a textbook example of the failure of pure democracy In a pure democracy, I expect each adult to have one vote. On the forum, voting power depends on earned Merits, so it can't be a pure democracy. I disagree, it is even worse. All that is, is another layer of democracy and enables even more nepotism. Merits are ironically do not support a meritocracy, but are more often used as pats on the head for people that agree with their positions, and an additional method of gatekeeping. |
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 Testimonium Libertatem Iustitia It is well known that this forum is divided up into several cliques. Unfortunately this is a direct result of a tendency towards mob rule, and a system of might makes right that strips the individual of the ability to use this forum in peace free from harassment, threats, and intimidation. The forum trust system has become an unmitigated disaster, a textbook example of the failure of pure democracy, also known as mob rule. The failure of the management of these forum systems have allowed for the worst types of personalities to maintain an iron grip over the control of these systems, and entrench a culture of nepotism, retaliation, and constant infighting which is antithetical to the user base being able to exercise their free use of the forum, free speech, and free trade that it offers. The members of this mob rely on maintaining arbitrary unwritten rules in order to maintain a system of selective enforcement that enables them to stifle criticism, competition, and functions as a gate keeping mechanism under which none shall pass until the knee is bent and tribute is paid. The status quo is antithetical to everything Bitcoin was built to resist, and stands the original culture of this community on its head, making a total mockery of it. These reasons are why, today I introduce to you, The Objective Standards Guild. Core tenets:1. A standard of evidence of theft, violation of contractual agreement, or violation of applicable laws shall be documented in an objective and observable way before negative rating or flagging users. 2. Accusations without some form of documentation should be minimal. 3. Users who regularly and repeatedly ignore these standards should be excluded from trust lists. 4. Users who follow these standards should be included in trust lists. 5. Users who are subjected to accusations and ratings without any form of documentation should be defended and supported as much as possible. There is no inherent hierarchy. Anyone is free to call themselves a member of The Objective Standards Guild as long as they follow its tenets. Using the avatar below and linking to this thread in your signature is encouraged. Lets work together to bring a balance of power to this forum and check its culture of rampant and systemic abuse. Feel free to suggest your own inclusions and exclusions based on these standards. SUGGESTED INCLUSIONS:qwk monkeynuts Ticked figmentofmyass BayAreaCoins Lesbian Cow Rmcdermott927 teeGUMES bill gator LoyceV eddie13 hacker1001101001 DdmrDdmr iCEBREAKER
SUGGESTED EXCLUSIONS:~smoothie ~BitcoinEXpress ~Vod ~Foxpup ~ibminer ~TMAN ~Lauda ~Timelord2067 ~TheNewAnon135246 ~mindrust ~cryptodevil ~suchmoon ~owlcatz ~nutildah ~tmfp ~yahoo62278 ~Last of the V8s ~Lutpin ~TwitchySeal ~bob123 ~marlboroza ~blurryeyed ~nullius ~JollyGood ~mosprognoz ~DireWolfM14 EDIT YOUR TRUST LIST HEREEDIT: one of the primary purposes of this thread (IMO) is to say that the rest of the forum can have a vote too: you only need 10 earned merits and then you can participate and affect the default trust system by "voting" for objective/fair members and against biased/unfair members.even people who have been wronged by DT trust abuse can help to remove their abusers from DT. one of the crucial elements is that you must include members as well since a member's trust list must include 10+ users before they can be on DT1. so people need to do more than just exclude abusers and hope DT1 members do the same---they need to build bigger trust networks (with inclusions) so they can actually affect the DT1 lottery or be voted in themselves.this is a numbers game. if everyone keeps refusing to customize their trust list, then nothing will change. the same people will keep voting themselves onto DT1 and perpetuating the current system. Vires In Numeris.i also appreciate that TECSHARE has provided some reasonable cover for people who want to include/exclude people in the OP. on this forum, some DT members have been known to use their position to publicly/privately pressure other members into changing their trust lists. this culture of intimidation (combined with fear of DT retaliation) stifles honest usage of the trust system. perhaps OSG could allow us to create somewhat of a "united front", which DT abusers tend to enjoy, but which the abused never have the privilege of. |
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Tricycle is for clown car gang leader only.
I know I will regret asking but who's the leader? Clown who drives tricycle, of course. I am just regular clown car gang member, they don't tell me anything...   Well, in order to join the car clown gang, you need to lie in wait in a gutter until someone makes a post that is not to your liking. Then you must strike by painting them red and having them for lunch.
No, that is what mob gang is doing (OP didn't mention that gang for obvious reason). Clown car gang jumps on the bandwagon with other clowns. Come now marlboroza, show the whole rating. It almost seems like you would prefer no one looked too close so you can play this all off as totally a no joke with no substance. Click for reference. |
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~deflection~
I take it you won't be answering the question? .. Your biased nature in the situation is showing teeGUMES. I'm surprised someone so animate about being against deception wouldn't be saying *anything* to OgNasty? So again, do you believe the way OgNasty portrayed the chopped-up PMs in the OP of this thread is accurate and truthful? It is quite clear to me what happened here, because I've actually been reading and comprehending since day 1 (well before this thread), but I'd rather not instigate more hate and drama -- like you're doing. Look at him trying real hard to be a little mini Vod with his refractory gibberish. These clearly are the ones we need in leadership positions in this community. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-rE03PGQfA |
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a white guy attacks a black guy? so what, could be nonracist issues. its time to shut down crazy angolo media. The "so what" is the left has a serious violence problem. |
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Separation of powers. Checks and balances. Executive, legislative, judicial.
POTUS: "I'm actually, I guess, the chief law enforcement officer of the country"
FFS. Half-wit or dictator? Or both?
The USA is a republic with all of those things. He is in fact the chief law enforcement officer of the country as the head of the executive branch. I would say you are the halfwit. |
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~asinine ranting~
So should we assume you believe the way OgNasty portrayed the chopped-up PMs in the OP of this thread is accurate and truthful? Vod's own direct speech here makes his intent to extort OGNasty self evident. PM's aren't needed. |
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Barely able to go another week without getting his rocks off using this community as a toy to masturbate his ego, Vod is at it again, now resorting to attempting to openly extort users in to apologizing. I thought federal crimes were not allowed here. I guess it is like the rule on doxing, or any other rule around here. Zero tolerance, unless you are Vod, then you are free to violate the same rules over and over again because poor him hes just so sad and pathetic we have to let him continue abusing everyone. An apology makes these alleged sex crimes against children go away Vod? If your research and allegations are true then you go to the fucking authorities. You don't ask for an apology and say you'll let it slide this one time. Children are not to be fucked with. ANYWHERE ANYTIME.
I 100% agree!! OG claims I am a pedophile. He won't act on it, even though he knows my name and where I live.I'm asking for an apology from OG for calling me a pedophile, or asking him to call the police, or I will defend myself. You do not fuck with children and use them as a political tool. Edit: If Vod has substantial evidence that OgN is a pedophile, he should substantiate it, or not make the claim. If there is some reason why he cannot post the evidence he has, he can go to the police where OgN lives. He really should just go to the police so they can investigate if there is any actual evidence.
Did you mistype those two names by accident? If OG won't apologize for calling me a pedophile, and will not go to the police, than the pressure will escape another way. Like teeGEE says, you don't fuck with children. |
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I agree, this changing of the values of bids is not at all appropriate. Frankly neither is your editing of the OP or making this a self moderated thread. Instead of selling to a legitimate bidder who wants your product, you fraudulently try to change another users bid in the hope you can force them to pay more than they actually bid with your little semantic game. All this combined makes me not trust your word whatsoever and makes me regret bidding on this.
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I have only asked if there are any special needs, is this wrong?
You didn't just ask, you said that you actually started posting on certain boards, presumably to improve your chances to get accepted into the campaign. Are they posting there because they like it? Of course not? Are they signature spammers? In my opinion, only if their posts are spam and any other reasons shouldn't be important for a moderator.
I can quote here multiple comments from members who are complaining that they have to write in some special sections only because of the signature, why nobody targets them?
I don't know what else I can tell you other than "agree to disagree". If you don't see anything wrong with this then I don't think I have any arguments to affect your opinion. You don't get it. Suchmoon is the gatekeeper who determines who can post in what subforums, who can add people to their trust lists, and who can abuse the trust system freely. Kneel before them or they will call their clown car friends. You have a nice account there, it would be a shame if some one were to give you a bunch of frivolous negative ratings. |
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This list is in error. All above are riders of the clown car. Vod isn't a clown tho, he is a sad children's party magician that gets mad when you say he can't really pull quarters from his ears. As for Direwolf, he was granted his clown nose last summer.
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Final comment on this subject here on the forum.
Is there any chance of the others involved here doing the same? Nothing will ever be resolved, no bridges built nor any good faith established by continuing this demeaning and destructive to and fro of accusations of the worst kind. Just stop now, please. It is rather convenient for Vod that everyone just lets it all go AFTER he gets to keep his little obsessive compulsive trophy of shitting up my trust page with unsubstantiated accusations isn't it? It amazes me how retarded the default trust is here that they still support this psychotic and abusive individual who continues to dox, threaten, and attempt to ruin peoples lives off the forum. Oh, but the real travesty is people are bickering right? |
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That means VOD has a line of peoples to send apologies to.
Oh you bet I do. In each of those cases, once I was able to show the accuser how they were parroting garbage and I could too, they discontinued with their accusations. If they post here for an apology, like I am, I will give it to them. No matter how long the line. Does that also apply to OG? If one of you has evidence the other is a pedophile, you should contact the police. If either of you wants to continue alleging the other is a pedophile, you should substantiate it with evidence posted publicly so it can be scrutinized.
Lead by example. Don't say something when you did the opposite for years. I would like an apology for you calling me a pedophile Vod. |
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I have to ask, if the posts aren't garbage and contain anything even moderately useful or entertaining, then what does the motivation matter? |
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An apology makes these alleged sex crimes against children go away Vod? If your research and allegations are true then you go to the fucking authorities. You don't ask for an apology and say you'll let it slide this one time. Children are not to be fucked with. ANYWHERE ANYTIME.
I 100% agree!! OG claims I am a pedophile. He won't act on it, even though he knows my name and where I live. I'm asking for an apology from OG for calling me a pedophile, or asking him to call the police, or I will defend myself. You do not fuck with children and use them as a political tool. You mean just like you have absolutely been proven to do all over this thread Vod? FYI, you are literally extorting him right now according to the law Vod. Perhaps you need a visit from the RMCP. Archiving this page in case OGNasty wishes to press charges on you for extortion. |
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