I'm not sure if its intentional or not but you continue to shift the discussion away from the system and onto me personally. My goal is not to help myself financially. I don't understand why you keep talking about that. I already have too much. My goal is to have a system where everyone has opportunity to develop regardless of the situation they are born into. This goal being fulfilled would actually hurt me financially because I would no longer have the competitive advantage of having all of these things from birth. Things that most people in the world have to work really hard just to have a chance at obtaining.
Its not even a good straw man to say I am envious of rich people. Envious means you want what someone has for yourself. Wanting what someone has to be spread amongst the less fortunate is far from envy. At worst, I'm a hypocrite for continuing to participate in a system I've realized as evil. That'd at least be an argument that makes sense.
No I don't think workers would all become entrepreneurs but they would all have a chance and more importantly they would all have a chance to give their kids food, shelter, medicine, and education. I don't think thats too much to ask. At that point, then I wouldn't care how much wealth was accumulated at the top because everyone would already have a chance. Its only the idea that we can't afford basic services for all children that makes billionaires evil.
I don't teach for the money. That would be a sad way to live and luckily I'm privileged enough to thrive in this bullshit system. The only thing hindering my happiness is living with the guilt of all I've stolen through passive income. I teach to help fulfill my goal of changing the world. The privileged kids I teach will grow up to have all of the power in the world and their education will influence them to make ethical decisions. I'm sure things will change because the young generation is growing up aware of the externalized costs of capitalism. Prices aren't low and profits aren't being made. They are simply being stolen from people in other places and times. The kids are onto it and the upcoming disasters will expose the scam of capitalism.
Stop advocating forced redistribution of wealth. Taking the property of others to redistribute is not charity, it is theft. Its really easy to be generous with other people's resources. Maybe you should put your money where your mouth is and take a vow of poverty and give all your shit away, then maybe I will bother to take you seriously. Until then go fuck yourself Comtard. |
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Even if it is a viable case, do you truly think that the US government is going to go after a company that they're practically in bed with. Google helps the US government with pretty much any and every investigation they have. I think it's practically confirmed at this point that the NSA pays google to help them spy on people.
Plus -- google donates large deals of money to politicians and political parties, making an investigation into them a political problem as well.
Eh?
Its hard to say, but one thing to consider is they are reaching levels of power surpassing national governments. If they are going to do it, it will be sooner rather than later. I think what is most likely is they will use this as leverage to put a leash on them and bring them deeper into the government's purview. True. It might even be fair to say that the US government might have already done this to some US companies already. Pretty much saying that they'll allow them to control their monopoly and continue to grow, but they have to be at the whim of the US government. Which is a pretty easy thing to say yes to. Technocratic fascism FTW. |
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Even if it is a viable case, do you truly think that the US government is going to go after a company that they're practically in bed with. Google helps the US government with pretty much any and every investigation they have. I think it's practically confirmed at this point that the NSA pays google to help them spy on people.
Plus -- google donates large deals of money to politicians and political parties, making an investigation into them a political problem as well.
Eh?
Its hard to say, but one thing to consider is they are reaching levels of power surpassing national governments. If they are going to do it, it will be sooner rather than later. I think what is most likely is they will use this as leverage to put a leash on them and bring them deeper into the government's purview. |
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This is more of what I meant. The Chinese government is the problem, they've forced the Chinese people to work under horrible conditions, be paid nothing, giving companies pretty much all of the power in China, and have stripped them of basically every human right.
Illegals in the US have more rights then regular everyday people in China. That's truly saying something.
Hopefully the protests in HK spark anger all across China -- though I don't think it's going to happen.
I personally understand what you meant, but I think it is important to be explicit, especially since a significant language barrier is involved. The people of China need to understand this is not an attack upon their nation if they are to feel enabled to resist the CCP. This is the CCP's primary strategy to rile up nationalism and cast foreigners as wanting to attack the nation itself rather than its criminal leadership. I don't think most of the mainland Chinese will be as much pissed over what is happening in Hong Kong, as they will see it as an example that resistance is possible. However when China's economy inevitably falters, they will in fact be pissed and be motivated to resist, and that is when the lessons learned in Hong Kong will become more important. China is a great nation with lots of gifted people, but its culture has long been festering under the rule of the CCP. China needs to bury the CCP and grow out of its corpse into the beautiful and strong tree it was always destined to be. Without a doubt fair, we wouldn't want any of our Chinese friends on the board thinking that we're demonizing them when we're not. So that's something that I without a doubt think is fair to be explicit about. I just don't see a way for the CCP to fall with the people under their thumb as they are now. It's not something that's going to be easy, and the people are going to need the support of other nations to allow for them to takeover the gov and be replaced with a Democratically elected one. That's not an easy task -- and regime change always brings about the chance of a power vacuum and violence. One critical point to keep in mind is China's economy is currently largely based on fraud and fake numbers. The CCP is a mafia. In order to keep criminal cartels functional, the spice must flow. With the world economy faltering, the world waking up to China's bad behavior, and the trade wars lead by Trump, this is putting the CCP in a very untenable position. As the fraud there in China becomes more evident, the people are going to be increasingly unwilling to cooperate with the CCP. I am of the opinion that it is only a matter of time before the CCP falls, and once that happens, then China will become the world's economic powerhouse and displace the USA in this role, largely with international blessings. |
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WSJ/NBC poll ? Yeah, I'm sure that polled an equal amount of the country's beliefs.
A recent poll in Hustler magazine revealed that men like to look at boobs.
A recent poll in The Vatican news reveled that no one looks at boobs.
What the heck do you think you'd get out of a WSJ/NBC poll. 90% of their audience is liberal.
How do you think the same "poll" would play out if taken by The Daily Wire?
Ive been on this earth for almost 50 years, and no one has yet to ask me my opinion on any poll.
Do you truly think that the people who read WSJ - the business journal - are liberals? I'd understand that argument if you were talking about CNN twitter poll, or something along those lines. But this is a poll that isn't on the readers, its done scientifically to attempt to minimize the margin of error. They're calling people from all around the country -- probably around 500 or so from different parties and different ideologies, different income levels, walks of life, etc (or at least they try for this) So your argument is invalid. This isn't a bias on the readers or anything like that. If you would've started saying that you think polling is flawed for x,y, z reason (Ex: People who respond to polls are biased because they respond, issues with data gathering, issues of questions) then I would've said that your argument is fine. But the one you've presented isn't legitimate. The Wallstreet Journal may not be liberal, but it is most certainly establishment. Trump has made himself an enemy of the establishment, not just liberals. The establishment will most certainly cross party lines if it serves their bottom line. |
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New poll just came out from WSJ/NBC stating that there is a majority of Americans who support an impeachment inquiry starting into Trump. Though there is no majority present for removing the President from office. This is a very unique position to be in. Lets go back in history to look at Nixon.By the time that the house had started an impeachment inquiry into Nixon, he had already had horrible approval ratings and about 40 percent of Americans supported removing him from office. Nixon didn't even have the support of his own party. Look at Clinton. Clinton had great approval ratings, 68 percent of Americans supported him at this point and only 28 percent of Americans supported removing him from office at the start of his inquiry. Clinton had about 40-50 percent of Republicans approving of him. Trump is somewhere between these two in terms of impeachment. And an extreme on his approval rating. His approval rating his between these two -- but Trump has most of his support from Republicans (80-90 percent support of Republicans) and 30-40 percent support from Independents and pretty much no support among Democrats. Looking at history may not even help us here, as we're truly in an area we've never seen before. https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-in-a-unique-position-amid-impeachment-11570626125?mod=hp_lead_pos6I think it is important to point out that people, regardless of their support for the president, just want this process to move forward via legal due process. There is wide spread fatigue with this whole push to overturn the results of the 2016 election at all costs via media hype and political dirty tricks. Supporters of the president also understand if they begin official proceedings, that will give the president authority under the law to bring damning information against the Democrats, and force them to prove accusations of which they have never had any factual basis for. |
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Isn't it great how the news works. I hadn't seen one story regarding a Biden probe, but I've probably seen like 100 stories relating to how the majority of Americans are supporting an impeachment inquiry.
Great to see the American people see that this whole scandal cuts both ways and that the actions of Biden weren't on the up and up.
This is another thing that is changing rapidly. People are starting to see just exactly how controlled the media is and are disregarding it, or even actively having direct contrarian opinions as to what is reported. This is to a large degree what is driving the push to turn platforms like Youtube into cable television. The media sees it is losing market share, and they think they can take it back again by subverting places like Youtube and forcing people to watch their content again when no one wants it. All they are doing is pissing people off because they can't access their preferred media platforms, exacerbating the situation. |
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This is more of what I meant. The Chinese government is the problem, they've forced the Chinese people to work under horrible conditions, be paid nothing, giving companies pretty much all of the power in China, and have stripped them of basically every human right.
Illegals in the US have more rights then regular everyday people in China. That's truly saying something.
Hopefully the protests in HK spark anger all across China -- though I don't think it's going to happen.
I personally understand what you meant, but I think it is important to be explicit, especially since a significant language barrier is involved. The people of China need to understand this is not an attack upon their nation if they are to feel enabled to resist the CCP. This is the CCP's primary strategy to rile up nationalism and cast foreigners as wanting to attack the nation itself rather than its criminal leadership. I don't think most of the mainland Chinese will be as much pissed over what is happening in Hong Kong, as they will see it as an example that resistance is possible. However when China's economy inevitably falters, they will in fact be pissed and be motivated to resist, and that is when the lessons learned in Hong Kong will become more important. China is a great nation with lots of gifted people, but its culture has long been festering under the rule of the CCP. China needs to bury the CCP and grow out of its corpse into the beautiful and strong tree it was always destined to be. |
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As it should be.
China is a horrible country. One that has been able to bully the rest of the world into giving them what they want because they have a large amount of trade presence in the world. For decades we've ignored the atrocities committed by the Chinese onto their own people, and to others (think of the uighur's)
No other nation on this earth would be given the leeway that China is given -- the only reason they've been allowed to do this for so long is because no President in any country wants to be the one that causes some short term loss to the economy to allow for long term propserity.
Let China SUFFER.
China is a very fervently nationalist people. I think it is important to make the distinction between the peoples of China, the Nation of China, and the CCP which is largely responsible for most of the abhorrent crimes coming out of the nation. The CCP is not so much popular in China among the people as it is feared. It is essentially a mafia, and that makes them dangerous to oppose in public, creating lots of lip service and public support where it may not actually exist in the minds of the people. I don't think the people of China deserve to suffer, they have already suffered greatly under the CCP, but the CCP needs to be destroyed if China is going to enter the modern era with the support of the rest of the world. |
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Well, if she actually runs, she might be afforded temporary reprieve from her crimes. As it is, all it takes is one witness to come forward without being assassinated to bring her down.  She (as well as Biden) know that as long as they are running, they can just claim political interference if they are prosecuted. Pretty much the goal here. I don't think Bidens crime rise to the point where the public is going to want him prosecuted for it -- mostly because of the fact that the media is going to deflect for him and he's going to get away with it. But he's able to let it get out of the public eye for a LONG TIME. Pretty much enough time for the prosecutors to be able to avoid it. Only because people have no clue what is going on. That is going to change. Polls already show majority support for investigating Biden. He was able to escape prosecution in the past because of the complicity of the same entities which would prosecute him, that is no longer the case. https://www.investors.com/politics/americans-back-trump-impeachment-ukraine-scandal-biden-probe/ |
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For the fun of it, let's play this one a few moves out: - About 300 fires are started from people using their generators. - Generators are outlawed for safety and 'carbon footprint' reasons. - The most downloaded app is the one that helps people narc on their neighbors for doing bad things (like running a generator.) - <stuff, stuff stuff> - Everyone pays higher prices for energy. I considered buying some property in the Santa Cruz mountains one time. It had burnt a few years prior. Cause of the fire? Someone's solar panel. One thing I've learned in researching this 'eco' stuff: The eco crowd loves fire and the 'change agents' who make things happen use it regularly to achieve the kind of 'revolutionary change' that they've been indoctrinated into believing in. The funny thing is that the people who are actually planning what get's burnt next are basically real-estate developers who have insider information about how various 'city plans' are going to come together a decade down the road. I forgot exactly where I saw it, but there were some maps that showed the most recent round of fires and overlayed them with some massive real estate planning planned before the fact and they lined up perfectly. Quite a coincidence. EDIT:  |
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Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems? I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems. Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.
One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote. If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.
As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again. The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet. It doesn't matter what they do, the dems are painted into a corner. There is no winning move for them. If they impeach, Republicans can bring their own evidence via subpoenas devastating the dems. If they don't impeach, they piss off their base. If they continue with this impeachment theater they piss everyone off. Wow. So I guess it's all over then. Thanks for letting me know. Are there any other major historical events coming up that you already know the outcome to? Would definitely appreciate the heads up. No problem. Sure, A lot of current and former high ranking US government officials will be prosecuted for serious corruption and possibly treason. Also the US will make an agreement with North Korea shortly. Enjoy the show. |
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Can we agree that completing the hearing before Christmas would be a substantial political win for the Dems? I'm not saying impeachment will be successful or even a win for the dems. Just that having Trump impeached and waiting trial the longer the better for them.
One way they could slow the whole process down is by convincing Pelosi to call for a house vote. If that were to happen, they would have a bunch of chances to slow the vote down.
As soon as the house investigation is over, I expect them to switch again. The GOP will want the trial to happen ASAP and the dems will be dragging their feet. It doesn't matter what they do, the dems are painted into a corner. There is no winning move for them. If they impeach, Republicans can bring their own evidence via subpoenas devastating the dems. If they don't impeach, they piss off their base. If they continue with this impeachment theater they piss everyone off. |
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