: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2F27ysnqt.png&t=665&c=9HtSgnjRvqlEjA) Does it say anywhere in the satoshi dice small print that the lucky numbers are ordered randomly though? They may introduce such runs to give an advantage over martingale strategies while also having long win runs to cancel this out. Someone who has the data should make a histogram of the actual loss and win runs.
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March 23, 2013, 01:51:21 AM |
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So in other words if people who didn't know (or thought they knew) statistics would bet on lessthan 2 and lessthan 8 because they're 'due' to win since their payouts is <1% and ~1% respectively.
or avoid those bets because they're unlucky... Superstition works in both directions. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 23, 2013, 01:54:52 AM |
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So in other words if people who didn't know (or thought they knew) statistics would bet on lessthan 2 and lessthan 8 because they're 'due' to win since their payouts is <1% and ~1% respectively.
or avoid those bets because they're unlucky... Superstition works in both directions. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Dooglas, can you increase the line thickness on your charts. My colorblind eyes have trouble.
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March 23, 2013, 02:05:46 AM |
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Does it say anywhere in the satoshi dice small print that the lucky numbers are ordered randomly though?
It says how the lucky numbers are generated, and there's no way they can control them. SatoshiDice picked out a list of secrets in advance, published their hashes, and use the daily secret combined with each bet's transaction id to generate the lucky number in a way you can reproduce ( see http://dooglus.com/sd ) once the secret has been made public. I went through the bets in the order the bet transactions themselves made it into the blockchain. That order is determined by the miners. It's conceivable that a miner decided to group all losing bets together in a block for some reason.
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There are two explanations for long strings of wins/losses: 1) Player knows day's secret 2) Somebody manipulates probability of inclusion transaction in blockchain depending on bet resuilt (double spends, selective mining or both).
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Total of 66 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-23 12:28pm (up to block 227647)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 109389 | 3 (0.00003) | 107733 | 1653 | 1294.18 | 3840.95 | 130.58 | -2546.77 | 296.786 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 5655 | 0 (0.00000) | 5124 | 531 | 96.58 | 0.07 | 20.91 | 96.50 | 0.075 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8158 | 1 (0.00013) | 7702 | 455 | 125.28 | 160.05 | 12.84 | -34.76 | 127.749 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 14011 | 5 (0.00037) | 13531 | 475 | 282.38 | 432.26 | 10.09 | -149.87 | 153.074 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 15312 | 1 (0.00007) | 14866 | 445 | 530.48 | 5.23 | 22.07 | 525.25 | 0.986 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 21511 | 9 (0.00043) | 21092 | 410 | 1246.34 | 1397.10 | 1.43 | -150.75 | 112.096 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 24036 | 31 (0.00132) | 23529 | 476 | 1791.76 | 1460.58 | 55.83 | 331.18 | 81.516 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 19924 | 38 (0.00195) | 19422 | 464 | 2350.73 | 1562.74 | 48.40 | 787.98 | 66.479 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25117 | 109 (0.00441) | 24619 | 389 | 5884.75 | 8643.07 | 13.21 | -2758.31 | 146.872 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 35667 | 287 (0.00821) | 34673 | 707 | 8124.79 | 6657.58 | 10.06 | 1467.21 | 81.942 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 124711 | 1889 (0.01521) | 122291 | 531 | 39188.18 | 33780.16 | 2.08 | 5408.02 | 86.200 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 24895 | 576 (0.02348) | 23959 | 360 | 7736.27 | 8553.59 | 15.10 | -817.31 | 110.565 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 78859 | 2429 (0.03096) | 76030 | 400 | 39249.71 | 35085.92 | 9.37 | 4163.78 | 89.392 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29150 | 1326 (0.04620) | 27376 | 448 | 9482.51 | 10077.50 | 25.23 | -594.98 | 106.275 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35097 | 2149 (0.06193) | 32549 | 399 | 7664.12 | 7469.66 | 31.37 | 194.46 | 97.463 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 48394 | 4418 (0.09217) | 43513 | 463 | 16393.54 | 18148.83 | 7.37 | -1755.29 | 110.707 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 189324 | 23171 (0.12273) | 165629 | 524 | 93693.17 | 92558.48 | 100.54 | 1134.69 | 98.789 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 99094 | 18058 (0.18326) | 80479 | 557 | 172991.26 | 174634.12 | 3314.95 | -1642.86 | 100.950 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 255583 | 62253 (0.24412) | 192753 | 577 | 369383.17 | 355461.44 | 2322.49 | 13921.72 | 96.231 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 254774 | 93541 (0.36802) | 160634 | 599 | 585728.62 | 577632.40 | 1013.27 | 8096.22 | 98.618 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1141238 | 556084 (0.48799) | 583464 | 1690 | 891156.14 | 873370.63 | 2925.08 | 17785.50 | 98.004 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 626827 | 312564 (0.49959) | 313081 | 1182 | 669115.96 | 652908.24 | 6521.40 | 16207.71 | 97.578 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 354253 | 259896 (0.73504) | 93687 | 670 | 303522.12 | 295988.60 | 5455.38 | 7533.52 | 97.518 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 78652 | 62037 (0.79419) | 16077 | 538 | 62755.73 | 61368.19 | 1187.64 | 1387.54 | 97.789 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 68415 | 58152 (0.85745) | 9668 | 595 | 79044.84 | 78385.03 | 400.63 | 659.81 | 99.165 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 105159 | 95839 (0.91639) | 8744 | 576 | 72699.88 | 71702.87 | 0.61 | 997.00 | 98.629 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 17841 | 16332 (0.97990) | 335 | 1174 | 24377.45 | 23964.05 | 240.30 | 413.39 | 98.304 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3693448 | 1517757 | 2158695 | 16996 | 793140.28 | 780006.18 | 269.69 | 13134.10 | 98.344 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 117598 | 53441 | 63865 | 292 | 2672769.79 | 2615243.29 | 23628.70 | 57526.50 | 97.848 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3811046 | 1571198 | 2222560 | 17288 | 3465910.08 | 3395249.47 | 23898.39 | 70660.61 | 97.961 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 70660.61080390 BTC (2.039%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3014.09537500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 67646.51542890 BTC (1.952%) Pending Liabilities: -65.12216135 BTC Final SD Profit: 67711.63759025 BTC (1.954%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 11972428 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7005217 (58.5%) Blockchain MB: 5158.7 : SatoshiDice MB: 2884.8 (55.9%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKaJf4HN.png&t=665&c=dKOANLwxKbg0eQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlkKHGhY.png&t=665&c=e4CxGPDtg38SCw)
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March 23, 2013, 07:33:40 PM |
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I forgot about the request for thicker lines. These are the same graphs with thicker lines for comparison. Is this better? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fp8GFIlH.png&t=665&c=um-6-prELrcbqg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmHDkF43.png&t=665&c=OU2ZZW5QzknKsw)
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Total of 61 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-24 12:27pm (up to block 227856)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 110183 | 3 (0.00003) | 108507 | 1673 | 1305.57 | 3841.00 | 131.77 | -2535.43 | 294.200 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 5937 | 0 (0.00000) | 5404 | 533 | 99.56 | 0.08 | 20.92 | 99.48 | 0.088 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8233 | 1 (0.00013) | 7777 | 455 | 126.54 | 160.05 | 12.84 | -33.51 | 126.485 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 14243 | 5 (0.00036) | 13762 | 476 | 285.50 | 432.28 | 10.09 | -146.77 | 151.407 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 15375 | 1 (0.00007) | 14929 | 445 | 533.02 | 5.24 | 22.07 | 527.77 | 0.984 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 21602 | 9 (0.00042) | 21183 | 410 | 1248.65 | 1397.11 | 1.43 | -148.45 | 111.890 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 24145 | 31 (0.00131) | 23636 | 478 | 1794.13 | 1460.59 | 55.84 | 333.54 | 81.409 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 20046 | 38 (0.00194) | 19543 | 465 | 2354.11 | 1562.76 | 48.41 | 791.35 | 66.384 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25192 | 110 (0.00444) | 24692 | 390 | 5886.74 | 8645.57 | 13.21 | -2758.83 | 146.865 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 35858 | 291 (0.00828) | 34859 | 708 | 8128.91 | 6662.75 | 10.06 | 1466.15 | 81.964 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 125137 | 1896 (0.01522) | 122707 | 534 | 39200.90 | 33785.56 | 2.09 | 5415.33 | 86.186 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 24970 | 576 (0.02341) | 24034 | 360 | 7739.18 | 8553.61 | 15.10 | -814.42 | 110.523 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 79194 | 2441 (0.03098) | 76353 | 400 | 39262.82 | 35106.45 | 9.37 | 4156.36 | 89.414 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29232 | 1332 (0.04628) | 27449 | 451 | 9485.18 | 10079.67 | 25.25 | -594.49 | 106.268 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35256 | 2160 (0.06197) | 32697 | 399 | 7670.72 | 7473.69 | 31.37 | 197.03 | 97.431 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 48585 | 4438 (0.09223) | 43682 | 465 | 16399.66 | 18160.22 | 7.38 | -1760.56 | 110.735 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 189846 | 23235 (0.12273) | 166087 | 524 | 93740.93 | 92616.30 | 100.54 | 1124.62 | 98.800 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 99451 | 18131 (0.18334) | 80760 | 560 | 173014.44 | 174658.21 | 3314.97 | -1643.76 | 100.950 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 256789 | 62567 (0.24420) | 193645 | 577 | 369530.04 | 355623.62 | 2322.49 | 13906.42 | 96.237 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 255507 | 93808 (0.36801) | 161100 | 599 | 585872.15 | 577761.98 | 1013.27 | 8110.17 | 98.616 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1143042 | 556956 (0.48798) | 584394 | 1692 | 891965.09 | 874236.09 | 2925.10 | 17729.00 | 98.012 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 629412 | 313871 (0.49962) | 314349 | 1192 | 669772.47 | 653620.82 | 6521.42 | 16151.64 | 97.588 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 355279 | 260626 (0.73499) | 93974 | 679 | 303671.86 | 296133.80 | 5455.44 | 7538.06 | 97.518 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 78949 | 62280 (0.79433) | 16126 | 543 | 62850.11 | 61470.72 | 1187.65 | 1379.39 | 97.805 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 69212 | 58845 (0.85762) | 9769 | 598 | 79188.46 | 78531.68 | 400.64 | 656.78 | 99.171 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 105817 | 96431 (0.91636) | 8802 | 584 | 72827.72 | 71787.47 | 0.64 | 1040.24 | 98.572 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 18009 | 16486 (0.97985) | 339 | 1184 | 24390.61 | 23976.73 | 240.31 | 413.87 | 98.303 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3706802 | 1523072 | 2166648 | 17082 | 794699.72 | 781516.86 | 271.10 | 13182.86 | 98.341 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 117699 | 53496 | 63911 | 292 | 2673645.48 | 2616227.30 | 23628.70 | 57418.17 | 97.852 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3824501 | 1576568 | 2230559 | 17374 | 3468345.20 | 3397744.17 | 23899.80 | 70601.03 | 97.964 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 70601.03354344 BTC (2.036%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3028.18497500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 67572.84856844 BTC (1.948%) Pending Liabilities: -66.36128580 BTC Final SD Profit: 67639.20985424 BTC (1.950%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 12022000 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7029613 (58.5%) Blockchain MB: 5181.5 : SatoshiDice MB: 2895.0 (55.9%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiMFteFQ.png&t=665&c=LQEcXg_8GGiT1A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQw4njoW.png&t=665&c=Hu5-YPvS4LKDbQ)
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March 25, 2013, 02:41:18 AM |
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Dooglas, can you increase the line thickness on your charts. My colorblind eyes have trouble.
If dooglus can set the colours by the hex colour code, any of the following colours can be used in one chart and still be easily differentiable by someone with colour blindness, regardless of the type of colour blindness one has: "#999999", "#E69F00", "#56B4E9", "#009E73", "#F0E442", "#0072B2", "#D55E00", "#CC79A7" This is a really interesting subject, and more can be read about it here: http://jfly.iam.u-tokyo.ac.jp/color/
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March 25, 2013, 04:51:39 AM |
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If dooglus can set the colours by the hex colour code, any of the following colours can be used in one chart and still be easily differentiable by someone with colour blindness, regardless of the type of colour blindness one has:
He tells me the issue is to do with the thickness of the lines in the key. But I'll try the colours you suggest.
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March 25, 2013, 05:10:54 AM |
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Here's a special bonus edition free sample post to try out the new colour scheme: Total of 39 bets unaccounted for.
Results: 2013-Mar-24 10:09pm (up to block 227915)
Address Target Should Win | #Bets | Win | Lose | Refunds | BTC In | BTC Out | Refund | Profit | RTP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1dice1e6p 1 0.00002 | 110443 | 3 (0.00003) | 108762 | 1678 | 1313.41 | 3841.04 | 131.89 | -2527.63 | 292.447 1dice1Qf4 2 0.00003 | 5969 | 0 (0.00000) | 5436 | 533 | 100.41 | 0.09 | 20.92 | 100.32 | 0.091 1dice2pxm 4 0.00006 | 8319 | 1 (0.00013) | 7863 | 455 | 128.15 | 160.06 | 12.84 | -31.90 | 124.897 1dice2vQo 8 0.00012 | 14330 | 5 (0.00036) | 13848 | 477 | 286.48 | 432.28 | 10.09 | -145.80 | 150.896 1dice2WmR 16 0.00024 | 15414 | 1 (0.00007) | 14968 | 445 | 534.12 | 5.24 | 22.07 | 528.87 | 0.983 1dice2xkj 32 0.00049 | 21642 | 9 (0.00042) | 21223 | 410 | 1249.92 | 1397.12 | 1.43 | -147.19 | 111.776 1dice2zdo 64 0.00098 | 24210 | 31 (0.00131) | 23700 | 479 | 1794.90 | 1460.59 | 55.85 | 334.30 | 81.375 1dice37Ee 128 0.00195 | 20084 | 38 (0.00194) | 19581 | 465 | 2354.61 | 1562.76 | 48.41 | 791.84 | 66.371 1dice3jkp 256 0.00391 | 25260 | 110 (0.00442) | 24758 | 392 | 5887.46 | 8645.58 | 13.22 | -2758.12 | 146.847 1dice4J1m 512 0.00781 | 35924 | 291 (0.00826) | 34925 | 708 | 8130.08 | 6662.76 | 10.06 | 1467.32 | 81.952 1dice5wwE 1000 0.01526 | 125364 | 1901 (0.01523) | 122927 | 536 | 39205.88 | 33788.81 | 2.10 | 5417.07 | 86.183 1dice61SN 1500 0.02289 | 24997 | 576 (0.02338) | 24061 | 360 | 7739.58 | 8553.61 | 15.10 | -814.02 | 110.518 1dice6DPt 2000 0.03052 | 79528 | 2454 (0.03101) | 76674 | 400 | 39268.04 | 35114.05 | 9.37 | 4153.99 | 89.421 1dice6gJg 3000 0.04578 | 29321 | 1334 (0.04621) | 27536 | 451 | 9486.38 | 10080.15 | 25.25 | -593.77 | 106.259 1dice6GV5 4000 0.06104 | 35327 | 2164 (0.06196) | 32764 | 399 | 7672.46 | 7474.47 | 31.37 | 197.98 | 97.419 1dice6wBx 6000 0.09155 | 48652 | 4443 (0.09221) | 43741 | 468 | 16401.51 | 18162.79 | 7.39 | -1761.27 | 110.739 1dice6YgE 8000 0.12207 | 190145 | 23266 (0.12270) | 166352 | 527 | 93751.11 | 92621.57 | 100.56 | 1129.54 | 98.795 1dice7EYz 12000 0.18311 | 99697 | 18171 (0.18329) | 80965 | 561 | 173030.92 | 174669.79 | 3314.98 | -1638.86 | 100.947 1dice7fUk 16000 0.24414 | 257393 | 62708 (0.24418) | 194107 | 578 | 369659.94 | 355690.71 | 2322.50 | 13969.22 | 96.221 1dice7W2A 24000 0.36621 | 255884 | 93952 (0.36803) | 161333 | 599 | 585920.71 | 577798.90 | 1013.27 | 8121.81 | 98.614 1dice8EMZ 32000 0.48828 | 1143944 | 557392 (0.48798) | 584859 | 1693 | 892418.28 | 874643.48 | 2925.10 | 17774.80 | 98.008 1dice97EC 32768 0.50000 | 630514 | 314441 (0.49965) | 314876 | 1197 | 670263.50 | 654220.79 | 6521.45 | 16042.70 | 97.607 1dice9wcM 48000 0.73242 | 355777 | 260998 (0.73501) | 94098 | 681 | 303934.41 | 296438.11 | 5455.44 | 7496.29 | 97.534 1dicec9k7 52000 0.79346 | 79199 | 62473 (0.79427) | 16182 | 544 | 62924.27 | 61546.54 | 1187.65 | 1377.72 | 97.810 1dicegEAr 56000 0.85449 | 69511 | 59102 (0.85767) | 9808 | 601 | 79404.10 | 78633.47 | 400.65 | 770.62 | 99.029 1diceDCd2 60000 0.91553 | 106355 | 96923 (0.91636) | 8846 | 586 | 72923.89 | 71881.06 | 0.64 | 1042.83 | 98.570 1dice9wVt 64000 0.97656 | 18049 | 16513 (0.97971) | 342 | 1194 | 24412.79 | 23998.64 | 240.33 | 414.15 | 98.304 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- small (bets < 4 BTC) | 3713471 | 1525764 | 2170582 | 17125 | 795540.18 | 782289.47 | 271.38 | 13250.71 | 98.334 big (bets >= 4 BTC) | 117781 | 53536 | 63953 | 292 | 2674657.25 | 2617195.12 | 23628.70 | 57462.13 | 97.852 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | 3831252 | 1579300 | 2234535 | 17417 | 3470197.44 | 3399484.59 | 23900.08 | 70712.85 | 97.962 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SD Profit before fees: 70712.85135126 BTC (2.038%) Cumulative Fees Paid: 3035.26157500 BTC SD Profit after fees: 67677.58977626 BTC (1.950%) Pending Liabilities: -65.74254550 BTC Final SD Profit: 67743.33232176 BTC (1.952%) ---- Since Satoshi Dice started, there have been: Blockchain Tx: 12047239 : SatoshiDice Tx: 7041915 (58.5%) Blockchain MB: 5193.1 : SatoshiDice MB: 2900.0 (55.8%) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FstR1WbP.png&t=665&c=lZ3YafldHbQfKw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOC3DNTM.png&t=665&c=XM9iU4MEg0cOyQ)
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organofcorti
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March 25, 2013, 05:17:31 AM |
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Yucko! I'm sorry about that. Also, I think grey is not good on that background.
Try this subset of colours substituting black for gray:
(black, green, blue, red)
("#000000", "#009E73", "#0072B2", "#D55E00")
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