That is effectively what he is stating. They have literally nothing but are seeking $77 to join a Telegram group which will give the group members benefits they have not yet explained.

Therefore this is akin to a ponzi or pyramid scheme and all of this simply for a you never gona be alone with your problems club? Who will fall for this money wasting exercise. There is no website, no advertising and no email address therefore you are using Telegram to fool people in to parting with $77?

I suppose Hhampuz would be the only person to answer the question. Maybe he will post the answer. The problem we face is we just do not know what the facts behind the case are.

The similarities between the Tornado Cash and Whirlwind websites was shown in an image some pages back therefore the connection cannot be ruled out but there is no evidence to connect them either. This is all very baffling.

I have just had a look at the campaign sheets, he definitely has been removed yet he is still posting (his last post was yesterday) and he was wearing the Rollbit signature. Even at that stage account farmers have hope that if they keep posting a couple of times a week they keep the account active and it might have value in future.

He did not post here once using the Lordhermes account after the account was accused of being part of massive farm. If some accounts go back to over a decade it would mean the account farmer has operated these accounts for a long time. If he has not created them, he has hacked or purchased them.

That would then raise the question (and conspiracy theories) about what happened to the owner/operator of Whirlwind if he was that upright. He was knowledgable and that was noticed from the manner in which he was posting. The whole episode is confusing.

Does this club have a name and website URL?

Brentford should beat Bournemouth and Liverpool should beat Aston Villa. I think Brighton could end up defeating Newcastle United because they are playing excellent in possession even though they had a loss in their previous game.

These are the games taking place today Saturday 2nd September 2023:

Sheffield United vs Everton
Brentford vs Bournemouth
Burnley vs Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea vs Nottingham Forest
Manchester City vs Fulham
Brighton and Hove Albion vs Newcastle United

Sheffield United and Everton had the early kick-off therefore it is half-time in that game and currently 1-1. Brighton and Newcastle United play in the late kick-off game. With West Ham winning away at Luton Town yesterday, they proudly sit at the top of the Premier League table but Manchester City and Tottenham can push them to 2nd or 3rd if they win their games today.

Result from the game played yesterday: Luton Town 1-2 West Ham United

Limiting to 1 sMerit is an option and removing merits completely is another. Ideally, there has to be some way of controlling spam at root level from the contributors perspective where they do not feel the urge to spam rather than spam being reported.

Merits it seems is something that is in massive demand as account farmers try to get their alt-accounts enrolled in the highest paying signature campaigns. They will find ways to spam, beg and concoct stories whilst trying to have posts merited. It really is up to those giving merits to be more responsible as their behaviour determines what action merit seekers take next.

I think that is the point mentioned by nutildah. The criteria should not be merit givers giving merits for any reason other than the receiver deserving it. The definition of what posts deserve merits should not even be discussed because it will vary immensely from member to member. There is simply far too much reasoning and rationale (as well as politics, cliques, revenge, grudges etc) involved per individual member thought processes to ever find anything close to consensus therefore it should not be discussed here.

Keeping that aside, disabling merits in one thread could start an avalanche of requests for other threads but there is a problem and it has not been tackled. I am glad the OP started the thread to invite discussion.

There we have the answer to reporting low-quality posts and spamming in the Wall Observer thread. Moderators are not going to take action therefore what could be a solution that is acceptable to those concerned about the level of spamming and merit begging without those that are giving the merits feeling they are being censored?

That would tie-in with the part when the owner told Hhampuz he had travelled but was returning and during his absence he did not allow anybody complete access to the Whirlwind server. Though it would still not be enough negate any negligence on his part as things currently stand, with the funds untouched after all this time it raises more questions about whether something really did happen to him.

One of the issues account farmers face (and there are too many account farmers in the forum) is the manner in which they will try to receive merits. If they use the higher ranking (Full Member/Snr Member/Hero/Legendary) accounts they already operate to give out merits they will end up getting connected with their alt-accounts. The safest way for them to receive merits would be try to get other members to send them.

Not entirely but much activity in the Wall Observer thread has morphed in to an educational session for newbies and account farmers on how to spam and hope for merits.

The notion they will eventually receive merits for flooding copy/paste from Twitter/X has enabled the culture to thrive. Ranking-up threads used to mean something back in the day, now they mean nothing more than an attempt to get more merits rather than a mechanism for recognition for the contributions they have made in the community.

The threads created to give out merits for worthy posts that are reported to them are a force for good if they are used properly. There are several threads like that but when they are flooded with members who are operating as part of account farms, it simply does not bring the benefit the merit sources had intended.

Just look at the state of the thread here: Save your nice merit records here - LAST UPDATE: 12/07/2023

It was a nice idea to have that thread for reasons it was created for but lately it has been flooded by a huge number of relatively new members seeking merits for posting about other members merits and activity. In many cases there were no nice merits to save but some members used (and still do use it) to post anything they can hold of but ultimately they are seeking merits. It is for that reason many low ranking members started posting non-memorable records usually of much higher ranking members rather than Jnr Member or Member accounts because they hoped to get merits.

Not just the merit givers but as a collective we have to stop teaching them that spamming, sucking up and kissing ass pays otherwise we are sending out the wrong message of encouragement.

You have a host of very serious allegations made against you yet you have made just this one token post to claim innocence. Since you replied here you've made 12 posts including 4 today and all of them in football threads therefore it can be concluded you intended to meet your signature campaign requirement rather than put up a defence when your account was being called in to question.

There is a huge amount of evidence posted to link you with evading a ban and also for cheating in bounty campaigns. Instead of defending your account by putting forward an alternative version of events you have effectively accepted this is your last week to receive signature campaign payments from the Lordhermes account therefore you posted in football threads instead of challenging any information that was presented.

That leads me to the following question: How many accounts do you actually operate? Did you create this Lordhermes account or was it purchased from the original creator to use within the account farm?

These are the games taking place today:

Burnley vs Aston Villa
Sheffield United vs Manchester City 
Newcastle United vs Liverpool

Silva was gaining reputation fast. Sadly for him it went downhill when he managed a bigger club and though not successful recently, Everton are a big club with potential and huge fanbase. He will do well at Fulham, I hope he stays there and builds a team capable of staying in the Premier League.

This will be a brilliant game to watch. If Newcastle United win they will show they are going to chase a top four spot all season. If Liverpool win, they will show they are after the Premier League crown. I think Newcastle will edge this or it will be a draw therefore the odds for Liverpool to win do not seem attractive 

I know he has been ruffling too many feathers with his hypocritical posts and his claims of superior intellect which resulted in the OP creating this thread but the primary problem from my perspective is related to BenCodie stating he had enough information and belief (with 5 flags) to conclude that Whirlwind was a scam. Yet with that certainty he did not raise his concerns with anybody nor did he have a problem with trying to join their signature campaign as long as he was paid on time.

I asked him have a period of self-reflection on his recent conduct but rather than offer somewhat of even a half-hearted apology to those he insulted, he has gone on the offensive.

BenCodie is a complete and utter narcissist. After he was confronted for his unacceptable conduct in the Whirlwind thread, he refused to post there. It is not as though he has contributed anything to the forum yet he goes around lecturing members on matters that portray himself as a hypocrite, which is self-defeating. He wants to give the impression of superior intellect yet fails spectacularly because he comes across as nothing more than someone who has a bloated opinion of self-importance.

unibitcoinist is clearly attention-seeking and he is not the only one. BenCodie seems to be posting anywhere but here after his recent comments. No reputable campaign manager or reputable forum member would knowingly be part of a scammers signature campaign because if they did they would not be reputable.

Rather than question others behaviour, unibitcoinist should tell us about why he did not tag anybody related to the Whirlwind signature campaign?

Your account was registered in 2018 yet in more than 5 years you have made 3 posts and they were between 18/19th August 2023. Your post about the roulette has been swarmed over by a bunch newbies with their own questionable history. What do you have to say about that?

BenCodie has made a series of unacceptable posts in the Whirlwind thread therefore he seems to have a very high opinion of himself. It is probably that narcissistic attitude that has made him become noticed recently, when he most probably would have stayed unnoticed. He seems highly opinionated on matters of gambling and mixers but is willing to push sentiments aside if it means participating in signature campaigns.

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Care to post here BenCodie:

Is it fair to say Fulham should have won the game? Arsenal took the lead after Fulham had a player down in need of medical attention. The referee should have stopped the game but having said that Fulham equalised. Palhinha dominated the game for Fulham therefore it was fitting he scored the equaliser.

These were the results of the games played today. West Ham United sit at the top of the Premier League table:

Bournemouth 0-2 Tottenham Hotspur  
Arsenal 2-2 Fulham  
Brentford 1-1 Crystal Palace  
Everton 0-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers  
Manchester United 3-2 Nottingham Forest  
Brighton and Hove Albion 1-3 West Ham United

How strange.

I am disappointed at the way BenCodie has stated he was convinced Whirlwind was a scam (and posted flags) yet he tried to join the campaign on the basis he was not obliged to raise concerns. I wrote a post but decided to replace it with a watered down one asking him to reflect on his actions, he has not posted back since.

There is one game taking place this evening:

Chelsea vs Luton Town

With 75 minutes played Chelsea are winning 3-0. Stirling scored the first two goals and Jackson scored the third. Pochettino has managed to get the team to go out and play with confidence even if it is against newly promoted Luton Town.

The game played on Monday 21st August ended: Crystal Palace 0-1 Arsenal

BenCodie, please review your last few posts (including the ones where you have insulted respected members of the forum) and ask yourself if you have achieved anything constructive by using profanities and insults. I doubt it will help you when you put forward any argument to debate any matter in any walk of life therefore it should not help you here.

Also, would you like to re-think your post about you saying in your opinion you knew Whirlwind was a scam but you did two very interesting things. First, you did not post warnings about it (because you said you were not obliged to) and second, even though in your opinion it was a scam from the very beginning you did not hesitate to apply to join their signature campaign and you would have no problem with participating if you were selected.

That sort of conduct is shocking to say the least if you are stating you believed it was a scam but had no problem wanting to be part of their signature campaign.