If I had any funds there I would withdraw them as soon as possible when they open up withdrawels... There is likely to be a massive bank run after they open up again and seeing how only bitcoin are missing, they have limited coins available to handle the withdrawels (unless they start buying them with the fiat they hold, which is possible as also fiat holdings get a haircut). Let alone potential law suits and bankrupcy around the corner.. get those funds out..
After that, the only thing you can do is hope the placeholder coins somehow turn into something of value over the coming years to lessen the blow.
To the ones saying bitfenix should take the loss.. That will probably result in a mt. gox situation where the people still don't have their coins after 2 years... I would rather have 70% of my coins now than a chance for more after a looooong process..
Times like these just make me so glad I'm no one of those naive newbies that get into these Ponzi / exchanges. There will ALWAYS be another hack or inside job. Get out of exchanges and stay out!
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If you want to spend a btc most of the time you need to turn it into cash. You need an exchange .
And btc won't fork to stop a big theft.
So even if you keep a hundred coins on your safe client every exchange to cash involves a risk.
And that is completely to fault of btc. Since as shown by eth and etc a large theft can be stopped.
The only people that's a flaw for is people who keep bitcoins or any other cryptocurrency on an exchange. It's been said a million times but let's say it again just for the hell of it: All exchanges will get hacked. There's no telling when. Also don't use online wallets for the same reasons. It may seem like common sense to most of us but for some reason people (obviously mostly newbies) keep money on these shady sites. I don't care how legitimate a site is. Will you insure up to $100,000 in bitcoins if your funds get stolen? No? Then you're a shady piece of shit company. Go to hell. More people need to have that mentality but who cares, if you lost money then you clearly haven't read up on bitcoin history. If you did read up and thought it wouldn't happen to you, you're even more naive.
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Hahaha this is hilarious. Hey OP! Do you know what bitcoins are? They're the exact opposite of what you're describing in your OP. My advice would be to lock the thread now before you need to make a new account (as no one likes to deal with a person with negative trust) Basically what you're asking for is a short term loan and we pay you interest. Omg that's just so funny. Who the hell are you? Why should we trust you, let alone pay you to hold our coins that we can hold ourselves for FREE? I have a secure computer with a bitcoin-wallet installed, password protected - I connect normally with my Skrill, Neteller accounts & my blogs admin - Never got my accounts hacked.
Oh thank God. I thought you were using an insecure laptop that you roam around looking for free WiFi on hahaha. Oh and you've never been hacked? I guess that means you'll never be hacked right? Why wouldn't I just use my own methods that are a HELL of a lot more secure than yours rofl? I've never died before, gotten a speeding ticket before and never had a wrinkle on my forehead before so I'm in for a great life.
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With the debt crises in the eurozone, bitcoiners have been advocating the use of bitcoin in place of fiat. I don't think that will solve the problem on ground, people will always borrow money whether cash or bitcoins. What do you think?
It's hard to borrow bitcoins because if you borrow say, a mortgage of 200,000 and bitcoins triple, sure you may have paid 10,000 bit you now owe 590,000 and the house is still not worth anything close to that. For short-term loans it's fine (depending on the time period) because it's usually fairly predictable in the sense that a normal swing is about 10%. It's when places get hacked or there's a lot of price speculation assuming it's going to go in because of X, Y, and Z, you have issues with repayment. Now if you loan bitcoins, but based on a USD / Euro amount, you yourself ar at risk because if the prices go up you might as well have just held onto your bitcoins!
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
Lololol and you thought untrusted feedback was pissing you off? My word Vod is going to have an earful of newbie ranting now (what else is new eh?) Hope you learned your lesson OP! Let us know what your new account name is so we can get it painted red ASAP kthxbai.
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Alright I'll do $300 with no escrow. Let me know when I should PM you my address and once I get the laptop, see if it's stolen and test it / scan it I'll send you the bitcoins.
PM me ASAP! This is a limited time deal!
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Hello I am wondering what is best wallet for windows vista.Do you have to download full block chain also?
Thanks
Windows Vista?! Well there's something you don't see every day. That was out WAY before bitcoin time. I would suggest bitcoin core or electrum, depending on a few different things. Mainly, your room on your hard drive, speed and of course if these are even available for Vista. I'd have to assume they are but I mean, come on, it's time to treat yourself to an upgrade. My GOD how I hated Vista.
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$99 cost of Trezor is cheap for security you get. If you are really on a budget the new Ledger Nano S is only $64 on Amazon.
$0.001 for a piece of paper is much cheaper and I can make infinite paper wallets that will never fail. Want better security? Hide them really well, encrypt them, keep them somewhere only you ever can/will go. Paper wallets are just so easy and cheap compared to $99.
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After this bitfinex hack...I decided it was time for cold storage...I had a lot of bitcoins sitting on coinbase wallet...I set up trezor this morning and moved my bitcoin....easy to setup and use...now I can relax.I will just use coinbase to buy and sell bitcoins but not to store bitcoins.
Good job! Never go back to holding anything you care about on an exchange contact that you'll need to at this point obviously). I personally like paper wallets because they're cheap (and I'm cheap , so it was an obvious fit) and you can hide them anywhere (like in a little barrel around your dog's neck, or under the wing of a plane).
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Is it possible to get the list of txids that funded a particular address from the bitcoin-cli? I've had a peek at
listreceivedbyaddress (Seems like this should be the one but I can't pass in an address?) listTransactions (seems only for accounts and since I'm not using these this doesn't help), validateaddress( no obvious info relating to txids ) getreceivedbyaddress ( returns only a balance which isn't enough information)
To just have a list pop up somewhere? No... Bu you can do t leg-work. You should be able to create a bot that could scrape this info from a block explorer. I don't know of anyone that has already created one though. Why, if you don't mind me asking, would you need to see each TXID for funding a certain account? Sounds like you've got some detective work ahead of you
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Are these still available? If so I'm interested. Send me a PM. I didn't see anyone else that had done . Trade yet on this thread so figured I would give it a shot!
I'd also like to do this ongoing as you said in the OP.
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Hi guys, buying btc at preev+10-15% rate. I have $100 funds available on paypal, but can exchange as low as $1. Quick and smooth trades. Can go first with certain members, other than that will use escrow, unless you want to go first.
Why would someone go through the effort of escrow when you can just reverse your PayPal payment up to 180 days later? You're still very new here so why should we trust you? Do you have a good reputation buying bitcoins with PayPal on another website?
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Rofl could you please explain how you stack an address? They aren't tangible like a jenga peice or a brick.
stack/stak/ noun a pile of objects, typically one that is neatly arranged. a chimney, especially one on a factory, or a vertical exhaust pipe on a vehicle. verb arrange (a number of things) in a pile, typically a neat one. shuffle or arrange (a deck of cards) dishonestly so as to gain an unfair advantage. (in snowboarding) fall over.
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Um... Yes! Obviously if you mix 120k bitcoins all at once it would be fairly obvious where they went but if you did small random numbers ( say, 10.8BTC, with 0.628% fee an 19.473 BTC with a 0.5976% fee, then yeah, it would be fairly hard for people to actually find out who you are. There will always be people analyzing but you may get most of your coins out of the public's eye.
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it will be great if banks can adopt the blockchain technology but it is impossible for them to do so because they can not show their transactions to everyone and then will never let anyone see each others balance
No, Banks dont need to adopt the blockchain technology because this will make the bank accounts anonymous. How about the government accounts ? What will happen to them ? How to know if this government officials are corrupting the country ? We need to know all the transactions of all the banks in a country and we need to know whos can be punished or not. And bitcoin will always be anonymous no matter what. The blockchain does not make the banks account anonymous. The banks can correlate the account and user. Lol this exactly. Is your account number 1234567 anonymous right now? Nope. Neither is your bitcoin address. If you don't know who is behind the address it's still not anonymous as you can follow the transactions. Anonymous would be people passing around a paper wallet and never actually spending it on the blockchain.
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Well I went ahead and read the gist of it.
Sure I'll do $300 in BTC with escrow. Which one would you like to use? Obviously you're concerned about the price of an escrow so don't worry, I'll pay the 1% fee.
May I also ask, where did you steal get this from?
Or if we're talking no escrow I'll offer.... A fart in the mouth and my left baby toenail.
Disclaimer: Farts are very hard to ship. You may end up with just a lingering smell.
Thanks in advance!
I'm more concerned about waiting for my money, not so much about the fee. It's really not that hard to understand; but you can have it at the originally quoted price with Escrow absolutely I'll pay for the fastest shipping money can buy. Don't worry about it. Get it to me overnight man. Where are you shipping from?
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Well I went ahead and read the gist of it. Sure I'll do $300 in BTC with escrow. Which one would you like to use? Obviously you're concerned about the price of an escrow so don't worry, I'll pay the 1% fee. May I also ask, where did you steal get this from? Or if we're talking no escrow I'll offer.... A fart in the mouth and my left baby toenail. Disclaimer: Farts are very hard to ship. You may end up with just a lingering smell.Thanks in advance! People are really not that stupid here, honestly.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Lol nice name... call me Rekcahxfbotluftaerg 1B3AuMBEuA7GN4AHAqQKVsLhvo8qYyenQk
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-8.3 would be the best number I have a feeling if I don't win I'll have been very close! I'd have to assume it's going to be somewhere around -8% or -9% with the current trends.
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Theres no doubt in my mind that banks will implement some form of "blockchain technology" but it wont be bitcoin obviously. They are too late to actually buy up and use bitcoin and i doubt they would even like a decentralised approach. their blockchain would be integral to their chain of banks only probably and i doubt the end user would get any benefits over the current system they use.
Exactly this. It would save the banks money. That's the only reason they would be interested. They're going to be using a centralized version of bitcoin based on their ever-failing fiat. Who knows how that's going to work our for miner's fees though. I guess if you can Stanly make new money then there's always going to be miner's fees (paid solely to the bank of course).
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