self-moderated to keep this thread clean from trolls, attention-seekers and signature spammers

I have no idea what BenCodie was thinking when he created this drama under the guise of a rational thread to invite discussion. Here we see another example of somebody who has received a neutral tag and has decided to try to have it removed. What does he do? He decided to create a thread and dress it up as an outlet for intellectual debate when the intention was simply to gauge whether or not he could get some momentum behind him which (he hoped) would pressure me to removing a neutral tag.

Can you imagine that? All that effort, skulduggery and scheming on part of BenCodie for nothing except a neutral tag. Rather than post in that thread, I have created one to express sentiments regarding his obsession with the fact he received a neutral tag. I usually try not to respond to unnecessary drama or make threads to stipulate my position when it comes to members complaining about tags but once in a while someone comes along who seems to be posting directly, indirectly or subliminally in multiple threads making comments that can continue to be ignored or some response can be made. I have decided to post a response just for those that might be curious.

If (as expected) you read posts from BenCodie regarding the neutral feedback I left for him, this thread can be used a reference for those interested.

Apart from the above mentioned thread, I see he has been busy in other places, some links below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62782318#msg62782318
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62796140#msg62796140
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62800923#msg62800923
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62802613#msg62802613
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62803109#msg62803109
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62803861#msg62803861
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.msg62806038#msg62806038

What is clear, after he realised the comments he made in the Whirlwind thread including those when he insulted at least two very knowledgable members (after he stated he was convinced Whirlwind was a scam but applied to join their signature campaign because he did not want to miss out on the opportunity to get the weekly payouts), he tried repair the damage by posting anywhere while trying to get to that 1000 merit mark. Basically, I have no interest on whether he manages to get their or not but it obviously means a lot to him therefore the campaign against me started just because I left him a neutral tag.

After posting those unacceptable comments in the Whirlwind thread and then going on the offensive against some forum members and attacking/insulting them rather than being humble and withdraw his comments entirely, he allowed time to pass then sent this PM on 27th August 2023.  Still, full of pumping adrenalin and a larger-than-life-ego, he did not apologise but chose the I did not say that stance and has maintained it ever since.

For those that know me and have conversed with me via PM, you will attest to the fact I do reply. I think there have been just a handful of unsolicited PMs where I have not replied but the stance that he took in the PM was enough for me to not consider giving a reply, I thought it was highly condescending considering the fact it is the first (and only) time he sent a PM but you can come to your own conclusions.


For those not aware, I had to ask BenCodie several times to explain fully what he was stating when he stated he was convinced Whirlwind was a scam yet did not raise it with anybody and instead applied to join their signature campaign and not only that, he stated he did not feel it important to tell anybody. Those of us that read the posts in that thread know what he stated but I still hoped he would withdraw the comment because I did not want a drama such as this being created. Even though I did not leave a negative tag, the drama has still unfolded.

He is heading towards Legendary rank therefore that milestone could have played a part in this sudden burst of activity regarding the neutral tag. Yes ladies and gentleman, all this drama over a neutral tag. There was a trend when alt-accounts operated by account farmers were creating threads asking for negative tags to be removed but those days have long gone, it has been for far too long about neutral tags.

In a nutshell, BenCodie received a neutral tag for stating he was happy to take money from a signature campaign of a what he was convinced was a scam because he should not say no to money coming his way and because he did not feel the need to raise his concerns with those of us who thought they were promoting a genuine business.

Here are some ironies:

The first here that in retaliation for a neutral tag he has responded with an unwarranted and undeserved negative tag. Adding on to that, there are some trolls who have a habit of following me around (somewhat obsessively) and at least one of them has been reported to have added BenCodie to their trust list simply because he gave me negative feedback.

Some of the trolls have made fleeting comments but one of the trolls has even resorted on some previous occasions to posting all the names of those who have added me to their trust list effectively asking them to remove me by using some subtle and not-so-subtle mannerisms. How ironic (if true) that same member deliberately adds to his trust a second member who has given me negative trust purely on that basis and for no other reason therefore the troll is effectively pointing a neon sign on to himself asking to be excluded from members trust for applying incorrect use of the trust system. The irony.

Another irony in this situation is that BenCodie had (I believe but someone please correct me if I am wrong) given negative tag later revised to neutral to just two members of a seventeen member strong team of the bc.game signature campaign participants, on the basis the company allegedly had excessive scam accusations against them. With which logic did he apply by being an upstanding member of the community he can select 2 members from 17 to leave neutral tags. For obvious reasons the campaign manager (icopress) was not tagged because one day he might apply to join a campaign but what is not so obvious is why did he think 15 other members doing the same thing did not warrant the same tag. On the contrary, he supported icopress when he asked to be Merit Source

Another irony is that Shishir99 created a thread named Super High IQ BenCodie vs Low IQ forum posters about gambling. because the OP was condescending with his alleged higher IQ to those he concluded had lower IQ to him, therefore five days after the thread was created BenCodie left him a neutral tag for (effectively) daring to question him. How ironic he is upset that he has received a neutral tag from me.

Anyway, after several prompts from me, the OP decided to reply to my question about his disingenuous behaviour in the Whirlwind thread. After he semi-retracted with a "that is not what I said" comment rather than be humble and accept he made a mistake, I opted to leave a neutral tag **

I waited patiently for the OP to reply, if there was malice on my part I would have simply left a negative tag immediately. I gave multiple opportunities for him withdraw or retract his comment before placing the tag. From his side it seems it was a carefully thought out reason (related to signature campaigns, increasing to Legendary rank) which saw him semi-retract the comment but now he has tried to find ways of trying to have the neutral tag removed while citing even stronger than before that he never said this and never said that.

There is nothing wrong with my post but it did not warrant a reply from BenCodie:


The final irony is advice for myself and a suggestion for others to consider without prejudice. If any member posts they are happy to promote what they believe is a scam because all they want are payments (and they go on to apply/join what they believe are signature campaigns promoting scams and even go as far as to state it is not their job to effectively protect forum members by raising alarms and could not care less if forum members get scammed by services they promote), just tag them with negative trust when you see their post.

If it is not Poker Player being accused of contacting prospective clients telling them to not use his services and him allegedly losing business, it is now allegedly me causing lost business to him.

I guess the previous times set a precedent. Tags are placed but he wants them revised or removed and he gets them revised or removed therefore he thinks he can go after someone every few months trying to get a tag removed or revised. Narcissist is a word that immediately comes to mind.

First, if he chooses to revisit the Bitlucy scam then he should do it with complete honesty and not be selective in an attempt to show himself in a much better light considering what actually took place. As a gesture of goodwill, I will refrain from posting links to comments he made related to the Bitlucy scam.

Second, I am fairly sure he blamed someone else when he said (words to the effect of) previously he was down and out, depressed, suicidal even, before he miraculously recovered and came back to the forum and bombarded every ANN thread he could trying to manage their campaigns. He is now alleging I tried to destroy him. What a melodrama.

Third, the feedback I left was based purely on the fact he was self-proclaimed Co-Partner of Bitlucy as well as Marketing Director of Bitlucy and added to that he was also campaign manager too (and all the associated issues I will not post here) therefore to allude I left feedback for any reason other than his conduct within various roles at Bitlucy is absurd and is an attempt to misdirect from the facts.

Putting cap in hand trying to have members add or remove me from trust lists based on a campaign managers whim (while having the lure of signature campaign participation), is quite insulting. Can anybody here imagine any other campaign manager posting such complete and utter nonsense wrapped in a one-sided melodrama laden with deception all for the sake trying to use any means necessary to try to have a negative tag removed or to render it useless by way of trust exclusions? The two campaign managers that I hold in very high regard would never stoop that low.

Maybe sending a PM to discuss what he wanted to achieve would have been a better start than seeing him starting at gutter level with this thread. I could be wrong but it seems he opted for the latter because he is managing several campaigns and probably thinks he can exert influence over the majority of members who trust a member he does not like.

Regardless, if he had any decency he would have sent a PM to start a discussion in order to get an understanding of perspective from both sides but I guess arrogance and over-confidence was always part of his persona and it grew over time as his portfolio of campaigns increased. He contacted another member that left him negative feedback to discuss the issue but did not contact me, instead he jumped straight to creating this thread allowing a group of trolls working in tandem to post their propaganda whenever they get a chance.

Usually (but not always) when a scam allegation is made, the accuser misses out vital information which would/could cast doubt on the whole story. I am not sure what the OP was expecting but if he has gambled away his inheritance he only has himself to blame. He can claim he was scammed but without providing proof he really has nothing except his words. It must have affected him after he gambled and lost his inheritance.

Just think about that for a moment, how would you feel if you lost your entire inheritance to a gambling website? He is quite obviously messed up and will probably need a little time before he can cope with the magnitude of what he has done.

If it helps him at least he has learned a lesson and should not gambling at all if he cannot afford to lose what he is gambling. As sad as it is for him, I hope this experience will stay with him as a reminder to remain within limits when if he bets in future.

It was somewhat strange the OP tried to get free Bitcoins under the guise of testing what is/was wrong with his address. I think the lack of written English comprehension is part of the deception. Over the years many different tactics have been used to try to get others to part with their crypto and sometimes they have worked but now more and more people are careful. You cannot believe everything that is being posted.

It just goes to show how these scammers operate when they cannot remember to add a real/fake company name to their own ToS on their website. I think the name is being used by scammers without the consent of the actual real company. The website is showing 503 gateway error now therefore it seems the site has been removed but your archive links reveals the About Page shows them claiming to be "CRYPTO MINING SERVICES LIMITED" but the attached images are for "MINING COMPANY SERVICE LTD".

I have seen something like that in the past when scammers an image of the Certificate of Incorporation but (as you stated) it means nothing. These can be gained by registration online in a matter of minutes but to gullible people and newbies they could easily fall for the scam.

Yes, I think he should have accepted the VAR decision about the Garnacho goal being off-side but at the stage the score was still 1-1. The shot from Rice was deflected off Evans who was making his return to Manchester United and he was a late substitute therefore it must be hard for him to take. Arsenal look like they are beginning to find their rhythm again whereas Manchester United are not converting their chances.

The poll has 38 votes and the statistics are quite stunning:

Tyson         - 21 (55.3%)
Ngannou    - 17 (44.7%)

I am surprised at the number of members that have rated Ngannou to have a chance to cause an upset when he will be facing Tyson Fury in the ring. He might get some success within the fight here and there but it will be a big task for him to win.

I am sure that knowledge has already dawned upon the OP therefore he knew what he was doing when he created this thread. Now, if anybody does make the mistake of sending him anything they will encourage more scam behaviour.

His alt-account btcpepa04 tried a different technique to get free Bitcoin in 2017

Is this suggestion going to gain any traction or will it be dismissed entirely? If not limiting the number to "1" but limiting to a number that is accepted by consensus, is it an option? Another option is to cap the number of merits a member is allowed to give in a/that particular board.

If all those (and other) options are not feasible then there is another option: to do nothing and allow the status quo to continue in the Wall Observer thread.

Sometimes, it is possible for the most cautious person receiving the email to lower their guard and click the phishing mail. It is unfortunate but people do get drawn in to scams for one reason or another. If these types of scams were not profitable for the scammers they would probably stop and move on to other ways trying to scam.

The OP is clearly very upset but unfortunately for him he seems he is venting frustration in the wrong place. From what has been stated in the thread it seems he is in denial because he lost funds and now is looking at shifting the blame on to Stake. If Stake were manipulating outcomes or altering historical data, it would have been picked up by now.

Chelsea will have to come good at some point. There is far too much talent in that squad for them to not recover and let us not forget they are managed by Pochettino. His management skills will be enough to bring stability but he will need time.

Newcastle United have the chance to increase goal difference in their next game. West Ham United vs Manchester City, that will be the big game of the weekend.

Here is the Premier League table as it currently stands:

This has scam written all over it. If newbies and/or gullible people send money to the scammers, they will never see the money returned.

They do not mention any company LTD/LLC or anything else in their Terms and Conditions. Also, their website does not seem to have real social media links in their contact page either. They are showing a map on their contact page for a registered office address which can he rented but that name (CGMD Miner) is not registered at the company address.

There are far too many issues pointing to this being a scam therefore the flag is supported.

In all honesty it is seems clear to anybody reading it is a case of sarcasm rather than it being a compliment. Right now, how many members do you have registered on your club and how do you expect them to learn more about the elite club. They cannot contact you because you are not making it possible, it is almost as though that is your intention.

Does anybody have any contact with DarkStar_ outside of this forum? He has made no posts since 13th April 2023 and his last login was on 20th August 2023.

These are the full results of the games played over the weekend:

Saturday
Sheffield United 2-2 Everton
Brentford 2-2 Bournemouth
Burnley 2-5 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 0-1 Nottingham Forest
Manchester City 5-1 Fulham
Brighton and Hove Albion 3-1 Newcastle United

Sunday
Crystal Palace 3-2 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Liverpool 3-0 Aston Villa
Arsenal 3-1 Manchester United

Chelsea suffered a shock loss at home to Nottingham Forest. Manchester City look to like they have already won the Premier League. Arsenal won a game that Manchester United thought they had won. Liverpool are back playing with intensity. Tottenham are thriving without Kane. Welcome to another season in the Premier League 

That is effectively what he is stating. They have literally nothing but are seeking $77 to join a Telegram group which will give the group members benefits they have not yet explained.

Therefore this is akin to a ponzi or pyramid scheme and all of this simply for a you never gona be alone with your problems club? Who will fall for this money wasting exercise. There is no website, no advertising and no email address therefore you are using Telegram to fool people in to parting with $77?

I suppose Hhampuz would be the only person to answer the question. Maybe he will post the answer. The problem we face is we just do not know what the facts behind the case are.

The similarities between the Tornado Cash and Whirlwind websites was shown in an image some pages back therefore the connection cannot be ruled out but there is no evidence to connect them either. This is all very baffling.

I have just had a look at the campaign sheets, he definitely has been removed yet he is still posting (his last post was yesterday) and he was wearing the Rollbit signature. Even at that stage account farmers have hope that if they keep posting a couple of times a week they keep the account active and it might have value in future.

He did not post here once using the Lordhermes account after the account was accused of being part of massive farm. If some accounts go back to over a decade it would mean the account farmer has operated these accounts for a long time. If he has not created them, he has hacked or purchased them.

That would then raise the question (and conspiracy theories) about what happened to the owner/operator of Whirlwind if he was that upright. He was knowledgable and that was noticed from the manner in which he was posting. The whole episode is confusing.