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1161  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: August 15, 2023, 03:42:22 PM
It does not look good at all when the Cloudbet forum representative has not logged in since 9th January 2023. It virtually demonstrates they have given up as far as their involvement in the forum is concerned. You have locked your thread therefore it is not possible to post there but at least you managed to withdraw $10,000 yesterday.

The remaining $30,000 is still pending according to your last post. Hopefully you will receive all outstanding funds soon.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5463005.0
I hope my patience can be exchanged for the smooth withdrawal and support of the cloudbet team
1162  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 15, 2023, 03:10:17 PM
As far as the unprofessional behaviour is concerned, you are absolutely right. If they're continuing to accept deposits from people in full knowledge they cannot mix and return the funds then they should not be doing it. Also, if they were unable to give certain staff members permission to put that information on the website to temporarily stop deposits, it is another thing they will be able to look at to ensure it does not happen again.

Hopefully they will post here with a comment when they have time.

Excellent news, thank you for letting us know.
Yeah, that's really good news, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. We still don't have any official word on what's happening with the service. And from what I know, there's still no confirmation that the withdrawals are actually working.

There's no sign of any notifications or warnings on their website, and if I start the mixing process, the system will give me a deposit address. So basically, Whirlwind is still accepting deposits from people like everything's cool. But they know their system is down and you can't take out any money. Honestly, that's pretty messed up and unprofessional behavior for a business.
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 15, 2023, 11:33:23 AM
Here is the first look at the Premier League table after the first set of games of the opening weekend:




Here are the full results for the games that took place in the opening weekend of the new Premier League season:

Friday 11th August 2023
Burnley 0-3 Manchester City

Saturday 12th August 2023
Arsenal 2-1 Nottingham Forest  
Bournemouth 1-1 West Ham United  
Brighton and Hove Albion 4-1 Luton Town  
Everton 0-1 Fulham  
Sheffield United 0-1 Crystal Palace  
Newcastle United 5-1 Aston Villa


Sunday 13th August 2023
Brentford 2-2 Tottenham Hotspur  
Chelsea 1-1 Liverpool


Monday 14th August 2023
Manchester United 1-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers
1164  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 15, 2023, 11:22:35 AM
Excellent news, thank you for letting us know.

I got an email back from whirlwind just now and it was as I suspected - something happened.

Basically, main people lost access due to travels while people still with access didn't have the right credentials to solve basic issues that caused withdraws to get stuck on the back-end. I've been assured that nothing has been lost and that all will be taken care of tomorrow meaning all currently pending withdraws will be processed and things return back to normal. It was an unfortunate situation is all!

I've asked my contact at whirlwind to reply in this thread whenever they can with further details, so from now until then/tomorrow night there is no need to panic even if I wouldn't recommend you to deposit until the backlog is cleared. Campaign participants will also be paid out as per usual tomorrow, regardless of if you've removed your signature or not.
1165  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 14, 2023, 06:09:39 PM
I cannot speak for others but that seems the course of action you have undertaken is probably the best move considering the circumstances. The Whirlwind team have put a lot of effort as well as finances into their mixing project therefore I am also hopeful there is no malicious intent on their part. Hopefully they will post here or send you an email with an update.

I've put the campaign on hold for the time being, but I remain hopeful that this is due to something other than malicious intent. For now I would advise against depositing or even generating a new note on whirlwind. If you have a balance, save it down somewhere but don't withdraw the funds from it (since nothing is being processed you'd likely run a higher risk of it getting "lost"). Sucky situation and I do wonder what might have happened, the next few days will hopefully clear it up.
1166  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 14, 2023, 05:33:45 PM
Keeping that aside for a moment, we do not know if the problem is a withdrawal issue is down to signature campaign participants trying to withdraw funds or whether clients using the website for mixing are sending funds but are getting nothing back. There do not seem to be claims of the latter therefore it could be confined to signature campaign participants only. It still would not make it right or acceptable of-course but it would narrow the problem.
I'm a customer. I made a small deposit this morning and still haven't received anything back (with 0 hours delay on withdrawal).  Angry

I made the rookie mistake of not checking this thread earlier. I assumed everything was fine with the service. Maybe it's worth considering a temporary pause on the signature campaign and taking down all the signatures until things get sorted. If things work out, no harm done, but just in case they might pull an exit scam, it's better to stop the promotion sooner rather than later.
Thank you for the confirmation that the problem is far bigger. It is not just affecting withdrawals from signature campaign participants, it is affecting customers who want to mix. I am sorry your funds were not delivered even though you selected 0 hours, hopefully they will sort this issue out and it will not be a worrying situation related to an exit-scam. With $40,000 DAI in escrow I am inclined to believe there is not exit scam but time will tell.

I agree with the dude above.

We should stop to advertise a service that doesn't work, it's not like if the problems are here since only yesterday.
If he posted something, we could know what's going on but there's nothing.

We shouldn't wait to have a thousand of users complaining.
Without a doubt I agree. Some of us stake our forum reputation on companies and businesses using our avatars and signature space therefore the appropriate course of action has to be to stop promoting them.

As hoped, if they clarified what happened and how they rectified (or intend to rectify) it, I hope their signature campaign would continue and I would like to be a part of it. If customers and clients are not able to use the Whirlwind service it means it should probably not be promoted until/unless we understand more.

(edit: I've removed the signature on post #15600)
1167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The Significance of Independence Day: 14 August Independence day of Pakistan ' on: August 14, 2023, 05:31:45 PM
Once again, happy independence day to those celebrating.

At the least thread has been moved away from Meta and Reputation to Off-topic where it probably should have been from the moment it was created.

It stands to reason because signature campaign participants usually have posts in Off-topic not counted towards their quota for pay, it is safe to say the purpose of the thread is defeated in more ways than one.

It seems to be a new trend. It's time for all the patriots in their countries to celebrate holidays on the branch of reputation. But what about other users? Are these countries somehow connected to Bitcoin? I agree with you that it is more correct to celebrate all holidays that belong exclusively to local sections there.
But, OP, the country is proud of a patriot like you! I would never have known when Pakistan celebrated its holiday if not for you. Grin
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 14, 2023, 12:30:16 PM
Well, Lukaku was in demand several years ago. He had a line of clubs chasing his signature because he was doing well. Somehow, after he proved himself at Inter Milan he was targeted by Chelsea and it seems Tuchel did not want him. It must have been the technical directors who wanted Lukaku at Chelsea. Since then went on a spectacular collapse in goal scoring and form. He could have end up at Juventus according to reports but the latest is that now Tottenham are interested in making an offer. I think Pochettino should avoid buying him.

As for Kane, I cannot his see career going in the same direction as Lukaku. He's even going as far to say he on a journey that has not ended and he would like to return to the Premier League and break the record set by Shearer.

I would have comfortably shown Lukaku as one of the best a few centre-forwards in the world 3 years ago. However I don't think he can reach that level from now on. I think Tottenham should absolutely look for other alternatives.
1169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "The Significance of Independence Day: 14 August Independence day of Pakistan ' on: August 14, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
I am enjoying my happy independence day. And I value to all countries flag because these give identification to country people.
Flags represent the pride of each country.
Happy Independence Day. I am happy you are enjoying celebrating but I have to agree with Rikafip.

I honestly see no point of having this topic in Meta as it doesn't have to do anything with the forum. Since its Pakistan independence day, it makes sense to celebrate it in your own local board and not here.
As far as the forum itself is concerned, what is the significance of having an independence day celebration post in Meta (where it was originally placed) or in Reputation where it was moved. Surely the appropriate place for this thread would be the local Pakistan board that has been advocated for quite some time: Request: New Local Board for Pakistan (Urdu)
1170  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 14, 2023, 10:59:16 AM
This is worrying because tomorrow is the day signature campaign participants are due to be paid. I hope everything will be fine (and a simple post or update will make it easier for worried members to rest).

Keeping that aside for a moment, we do not know if the problem is a withdrawal issue is down to signature campaign participants trying to withdraw funds or whether clients using the website for mixing are sending funds but are getting nothing back. There do not seem to be claims of the latter therefore it could be confined to signature campaign participants only. It still would not make it right or acceptable of-course but it would narrow the problem.

I did read an earlier post where they were going to roll out updates therefore this could have possibly coincided with it. Either way, if they have not replied to emails and requests to post here then it is will mean signature campaign participants will remain confused and anxious.

I think regardless of what we think has happened, Whirlwind should at the very least post here as soon as possible to explain the facts and what they will do to rectify whatever has gone wrong.

I made a withdrawal of 0.025 BTC yesterday afternoon (like you with 0 hours delay) and so far nothing. Did you get the money, or email reply yet?

The last outgoing transcation is still from the 9th August:
https://www.blockchain.com/de/explorer/addresses/btc/bc1qf8h5k6sash8007vpesymxkw2xsg5d0r3j4l5vmcrwpz2pqu66fjstzgd3r

I have not received a reply to my e-mail (I asked them to reply here on bitcointalk though).
1171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 13, 2023, 09:15:39 PM
I have no doubt Tottenham fans will be upset and feeling said at losing their captain but they would never stand in his way after he joined them at 11 years old and leaves them at 30 years old.

At the very least Tottenham fans will have the satisfaction their manager will have a large chunk of the money they received for Kane to spend on new players. It seems the £100 million will be £86 million in advance and £14 million with add-ons.

Harry Kane's move to Bayern Munich is one that will keep Totthenham Hurtspur's fans sad because they have lost their best player and they won't find anyone that can take his place immediately.Son is till there but Kane's contribution is one that we just cant forget in a short while.The whole premier league will miss him because he was the only one competing fiercely with Haaland who have gotten two goals already this season.It is a big loss for them,and maybe their coach will start looking for a striker that will take his place and do exactly what he was doing,if they don't find one in this transfer window,maybe they will find one by next season. We wish him the best of luck and more trophies at his new club.
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 13, 2023, 08:07:21 PM
The results of the first weekend of the new Premier League 2023/23 season  Grin

Friday 11th August 2023
Burnley 0-3 Manchester City

Saturday 12th August 2023
Arsenal 2-1 Nottingham Forest  
Bournemouth 1-1 West Ham United  
Brighton and Hove Albion 4-1 Luton Town  
Everton 0-1 Fulham  
Sheffield United 0-1 Crystal Palace  
Newcastle United 5-1 Aston Villa


Sunday 13th August 2023
Brentford 2-2 Tottenham Hotspur  
Chelsea 1-1 Liverpool


Only one game remains, that is Manchester United vs Wolverhampton Wanderers which is the evening kick-off tomorrow.

Manchester City, Arsenal and Newcastle United came through with wins but Tottenham (without Kane), Chelsea and Liverpool managed draws. A winner of the Chelsea vs Liverpool game would sent a strong signal to the rest of the Premier League about intent but it ended in a draw.
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 12, 2023, 09:44:46 AM
It is official

Kane has joined Bayern Munich for £100 million which is £86 million in advance and £14 million in add-ons.

This is a massive statement from the Bundesliga because it is their highest ever transfer buy and they have told the world they have purchased a Premier League proven goalscorer who is also the captain of the English national team. This transfer is going down in German footballing history because of the fee paid.



Caicedo told Liverpool and Klopp he does not want to play for them and that was humiliating for them, Liverpool have started looking at other players. It leaves Chelsea as the only team remaining in the chase. Caicedo wants to play for Chelsea and Pochettino but the £115 million they are preparing to bid for him is excessive. He is not worth it but Brighton are trying to get every pound out of it.
1174  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 12, 2023, 12:20:15 AM
With what has happened recently, it might be a good idea for them to start considering the option (or at least something similar). If the end goal would be to bring a better customer service experience, then it would go a long way to achieving that. Paying a small amount to have an active member in the forum would alleviate some the concerns members could have (if answers were posted sooner).

Regarding the delay in replying, I alerted them to the necessity of having an active member (if they do not have time,) these things will not cost them much (less than 200 dollars per month) but their effect will be better.
1175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 11, 2023, 11:35:53 PM
He is exactly the number six Liverpool needed. The midfield will reach a high level with caicedo- szoboszlai- mac allister. They finally fixed the midfield (although the rotation midfielders are still a bit inadequate). The defense needs a similar revamp, but I can't say anything since I don't know what the budget is at the moment. Although I don't like the attacking line either, unlike the majority, but it seems to be ok to carry on this year. I think Liverpool should bring in a top quality stopper to replace Van Dijk who is now 32 years old. Instead of Van Dijk they should slowly warm up Konate who is only 24 years old. Klopp knows how to do this and he can do it, but whether the stingy management will open the purse is unknown.
Liverpool are looking like they are building up a squad capable of mounting a serious challenge for the Premier League. I would expect Arsenal, Chelsea and Manchester United to chase Manchester City but if Liverpool is added to the group, it looks more interesting for the season ahead Grin
1176  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 11, 2023, 10:05:03 AM
Now the issue has been raised here in this ANN thread maybe Whirlwind will post here soon with an update including the missing daily rewards. To this point only two participants of the signature campaign mentioned missing anonymity mining rewards. If others calculate their balance and find themselves short they should also post about it.

The system Whirlwind have created seems to work very well. Their onion site doesn't suffer like their clearnet (which is under constant DDoS) and their service give users anonymity. The only problems are related to correct anonymity mining rewards and poor email customer services. I am sure they will explain in detail when they post again.

In isolation, if you look at the bigger picture their email support does not seem to be to a high level and an explanation is needed about the 12% APR for anonymity mining therefore apart from these two issues there do not seem to be any complaints and that is a good sign.

Indeed, there were no other complaints so far about them, excepting the mining rewards and the lack of support... At same time, I don't know if the problem with the daily rewards is a systemic one (meaning if I did not get the rewards in a specific day then all 566 depositors also did not get their rewards or a random one (meaning that only a few random users out of all 566 depositors did not get their rewards in a specific day).

If the problem is systemic then it's a bigger one. Imagine that all those 566 depositors would be supposed to receive 2000 sats in a day. If the problem affects them all, then this is a missing payment of 2000 sats x 566 users = 0.0132 BTC, which is a serious amount. Now if such problem occurs 10 times in a month, the mount goes up to 0.132 BTC. And so on.

Obviously, we can't know what amounts in daily rewards are supposed to be paid to the depositors, but I just gave an example.
1177  Economy / Services / Re: Typing job on: August 10, 2023, 09:56:36 PM
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1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2023/2024 on: August 10, 2023, 02:36:23 PM
Tottenham and Bayern Munich are in deep talks and have agreed a price to sell Kane. The rest is up to Bayern Munich and Kane to agree personal terms. It looks like it will be confirmed today either way but rumours are that Kane will stay and see his contract expire at the end of the season and then walk away from the club. That way he will get a huge signing-on fee and Tottenham will receive nothing.



Incidentally, Mbappe has told PSG he will not be leaving this summer and will leave the club as a free agent when his contract expires in July 2024. Rumours are that a deal has already been done with Real Madrid between Mbappe and Real Madrid. PSG accepted £258 million from Saudi Pro League Al-Hilal but Mbappe has refused to move. He has been dropped from the first team and will probably never play for PSG again and will sit out the whole season by training on his own and not playing even for the reserve side.

Rather than pay Mbappe every week for sitting there and doing nothing for the whole season, they could loan him out and Liverpool were touted as an option but Mbappe has made it clear he will stay in Paris and see out his contract. If the rumours are true, he will receive one of the biggest ever football contracts in history because theoretically all the money it would take to buy him from PSG could be spent on paying him a signing-on fee and his inflated salary.



Liverpool have entered the race to sign Caicedo but Brighton are not budging from their demand of £100 million. It is unbelievable they are demanding that much for a player they paid £4.5 million to buy in the January 2021 transfer window.

1179  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] Whirlwind.money | ⚡No Fee⚡ | Ultimate Privacy | Anonymity Mining 12% APR🔥 on: August 10, 2023, 01:04:33 PM
^This is my main problem.

Since I joined this anonymity mining campaign I never cashed out anything from my note. And, after first 2-3 weeks, when I admit that I did not check thoroughly everyday my balance for observing if I received or not the daily reward, after that I started doing it on a daily basis.

However, I started doing it on a daily basis because I believe that during first weeks I did not always receive the daily reward. However, since I can not say that I checked properly, I am also not 100% sure about this. But after this while I checked my balance everyday, I wrote down the existing balance, I checked in the next day if my balance was bigger and with what amount and I also checked if that amount was correct.

I noticed some irregularities since I started doing this.
In the beginning of their anonymity mining I used to leave the balance of the campaign in the Whirlwind account for days. If I remember correctly it seems fractionally more than it should have been therefore I presumed the anonymity mining was working correct. I did not calculate to see 12% APR added but for a long time I started withdrawing the same day I receive payment therefore cannot say if the APR being paid is correct.

I hope Whirlwind come back here and respond directly to the irregularities comment.

On June 14th I wrote to Whirlwind and I kindly asked them to check in which days I did not receive the rewards between May 17th (the day I joined the anonymity campaign) and June 14th. They told me that they make manual payments and this is why some errors appear but they always resolve them -- so, in case the person in charge with the payments forgot to pay you today then tomorrow you will get a double payment. This was not always happening.

They also told me that they will make this check for the rewards I received until then and they'll come back with a report. The report was not sent until current day.

Excepting that, since that day I kept emailing them each time when the daily reward was not sent again. Their last reply to my emails was on June 25th. Since then I emailed them 5 more times, informing that the daily reward was not sent again but they never replied anymore. I also asked in some of these emails how much it's going to take until they'll come with that report. Since they never replied anymore, I also have no idea about that.

In any case, this problem is not a singular. I know other forum users which also did not receive their daily rewards or which did not receive the right amounts.

Right now, this is the second consecutive day when the daily reward is not sent. I guess that if WhirlWind wants to act in a professional manner, first of all they should be more present on the forum and also be supportive when customers ask for their help through emails...
This is disappointing to read because Whirlwind really should have responded to emails whether or not they posted here. It does of-course help if they are present here too but as long as the service is up and running (and they are responding to emails in a timely fashion) there regular presence here is not essential unless there are announcements to be made.

Again, I hope Whirlwind post here with an explanation as to why their email support response was lacking appropriate urgency. As well as that, I hope they make a statement about what is happening with their anonymity mining and the 12% APR.

In isolation, if you look at the bigger picture their email support does not seem to be to a high level and an explanation is needed about the 12% APR for anonymity mining therefore apart from these two issues there do not seem to be any complaints and that is a good sign.
1180  Economy / Reputation / Re: loginsam45 and his alleged alt-accounts: ltcrstrbrt, GigaBit and bluedeep on: August 09, 2023, 05:59:57 PM
I checked your feedback page right after reading this post and couldn't find what I was looking for. But anyways, I have a logical explanation that may make sense. User loginsam45 posted several times saying he had several forum accounts, and now he is asking for help from forum members. This is why Jollygood created this thread and wanted to help loginsam45.
I could have responded to him myself had he not been on my ignore list. The troll he has evolved in to over the past couple of years is not worth feeding.

Can you help me get my accounts back if I share the names of my accounts?

Yes you are right I am not new in this forum. I had many accounts in this forum but they are no longer under my control. My close friend cheated me and took the accounts for which I don't have high rank account now. For which I am posting with this newbie account. I have been back to the forum for three days.

It's been almost 20 days, but loginsam45 does not have enough evidence that those are his accounts. You would also think like this JollyGood is trying to help loginsam45, but you didn't for some reason. I have seen many accurate feedback from JollyGood, but I won't say he is always right.
I am human, I make mistakes and I try to rectify them as and when possible. The same applies to my activities within this forum, I am not perfect, I have not come across any single member that is. You are right I was trying to get to the bottom of the allegation loginsam45 made but with him going absent it is not easy to understand what happened or understand what is going on. He provided some evidence to one of this claims but he did not provide anything of substance on his claim against the Gigabit account. He was active in the forum yesterday but as usual did not make a post. His last post was on 21st July 2023 in this thread. If loginsam45 does not show up here with evidence, I will lock the thread.
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