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Author Topic: [UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative  (Read 433436 times)
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November 03, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
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I'm waiting for an explanation !?

Few can understand what you're talking about, but I think I get it though.  If you're talking about your Bittrex account on the block explorer, those are Bittrex's coins, not yours.  If someone else makes a withdrawal, Bittrex withdraws the coins from any account they control to their withdrawal address.  If you make a withdrawal, they will withdraw someone else's coins to your withdrawal address.  They don't keep customer funds in the same address deposited.  None of the big exchanges work that way.
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November 03, 2015, 03:33:03 PM
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Finally....  looks like the downward slope has leveled off again.




not so bad,next one will be hugeee Smiley Just need a small up on BTC prices
patience is a vertue

will price go to 5k sat?
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November 03, 2015, 04:45:04 PM
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If bitcoin hits a thousand dollars each on this run than probably..  don't expect to be able to buy any quantity at that price though...

Most day traders are already switched over to BTC already.

If your not actively using the technology behind your crypto investment,

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November 03, 2015, 05:25:47 PM
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If I wanted to buy some I would wait until (if) it actually starts to rise. Otherwise you can find yourself having paid tenfold or even more for this investment.
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November 03, 2015, 05:52:48 PM
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how is vnl at 9k what is even going on

It's above 10k. Do you expect it to stay relative as Bitcoin goes through 300? Of course not. The market is doing it's thing. It will be boring until BTC crashes, which should not be long off. People gotta cash out for the holidays to buy Lego Star Wars. Cool

Thank you for your support.

And if bitcoin goes to 600-800-1000 $
This is inconsistent with reality. Bitcoin is a miners market, meaning it is worth what it cost to mine. Periodically we have these pumps and always have. The miners are waiting to dump and when they do it's back to ~200 where electricity cost to bitcoin output ratio is normalised. I highly doubt BTC will be over 400 even in 365 days from now unless the mining hardware situation changes. Cool

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November 03, 2015, 06:00:17 PM
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how is vnl at 9k what is even going on

It's above 10k. Do you expect it to stay relative as Bitcoin goes through 300? Of course not. The market is doing it's thing. It will be boring until BTC crashes, which should not be long off. People gotta cash out for the holidays to buy Lego Star Wars. Cool

Thank you for your support.

And if bitcoin goes to 600-800-1000 $
This is inconsistent with reality. Bitcoin is a miners market, meaning it is worth what it cost to mine. Periodically we have these pumps and always have. The miners are waiting to dump and when they do it's back to ~200 where electricity cost to bitcoin output ratio is normalised. I highly doubt BTC will be over 400 even in 365 days from now unless the mining hardware situation changes. Cool

Thank you for your support.

What now any prediction about btc price? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Should just stop trying to predict the unpredictable  and work on what could bring vnl on higher level

BTC can be 1000 next month,so better finish dark++ in time  Cheesy
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November 03, 2015, 06:12:03 PM
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how is vnl at 9k what is even going on

It's above 10k. Do you expect it to stay relative as Bitcoin goes through 300? Of course not. The market is doing it's thing. It will be boring until BTC crashes, which should not be long off. People gotta cash out for the holidays to buy Lego Star Wars. Cool

Thank you for your support.

And if bitcoin goes to 600-800-1000 $
This is inconsistent with reality. Bitcoin is a miners market, meaning it is worth what it cost to mine. Periodically we have these pumps and always have. The miners are waiting to dump and when they do it's back to ~200 where electricity cost to bitcoin output ratio is normalised. I highly doubt BTC will be over 400 even in 365 days from now unless the mining hardware situation changes. Cool

Thank you for your support.

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November 03, 2015, 09:19:17 PM
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Dirt cheap vanilla right now so tasty

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November 03, 2015, 11:57:03 PM
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Finally....  looks like the downward slope has leveled off again.




not so bad,next one will be hugeee Smiley Just need a small up on BTC prices
patience is a vertue

will price go to 5k sat?

I will be in buy mode if we see those prices

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November 04, 2015, 12:46:07 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

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November 04, 2015, 01:18:30 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

Yep, you are right, Pablo.

VNL is a direct blatant clone of DASH, thats why it takes only 1 confirmation on Poloniex and DASH takes 12. Also, if you compare DASH and VNL wallet's GUI you will find, that they are identical.

Have a good day.

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November 04, 2015, 01:50:19 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

The code is entirely different.  John spent six months researching and a year writing the code just for the barebones part of the coin before the launch on December 23, 2014.

As LovSan said, VNL requires 1 confirmation on Poloniex and Dash requires 12.  You can check that here: https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnCurrencies
If you search for minconf":1," you'll see BTC and VNL are the only coins that require 1 confirmation on Poloniex.

Vanillacoin has a global transaction pool that is far more synchronized than Bitcoin's and Dash's.  This makes double spending far more difficult and basically impossible after 1 confirmation even without Zerotime.  Read this post by John: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977245.msg11579434#msg11579434

Vanillacoin has staking mobile wallets that allow you to move your wallet.dat to your PC from your Android and iOS clients.  Dash does not.

Vanillacoin automatically burns all tx fees, and they're not sent to a burn address either.  Dash does not.

Vanillacoin has encrypted connections and gives you a random port if you have no config.dat.  All your ISP will see is normal SSL traffic while monitoring your ports, which is unlike what happens with all other coins.  If you're using Dash and your ISP monitors your ports, it will know you're using port 29081, which means it will know you're using Dash.

With Vanillacoin, any client with an open TCP port, a certain amount of uptime, and maybe a certain amount of bandwidth, can be a super peer.  In order to receive node incentives you have to have 10000 VNL sent to the default address of the wallet in 1 transaction.  Masternodes work somewhat differently and you need to have 1000 DASH to be a masternode.

Vanillacoin connects clients over both TCP and UDP transport layers.  I believe Dash clients are only connected via TCP.

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November 04, 2015, 02:32:57 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

Yep, you are right, Pablo.

VNL is a direct blatant clone of DASH, thats why it takes only 1 confirmation on Poloniex and DASH takes 12. Also, if you compare DASH and VNL wallet's GUI you will find, that they are identical.

Have a good day.

No need to be hostile or sarcastic to the guy. If he is new to VNL, that is a legitimate question. He didn't seem to be trolling.

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November 04, 2015, 02:42:34 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

Yep, you are right, Pablo.

VNL is a direct blatant clone of DASH, thats why it takes only 1 confirmation on Poloniex and DASH takes 12. Also, if you compare DASH and VNL wallet's GUI you will find, that they are identical.

Have a good day.

No need to be hostile or sarcastic to the guy. If he is new to VNL, that is a legitimate question. He didn't seem to be trolling.

Dude yes that bastard is trolling. 5 mins on the OP tells me it's not the same as dash lol afaict... can't spend 5 mins reading? Big fucking shot investor - MY ASS!
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.
They use entirely different code bases. You should do your own research before investing into ANY crypto-currency. Asking around will only get you conflicting answers and little fact. Cool

Thank you for your support.

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November 04, 2015, 02:47:02 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

Yep, you are right, Pablo.

VNL is a direct blatant clone of DASH, thats why it takes only 1 confirmation on Poloniex and DASH takes 12. Also, if you compare DASH and VNL wallet's GUI you will find, that they are identical.

Have a good day.

No need to be hostile or sarcastic to the guy. If he is new to VNL, that is a legitimate question. He didn't seem to be trolling.

Dude yes that bastard is trolling. 5 mins on the OP tells me it's not the same as dash lol afaict... can't spend 5 mins reading? Big fucking shot investor - MY ASS!

This is definitely how you want to bring new people into VNL.  Good luck with that piss poor attitude towards people.

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November 04, 2015, 02:50:07 AM
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If I wanted to buy some I would wait until (if) it actually starts to rise. Otherwise you can find yourself having paid tenfold or even more for this investment.
The trick is to buy before a rise, for instance right now. Buying into pumps is a losing position. Cool

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November 04, 2015, 02:52:44 AM
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Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

Yep, you are right, Pablo.

VNL is a direct blatant clone of DASH, thats why it takes only 1 confirmation on Poloniex and DASH takes 12. Also, if you compare DASH and VNL wallet's GUI you will find, that they are identical.

Have a good day.
This is being sarcastic. Cool

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Dog forget vnl's ability to make instant resend able transactions without the evils of a centralized master node system...  just like dash

If your not actively using the technology behind your crypto investment,

IT IS A SCAM!!!!
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 #4600

Potential Investor here:

Could someone please give me some more info as to how VNL is different from Dash? Seems like a Dash clone afaict.

Appreciate any feedback/guidance you guys can give me.

Pablo.

It's the first and only currency to achieve zero time transactions and without the use of masternodes.
The code was audited by poloniex and is the only altcoin that is accepted with only one confirmation by that exchange
VNL is not a fork of btc, has a lot of work in developing its code proving the commitment of the dev with the project.
Vanilla code is like a jewel being polished unlike the dash code which looks like a patchwork quilt made with garbage bags
I hate the name vanilla but he promised that will change it at the right time  Grin
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