Interesting thinking, although there is no logic at all in what you wrote. The only difference between what you are currently promoting (and it is a mixer) and the CM that has been seized is that the former has not yet been officially placed in the same category, or in other words it has not been officially declared a money laundering service. Precisely. If any business was declared as a money launder or other criminal activity alleged against them, I would apply the only available logic and would stop participating in their signature campaigns. And add to that if allegations were made by forum members that they were scammed by any business I display in my avatar or signature then I will remove it and probably open (or at least participate) in a scam accusation thread. You cannot know who is using the mixer that you are currently promoting, but in case you find out that some criminals used it for their dirty business, will you then be worried that you will have to return all the earnings and that guys from some three agency letters will knock on your door? I personally would not be worried about possibly being asked to hand over the received fees for the signature campaign but others might be. If asked by law enforcement agencies I would simply give it as I would not want to be viewed as a criminal or fugitive. Having said, if law enforcement agencies made it clear they will ask Chipmixer signature campaign participants to send/surrender all funds they received from the Chipmixer signature campaign, I would immediately remove any mixer from my avatar and/or signature and never get involved with mixer campaigns again and that would only be because a precedent would have been set by the law enforcement agencies. As of yet, that has not happened. In addition, thanks to one of the members, we know the official position of the forum administration regarding mixers, which is a very clear message for those who know how to read between the lines. I am missing something. |
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I guess you must not be too worried about the consequences at this point, right? Seeing as you are one of those participating in the highest paying campaign atm, which is also a mixer. No I am not concerned because as with others I can make a distinction between promoting a service that provides privacy and one that could be misused if determined people (criminals) wanted to take advantage of, versus an out-and-out criminal enterprise. If I get even the slightest bit of indication that either a scam or criminal enterprise is being promoted in my avatar or signature, I will remove them immediately. I had a very good deal with my long term signature partner and I am grateful for the opportunity to promote them but I moved on to whirlwind.money for now and will see how matters progress. As far as I can see most of the responses are along the same lines as well. I believe the same. It's one thing if there was a regulation or law banning mixers. If there were, I think there could be consequences for knowingly advertising an illegal service . But I understand that there is no such regulation, what there is is suspicion by the authorities that they are used for money laundering and lack of cooperation in response to requests. So, it's a different story. Yes, since most here share the view mixers are not banned therefore can be promoted then why not promote them however the issue goes further when it comes to privacy. Mixers by default are supposed to be privacy based, that is their selling point. The notion of having regulated mixers would almost ensure they would not be shutdown by law enforcement agencies but it would defeat the idea because it would compromise client anonymity via AML/KYC. As that will not be happening any time soon (or ever), all mixers are basically open to allegations of money laundering and can be shutdown by various law enforcement agencies as and when they deem they have sufficient evidence to prosecute. In my opinion, unless some form of evolution in mixing takes place where access of functionality is limited to criminals (or alleged criminals) or those with nefarious intentions then sooner or later all mixers will be shutdown either voluntarily or by law enforcement agencies. |
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~ A set of wonderful posts which were both very well thought out and carefully articulated. At the same time they were highly through provoking too. Refreshing to read. Out of curiosity, were there any specific reasons why you quit signature campaigns around 2018 when you had already enrolled in several from 2015? |
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I am not claiming the OP is correct in their conduct or claim and at the same time I am not claiming sherbet.com are correct in their conduct or counterclaim. I would like to read what the OP has to say in response to the post made by playsherbet where they claimed the OP conducted in fraudulent activity. After reading that elusive post I will be able to comment further but others are welcome to come to their own views and conclusions as and when they are ready. What I stated in my previous post and reiterate here is this: If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbetYou and another member seem to have taken over spokesperson roles for the OP. The OP meanwhile continues to avoid replying directly to the sherbet.com forum representative. The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong. If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbetIf anything, Sherbet's response confirms they are a scam bookie. They simply said the player placed value bets on low-tier events, what makes you think that's valid grounds to confiscate winnings? Would love to hear your reasoning |
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today the shareholders' meeting of the rock trading was held, it came out that they have a fairly large loss of money estimated at between 15 and 20 million euros but in reality the actual amount of the loss is not known. they say, but it will be verified, that they have suffered a violation of their wallets where they kept user funds. in the meantime, a bankruptcy petition has been filed and will be discussed on 4 April next. Do you have a link? It would be good to read the information directly from the source to understand what was stated in full. First, I apologize @Coinfan and @Jollygood if a few times my responses to this thread have been a bit dubious. Unfortunately, despite being one of the oldest exchanges, TRT also proved to be unreliable. I think Italian law is the first to blame in this sad affair becasue it was not able to protect the customers who had relied on TRT: in fact, it was enough to look at the latest financial statements to understand that something was wrong ( here is my analysis in the Italian discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440181.msg61974099#msg61974099 ) . The seriousness lies in the fact is that Italian law has only ever been concerned about AML & KYC has never cared to check TRT's financial soundness. For the Italian goverment in short you can be swindled by a bank or an exhange that guards your assets, the important thing is that you are not a tax evader or a criminal. I am sorry because what happened will further contribute to increasing the FUD about cryptocurrencies in my country. I do not have any recollection of your input in this thread but if you did not accept the version of events put forward by the OP (being scammed) then it would be your right to believe the exchange over the individual but I am glad you have changed your view now Rock Trading have been shuitdown after what appears to be mass fraud. The OP had €35,519 (at the time) seized unfairly by the Rock Trading and to this day they did not receive their money and will probably not see a penny of it. I feel sorry for the OP. |
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The OP made a scam allegation against sherbet.com. He has not responded directly to the post made by the sherbet.com representative where they justified grounds for taking action against him and according to them the OP did not use the opportunity to dispute the decision via their website live chat to present evidence to prove them wrong. If the OP is avoiding responding directly to posts by sherbet.com he should lock the thread and move on, unless he can present evidence to challenge the version of events given by playsherbet |
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What is response to the post made by the sherbet.com forum representative where they claimed the sportsbook company definitely stated you were involved in fraudulent activity? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5446145.msg61977685#msg61977685This is what's wrong and is one of the biggest problems in crypto-betting. Find value, place bets and win = Fraud. |
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Thank you for the explanation. As with many scam allegations made against casinos, the dynamics can change after the alleged perpetrator writes their side of the story. If the Sportsbook provider stated the OP cannot be trusted because of fraudulent activity it stands to reason you would take action as per your terms and conditions. If the OP refused to dispute your conclusions or share evidence via your website online chat it means you did not really have much choice but to take action. Hi, diggad, Our sportsbook provider (Betby) contacted us on the 21st of March, alerting us to the fact that your account was conducting fraudulent bets on our sportsbook. After confirming with them via Skype, we were told you have been placing value bets + betting on low-cat events, and your account had been flagged elsewhere too. Please see the screenshot below:  We conducted a review of your account and found you have withdrawn hundreds of dollars from these bets, which is why your account was initially suspended. We have provided you with the ability to dispute this review and share your own evidence via the email provided on Intercom, which you have not done. As per the terms and conditions you agreed to upon registering on Sherbet, we maintain the ability to suspend accounts that are in breach of our terms. We believe you were well aware of the fact you were unfairly taking advantage of our sportsbook, and our provider is 100% confident in their decision to flag your account. Sherbet is a new casino, and we operate under strict regulations and terms which we uphold to our highest ability. We don't tolerate sportsbook abuse, nor do we tolerate any breaches of our terms. As explained above (and on Intercom), you are more than welcome to send us an email containing evidence from your account, and we can review this with our provider to ensure the correct decision was made. |
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I would like to address your post by saying yahoo62278 is well respected member of the forum. In my opinion the tone you applied towards him was inappropriate. I think his post did not warrant the response you gave him. Anyway, yahoo62278 said nothing more and nothing less than what many forum members already believe and beyond that he advised the OP to contact the playsherbet forum representative via PM. He was not exaggerating in any capacity. I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
I think you are exaggerating. It's not that hard to understand why. The player in question may not have had an ambition to have an account here until he encountered problems with the operator so now he's here seeking help from the community. It's that simple. Stop assuming things until proven otherwise. |
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How are you JayJuanGee, it has been a long time. I hope you are well  The post was not intended to come across as advocating for more or less government control, my apologies if it was misconstrued. As for the official story as stated in the law enforcement case against the owner of Chipmixer, maybe the law enforcement agencies or other sources will provide information which goes further to explain what was happening. Gosh.. that sounds scary JollyGood - that you seem to be advocating for even stronger and/or more rigorous and draconian Govt measures, and surely I am not anti-government, but whenever I see these kinds of cases, I become skeptical of the government story - and maybe part of my discomfort comes from their seemingly conflicting mandates of "protecting the public" while at the same time not disclosing too much about a case that is under investigation and/or that the seemingly target person (alleged wrongdoer) is still on the loose.
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Here is another screenshot from the OP which was posted a short while ago:  |
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One aspect of this whole situation (and in future it would be a huge talking-point) would be the manner in which other than the owner/operator of Chipmixer, zero blame seems to have been put on those that facilitated the money laundering operation.
For example, the hosting company where he used the servers. These servers were used for criminal activity to around $3 billion in money laundering yet no action was taken against them. The question of whether they were responsible in-part even by ignorance is one that can be asked by agencies. In the end they are a hosting company and would not be interested in what was being hosted but legally there might be obligations on them too.
If the servers were based in a country or jurisdiction where there is friction or conflict between them and the US government then the matter would most probably have more emphasis as being backed by various states with nefarious intentions. From what I read on the case, the only person of interest to the law enforcement agencies is the Chipmixer owner.
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You have a point, many are newbies but many claim to have found find their way to the forum here after they could not (allegedly) find a solution with their company they made allegations against. I agree with you and others in that the OP should at least contact the Sherbet forum representative at the very least to ask him to post here. I find it simply amazing that most of the scam accusations against casinos are by newbie accounts. I'm not saying all of them a liars but i'll bet more then half are full of shit. They open an accusation knowing full well they're cheating a casino is some way, shape, or form.
With that being said, OP you should probably send a PM to the casino rep on here so they can see your post. You may not be 1 of the shady users I just mentioned, just looks funny that almost all accusations are from newbies.
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I am quoting the image links that were posted by the OP in order for the screenshots to be seen as the OP claims it forms a huge part of the evidence to support the allegation. I look forward to the sherbet.com forum representative posting here with their views on the allegation made against them.  =========== |
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UPDATE TO INCREASE IN PRIZE FUNDWell going by what Igebotz has just said, the prize fund has been increased to $50 ($25 from Utopia and $25 from Igebotz) In that case, I would request all participants and prospective participants to visit Utopia and ♐Igebotz Management Services ♒ to view the services they offer and I thank them both. =====
Thank you, JollyGood and Utopia, for this contest! Welcome Gazeta, I am grateful Utopia have funded another competition and am happy we have a growing number of participants. Cool raffle buddy! Thanks a lot @JollyGood! Really appreciate another contest! Thank you. I wanted this one to follow in the footsteps of the Carabao Cup competition where in order to win some sort of skill (other than lucky draw) is required. I am glad you liked the structure Thanks for this new free competition! Welcome and thank you for participating. I wish you and all participants the best I am posting if the time ended for the competition then you may exclude me from the competition. If not ended then it will be great. You are in  The competition is open until 1 hour before kick-off of the first semi-final game which at the moment is scheduled for 22nd April 2023.
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How can you be believed when you say that you are the new owner of 1xbit / 1xbit1.com? The copyright notice in the 1xbit1 website is still laughable ( Copyright © 2016 - 2023 «1xBit» All rights reserved and protected by law) and if you update terms and conditions with your company name, address and contact details then you might be taken seriously. For now, the 1xbit1.com website does noes not even display a notice to show they are under new management. What evidence can you provide to back up your claim? Hello,
My name is Mark.
My name is Mark. We have decided with our company to acquire and manage 1xbit.com. We have also seen that the previous domain 1xbit.com has had significant problems with many people who have unfortunately been scammed. Unfortunately I cannot say anything further about this due to the private rights of the persons, but we as management will first clean up and that means that we will review every situation from the moment 1xbit.com has operated. I don't have an overview of all precise problems. To all victims: Could you send me a PM with your email address and / or User Id and the size of the amount with which you have been disadvantaged. Please also indicate what exactly happened so that it is easy for me to make an inventory of the case. If the claims are valid, I will personally ensure that all victims still receive the crypto they are entitled to.
The domain 1xbit.com is still available, but only for administration. All new players are automatically redirected to 1xbit1.com of which we are now the new management.
To all the victims: Please contact me with PM.
Mark.
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I have not posted the warning in this thread for some time therefore here it is. All members (especially newbies) are advised to stay away from the 1xbit scammers otherwise they will probably end being scammed at some point in their dealings with them: |
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Regarding 1xbit, any person sending funds or trying to withdraw funds from any of their associated websites is in danger of having them seized under dubious grounds. There are many alternatives out there that have a non-scam history, I would advise all those reading this post to avoid using 1xbit and their associated websites. |
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I am fairly sure the unification fight between Fury and Usyk will go ahead one day but if does not in April 2023, I will probably start an alternative competition/lottery. In the meantime, here is the FA Cup semi final competition sponsored by Utopia: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445381.0 |
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