Hello @Bitwala

I know you can't give us a date but do you think the company will have the banking license and operate with it during the year 2018?
I know that before this you have a lot to do, to work on the Lightning Node, API's, Altcoins and surely much more but well me too I am dreaming to see  Bitwala with a banking license lol,

Why that? Since Kraken doesn't accept deposits coming from Revolut (source link posted above by @gentleman)
As a security matter, Kraken is also blocking any deposit coming from some traditional banks (and all banks have KYC procedures) so nope, frauds are not limited or wiped out

People thinking Bitcoin is an anonymous cryptocurrency is simply a total misconception as you know (or at least you should).
There are some Bitcoin users looking to get real privacy and this is where such websites are useful. Privacy is a right, not a privilege
I a not going to talk about the advantages to use such websites, (privacy, tainted coins, etc...) this is not the purpose of this topic.
 
I am trying to make an updated list of Bitcoin mixers/tumblers websites.
it will be useful to other users/readers, especially when there are some scams to avoid(cloned sites, etc...))

Disclaimer:
Although the list is updated as frequently as possible, (as soon as a change is needed), it's important for people to do their own research to make up their own opinion. Follow the announcement topics (links are posted when there is one), see what's going on, check the recent feedback from others, etc...

It can be very easy to be fooled. There are a lot of scams, much more than legitimate tumblers, (unfortunately).
Some don't bother to create a website with a different TLD (.net instead of .com) and replicate the design of a well-known mixer in order to mislead people.
Others go further using the IDN homograph attack.
To make it simple they use very similar characters. For example, using "l" lowercase L, and "I" uppercase "i". Or "ẹ" instead of "e".

examples below:

Don't forget to visit Scams Bitcoin Mixers List and Services closed to avoid loosing money

You may be interested to read @mocacinno on Mixers using cloudflare's SSL certificates

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⭐Name: CryptoMixer
🔹Launched on: May 2016
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees:  0.5% + 0.0005 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.001
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Mixtum
🔹Launched on: August 2018
🔹Fees: 4% - 5% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Minimum amount: 0.005 BTC
🔹Maximum amount: 50 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Coinomize
🔹Launched on: May 2020
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: Here
🔹Fees: 1% - 5% (+ 0.0003 Network fee)
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Anonymixer
🔹Launched on: August 2020
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees: from 1 to 2% (+ Network fee is dynamic depending on the mempool)
🔹Minimum amount: 0.001 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: No

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⭐Name: Mixtura
🔹Launched on: July 2021
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: n/a
🔹Fees: up to 5% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Mixer
🔹Launched on: December 2021
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: n/a
🔹Fees: 4-5% + 0,0007 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0,003 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes  

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⭐Name: Bitmixer
🔹Launched on: July 2022
🔹Fees: from 1 to 5% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Maximum amount: 50 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Mixero
🔹Launched on: November 2022
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees: from 0.7% to 4.7% + 0.0003 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.002 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Webmixer
🔹Launched on: April 2023
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees: from 1 to 5% + network fees (0,00035 or 0007 BTC)
🔹Minimum amount: 0,001 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: MedusaMixer
🔹Launched on: April 2023
🔹Fees: from 4 to 5% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Maximum amount: 50 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Mixy
🔹Launched on: June 2023
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Fees: 3-5% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Whir
🔹Launched on:
🔹Fees: 1% fixed fee
🔹Minimum amount: 0,001 BTC
🔹Maximum amount: 10 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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⭐Name: Thormixer
🔹Launched on: July 2023
🔹Fees: 4% + 0.0007 BTC
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: here
🔹Minimum amount: 0.003 BTC
🔹Maximum amount: 50 BTC
🔹Cloudflare/Ddos-guard.net: Yes

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What is Coinjoin?
More about it: CoinJoin

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⭐Name: Wasabi Wallet
🔹Clearnet link: https://wasabiwallet.io
🔹Tor link: wasabiukrxmkdgve5kynjztuovbg43uxcbcxn6y2okcrsg7gb6jdmbad.onion
🔹Bitcointalk thread link:
🔹Fees: 0.003%  multiplied by the anonymity set (number of participants of the CoinJoin)
🔹Minimum amount: 0.1BTC

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⭐Name: Samourai
🔹Clearnet link: https://samouraiwallet.com/whirlpool
🔹Tor link: 72typmu5edrjmcdkzuzmv2i4zqru7rjlrcxwtod4nu6qtfsqegngzead.onion/
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: n/a
🔹Fees: flat fee for an unlimited anonymity set.
🔹Minimum amount: .01BTC

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⭐Name: JoinMarket
🔹Clearnet link: download at https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver
🔹Tor link:
🔹Bitcointalk thread link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=919116.0
🔹Fees: Varies. Typically, around 0.0001% per participant per round, or about 0.005%
🔹Minimum amount: Varies

I created the list myself and didn't copy anyone. It's just that some blogs copy-pasted this topic and make it their own.

We should give it 3 months at least to see how it goes. After we will see better the advantages and disadvantages

It may not work in all countries but:

- In some countries, donations are not taxed. So donate the money to your brother (0% tax)
  then your brother donate to your sister (0% tax) and finally, your sister donate to you (0% tax) 

- Buy gold with cryptos, once you receive the gold bars, sell them

- Use decentralized exchanges

- Move to a country without taxes on capital gains for 6 months

- Pay the taxes in your country, because it is somewhat for your own benefits too.

Nah I bet the problem is something else
Using your main bank account to receive frequently and/or large amounts, the bank suspect you to run a business.

Their problem isn't really that you have a business but the fact that you're using your main account with it, which is forbidden by any decent bank. You are supposed to have a business account.

Now, what do they call huge amount received to think it's a business may be different from bank to bank. But in my country, once you received 5000€ within 30 days the system give you a red flag and all info are forwarded to a govt. institution that will check carefully your banking history to look for any illegal activity done.

These "neo banks" are not much different from the traditional banks as we know it. They still need to abide by the laws for criminal activities, money laundering, etc.

We are really fucked with the banksin Europe

Are you using Bittrex's API to do it? Because Cryptopia has public and private API as well.
So it should be possible to do it like how you're doing with Bittrex.

There is this framework on GitHub to connect to different websites CryptoFyer 0.5 (never tested so no idea) Perhaps it can help you directly or indirectly with the code and giving you a hint.

How often are the stats supposed to be updated on your site?
Because the homepage looks like fresh from yesterday or today but while checking using the member UID I see the last update us n 21 or 22

Over 34 threads about the new system, in less than 24 hours (0.o)

The newbies didn't have sMerit before, so what?. Can't you help people for free without looking to get something back? So then if a day you have a question or need something we will be able to ask you what we get to help you?
It doesn't hurt to help, you never know if a day you will need help as well, it is what we call a community!

The minimum to credit should be 0.00000001 merit. At least with respect to Bitcoin.  

Not easy? How it's difficult? The Bitcoin prepaid cards are not the only solution, and there are better solutions than a card.
You are surely not a European citizen otherwise you would not say such thing.

@abioganga can easily join Kraken, sell his coins and request a SEPA transfer. If he requests the SEPA before 11.00 am his bank account will be credited the same day before 07.00 pm. Can't really make it faster and easier. I take Kraken as an example but it's the same with the majority having SEPA.

Only a DT would be able to tag a spammer, right? Otherwise, everybody will tag everybody and I smell the "he tagged me with his alt accounts to get a slot in the campaign XYZ!!!"

Most of the recent complaints are not really about the red trust itself, but because they can't now participate in any signature campaigns.
Giving a "spammer" tag is not going to help. People running the campaigns will just add naturally the rule "No red trust + No orange trust"
Then what? People will continue to complain because they now have a spammer tag which gives the same result of the red trust for their activity here.

Blazed wants to "be fair to everyone", it's of course ok. Do you think it's fair for us to read tons of garbages, reading 15 pages of topics to see there are only 5 good posts in? Why the forum should be fair to people who contaminate the forum. Ok for the members with broken English it's maybe rude to give them a red trust, (maybe a warning and asking to improve their English can be enough) But oh man, all the posts that give nothing more than frustration to the reader, re-using arguments that have been posted 20 times in the same topics, the people who open a thread with the sole purpose to give the opportunity to others (and their alt accounts) to post generic replies

What about closing the topics of the managers who don't care about the posts quality of their participants, to give them a warning/red trust/whatever

Hi Medar

Can you change my zen address to
znjDkuFNM6qTV4JceWw75FFNkYX8Fy5pEoa

thanks

Ah I see, I had already forgotten about this bug. Well after a F5 refresh It worked as it should be.
Thanks anyway

@minernoob1978
Yep, there is/are still minor(s) bug(s) but It's a lot better compared to the past weeks. I am grateful to have the zero trading fees until the end of the month.
We can save a lot of money, especially while trading a 5 figures number  

N26 stopped to accept transaction related to cryptos activities not long ago. I think it's since they partnered with Transferwise (which don't deal with cryptos activities)
As for Revolut and Mistertango I am surprised for so-called crypto friendly services, I am puzzled
As for Leupay and Paysera, it's only a matter of time before they decide to block your account as well.

Are you using only LocalBitcoin for all the SEPA transfers in and out?

@OP

The period of anarchists and cyberpunks, rolling for the crypto-anarchism, is gone for a long time now. During the last 12 months (at least) the majority of people who jumped on the cryptos trend was for the sole purpose to speculate on it, this is even more evident when looking at the ICO.

Many people are saying it will fall to $5,000 this year and many others are saying Bitcoin will hit the $60,000 in 2018.
What most people forgot is we still don't know the full effect of the futures contracts.

Look at Bitcoin 1 year ago the value was $1,000 now 12 months later $12,000. Not long ago it was at $20,000. Think about this: if $8,000 is just a correction for Bitcoin, imagine the price it could be soon... The $60,000 is really possible.

I don't know the reason but It looks like they switched from huobi.com to huobi.pro ??

Because I found this on Twitter, See:

https://twitter.com/huobicom/
https://twitter.com/huobicom/status/926016140907819009
https://twitter.com/Huobi_Pro

Have you tried on the .pro website to see if your login details work there?
 

Otherwise, try to contact someone in their Telegram channel
https://t.me/huobiproofficial

I knew it would happen soon or later.
It was only a matter of time before Mastercard decides to join the club. I wouldn't be surprised if Visa and Mastercard talked about it with each other, or if an entity pushed them to take such a decision.
So far I think we can say, the game is over for cryptos and prepaid card.