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1701  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 09, 2014, 05:48:52 PM

Barabbas: The people behind BRO are probably too nice to tell you this it, so I'll just say it: "If this ICO is not your cup of tea, then go invest somewhere else!"

Good luck finding anything better...



And why is it you feel the need to interpret the thoughts of ALL "The people behind BRO"? Don't you realize how incredibly stupid you make yourself look?
Amazing. Really amazing...

IconicExpert, why dont you just focus on your stupid Bytecent scamcoin instead?

Your future bagholders would sure appreciate it!  Wink

btw for those that dont know, Barabbas is IconicExpert: https://twitter.com/IconicExpert

The same guy who scammed the BlackCoin community for thousands of dollars.

The same guy who responded to the PinkCoin dev under his 'Barabbas' account by accident. And swiftly deleted it.

At this point only individuals affected by profound mental retardation and imbeciles actually choose to believe such idiocy.

But you fit the bill nicely.

Just for the record, "Barabbas" is my ONLY handle on BTCT. And I have never, ever deleted any posts. Ever.
1702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 09, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
For any doubters whatsoever, I have 3 suggestions:

1. is to ask you the man himself. I am certain he will have a straight forward and concise answer covering all of the points you bring up.

2. Or maybe contact the CoinsSource POD service that signed off on him. Weren't they already paid to do something in regards to looking into the dev? Or does five stars come from sending them an id and a payment. Hell, they even said that Dan was a reputable businessman. That statement can't be made without some research right?

if all else fails

3. or call the toll free Lien Unit phone number provided on the form. I am certain if you explain the situation fully to them, that someone is claiming Dan Metcalf who is currently in control of ~600btc and possibly ~250btc more shortly from a coin ito is the same as a lien you saw. Give them the lien serial number and information on the form. I am certain they will clear it right up.

I am certain and without a shadow of a doubt that they are one and the same. I could provide that info and without doxxing. But continually being chastised for clearly doing the right thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Mind you I did this for free as well with no dog in the fight. It weighed on me heavily and seeing more and more people sucked in to the quagmire of filth and deceit all with the change for it to vaporize at any second made up my mind. I could have sat back and said nothing and regretted the rest of my life. Or I could have sat back and secretly used to info to my advantage or called it in myself. Instead I gave it to the community and now I wish I had earlier. I tried to warn everyone multiple times and hinted at this for some time just hoping someone would figure it out all by themselves. Like I've alluded to before, thousand of people invested in this coin and thousands in xc and not one figured this simple thing out. This all should have been brought to light before blocknet was even a whishper instead look at what you have done. Do not shift blame, hate or negativity at me. You are the ones responsible for this mess. You were horrible stewards for your community.

A simple thank you was all that was necessary.

I do this type of research and plenty that is much more involved on a daily basis. If you are unable to figure it out and/or put eyes on it yourself with the single document I provided then I really am not going to hold your hand to baby step you through it. This is like someone providing a free mac wallet for a coin and you expecting they teach you how to build it. You might be surprised to find out, that research involves more than googling something. I am guessing you could find a copy of that document at least in 2 or 3 locations

If you want to send me 3btc to work on this a couple of more days and put together a report then do it. If you think that is high, to bad. That is about a rough after tax rate including hotel and food that I could make doing it otherwise. If you want me to teach you how I research I usually charge a student the first month of their pay so ~15-22btc, but I rarely take on a student.

If you want to continue to doubt the authenticity of the document then find an escrow and put up some btc.

So you have the proof, but don't want to provide it, and you say you did this research for free, yet now want 3 BTC to prepare a report.

Hmm. How about this, just show the proof that the tax document is connected to the XC dev, and we won't need your report. You save time, I save BTC, and you stop the whole scam in it's tracks, thereby doing the community a service which you so righteously proclaim is your goal. Because here's how it goes otherwise:

1: We ask Dan, he say's "No, that's not me"

2: We ask CoinsSource, they say "Actually, we contacted the dev and are awaiting verification. Currently no PoD stars have been awarded. Our article is based on an informal interview in IRC."

3: We contact the tax department and tell them we've found a guy called Dan Metcalf, who may, or may not be the same guy they're looking for, and that our guy is a coin dev who has got some bitcoins. We could say "Would you mind going and arresting your Dan Metcalf for us so we can see if it's the right guy? We're not quite sure you see, because there's more than one Daniel R Metcalf in Marshfield, and the guy who gave me the tax information removed the address and doesn't want show me how it's connected to the coin dev. Oh, one more thing, we have no reason to suspect that our guy has done anything illegal, we just want to make sure he's not the guy you're looking for."

The condescending tone of your reply to my simple request for proof of the connection smacks of someone who has no proof, instead you attempt to deflect the issue citing your hurt pride as the reason you provide none.

Has Dan actually denied being this guy?

Then obviously he is not this guy either, right?: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=42275474&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=Mj7i&locale=en_US&trk=tyah&trkInfo=tarId%3A1415552014018%2Ctas%3Adan%20metcalf%2Cidx%3A1-1-1

I'd like to see a link to his "denial". Maybe he denied it when he was "frustrated"... he tends to do that often.

Firstly, I don't know if he has denied the tax lien or not. Why would he when there has been no connection shown? The address on the document has been redacted, and there are 6 Daniel R Metcalf's in Marshfield alone.

Secondly, that is atcsecures LinkedIn profile. Common knowledge for months.

Do you deny you are IconicExpert?

Firstly, didn't you posted just above that Dan had denied being the same person in the documents? I am confused...

Secondly, I don't know if it has been posted or not, if it has, it has. That is indeed the infamous Dan Metcalf and, according to the documents, he's the same individual.

Thirdly: I believe IconicExpert is quite busy with his own coin project about to launch, tomorrow I think. At this point only people affected by profound retardation -or very unethical agendas-, choose to believe that lie that has been denied and demonstrated for months... and in frustration or not, the only, evident, repeated, obvious answer is NO, I am not. But you are more than welcome to believe anything you want... although I personally identify myself much more with Batman...
1703  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dear synechist, xc, blocknet, and dan metcalf on: November 09, 2014, 05:27:01 PM
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
1704  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 09, 2014, 05:10:03 PM

Barabbas: The people behind BRO are probably too nice to tell you this it, so I'll just say it: "If this ICO is not your cup of tea, then go invest somewhere else!"

Good luck finding anything better...



And why is it you feel the need to interpret the thoughts of ALL "The people behind BRO"? Don't you realize how incredibly stupid you make yourself look?
Amazing. Really amazing...
1705  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 09, 2014, 05:02:21 PM
For any doubters whatsoever, I have 3 suggestions:

1. is to ask you the man himself. I am certain he will have a straight forward and concise answer covering all of the points you bring up.

2. Or maybe contact the CoinsSource POD service that signed off on him. Weren't they already paid to do something in regards to looking into the dev? Or does five stars come from sending them an id and a payment. Hell, they even said that Dan was a reputable businessman. That statement can't be made without some research right?

if all else fails

3. or call the toll free Lien Unit phone number provided on the form. I am certain if you explain the situation fully to them, that someone is claiming Dan Metcalf who is currently in control of ~600btc and possibly ~250btc more shortly from a coin ito is the same as a lien you saw. Give them the lien serial number and information on the form. I am certain they will clear it right up.

I am certain and without a shadow of a doubt that they are one and the same. I could provide that info and without doxxing. But continually being chastised for clearly doing the right thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Mind you I did this for free as well with no dog in the fight. It weighed on me heavily and seeing more and more people sucked in to the quagmire of filth and deceit all with the change for it to vaporize at any second made up my mind. I could have sat back and said nothing and regretted the rest of my life. Or I could have sat back and secretly used to info to my advantage or called it in myself. Instead I gave it to the community and now I wish I had earlier. I tried to warn everyone multiple times and hinted at this for some time just hoping someone would figure it out all by themselves. Like I've alluded to before, thousand of people invested in this coin and thousands in xc and not one figured this simple thing out. This all should have been brought to light before blocknet was even a whishper instead look at what you have done. Do not shift blame, hate or negativity at me. You are the ones responsible for this mess. You were horrible stewards for your community.

A simple thank you was all that was necessary.

I do this type of research and plenty that is much more involved on a daily basis. If you are unable to figure it out and/or put eyes on it yourself with the single document I provided then I really am not going to hold your hand to baby step you through it. This is like someone providing a free mac wallet for a coin and you expecting they teach you how to build it. You might be surprised to find out, that research involves more than googling something. I am guessing you could find a copy of that document at least in 2 or 3 locations

If you want to send me 3btc to work on this a couple of more days and put together a report then do it. If you think that is high, to bad. That is about a rough after tax rate including hotel and food that I could make doing it otherwise. If you want me to teach you how I research I usually charge a student the first month of their pay so ~15-22btc, but I rarely take on a student.

If you want to continue to doubt the authenticity of the document then find an escrow and put up some btc.

So you have the proof, but don't want to provide it, and you say you did this research for free, yet now want 3 BTC to prepare a report.

Hmm. How about this, just show the proof that the tax document is connected to the XC dev, and we won't need your report. You save time, I save BTC, and you stop the whole scam in it's tracks, thereby doing the community a service which you so righteously proclaim is your goal. Because here's how it goes otherwise:

1: We ask Dan, he say's "No, that's not me"

2: We ask CoinsSource, they say "Actually, we contacted the dev and are awaiting verification. Currently no PoD stars have been awarded. Our article is based on an informal interview in IRC."

3: We contact the tax department and tell them we've found a guy called Dan Metcalf, who may, or may not be the same guy they're looking for, and that our guy is a coin dev who has got some bitcoins. We could say "Would you mind going and arresting your Dan Metcalf for us so we can see if it's the right guy? We're not quite sure you see, because there's more than one Daniel R Metcalf in Marshfield, and the guy who gave me the tax information removed the address and doesn't want show me how it's connected to the coin dev. Oh, one more thing, we have no reason to suspect that our guy has done anything illegal, we just want to make sure he's not the guy you're looking for."

The condescending tone of your reply to my simple request for proof of the connection smacks of someone who has no proof, instead you attempt to deflect the issue citing your hurt pride as the reason you provide none.

Has Dan actually denied being this guy?

Then obviously he is not this guy either, right?: https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=42275474&authType=NAME_SEARCH&authToken=Mj7i&locale=en_US&trk=tyah&trkInfo=tarId%3A1415552014018%2Ctas%3Adan%20metcalf%2Cidx%3A1-1-1

I'd like to see a link to his "denial". Maybe he denied it when he was "frustrated"... he tends to do that often.
1706  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map on: November 09, 2014, 03:32:10 PM
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I lost money? Some others lost money on this scamcoin and someone else is enjoying their money.
For the moment, hold your shitcoins and  dev will give you your paperwallet.  Cheesy


werent you the guy that was complaining because his .1 wasnt staking as well as you thought it would?  I know you didnt spend much. but I bet you didnt profit.... And mining is spending as you could have been mining a multipool pr something.

On topic though, There has definitely been some buying going on. I have NO IDEA what price to start thinking about exiting lol. With only 3 million coins (and alot of those are not going anywhere) It wouldnt take that much to hit 5k and beyond.

For once in your life you are right: It would only take a bit of a fair distribution effort... like the top 10 (or at least the to 6) wallets burning 90% of it's contents. Otherwise it will simply not happen. Oh and I believe it could go much higher than triple it's current market cap; it could go up between 6 nand 10 times higher.

But since it is not going to happen, it's just a count down to oblivion.

By the way, over 500,000 more coins will be created in the next 11-12 months to further dilute this disaster.
1707  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dear synechist, xc, blocknet, and dan metcalf on: November 09, 2014, 04:41:59 AM
I don't know why this all has to be so complex, when there's smoke, there's fire. Every single coin Dan has come running to offer help or do a code review for were prom pump projects. Halcyon, Aero, Key, and Util. Why has he not done code reviews for other outside coins? Whether he coded these coins personally and lied about reviewing someone else's work is irrelevant, the fact is the connection to Prometheus is very much real and that is disheartening.

I'd more give him the benefit of the doubt if had he ever done outside work for any coins with no proven ties to a pump and dump group because I seriously doubt prom was the only one constantly requesting his services but he hasn't. The ties are there, they are/were business partners or friends, you can't explain it any other way. Of course now they will come scurrying to deny it that they are only "acquaintances".



Even more peculiar is the fact the neither Prometheus nor Dan have denied the obvious business deal, so to speak, between them. Specifically they both had admitted every time they have been asked (but one in which Dan blatantly lied only to correct the lie that came -according to his own words- out of "frustration"), that Dan was indeed being paid by Prometheus to perform code reviews of several coins including those you mention. Obviously Prometheus timed the reviews to facilitate the dumps and obviously also Dan knew everything about it whether he was also benefiting from the pump and dumps -besides the payments received for the code reviews-, or not. That cannot be more unethical and is certainly illegal in the real world and would mean jail time for the perpetrators.

This is not opinion, no hearsay, certainly not FUD or any of the other rhetoric used by Dan's minions; this is just common sense applied to the parties own admissions. They don't negate the screen shots' content. They don't say any of the IRC's posted are false... the minions do.

As you say, it cannot be simpler... except that since it isn't in the interest of those who either participate in the P&D groups associated with Metcalf or his current projects, therefore, it has to be complicated. They want it to be complicated enough to loose the less amount of money possible in their ill-conceived investments. And they will delude themselves and deny any and all evidence to the most irrational limits imaginable... if they cannot excise it by decree like the dictator synechist does on his turf.

Fortunately, only people that wants to be taken for a ride will board those rides from now on.
1708  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 09, 2014, 04:00:46 AM
This is hilarious. I knew XC was junk right from the start.

whats hilarious, is leewilsons strange obsession, and the fact this thread is still around. lol

you don't have to read it. Answer the questions or be quit.

tempted to " be quit"

What questions are you referring to?

If its anything spoetnik has posted, you will have to decipher it for me, his posts hurt my brain so i skip them.

leewilsons tend to be long winded and irrelevant (see my last post.)

What brain? If you would have any you wouldn't be posting the biased bull crap you continue posting 24/7 defending the indefensible. Dan Metcalf is a LIAR. Dan Metcalf doesn't even know the meaning of ethical. Dan Metcalf is a paid co-conspirator to steal the money of people in many coins. Dan Metcalf belongs in jail... and that's exactly where he will end up sooner rather than later... along with quite a few others, including the dictator that runs XC's thread. Time is running out and they can try to run but there's no place to hide. The Feds are on the hunt and it is just a matter of time the clean up machine arrives and puts the trash in jail.

It will be quite a few months too late already...

/ ramblings of a madman.

Like I said, what questions?

why is Dan a lair? why is everyone going to end up in jail?

I'm not part of the XC/Blocknet team, but I have read pretty much every post from both sides.

What makes you think these things?

Seriously... ask me some questions. I highly doubt I could answer any that haven't already been answered, but ill try.





The time for questions (except in front of a jury) is long past. Everything is very clear to anyone with the most basic common sense.

But since you pose a very stupid question that has been answered a few times by Dan himself -and proves you haven't read anything, including Metcalf's own admissions of guilt-, I will answer you: Why is Dan a "lair"? you ask, and here's the answer: Because he has answered, at least three different times -all of them available for checking on the net-, with different and opposed answers, to the question "where you involved with Prometheus when asked to do a review of HAL's code?". First he answered "yes"; then he answered "No". And when faced with the contradiction he admitted the lie but "explained it away" with the pathetic "I was frustrated". See, in Dan's world, "being frustrated" means carte blanche to lie as much as he finds it convenient. Additionally he also denied any knowledge of Bobsurplus, only to admit a few seconds later that he had indeed talked to him on the skype. I'd say those alone -there are many, many more, would qualify anyone in Dan's position as a LIAR, don't you think? Humm, strike that, I am obviously barking at the wrong tree here...

Also in Dan's very personal world, a simple twitter that may or may not imply that he is on the payroll of Prometheus, means that it is a public admission of such and, peculiarly, exculpates him from any ethical or even legal responsibilities. Therefore if he has posted anywhere that he was doing a code review of a coin, or that he had done it, for Prometheus, that means -again in Dan's world, and ONLY in Dan's world- that it is a rightful thing to do... as many times as he is paid for it and fully knowing his involvement is being timed and used to deceive and rob unsuspecting investors.

What makes me think these things? Have you read the papers of late? If so you would know that the FBI just arrested "Defcon" a couple of days ago and has thrown him in jail, wouldn't you? Well if you would bother to read what the authorities have said after the arrest you would know that the broom is already in motion and that a stark clean up of the Alt world is already quite in progress... ahhh, it will apply to people from outside of the US since European -and other- agencies are fully cooperating, so not only Metcalf as an American resident will be object of the incoming clean up, but also some of his associates from overseas too.

So contrary to your delusions, I don't have questions, I have answers. Not that I have any hopes they will be of any satisfaction to you, of course, but there are solid answers nonetheless.
1709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 09, 2014, 02:52:49 AM
This is hilarious. I knew XC was junk right from the start.

whats hilarious, is leewilsons strange obsession, and the fact this thread is still around. lol

you don't have to read it. Answer the questions or be quit.

tempted to " be quit"

What questions are you referring to?

If its anything spoetnik has posted, you will have to decipher it for me, his posts hurt my brain so i skip them.

leewilsons tend to be long winded and irrelevant (see my last post.)

What brain? If you would have any you wouldn't be posting the biased bull crap you continue posting 24/7 defending the indefensible. Dan Metcalf is a LIAR. Dan Metcalf doesn't even know the meaning of ethical. Dan Metcalf is a paid co-conspirator to steal the money of people in many coins. Dan Metcalf belongs in jail... and that's exactly where he will end up sooner rather than later... along with quite a few others, including the dictator that runs XC's thread. Time is running out and they can try to run but there's no place to hide. The Feds are on the hunt and it is just a matter of time the clean up machine arrives and puts the trash in jail.

It will be quite a few months too late already...
1710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 09, 2014, 02:04:19 AM
I was just wondering, do the VeriCoin developers read Barabbas' above very relevant and constructive comment and are they willing take the comments on board?

They have. Many times. Answer: We agree with most if not everything Barabbas say... it's only his way of saying it (that prevents us from actually doing anything).

The same, identical in fact, applies to Scott and some "professional experts in marketing".

On all MINUS the recently added warnings regarding the direction of the coin towards the dark side AND the repercussions that what they are doing now will have in their future careers.

I just put them on the spot to force them to think things over quick. Hopefully, NOT for the good of the project but to shield their future, they will listen this time around, before it is too late.

Oh and Doug of course will continue working on yet another version of the wallet... that won't exactly ever work right in Windows... at the end of the day.

Doug's battle with the compiler to release a windows wallet that works - which hasn't happened yet - is epic. Crypto historians will write about this epic battle as the Sisyphus of crypto.

In the meantime, Pnosker admitting the defeat on twitter saying that people are not interested in VRC, Wizrig is attacking Pnosker on Twitter why he made a secret deal with IE, which brings chaos to the VRC team since not long time ago Jay Jay and EffectsToCause spoke with the highest regards about WizRig in an interview.

No progress, no direction, no willingness to work with the community, this coin is unfortunately dead.

I guess I'm missing the funniest parts of the movie not checking Twitter... so now IE's been part of the picture too?  Ah the stooges, you cannot make up the shit they come up with...

Edit to add: Now I'm up to date. Nah, it's Wizrig once again turning against their friends as he usually do when there are greener pastures. The "secret deal" he's now talking about is a very old one of when IE was endorsing VRC. That's old stuff and quite irrelevant now. What's relevant though is that the stooges are, while heavily burdened at school, selling their services because, apparently, some coins want the dynamic interest feature, so they sold it to Arch and now Kelly, at Nautilus, seems to be interested also, so they'll be busy "helping" others while James continues dedicating a few minutes here and there to bring the cloud for child pornography and the like to Vericoin... if the Feds don't put a halt to it (they will).

No progress in VRC and the only direction being the doomed one, but they are getting a few coins here and there "helping". No wonder the price resumed the downside spiral...
1711  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 08, 2014, 11:33:35 PM
I think we won't raise much more than 300BTC

What do you think dev, is that good enough?

They will sell whatever is left in a "private sale" that, before materializing, will be offered again to the community...

question is, at what price? They have said that it will be at the most expensive level of the ICO... which begs the obvious question: why would anyone pay a higher price for the private sale than what they could have gotten at any of the stages of the IPO? I believe that is very ill-conceived strategy and will, obviously, backfire.

That said, when and if a working platform is presented, before the ICO ends, as they have stated they will have ready and available for testing, some more sales will be achieved... although I doubt many more people is going to invest at higher prices than current.

As I have stated several times before, bringing this IPO without any product to show has been the opposite of brilliant.

My suggestion -once again- is to stop the ICO, issue refunds, and start all over when the product is ready for prime time. I am pretty sure the people who has already invested will maintain the same or higher level of investment and many people that want to see what you guys bring to the gaming table, will invest massively if it is in any way better than existing platforms. Massively. Timing-wise, if the new ICO could be presented withing a couple of weeks or three, it could be much better since the BTC price has stabilized -or so it seems-, but the key basically is that a lot of serious investors will simply not buy in without knowing what the platform looks like. In my opinion this is the best idea I have seen in crypto alts mostly wasted  by bringing it to the market place  prematurely. Premature ejaculation, as it were: The rush and the passion are there but... she did not get anything out of it.

You can't change the ICO every 3 days people will get pissed.

My suggestion is to get the platform working ASAP then extend the IPO until we get the fund needed.

We don't need to change the price or refund people it's a bad idea.

Private Sale get a less attractive price but they get to see a working product so it is much easier and much safer to invest.

Really? Says who? But it doesn't matter if it is or not a "much easier and much safer investment"; what matters is that no one is paying 1 BTC for LESS than 1,000 bros when some have bought more than 6 times that many for 1 BTC. No one in his sane mind will ever do that, regardless of how nice or promising the platform will be. Then what? the project will go ahead with 300-350 BTC funding? what happens to the BROs not sold, are they destroyed along with the bergstake?

It isn't a matter of "being fair" or if "people will get pissed" or not; it is a matter of rightfully raise the funds that are needed to go ahead with the project and I gather that 350 BTC will just not be enough and will do no good to anyone.

Now, going back to the original idea, coming out with a product that everyone can see, test and value AND let the market decide the price of the coins as it was originally planned, can be done, achieve great results and get the thing moving within 7 days, instead of collecting a paltry amount that will do good to no one at all.

But hey, that's just the way I see this potential great idea go to waste; obviously others view things differently. I'll keep watching the madness unfold...
1712  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BRO] Breakout Coin Genesis Sale | Proof-of-Bergstake | Poker | Fantasy on: November 08, 2014, 07:38:29 PM
I think we won't raise much more than 300BTC

What do you think dev, is that good enough?

They will sell whatever is left in a "private sale" that, before materializing, will be offered again to the community...

question is, at what price? They have said that it will be at the most expensive level of the ICO... which begs the obvious question: why would anyone pay a higher price for the private sale than what they could have gotten at any of the stages of the IPO? I believe that is very ill-conceived strategy and will, obviously, backfire.

That said, when and if a working platform is presented, before the ICO ends, as they have stated they will have ready and available for testing, some more sales will be achieved... although I doubt many more people is going to invest at higher prices than current.

As I have stated several times before, bringing this IPO without any product to show has been the opposite of brilliant.

My suggestion -once again- is to stop the ICO, issue refunds, and start all over when the product is ready for prime time. I am pretty sure the people who has already invested will maintain the same or higher level of investment and many people that want to see what you guys bring to the gaming table, will invest massively if it is in any way better than existing platforms. Massively. Timing-wise, if the new ICO could be presented withing a couple of weeks or three, it could be much better since the BTC price has stabilized -or so it seems-, but the key basically is that a lot of serious investors will simply not buy in without knowing what the platform looks like. In my opinion this is the best idea I have seen in crypto alts mostly wasted  by bringing it to the market place  prematurely. Premature ejaculation, as it were: The rush and the passion are there but... she did not get anything out of it.
1713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 08, 2014, 06:40:29 PM
Funny. Synechist the dictator blabbermouth for Metcalf, pretending of late that looking into the very questionable professional and business practices of Dan Metcalf would be an "outrageous invasion of privacy..." Simply amazing the level of delusion and pretension to -when convenient- adhering to "the burden of proof" of the real world while lining their pockets with cloak activities that in that same real world would have landed Dan Metcalf and Prometheus in jail long ago. Simply amazing.

And they still don't want to "get the clear memo" the FBI sent just a couple of days ago with the detention of Defcom... OK, Dan, boy, Synechist, Prometheus, Bobsurplus et all WE ARE COMING FOR YOU, Feds are saying loud and clear, ok? Get it now? No place to hide no time to run. They WILL GET YOU, they are just waiting the best time to nail you but make no mistake about it: They will get you just like they got Defcom and they will others.

Now those who want to risk getting caught with their money invested in the schemes of these guys, good luck. You most certainly are going to need it.
1714  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: November 08, 2014, 05:02:38 PM
They have been pumping and dumping already for a couple of days. Pretty obvious.
1715  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SCAM] BLOCKNET: The Metcalf/Prom Alt-Coin Cartel Scam Exposed on: November 08, 2014, 04:34:16 PM
So much running around the bushes... wow. The whole thing is more than clear. And simple. Not even denied but the parties:

-- Dan Metcalf was paid by Prometheus (pump & dump). Like everyone who is paid to do things, he did whatever suited Prometheus. Period. Still does.

That's the whole enchilada, the long and the short of it. Do of it whatever you choose. All the rest, details, evidence... BS. Of the raw, smoking kind.
1716  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 08, 2014, 04:11:29 PM
I was just wondering, do the VeriCoin developers read Barabbas' above very relevant and constructive comment and are they willing take the comments on board?

They have. Many times. Answer: We agree with most if not everything Barabbas say... it's only his way of saying it (that prevents us from actually doing anything).

The same, identical in fact, applies to Scott and some "professional experts in marketing".

On all MINUS the recently added warnings regarding the direction of the coin towards the dark side AND the repercussions that what they are doing now will have in their future careers.

I just put them on the spot to force them to think things over quick. Hopefully, NOT for the good of the project but to shield their future, they will listen this time around, before it is too late.

Oh and Doug of course will continue working on yet another version of the wallet... that won't exactly ever work right in Windows... at the end of the day.
1717  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map on: November 08, 2014, 06:32:03 AM
Remarkable level of idiocy. Wow. Over and OUT!
1718  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [VRC] | VeriCoin | POS-NSDI | VeriBit | VeriSend | VeriSMS | SuperNET Core on: November 07, 2014, 09:09:02 PM
Hi guys
the only one I see here with no Balls is TROLL-A-TROLL. Come on use your real ID. Other than that let the fun continue. Free speech rules. I don't give a flying f**K about price as I didn't invest anything I can't afford to

lose. If you don't like what's happening with VRC then sell and move on. Continuous trashing of Dev's is not going to get us anywhere. Respect yourself and respect others.

Jon  Wink  

As far as opinions go, yours is as valid as anyone else's -in this free environment, that is-.

But to be fair I don't believe any "trashing" of devs is going on here... unless, of course, you presume that they have any talents beyond what they have showed. They had quite frankly admitted that, techwise, this is it. Admitting it is VERY POSITIVE, because that puts the project opened up for outside contributions, such as the one James is in the process of bringing.

Now the problem here is a bit more on the personality side. These guys obviously -but they will not admit to it- have no idea of how to promote a coin with the intention of reaching some kind of real-life adoption. And they are not open to solution by people that do either. THAT is the problem of Vericoin. That's why I refer to them, humorously, as the Stooges. Because, like that wonderfully funny trio, these guys have absolutely no idea of what they are doing... as utterly proven with the misdeeds of the past, moolah, visa, etc.

Consequently, we are here, on a waiting period, at the whim of James who is driving VRC towards a point of no return, towards "the Dark Side" as it were. We all have read about the actions of yesterday and the announcement of more to come by different agencies of the US government, sending Defcom to jail and announcing that many more arrests are forthcoming in a determined effort to clean house in crypto land. And cleaning house they will. Is the direction that James has put Vericoin in the proper one, the most beneficial one for the future of the project? I have to admit that, as the FIRST supporter of James' involvement in Vericoin, I son't know at the moment. When I utterly and without doubt supported it, I was sure -as it happened- that the price would at least double if James came in. It did. I also had great expectations as to what new, cutting edge, technology James would bring to Vericoin -not that I believe the project need anything in that regard, mind you-. What I did not foresee -how could I?- was that James would bring the disparate of an idea that is for Vericoin to provide decentralized cloud storage, something that will put Vericoin, instantly, as the target of the Feds and as far away as any project can be from regulation and a CLEAN image. As such, I believe it is a horrible idea and totally damaging to the future of Vericoin. The market agrees with me, as you can clearly see, selling, immediately, even a rebound of 40%.

In other words, Vericoin has become a kleenex, so to speak, that James will use and throw away -or have it thrown away by the Feds-. There's no future, none, in the direction that we are following now. And the purpose of this open and free thread is, precisely, I believe, to wave the red flag. The Stooges, contrary to what some may believe, have James in their hands, NOT the other way around: James wants anonymity at all costs, the kind of anonymity only the Stooges can provide because everyone else in Alts is tainted, no exceptions (and in danger of going to jail in many cases). And he needs a "clean" face for SuperNET, so the Stooges can write their own ticket regarding James. They can easily veto the peregrine project of cloud storage and insist on some CLEAN alternative that will not put Vericoin in flagrante delicto and therefore condemned to be closed (and probably prosecuted) sooner rather than later.

Additionally, our dear stooges have to protect their resumes and they shouldn't allow to ever be associated with anything as shady as a decentralized cloud storage. One is already working for Microsoft and the other two hopefully will have long careers in science... It is NOT WORTH IT guys. Even if down the line there's some reward that no one can foresee and that the market, not just me and others, are negating.

The case is stated. Only here, where it cannot be deleted. And, whatever you choose to believe, it is by far the most constructive post that anyone, on any forum, has ever written.

Finally, if the stooges were to take things in their own hands and insist on a clean ticket to the supernet, I don't know how the market would react, I'm guessing very positively, but I do know how I would react: By buying a significant amount of coins at current or even slightly higher prices... not that it would be of any major significance since it would be a moderate investment, but that would be the extent of my support in that particular scenario. I am quite sure many other people also would.
1719  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [♔] British Digital Currency | 5% annual PoS - Bittrex - Fiat to BritCoin [BRIT] on: November 06, 2014, 02:22:23 PM
Have not heard anything from william, unless he's dead i guess he left the game.
I talked to him yesterday. He said his sister gave birth and that he has been busy but he will be back on soon.

Now that explains it!  I mean his sister gave birth guys! How can you possibly do anything, anything at all, for days, weeks even, if your sister gives birth?Huh? Imagine if, besides that, he's afflicted with hemorrhoids...
1720  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE CASE OF PINK COIN on: November 06, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
I have nothing further.

Those who want to know have evidence and facts (not nearly ALL but quite enough) to know with what kind of rotten individuals we are dealing here. Joke coin PINK is dead anyway but people should be on the look out for these guys, inside and outside of crypto for they may have the misfortune of crossing paths again. Be very aware.
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